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***Detroit Tigers thread: 1st pick yet again, this is not fun*** (5 Viewers)

Anthony Borbely said:
Pitchers Jeff Ferrell and Drew VerHagen called up. No corresponding moves announced. They need to make room on the 40 man roster (39 right now). Gorzellany is terrible and I think he has to go...but for some reason I bet him and Joba will both stay.

Edit to add that they dont need to make a move regarding 40 man roster.
Just heard on local radio that the Tigers DFA'd Joba Chamberlain. :thumbup: Now we need to DFA Gorzellany.
One minute later, Gorzellany joins Joba.

Finally get rid of some dead weight. Took way too long though.

 
Tigers making more changed...this time the lineup.

1. Kinsler

2. Cespedes

3. Cabrera

4. V. Martinez

5. J.D. Martinez

6. Avila

7. Castellanos

8. Gose

9. Iglesias

Although I might do it different, I'm just glad they are trying something to shake things up.

 
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Joba and Gorzelanny were both $1 million contracts, no issue at all with shedding those contracts if the players are unproductive. The problem here is two fold: first the Tigers haven't developed in house relievers like almost everyone else does (some of this is because we trade all the arms like Knebel away), and secondly you have to sign four or five of these guys not just two. I know they signed Hanrahan too but I think they had to know that seeing him pitch this year was a bit of a long shot (although I guess the Royals guessed the same thing with Madsen). So some poor development, some poor decisions at the management level, and some bad luck.

I cringe when they are thinking of trading anything of value for relievers, really these guys are a dime a dozen and usually if you throw enough at the wall something is bound to stick. Bullpens are highly unpredictable from year to year and an elite bullpen one year, is a bottomfeeder the next. I get that, but this team is consistently horrible.

 
Anthony Borbely said:
Neftali Feliz designated for assignment.

Make that happen, 8th inning guy off the scrap heap.
Totally agree...absolutely mothing to lose.Also, I have a bad feelin that Cabrera tore something. I'm not thinking its just a strain. I hope I'm wrong.
Cabrera to DL with a calf strain. Unless there are more tests, my initial thought was wrong (thankfully). Jefry Marte called up. I know he played 3rd and recently short but does anyone know if he has ever played 1st. Seems that he would be an odd call up if he wasnt going to get some time at 1st.
 
Neftali Feliz designated for assignment.

Make that happen, 8th inning guy off the scrap heap.
Totally agree...absolutely mothing to lose.

Also, I have a bad feelin that Cabrera tore something. I'm not thinking its just a strain. I hope I'm wrong.
I agree...before I heard the calf strain I thought he tore his Achilles the way he pulled up.
Trying to be glass half full, the all star break buys a few extra days for recovery. Has Vmart taken any reps at first base? I'd hate to put him at risk of another injury to the knee, but he plays a great 1st base and Avila could DH with McCann behind the plate. Romine has been hitting well, but I can see two weeks of him at 1st base.

 
I don't think Victor playing in the field is a good idea. What about Avila at 1b vs righties and he only gives McCann an occasional day off behind the plate? Barrage of lefties coming up starting Tuesday though.

 
Just heard on local radio that Cabrera is out 6 weeks.

As far as I'm concerned and given the above, there is no choice but to sell. Even with Miggy it would have been tough to fill holes on the pitching staff but there is no way to do that and get a decent replacement for Miggy.

 
Just heard on local radio that Cabrera is out 6 weeks.

As far as I'm concerned and given the above, there is no choice but to sell. Even with Miggy it would have been tough to fill holes on the pitching staff but there is no way to do that and get a decent replacement for Miggy.
Yeah, its the big red banner on ESPN now too. Dammit. I had thought of Avila too as mentioned above. Didn't they have Moya give 1B a try in Spring Training?

ETA, looks like they already called up Jefry Marte. Does he become Nick's late game defensive replacement, meaning Brad is going to roll with Romine at 1st? :confused:

 
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A grade 3 strain is a complete tear of the calf muscle. Most grade 3s tears take 3-4 months to fully heal so if Miggy is back in 6 weeks he is a fast healer.

 
JD is the new Miggy. (I hope.). I think 6 weeks is optimistic. I agree that he's likely to be affected for the rest of the year. Damn. Well, 1-0 without Miggy, though that's with Price pitching.

 
The 5 Worst Detroit Tigers Relievers Of The Last 5 Years5. Ian Krol, 2014-Present55 games, 5.79 ERA, 1.74 WHIP

Ian Krol was a part of the 2013 offseason deal that sent starter Doug Fister to the Washington Nationals — a deal that drew much ire from Tigers fans. Robbie Ray was supposed to be the cornerstone piece the Tigers got in return, but he was traded for Shane Greene over the most recent offseason.

Krol was a lefty pitcher that the Tigers desperately needed. However, he hasn’t panned out the way that the team hoped for. He has had two separate stints in the Majors in 2015, including a June that saw him post a sky-high 14.73 ERA in just four appearances.

4. Brayan Villarreal, 2011-1373 games, 4.56 ERA, 1.52 WHIP

Not many people remember Brayan Villareal, but he put together a pretty nice season in 2012 — pitching 54.2 innings and recording a 2.63 ERA. It was 2011 and 2013, however, that earns him a spot on this list.

Rather, 2013 in particular.

In 2013, Villarreal pitched 4.1 innings in just eight games with the Tigers, relinquishing 10 earned runs (20.77 ERA) and nine walks. He was very quickly sent to Toledo before later being traded to Boston in the deal that brought Jose Iglesias to Detroit.

3. Joba Chamberlain, 2014-201599 games, 3.71 ERA, 1.39 WHIP

So long, Joba Chamberlain. That’s what many Tigers fans are saying this weekend after the teamdesignated him for assignment on Friday. Just two days earlier, Chamberlain gave up three solo home runs to the Pittsburgh Pirates in 2/3 of an inning.

Chamberlain was thought to be a low risk-high reward player when he can to Detroit last year, signing for minimal money, while not expected to fill a large role. However, Chamberlain pitched just well enough out of the horrible Tigers bullpen to earn the eighth inning job from manager Brad Ausmus, where he blew four saves and tallied five loses last season.

2. Joe Nathan, 2014-Present63 games, 4.78 ERA, 1.53 WHIP

Joe Nathan was brought in to be the savior of the Tigers bullpen in the winter of 2013. He was the best closer on the free agent market and [SIZE=inherit]president[/SIZE] Dave Dombrowski threw money at him to get him to Detroit.

Good in theory, not in practice.

Nathan blew two of his first three saves with the Tigers in 2014 and just never really gained any traction. The former All-Star gave up a [SIZE=inherit]run[/SIZE] in 20 of his 62 appearances in 2014. He recorded a save in his only appearance of 2015 before undergoing season-ending Tommy John surgery.

1. Phil Coke, 2010-14299 games, 4.25 ERA, 1.52 WHIP

It’s shocking how long Phil Coke stayed in a Tigers uniform with just how mediocre he pitched. Coke came over from the New York Yankees in the trade that shipped Curtis Granderson out of town. Leaned on heavily as the only “reliable” left-hander out of the bullpen for years, Coke was often put into situations he could not handle.

He had one redeeming moment with the Tigers, in 2012 when he stepped in for embattled closer Jose Valverde and helped the Tigers reached the World Series. He didn’t give up a run in two series against the Yankees and the Oakland [SIZE=inherit]Athletics[/SIZE].

However, the Tigers decided to finally move on from Phil Coke in 2015. So far this season, Coke has pitched for the Chicago Cubs, Toronto Blue Jays and is currently in the Atheltics’ minor league system.

NOTE: Jose Valverde is not on this list because he set the Detroit Tigers record for most saves in a single season when he went a perfect 49-for-49 in 2011.
Kind of a hard job to narrow it down to just 5, but not a bad list. Still, I would put Nathan as the runaway #1 spot. $20 million dollars and the fact he was a closer elevates the pain he inflicted. I can accept his rationale for not including Valverde, although when he was bad, he definitely was top 5 worthy.

 
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Tigers making more changed...this time the lineup.

1. Kinsler

2. Cespedes

3. Cabrera

4. V. Martinez

5. J.D. Martinez

6. Avila

7. Castellanos

8. Gose

9. Iglesias

Although I might do it different, I'm just glad they are trying something to shake things up.
This was pretty much the lineup I wanted coming out of spring training (at least the first 5). The other lineup started out well but did need to be shaken up some.

 
Wake me up when September comes.
Summer has come and passedThe innocent can never last

Wake me up when September ends


Like my fathers come to passSeven years has gone so fast

Wake me up when September ends


Here comes the rain againFalling from the stars

Drenched in my pain again

Becoming who we are


As my memory restsBut never forgets what I lost

Wake me up when September ends


Summer has come and passedThe innocent can never last

Wake me up when September ends


Ring out the bells againLike we did when spring began

Wake me up when September ends


 

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