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***Detroit Tigers thread: 1st pick yet again, this is not fun*** (2 Viewers)

Greene is consistantly ahead in the count, rarely gets into jams, and keeps his pitch count low. Just pitching awesome right now.

 
Nick has bump up his average to a very respectable .286, and 5 of his 12 hits have been for extra bases. If he is the weak link in the lineup, the Tigers are in good shape.

 
JD could have dove and made that catch, but Greene's scoreless streak is over. Let the bullpen do their job now.

 
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Krol is pitching much better this year. At least will be a big improvement than having Coke for the main leftie bullpen arm.

 
With 4 double plays turned yesterday I of course had to wonder where they are standing in relation to the all time record.

Games Played: 12

Wins: 10 Wins Projected Over 162 Games: 135 MLB Record: 1906 Cubs/2001 Mariners with 116

Total Hits: 128 Hits Projected Over 162 Games: 1,728 MLB Record: 1930 Phillies with 1,783

Total Errors: 3 Errors Projected Over 162 Games: 41 MLB Record Fewest (162 Game Season): 2013 Orioles with 54

Total Stolen Bases: 13 Stolen Bases Projected Over 162 Games: 176 MLB Record: 1911 NY Giants with 347

Stolen Bases Allowed: 3 Stolen Bases Allowed Projected Over 162 Games: 41 MLB Record: 1959 LA Dodgers with 24

Double Plays Turned: 12 Double Plays Turned Projected Over 162 Games: 162 MLB Record: 1949 Philly Athletics with 217

 
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2Young2BBald said:
With 4 double plays turned yesterday I of course had to wonder where they are standing in relation to the all time record.

Games Played: 12

Wins: 10 Wins Projected Over 162 Games: 135 MLB Record: 1906 Cubs/2001 Mariners with 116

Total Hits: 128 Hits Projected Over 162 Games: 1,728 MLB Record: 1930 Phillies with 1,783

Total Errors: 3 Errors Projected Over 162 Games: 41 MLB Record Fewest (162 Game Season): 2013 Orioles with 54

Total Stolen Bases: 13 Stolen Bases Projected Over 162 Games: 176 MLB Record: 1911 NY Giants with 347

Stolen Bases Allowed: 3 Stolen Bases Allowed Projected Over 162 Games: 41 MLB Record: 1959 LA Dodgers with 24

Double Plays Turned: 12 Double Plays Turned Projected Over 162 Games: 162 MLB Record: 1949 Philly Athletics with 217
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Can we see some magic number tracking in here as well?

 
igbomb said:
2Young2BBald said:
With 4 double plays turned yesterday I of course had to wonder where they are standing in relation to the all time record.

Games Played: 12

Wins: 10 Wins Projected Over 162 Games: 135 MLB Record: 1906 Cubs/2001 Mariners with 116

Total Hits: 128 Hits Projected Over 162 Games: 1,728 MLB Record: 1930 Phillies with 1,783

Total Errors: 3 Errors Projected Over 162 Games: 41 MLB Record Fewest (162 Game Season): 2013 Orioles with 54

Total Stolen Bases: 13 Stolen Bases Projected Over 162 Games: 176 MLB Record: 1911 NY Giants with 347

Stolen Bases Allowed: 3 Stolen Bases Allowed Projected Over 162 Games: 41 MLB Record: 1959 LA Dodgers with 24

Double Plays Turned: 12 Double Plays Turned Projected Over 162 Games: 162 MLB Record: 1949 Philly Athletics with 217
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Can we see some magic number tracking in here as well?
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves here :) This is the :nerd: stuff that makes talking baseball with my daughter (math and stats major) fun. Around the first of each month or so, I plan updating this with where they would stand all time if they hit their projected number. My guess is that they will break one of these records (hoping for the least errors) and will go top 5 all time in a couple of others. I was 16 in 1984 and made it to around 20 games that year as my Dad had an in with Ritchie Hebner. During the summer, I'd get a call about 45 minutes before game time to "get your ### downtown, nobody is using Ritchie's tickets today". I'd rush downtown to the box office and the tickets would shoot up via one of those old school bank tubes. I would study the box scores and stats in the Detroit News, especially the pitching stats. I hope my kids can live some form of similar excitement this year.

 
This team is shaping up to be the best team since the 1984 team. I like how the pieces are falling into place. I am even warming up to the bullpen. I think it is better than average which is a huge leap from what it has been the last couple of years.

 
jon_mx said:
2Young2BBald said:
My guess is that they will break one of these records (hoping for the least errors) and will go top 5 all time in a couple of others.
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I would have given JD an error yesterday. His misplay of the ball is what allowed the 'earned' run against Greene.
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I agree, I even did some quick math in my head at the time (its a sickness) on the impact of adding a 4th error, putting them even with the Orioles record of 54. If he had dove and stopped the ball, I would have thought that would have been a base hit, but the outright whiff should have been an error.

 
2Young2BBald said:
igbomb said:
2Young2BBald said:
With 4 double plays turned yesterday I of course had to wonder where they are standing in relation to the all time record.



Games Played: 12



Wins: 10 Wins Projected Over 162 Games: 135 MLB Record: 1906 Cubs/2001 Mariners with 116



Total Hits: 128 Hits Projected Over 162 Games: 1,728 MLB Record: 1930 Phillies with 1,783



Total Errors: 3 Errors Projected Over 162 Games: 41 MLB Record Fewest (162 Game Season): 2013 Orioles with 54



Total Stolen Bases: 13 Stolen Bases Projected Over 162 Games: 176 MLB Record: 1911 NY Giants with 347



Stolen Bases Allowed: 3 Stolen Bases Allowed Projected Over 162 Games: 41 MLB Record: 1959 LA Dodgers with 24



Double Plays Turned: 12 Double Plays Turned Projected Over 162 Games: 162 MLB Record: 1949 Philly Athletics with 217
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Can we see some magic number tracking in here as well?
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves here :) This is the :nerd: stuff that makes talking baseball with my daughter (math and stats major) fun. Around the first of each month or so, I plan updating this with where they would stand all time if they hit their projected number. My guess is that they will break one of these records (hoping for the least errors) and will go top 5 all time in a couple of others. I was 16 in 1984 and made it to around 20 games that year as my Dad had an in with Ritchie Hebner. During the summer, I'd get a call about 45 minutes before game time to "get your ### downtown, nobody is using Ritchie's tickets today". I'd rush downtown to the box office and the tickets would shoot up via one of those old school bank tubes. I would study the box scores and stats in the Detroit News, especially the pitching stats. I hope my kids can live some form of similar excitement this year.
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This reminds me of the summer we went RV around the mid-Atlantic for several weeks one summer. I had the Free Press from the day we left with all the Tigers batting/pitching stats, which I had copied a green 14-column accounting worksheet (those sheets you folded over to keep a general ledger.) Then I would get the local paper each morning for the previous nights box score and update the stats.

Total :nerd:

 
The ump's strike zone is not going to do the pitchers any favors tonight. Looks like he is going to force the pitchers to keep the ball up.

 
Great win!!! Simon had another great game. Joba with the key pitch of the game. And Soria closed out facing the heart of the order.

 
I have never seen a shortstop go deep in the hole and be able to throw the ball that quickly. There are a handful of SS who could have gotten an out on that play, but no one who would have thrown an exceptionally fast runner out by a step and a half.

 
jon_mx said:
I have never seen a shortstop go deep in the hole and be able to throw the ball that quickly. There are a handful of SS who could have gotten an out on that play, but no one who would have thrown an exceptionally fast runner out by a step and a half.
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I think you are probably leaving out Andrelton Simmons, but besides him, I think Iglesias is the best defensive SS.

 
whoknew said:
jon_mx said:
I have never seen a shortstop go deep in the hole and be able to throw the ball that quickly. There are a handful of SS who could have gotten an out on that play, but no one who would have thrown an exceptionally fast runner out by a step and a half.
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I think you are probably leaving out Andrelton Simmons, but besides him, I think Iglesias is the best defensive SS.
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I am not saying who the best is, and I have not seen Simmons all that much, I have just never seen a SS make a throw that quickly. Most others do some kind of jump spin or try to plant their foot and fire a rocket, both of which take a lot more time to execute. Iglesias had that ball out of his glove and directed towards first in less than a step.

 
Dan called it like a kid watching his heroes play the game. It was a joy to listen to. This kid is so good. Too bad he is all glove and no bat....

Peace

 
teamramrod said:
Dan called it like a kid watching his heroes play the game. It was a joy to listen to. This kid is so good. Too bad he is all glove and no bat....

Peace
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League average bat in 2013 and hitting the cover off it this year. A little hasty to call him no bat.

 
Obviously Iggy is not going to hit .450 for the year, but can he maintain a .300 plus average? He has quick hands. He is disciplined at the plate. I am not sure his hitting is a fluke. I think he can hit .300 for the season.

 
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Obviously Iggy is not going to hit .450 for the year, but can he maintain a .300 plus average? He has quick hands. He is disciplined at the plate. I am not sure his hitting is a fluke. I think he can hit .300 for the season.
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I'm not sold on his plate discipline yet, but everything else is there for him to hit .300+.

 
It seems the purpose of detroit getting runners on today is to set up the double play. It seems like one every inning so far.

 
whoknew said:
jon_mx said:
I have never seen a shortstop go deep in the hole and be able to throw the ball that quickly. There are a handful of SS who could have gotten an out on that play, but no one who would have thrown an exceptionally fast runner out by a step and a half.
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I think you are probably leaving out Andrelton Simmons, but besides him, I think Iglesias is the best defensive SS.
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Simmons might be the best defensive SS I've ever seen, no shtick.

Also I don't think Iglesias is a .300 hitter, but he doesn't need to be either. If he finishes with a .300 OBP, I'd be ecstatic.

 
Not a good showing by the bullpen. Al Al, Krol, and Gorzelanny were all terrible. But scoring two runs against a sub-par pitcher is not a good showing and it is where the blame for this loss has to go. The offense lately has been struggling, only getting saved by some outstanding pitching and defense.

 
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Not a good showing by the bullpen. Al Al, Krol, and Gorzelanny were all terrible. But scoring two runs against a sub-par pitcher is not a good showing and it is where the blame for this loss has to go. The offense lately has been struggling, only getting saved by some outstanding pitching and defense.
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Ausmus sure didn't help things in the 7th inning, bringing Krol in to face a righty at that point in the game was moronic.

 
Lobstein gave them a better start than the game he won, hard to believe at this stage JV would have done any better. No need to rush him back, hopefully Lobstein can repeat that a couple more times before going back to Toledo.

 
Doctor Detroit said:
whoknew said:
jon_mx said:
I have never seen a shortstop go deep in the hole and be able to throw the ball that quickly. There are a handful of SS who could have gotten an out on that play, but no one who would have thrown an exceptionally fast runner out by a step and a half.
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I think you are probably leaving out Andrelton Simmons, but besides him, I think Iglesias is the best defensive SS.
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Simmons might be the best defensive SS I've ever seen, no shtick.

Also I don't think Iglesias is a .300 hitter, but he doesn't need to be either. If he finishes with a .300 OBP, I'd be ecstatic.
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I just got back from a little run in Boston, and I was talking baseball with a local guy for a while after the race. He was a huge Iglesias fan, saying that if Iggy would even hit .250-.275 or so, that would be enough to justify the move Detroit made. This guy was really high on what Detroit has done here to assemble a great team.

 
Nathan hurt again. I imagine the guy was probably hurt last year too. Glad they are finding out about this now rather than letting him implode 10 times and taking his word he's ok. Not sure why we have such an affinity for avoiding DL stints, its cost us in the long run the last 2 years at least.

 
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