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Denying Employment Due To Smoking (1 Viewer)

JohnnyU said:
Borden said:
The whole problem is that no employer should be able to deny someone the employment because of a legal choice a person makes. Smoking is beyond stupid but it sets up a cascade of discrimination. The following are all choices that can either be viewed as a health or carry a bad image.

Smoking

Riding a motorcycle

Driving

Video games

Hunting

Owning guns

Playing Sports - I'm sure everyone either has or knows some who has injuries from playing

Lifting Weights - same with as sports

Abortion

Religion - religious holidays are very unproductive

Food - gluten, sugar, factory farms, GMO, meat, carbs, whatever the newest diet fad says

Tanning beds

Fireworks

Sunshine

Porn

Alcohol

All of these could be either health or character risks. And if this if hospital is allowed to go through with this then what's next?

The bottom line is that if some is legal to do and isn't being done at the workplace then nobody should be able to hold the right to deny anybody anything because of it. This is not freedom.
:lmao: Freedom is a two-way street, bub. If I don't want to employ you I don't have to.
Yeah, you and your condescending laugh are right. People should have to give up their personal freedoms in order to get the job. Seems only fair. An employer can choose to hire whoever they want but they shouldn't be allowed to force people into being tested for a legal substance that doesn't impair their work or workmanship then deny them the job because of it.
It does impair their work because many find the need to go smoke about every Half hour to forty five minutes and it's proven smokers break more than non-smokers. Also they are not as healthy as non-smokers and call off sick more often. So yes, smoking does impact work performance.
like here

or here

or here

 
JohnnyU said:
Borden said:
The whole problem is that no employer should be able to deny someone the employment because of a legal choice a person makes. Smoking is beyond stupid but it sets up a cascade of discrimination. The following are all choices that can either be viewed as a health or carry a bad image.

Smoking

Riding a motorcycle

Driving

Video games

Hunting

Owning guns

Playing Sports - I'm sure everyone either has or knows some who has injuries from playing

Lifting Weights - same with as sports

Abortion

Religion - religious holidays are very unproductive

Food - gluten, sugar, factory farms, GMO, meat, carbs, whatever the newest diet fad says

Tanning beds

Fireworks

Sunshine

Porn

Alcohol

All of these could be either health or character risks. And if this if hospital is allowed to go through with this then what's next?

The bottom line is that if some is legal to do and isn't being done at the workplace then nobody should be able to hold the right to deny anybody anything because of it. This is not freedom.
:lmao: Freedom is a two-way street, bub. If I don't want to employ you I don't have to.
Yeah, you and your condescending laugh are right. People should have to give up their personal freedoms in order to get the job. Seems only fair. An employer can choose to hire whoever they want but they shouldn't be allowed to force people into being tested for a legal substance that doesn't impair their work or workmanship then deny them the job because of it.
It does impair their work because many find the need to go smoke about every Half hour to forty five minutes and it's proven smokers break more than non-smokers. Also they are not as healthy as non-smokers and call off sick more often. So yes, smoking does impact work performance.
like here

""However, the results also suggest that much of the higher number of days of sick leave among smokers may be explained by factors other than reduced smoking-related health," he added."

or here

Do the math with the numbers in this article.

or here

"Because it was based on a one-time survey, the study couldn’t show that obesity, smoking, or other health factors directly affected sick time or productivity. But the link seems plausible, given the range of health problems associated with both obesity and smoking."
I did some googling to see if there was counter points. I don't think many of these articles hold a ton of merit but it's interesting/funny just to see some of these articles.

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2003/aug/07/shopping.health

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2383197/Smokers-earn-20-non-smokers--quickly-recoup-money-quit.html

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2011/01/25/smoke-breaks/

http://www.iea.org.uk/blog/smoking-breaks-and-lost-productivity

http://www.fastcompany.com/3026621/leadership-now/the-one-habit-we-should-all-take-from-smokers

 

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