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Whether the replay overturns this or not - it was the right call by the refeeres to wait and let the play go on.The replay will then let them make the right call.

 
Coming out of my shell to get a clarification: I thought the elbow would always be considered down, but the forearm? Honestly have never heard that. Anyone have a link for me?

 
Coming out of my shell to get a clarification: I thought the elbow would always be considered down, but the forearm? Honestly have never heard that. Anyone have a link for me?
Don't have the link but ANY body part OTHER than hand or foot and he's down.
 
Coming out of my shell to get a clarification: I thought the elbow would always be considered down, but the forearm? Honestly have never heard that. Anyone have a link for me?
Don't have the link but ANY body part OTHER than hand or foot and he's down.
Okay, thank you.
 
One of my pet peeves. You don't ef with the National Anthem. You belt it out, period. You don't add fancy notes, add vibrato, "poetic license", etc.

The best rendition I've ever heard was in the early 80's, on MNF. One of our military planes crashed off New Foundland, killing dozens if not hundreds (I forget the details) of our soldiers. MNF followed a couple of days later, and they had the crowd sing it to honor the dead. Awesome, simply awesome.

Singing it any other way = Roseanne's version. The final word "brave" has only one syllable, it's not "bray-ay-ay-ay-uhve".
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It's a shame the Steelers are going to win this game on that blown call.
And, Keys goes back into his shell, for this very reason. I can't stand these threads, especially as it gets later in the postseason when my team's on.
 
It's a shame the Steelers are going to win this game on that blown call.
And, Keys goes back into his shell, for this very reason. I can't stand these threads, especially as it gets later in the postseason when my team's on.
aw come on...have some fun.Blown call, Steelers get points. In all likelihood they win this game by 3, and there they were. Nothing to lose sleep over.

 
Do you think Tagliabue had the apology letter to the Denver Broncos already typed up, or is he sitting at his PC right now opening up a new Word document?I do not fault Steeler fans for being grateful one of those finally went their way.

 
It's a shame the Steelers are going to win this game on that blown call.
And, Keys goes back into his shell, for this very reason. I can't stand these threads, especially as it gets later in the postseason when my team's on.
aw come on...have some fun.Blown call, Steelers get points. In all likelihood they win this game by 3, and there they were. Nothing to lose sleep over.
I tend to believe Jeff about the hand/feet rule.And, the ball WAS in Parker's control when his forearm hit the ground. No question about that.

So, he was down.

I'm trying to have fun, but I don't want my own team's fans ruining that with whining and complaining about referees, especially when the call was probably correct.

 
Do you think Tagliabue had the apology letter to the Denver Broncos already typed up, or is he sitting at his PC right now opening up a new Word document?

I do not fault Steeler fans for being grateful one of those finally went their way.
Still funny!
 
By the way, the actual rule:down by contact: Describes when a player with possession of the ball is made to touch the ground (other than hands or feet) by a defensive player; for example, if the ball-carrier slips and falls, he can get up and continue, but if he was pushed by a defensive player, he is said to be down by contact and the play is dead. This term is only applicable to professional football; in college and high-school football, the play ends when the player with possession goes down for any reason.So, the forearm was down, with control, so Parker was down.Quit whining.

 
By the way, the actual rule:

down by contact: Describes when a player with possession of the ball is made to touch the ground (other than hands or feet) by a defensive player; for example, if the ball-carrier slips and falls, he can get up and continue, but if he was pushed by a defensive player, he is said to be down by contact and the play is dead. This term is only applicable to professional football; in college and high-school football, the play ends when the player with possession goes down for any reason.

So, the forearm was down, with control, so Parker was down.

Quit whining.
Yes but the ground can cause a fumble which is what happened here.
 
By the way, the actual rule:

down by contact: Describes when a player with possession of the ball is made to touch the ground (other than hands or feet) by a defensive player; for example, if the ball-carrier slips and falls, he can get up and continue, but if he was pushed by a defensive player, he is said to be down by contact and the play is dead. This term is only applicable to professional football; in college and high-school football, the play ends when the player with possession goes down for any reason.

So, the forearm was down, with control, so Parker was down.

Quit whining.
Yes but the ground can cause a fumble which is what happened here.
Oh good God. You're missing the point entirely.HIS FOREARM WAS DOWN WITH COMPLETE CONTROL OF THE BALL.

Therefore, that's down, because a body part other than hands or feet touched the ground.

Edit: His forearm was down, then the ball came out. It's the same as if his knee hit the ground, then the ball came out.

That should be a fair enough explanation. The forearm is the same as the knee in the rules.

 
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By the way, the actual rule:

down by contact: Describes when a player with possession of the ball is made to touch the ground (other than hands or feet) by a defensive player; for example, if the ball-carrier slips and falls, he can get up and continue, but if he was pushed by a defensive player, he is said to be down by contact and the play is dead. This term is only applicable to professional football; in college and high-school football, the play ends when the player with possession goes down for any reason.

So, the forearm was down, with control, so Parker was down.

Quit whining.
Yes but the ground can cause a fumble which is what happened here.
The ground can cause a fumble if the player just falls down on his own. There would be no down by contact. In this case, the ground caused a fumble after he was down by NFL rule. The ground can cause a fumble as long as you are not down by rule. FWP was down by rule.

 

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