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DETROIT TIGERS OFFICIAL: We are decent!!!! (2 Viewers)
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Leroy Hoard
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They keep winning series and staying out of losing streaks. 6 games up in the division and headed to Chicago for 4.
And Parker Meadows might be back as soon as tomorrow.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Another series win vs a high quality ball club in the Cubs. Flaherty was really snapping the ball in and Kahnle/Vest finished the job.
Also was great seeing a playoff atmosphere in June...it's been years.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Good to get those out of way. The rest of the schedule could play out well if they continue to avoid rainouts. Fewer double headers to tax this sometimes fragile pitching staff.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
After a lot of good news a series loss. I have to give Cincinnati credit for getting it done. De La Cruz is the real deal, definitely the best player in the series. Tigers made unforced errors, something they usually don't.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
But to end my rant on a positive note, Riley Greene is freaking awesome. 
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Tigers get a series win but the bigger story is their reclamation project that started the game. Almost 4 years between major league starts,
Dietrich Enns looked very impressive throwing 5 innings of one hit ball.
Dietrich Enns looked very impressive throwing 5 innings of one hit ball.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Good win for Mize, probably their #2 pitcher right now. Wouldn't mind some help with added arms, both starting and bullpen.
I know the hitting can be inconsistent but I like the current lineups they can put out there. For those looking right handed hitting, they can have an all RH infield of Dingler, Tork, Torres, Baez, Vierling with Perez and Jones as options for the outfield/DH spots in the lineup. Greene, Carpenter, Zach, Keith, Meadows as the left handers.
Hoping the ace comes up with another gem tomorrow night.
I know the hitting can be inconsistent but I like the current lineups they can put out there. For those looking right handed hitting, they can have an all RH infield of Dingler, Tork, Torres, Baez, Vierling with Perez and Jones as options for the outfield/DH spots in the lineup. Greene, Carpenter, Zach, Keith, Meadows as the left handers.
Hoping the ace comes up with another gem tomorrow night.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Ask and ye shall receive. Skubal pitching lights out these days. This time one walk vs 13 strikeouts. And Greene is really raking it on offense.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
As a Cubs homer, I am tremendously happy for Javy Baez and his selection as an All-Star starter.
He was a beloved member of the 2016 team. I was sad to see him traded away but that trade brought back Pete Crow-Armstrong. I know he has had struggles, but it is great to see him battle back and prosper for the Tigers.
Congrats El Mago.
He was a beloved member of the 2016 team. I was sad to see him traded away but that trade brought back Pete Crow-Armstrong. I know he has had struggles, but it is great to see him battle back and prosper for the Tigers.
Congrats El Mago.
Baez starting in the All-Star game is one of the most unbelievable stories in my life as a sports fan.
The bubble burst today. Enns got hammered.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Well it was a nice story while it lasted.
Cleveland up next, always a tough matchup for Tigers it seems. Olson-Mize-Skubal on the mound for this series.
Moonlight
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Welcome back Olson needed him today. Don’t want the Indians getting ideas. Tigers are going to look at some pitching help before the trade deadline.
Leroy Hoard
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While he would probably only serve as a regular season stopgap, the weekend radio host was touting this guy currently pitching in AAA. Could be an alternative to the somewhat inconsistent bullpen days Hinch has been employing as the fifth starter. Throws something called a "knuckle drop" pitch.
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Matt Seelinger Stats, Age, Position, Height, Weight, Fantasy & News
Matt Seelinger Stats, Age, Position, Height, Weight, Fantasy & News
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Tigers finish off a road sweep vs Cleveland, nicely done. Skubal at his usual near perfection plus a late inning offense that eventually showed up, after an entire series of struggles vs the Cleveland pitching staff.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
They look like a team that lost focus the last week before the break and were planning their vacation a little too early. They also look like a team that could use an infusion of talent to bolster what they have, especially in the bullpen.
But having said that, they really did have a great first half, lots of players many of us had given up on stepping up big. A double digit lead in the division and the best record in baseball. I don't recall anyone predicting that. Now it's up to the players and management to keep it up when in counts down the stretch.
But having said that, they really did have a great first half, lots of players many of us had given up on stepping up big. A double digit lead in the division and the best record in baseball. I don't recall anyone predicting that. Now it's up to the players and management to keep it up when in counts down the stretch.
They definitely need a couple of late inning bullpen arms. Kahnle has been getting hammered lately so there is a lot of concern there. Vest can't do it by himself.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Every time I watch Kahnle pitch his stuff look so mediocre at best. Would never trust him late in a big game. Throw a change 75% of the time and when it hangs it is like batting practice.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Yeah baseball is a grind. I hope they make some upgrades at the deadline.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
It's getting painful to watch them right now. This is a team that definitely needs its deck reshuffled.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
AJ reshuffles the deck every day. Not sure if we’ve even had the same lineup once all season
Right now there's a few cards missing from the deck.
AJ reshuffles the deck every day. Not sure if we’ve even had the same lineup once all season
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Yes they seem to have a shortage of cards for AJ to work from. Let's get him a couple new ones.Right now there's a few cards missing from the deck.
AJ reshuffles the deck every day. Not sure if we’ve even had the same lineup once all season
Da Guru
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Tigers were bidding against themselves for Alex Cobb. Matt Boyd was very interested in returning to Detroit. I get Tigers were looking for starting pitching but why Cobb? The numbers did not add up. No other team wanted Cobb, he would have signed for vet minimum. Even that would been a gift and too much at this stage of his career.
Alex Cobb has never made 30 starts in a season during his 13-year career and is now 37 years old coming off major injuries in 2024, so giving him a huge number felt like a risk.
Cobb even told the media upon his arrival that before Scott Harris called, he was probably going to retire.
As it turned out, Cobb has not been able to even throw a single inning, dealing with a hip/back injury since spring training which seems to have him out for a mysterious amount of time.
Injury updates have continuously said that Cobb is trying bullpen sessions, but is not close to returning as of yet.
Alex Cobb has never made 30 starts in a season during his 13-year career and is now 37 years old coming off major injuries in 2024, so giving him a huge number felt like a risk.
Cobb even told the media upon his arrival that before Scott Harris called, he was probably going to retire.
As it turned out, Cobb has not been able to even throw a single inning, dealing with a hip/back injury since spring training which seems to have him out for a mysterious amount of time.
Injury updates have continuously said that Cobb is trying bullpen sessions, but is not close to returning as of yet.
Detroit Tigers grade for Chris Paddack trade: Nobody better to replace Reese Olson?
The Tigers beat writer like this underwhelming at best trade as much as I did. Terrible.
The Tigers beat writer like this underwhelming at best trade as much as I did. Terrible.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
After a truly horrible stretch, Tigers have bounced back pretty well. 2 solid SP performances bookending a quick Mize appearance. I also at first wasn't overwhelmed by the first trade so far, but nice work by the new guy who only cost the #14 prospect in the system. Hopefully more to come by 6pm Thursday.
Dan Lambskin
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msudaisy26
Footballguy
Did Scott Harris really say they didn't want to make a trade that might haunt us?
I am not saying be stupid, but if that is his mindset then I highly doubt they ever win the world series unless they perfectly thread the needle or all the stars perfectly align.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
And there are countless examples of going all in that don't work out either. There is no perfect or guaranteed way of winning anything. And the stars still have to align either way.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I just said don't do anything stupid. There is a big line between all in and what the Tigers are doing and being cheap has shown to give you less of a chance.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Personally I would have pushed the envelope a little more. But I don't pretend to know the details of proposed trades or just how good some of these guys are. That's the GMs job and so far he seems to be doing ok in terms of current record and continued contention. But if they don't win the WS this year (something every team is less than a lock to do) it's not like a different path would automatically get them there.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
There is no auto path with anything, but for most of this season they have been the best team in the league. They should act like it, especially when it sounds like a lot of the guys they had interest in when for less than expected.
I love the show breaking bad and one of my favorite parts of that show is when Walter and Mike are talking about when Mike was a cop and he took a half measure and how poorly it turned it. It seems like all our local teams are taking half measures and I hate it.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
They both ended up dead because they went full measure.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Not before they made a **** ton of money.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
They had already done that.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
And actually the half measure did get Mike killed. He tried to thread the needle when Lydia put the hit on him and Walt was in debt and had to borrow 40k from Jesse. Big difference from buying a car wash for 800k and 81 million.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Mike and Waltuh could have gotten out earlier. They just didn't because that's not how criminal types think.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
John Smoltz for Doyle Alexander is a pretty good example.
As a Cubs homer I can relate: Dylan Cease for Jose Quintana and Josh Donaldson for Rich Harden. Both trades were made because the Cubs needed one solid starter down the stretch, and mortgaged the future as a result.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
That is a horrible example. Doyle was really good for the Tigers and was a big reason why they got to the post season. Plus Smoltz went to the Braves and they were making pitchers. Smoltz probably doesn't become what he does without going there.
How did Andrew Miller and Cameron Maybin for Cabrera workout? How about all those pitchers the Tigers got from the Blue Jays for Price or the prospects for Verlander?
No team gets them all correct, but history has shown that the bold teams have a better chance.
Plus what would have happened if they kept Smoltz instead of trading him. They miss the playoffs in 87 and they are 4th place team all of the 90s and early 00s instead of a last place team. Great!
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
But hey they "tried". I guess some are awarding gold stars for trying but failing.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
The great Lou Whitaker in the tv booth, glad to see the reclusive Tigers legend. Still has the highest WAR (tied with Johnny Bench at #51) of any position player not yet in the HOF. Hopefully those people eventually figure it out.
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Career Leaders & Records for WAR Position Players | Baseball-Reference.com
Career WAR/pos Leaders:1.Barry Bonds/162.8/12606, 2.Babe Ruth+/162.2/10628, 3.Willie Mays+/156.2/12545, 4.Ty Cobb+/151.4/13103, 5.Henry Aaron+/143.2/13941, 6.Tris Speaker+/135.0/12021, 7.Honus Wagner+/131.1/11766, 8.Stan Musial+/128.6/12721, 9.Rogers Hornsby+/127.3/9481, 10.Edd
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Da Guru
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The more I read and hear about Alex Cobb the more puzzling and frustration this signing is.
Cobb was coming off an injury ridden season that he was paid 9 million, the 2 below average seasons he had before that Cobb made 9 and 10 million. At 37 with no other team interested Cobb was thinking it is time to retire when Scott Harris called and offered the 37 year old Cobb 15 million, 5 million more than he ever made in his prime. Cobb would have signed for the vet minimum at that point. Cobb had to say to his wife "This is unreal"
Right now looks like the Tigers just gave Cobb a 15 million dollar retirement gift with zero ROI. A winning lottery ticket for Cobb.
At the same time UFA Matt Boyd was very interested in a return to Detroit..and if the Tigers were going to roll the dice on an old pitcher Max Sherzer was still out there and ended up signing a 1year deal with the Jays for the same amount as Cobb.
Cobb was coming off an injury ridden season that he was paid 9 million, the 2 below average seasons he had before that Cobb made 9 and 10 million. At 37 with no other team interested Cobb was thinking it is time to retire when Scott Harris called and offered the 37 year old Cobb 15 million, 5 million more than he ever made in his prime. Cobb would have signed for the vet minimum at that point. Cobb had to say to his wife "This is unreal"
Right now looks like the Tigers just gave Cobb a 15 million dollar retirement gift with zero ROI. A winning lottery ticket for Cobb.
At the same time UFA Matt Boyd was very interested in a return to Detroit..and if the Tigers were going to roll the dice on an old pitcher Max Sherzer was still out there and ended up signing a 1year deal with the Jays for the same amount as Cobb.
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