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Deuce dynasty value (1 Viewer)

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Where do you guys have Deuce in your dynasty rankings now?

Two knees gone, will turn 30 in the 2008 season. Is this a buy "super low" or sell "as high as it gets"?

Who would you think is comparable value?

 
I may offer Dunn and a 2nd. Low to mid 2nd. Dunn will be done in 07 and a 2nd,well they get cut 85% of the time in our small roster league

 
I dropped Dwayne Wright and picked up McAllister for free off the wire. Figured his upside was greater, despite the 2 injuries...

 
I dropped Dwayne Wright and picked up McAllister for free off the wire. Figured his upside was greater, despite the 2 injuries...
huh? Deuce has another ACL and will be 30 next year? These things take time to recover from... Deuce isn't worth anything. Period. There is nothing to debate... this is a young man's league and I would much rather invest the roster spot in a player with long term upside. Sorry, just being factual.
 
I dropped Dwayne Wright and picked up McAllister for free off the wire. Figured his upside was greater, despite the 2 injuries...
huh? Deuce has another ACL and will be 30 next year? These things take time to recover from... Deuce isn't worth anything. Period. There is nothing to debate... this is a young man's league and I would much rather invest the roster spot in a player with long term upside. Sorry, just being factual.
:lmao: Those aren't opinions, they are facts?

 
I dropped Dwayne Wright and picked up McAllister for free off the wire. Figured his upside was greater, despite the 2 injuries...
huh? Deuce has another ACL and will be 30 next year? These things take time to recover from... Deuce isn't worth anything. Period. There is nothing to debate... this is a young man's league and I would much rather invest the roster spot in a player with long term upside. Sorry, just being factual.
Well it took him 9 months last time. He got hurt week 4 and had a solid year last season..Remember? That was less than a season from his first one. I know he will be 2 years older BUT its not out of the question like you make it sound. In a dynasty he has value..He COULD be a solid #2 next season...It COULD happen
 
I dropped Dwayne Wright and picked up McAllister for free off the wire. Figured his upside was greater, despite the 2 injuries...
huh? Deuce has another ACL and will be 30 next year? These things take time to recover from... Deuce isn't worth anything. Period. There is nothing to debate... this is a young man's league and I would much rather invest the roster spot in a player with long term upside. Sorry, just being factual.
I'll debate it. :lmao: Deuce, unlike most of these young guys, has shown a history of success in this league and has also shown the ability and work ethic to recover from a seemingly catastrophic ACL injury.

His skill as a runner, receiver and pass blocker is a commodity that many NFL team would love to have. Those that lack an established RB would love to take a shot at him next year and I can see him running in GB or in Houston next year or perhaps in a committee with someone else.

I would be happy, in a dynasty league, to take my chances with him on the end of my bench or on my IR list over most of the "young-never-will-bes" on the waiver wire right now

Actually, it does look like there is something to debate here.

Oh and by the way, if this is only "a young man's league" would you give me Edge James for Selvin Young or perhaps Alex Smith for Brett Farve?

 
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I dropped Dwayne Wright and picked up McAllister for free off the wire. Figured his upside was greater, despite the 2 injuries...
huh? Deuce has another ACL and will be 30 next year? These things take time to recover from... Deuce isn't worth anything. Period. There is nothing to debate... this is a young man's league and I would much rather invest the roster spot in a player with long term upside. Sorry, just being factual.
I'll debate it. :confused: Deuce, unlike most of these young guys, has shown a history of success in this league and has also shown the ability and work ethic to recover from a seemingly catastrophic ACL injury.

His skill as a runner, receiver and pass blocker is a commodity that many NFL team would love to have. Those that lack an established RB would love to take a shot at him next year and I can see him running in GB or in Houston next year or perhaps in a committee with someone else.

I would be happy, in a dynasty league, to take my chances with him on the end of my bench or on my IR list over most of the "young-never-will-bes" on the waiver wire right now

Actually, it does look like there is something to debate here.

Oh and by the way, if this is only "a young man's league" would you give me Edge James for Selvin Young or perhaps Alex Smith for Brett Farve?
If Edge of Favre came up with a season ending and possibly career ending injury then maybe your perspective would be different.No, there is nothing to debate.

If you think it's wise to hold an aging RB on your roster while he recovers from another ACL... that is your problem. But, I won't debate it.

Its opportunity cost. C'mon guys be creative... you can't find anything better to do with that roster spot?

 
I dropped Dwayne Wright and picked up McAllister for free off the wire. Figured his upside was greater, despite the 2 injuries...
huh? Deuce has another ACL and will be 30 next year? These things take time to recover from... Deuce isn't worth anything. Period. There is nothing to debate... this is a young man's league and I would much rather invest the roster spot in a player with long term upside. Sorry, just being factual.
I'll debate it. :confused: Deuce, unlike most of these young guys, has shown a history of success in this league and has also shown the ability and work ethic to recover from a seemingly catastrophic ACL injury.

His skill as a runner, receiver and pass blocker is a commodity that many NFL team would love to have. Those that lack an established RB would love to take a shot at him next year and I can see him running in GB or in Houston next year or perhaps in a committee with someone else.

I would be happy, in a dynasty league, to take my chances with him on the end of my bench or on my IR list over most of the "young-never-will-bes" on the waiver wire right now

Actually, it does look like there is something to debate here.

Oh and by the way, if this is only "a young man's league" would you give me Edge James for Selvin Young or perhaps Alex Smith for Brett Farve?
If Edge of Favre came up with a season ending and possibly career ending injury then maybe your perspective would be different.No, there is nothing to debate.

Are you tlaking alone? No, so there's a debate going on here.

If you think it's wise to hold an aging RB on your roster while he recovers from another ACL... that is your problem. But, I won't debate it.

Its opportunity cost. C'mon guys be creative... you can't find anything better to do with that roster spot?
Unless you're talking alone here you're having a debate.
 
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I dropped Dwayne Wright and picked up McAllister for free off the wire. Figured his upside was greater, despite the 2 injuries...
huh? Deuce has another ACL and will be 30 next year? These things take time to recover from... Deuce isn't worth anything. Period. There is nothing to debate... this is a young man's league and I would much rather invest the roster spot in a player with long term upside. Sorry, just being factual.
:confused: Those aren't opinions, they are facts?
Yes, those are facts. Deuce will be 30. Deuce tore his ACL (again). ACL's can take some time to recover from.Not sure what you're laughing about... Oh, that's right... you're the guy with Barry Sanders still stashed away in a dynasty.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

 
I dropped Dwayne Wright and picked up McAllister for free off the wire. Figured his upside was greater, despite the 2 injuries...
huh? Deuce has another ACL and will be 30 next year? These things take time to recover from... Deuce isn't worth anything. Period. There is nothing to debate... this is a young man's league and I would much rather invest the roster spot in a player with long term upside. Sorry, just being factual.
I'll debate it. :confused: Deuce, unlike most of these young guys, has shown a history of success in this league and has also shown the ability and work ethic to recover from a seemingly catastrophic ACL injury.

His skill as a runner, receiver and pass blocker is a commodity that many NFL team would love to have. Those that lack an established RB would love to take a shot at him next year and I can see him running in GB or in Houston next year or perhaps in a committee with someone else.

I would be happy, in a dynasty league, to take my chances with him on the end of my bench or on my IR list over most of the "young-never-will-bes" on the waiver wire right now

Actually, it does look like there is something to debate here.

Oh and by the way, if this is only "a young man's league" would you give me Edge James for Selvin Young or perhaps Alex Smith for Brett Farve?
If Edge of Favre came up with a season ending and possibly career ending injury then maybe your perspective would be different.No, there is nothing to debate.

Are you tlaking alone? No, so there's a debate going on here.

If you think it's wise to hold an aging RB on your roster while he recovers from another ACL... that is your problem. But, I won't debate it.

Its opportunity cost. C'mon guys be creative... you can't find anything better to do with that roster spot?
Unless you're talking alone here you're having a debate.
Well... you're quoting me at the same time you're modifying my quote... so I guess you're debating with yourself masterfully. I believe that's master-bating.
 
I dropped Dwayne Wright and picked up McAllister for free off the wire. Figured his upside was greater, despite the 2 injuries...
huh? Deuce has another ACL and will be 30 next year? These things take time to recover from... Deuce isn't worth anything. Period. There is nothing to debate... this is a young man's league and I would much rather invest the roster spot in a player with long term upside. Sorry, just being factual.
:confused: Those aren't opinions, they are facts?
Yes, those are facts. Deuce will be 30. Deuce tore his ACL (again). ACL's can take some time to recover from.Not sure what you're laughing about... Oh, that's right... you're the guy with Barry Sanders still stashed away in a dynasty.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Oh no, you out :lmao: me.
Deuce isn't worth anything. Period
There is nothing to debate.
this is a young man's league
These are not facts, sorry. An IN before you make a point with more :lmao: than me.

 
I dropped Dwayne Wright and picked up McAllister for free off the wire. Figured his upside was greater, despite the 2 injuries...
huh? Deuce has another ACL and will be 30 next year? These things take time to recover from... Deuce isn't worth anything. Period. There is nothing to debate... this is a young man's league and I would much rather invest the roster spot in a player with long term upside. Sorry, just being factual.
I'll debate it. :lmao: Deuce, unlike most of these young guys, has shown a history of success in this league and has also shown the ability and work ethic to recover from a seemingly catastrophic ACL injury.

His skill as a runner, receiver and pass blocker is a commodity that many NFL team would love to have. Those that lack an established RB would love to take a shot at him next year and I can see him running in GB or in Houston next year or perhaps in a committee with someone else.

I would be happy, in a dynasty league, to take my chances with him on the end of my bench or on my IR list over most of the "young-never-will-bes" on the waiver wire right now

Actually, it does look like there is something to debate here.

Oh and by the way, if this is only "a young man's league" would you give me Edge James for Selvin Young or perhaps Alex Smith for Brett Farve?
If Edge of Favre came up with a season ending and possibly career ending injury then maybe your perspective would be different.No, there is nothing to debate.

If you think it's wise to hold an aging RB on your roster while he recovers from another ACL... that is your problem. But, I won't debate it.

Its opportunity cost. C'mon guys be creative... you can't find anything better to do with that roster spot?
Perhaps you don't understand what "debate" means, for we are currently having a discussion presenting opposing viewpoints therefore, you are currently having a debate. :confused: To digress back to the point of debate, I will take a shot a running back with Duece McAlllister over the likes of Selvin Young, Michael Robinson, Chris Henry or Kenton Kieth any day of the week.

 
I dropped Dwayne Wright and picked up McAllister for free off the wire. Figured his upside was greater, despite the 2 injuries...
huh? Deuce has another ACL and will be 30 next year? These things take time to recover from... Deuce isn't worth anything. Period. There is nothing to debate... this is a young man's league and I would much rather invest the roster spot in a player with long term upside. Sorry, just being factual.
:confused: Those aren't opinions, they are facts?
Yes, those are facts. Deuce will be 30. Deuce tore his ACL (again). ACL's can take some time to recover from.Not sure what you're laughing about... Oh, that's right... you're the guy with Barry Sanders still stashed away in a dynasty.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Oh no, you out :lmao: me.
Deuce isn't worth anything. Period
There is nothing to debate.
this is a young man's league
These are not facts, sorry. An IN before you make a point with more :lmao: than me.
Be my guest. Hold Deuce on your roster for 1+ years while he recovers (and gets another year older). Kiss anything positive you could do with that roster spot goodbye. Have a nice night.Do you get the point? The cost of holding Deuce is the roster spot? The NFL is loaded with young talent. Do something with it!

 
I dropped Dwayne Wright and picked up McAllister for free off the wire. Figured his upside was greater, despite the 2 injuries...
huh? Deuce has another ACL and will be 30 next year? These things take time to recover from... Deuce isn't worth anything. Period. There is nothing to debate... this is a young man's league and I would much rather invest the roster spot in a player with long term upside. Sorry, just being factual.
:lmao: Those aren't opinions, they are facts?
Yes, those are facts. Deuce will be 30. Deuce tore his ACL (again). ACL's can take some time to recover from.Not sure what you're laughing about... Oh, that's right... you're the guy with Barry Sanders still stashed away in a dynasty.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Oh no, you out :lmao: me.
Deuce isn't worth anything. Period
There is nothing to debate.
this is a young man's league
These are not facts, sorry. An IN before you make a point with more :lmao: than me.
Be my guest. Hold Deuce on your roster for 1+ years while he recovers (and gets another year older). Kiss anything positive you could do with that roster spot goodbye. Have a nice night.Do you get the point? The cost of holding Deuce is the roster spot? The NFL is loaded with young talent. Do something with it!
He's on my IR not taking the place of one other person. :shrug:
 
I dropped Dwayne Wright and picked up McAllister for free off the wire. Figured his upside was greater, despite the 2 injuries...
huh? Deuce has another ACL and will be 30 next year? These things take time to recover from... Deuce isn't worth anything. Period. There is nothing to debate... this is a young man's league and I would much rather invest the roster spot in a player with long term upside. Sorry, just being factual.
I'll debate it. :lmao: Deuce, unlike most of these young guys, has shown a history of success in this league and has also shown the ability and work ethic to recover from a seemingly catastrophic ACL injury.

His skill as a runner, receiver and pass blocker is a commodity that many NFL team would love to have. Those that lack an established RB would love to take a shot at him next year and I can see him running in GB or in Houston next year or perhaps in a committee with someone else.

I would be happy, in a dynasty league, to take my chances with him on the end of my bench or on my IR list over most of the "young-never-will-bes" on the waiver wire right now

Actually, it does look like there is something to debate here.

Oh and by the way, if this is only "a young man's league" would you give me Edge James for Selvin Young or perhaps Alex Smith for Brett Farve?
If Edge of Favre came up with a season ending and possibly career ending injury then maybe your perspective would be different.No, there is nothing to debate.

If you think it's wise to hold an aging RB on your roster while he recovers from another ACL... that is your problem. But, I won't debate it.

Its opportunity cost. C'mon guys be creative... you can't find anything better to do with that roster spot?
Perhaps you don't understand what "debate" means, for we are currently having a discussion presenting opposing viewpoints therefore, you are currently having a debate. :shrug: To digress back to the point of debate, I will take a shot a running back with Duece McAlllister over the likes of Selvin Young, Michael Robinson, Chris Henry or Kenton Kieth any day of the week.
I could care less who you don't like. Who do you like?I think all those guys outscore Deuce this season. Just my humble opinion.

 
I dropped Dwayne Wright and picked up McAllister for free off the wire. Figured his upside was greater, despite the 2 injuries...
huh? Deuce has another ACL and will be 30 next year? These things take time to recover from... Deuce isn't worth anything. Period. There is nothing to debate... this is a young man's league and I would much rather invest the roster spot in a player with long term upside. Sorry, just being factual.
I'll debate it. :lmao: Deuce, unlike most of these young guys, has shown a history of success in this league and has also shown the ability and work ethic to recover from a seemingly catastrophic ACL injury.

His skill as a runner, receiver and pass blocker is a commodity that many NFL team would love to have. Those that lack an established RB would love to take a shot at him next year and I can see him running in GB or in Houston next year or perhaps in a committee with someone else.

I would be happy, in a dynasty league, to take my chances with him on the end of my bench or on my IR list over most of the "young-never-will-bes" on the waiver wire right now

Actually, it does look like there is something to debate here.

Oh and by the way, if this is only "a young man's league" would you give me Edge James for Selvin Young or perhaps Alex Smith for Brett Farve?
If Edge of Favre came up with a season ending and possibly career ending injury then maybe your perspective would be different.No, there is nothing to debate.

If you think it's wise to hold an aging RB on your roster while he recovers from another ACL... that is your problem. But, I won't debate it.

Its opportunity cost. C'mon guys be creative... you can't find anything better to do with that roster spot?
Perhaps you don't understand what "debate" means, for we are currently having a discussion presenting opposing viewpoints therefore, you are currently having a debate. :shrug: To digress back to the point of debate, I will take a shot a running back with Duece McAlllister over the likes of Selvin Young, Michael Robinson, Chris Henry or Kenton Kieth any day of the week.
I could care less who you don't like. Who do you like?I think all those guys outscore Deuce this season. Just my humble opinion.
I hate to be so confrontational and so blunt but you don't seem to favor discussion or opposing points of view, so if you don't care what others think, why the Hell are you posting on an internet message board instead of looking yourself in the mirror telling yourself how smart you are?Furthermore, it is not germane to the discussion who scores more points this year, the topic here, in accordance with the OP, is dynasty rankings, and answering the original question, I think McAllister's dynasty rankings are still on the radar.

 
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I dropped Dwayne Wright and picked up McAllister for free off the wire. Figured his upside was greater, despite the 2 injuries...
huh? Deuce has another ACL and will be 30 next year? These things take time to recover from... Deuce isn't worth anything. Period. There is nothing to debate... this is a young man's league and I would much rather invest the roster spot in a player with long term upside. Sorry, just being factual.
I'll debate it. :lmao: Deuce, unlike most of these young guys, has shown a history of success in this league and has also shown the ability and work ethic to recover from a seemingly catastrophic ACL injury.

His skill as a runner, receiver and pass blocker is a commodity that many NFL team would love to have. Those that lack an established RB would love to take a shot at him next year and I can see him running in GB or in Houston next year or perhaps in a committee with someone else.

I would be happy, in a dynasty league, to take my chances with him on the end of my bench or on my IR list over most of the "young-never-will-bes" on the waiver wire right now

Actually, it does look like there is something to debate here.

Oh and by the way, if this is only "a young man's league" would you give me Edge James for Selvin Young or perhaps Alex Smith for Brett Farve?
If Edge of Favre came up with a season ending and possibly career ending injury then maybe your perspective would be different.No, there is nothing to debate.

If you think it's wise to hold an aging RB on your roster while he recovers from another ACL... that is your problem. But, I won't debate it.

Its opportunity cost. C'mon guys be creative... you can't find anything better to do with that roster spot?
Perhaps you don't understand what "debate" means, for we are currently having a discussion presenting opposing viewpoints therefore, you are currently having a debate. :shrug: To digress back to the point of debate, I will take a shot a running back with Duece McAlllister over the likes of Selvin Young, Michael Robinson, Chris Henry or Kenton Kieth any day of the week.
I could care less who you don't like. Who do you like?I think all those guys outscore Deuce this season. Just my humble opinion.
I hate to be so confrontational and so blunt but you don't seem to favor discussion or opposing points of view, so if you don't care what others think, why the Hell are you posting on an internet message board instead of looking yourself in the mirror telling yourself how smart you are?Furthermore, it is not germane to the discussion who scores more points this year, the topic here, in accordance with the OP, is dynasty rankings, and answering the original question, I think McAllister's dynasty rankings are still on the radar.
Sorry Norwood. Wide Right!You're missing the point entirely (blunt enough?), It is certainly relevant who scores more points THIS year, because (unless your team suxor) everyone is still trying to win NOW. Also, there are many up an coming players in the NFL. I could care less (as should you) who you dislike. They're not the point. Find someone you like.

If you think Deuce will resurrect his career in his 30s after 2 ACLs then great. But I won't be "that guy" who carries him on his bench for the next year or so while other opportunities go by the board.

And I understand the dynasty concept, but I've watched guys hold the likes of Jamal Anderson for far too long. It hurts when a good player gets injured. Move on. It's something I learned a long time ago.

So, answer the question if you like. What is Deuce's value? Would you trade anything for him? Will you stick him on your bench because you can't find a better waiver option? You're hoping he establishes himself with the Raidrers in '09??

 
what a waste this thread turned out to be.
Unfortunately, although we can just talk around the problem. Frankly, if you can grab him and put him on IR, there's no cost, so he's worth that.He's a guy with a track record of success, which has some value. For some of the names out there: I'd take Young or Keith ahead of Deuce, probably MRobinson as well - I like him. Young & Keith are the backups in great offenses.Deuce is probably at best a commitee back from here out. So you're looking at whether that has value.
 
Honestly, to me, he looked done in preseason. I think he would've had a bad year no matter what.

His stats were Ok, as someone pointed out in a thread several weeks ago, but he didn't pass the eye test.

I don't see a lot of value from here on out. I'd really be surprised if he was ready to go for the start of next season given that he will basically be rehabbing two knees at the same time.

 
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I'm sorry.... but I think its over for him.... The question is; what do the Saints do... his contract is quite large and i highly doubt anyone would give anything for him. Duece's only real option is to take a major pay cut. What would be the cap hit if the Saint cut him next year?

 
He was dropped in Fantasy Legends II and I had the chance to pick him up before "The Man who met Andy Griffith" did, and I chose not to. I just don't want to waste a roster spot on him now, even in a league with 24 roster spots. Maybe that wasn't wise, but I also think he is :toast:.

 
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Well... you're quoting me at the same time you're modifying my quote... so I guess you're debating with yourself masterfully. I believe that's master-bating.
:goodposting: I would have gone with "master-debating" here - a little more linguistically accurate and still makes the point. Let's put in a little effort here people.

Carry on with the group debating.

BTW, I agree with the thought that Deuce is close to worthless in dynasty. If Bush can carry the load he's done - and if not, NO will likely bring in another back to help spell Bush. Either way Deuce's days in NO are numbered and not too many teams are going to take a chance on a 30 year old RB with bad wheels (Philly alrady has Westy).

 
im not sure where i have him ranked #RB wise...but...

IR spot is lovely.

18-20+ man roster is worth one spot.

Chris Henry, Kenton Keith, Selvin Young, MRobinson will ALL be worth less than Deuce when he comes back next season. Rostering Deuce for another year or two with the upside of a RB2 or RB3, easily doubles the value any of your named rbs now or ever. Spot fanasy starters vs a sure-fire real-life starter. Easy choice. Too bad your intuition points you in the wrong direction.

Way to take the high road by saying all these guys will score more points than deuce this year. :banned: None of them will ever make it off your bench. If they do, your dynasty team is trash.

Only person really worth having carries a big IF around his neck. And that is Kenton Kieth, waiting for Addai to be banged up allowing him to fill in for a week or two at best. You are the person to needs to show some creativity.

 
you guys need to relax a bit. It depends on the league. If you can put him on your IR list for no cost, then great, he won't cost you anything. If you are looking at holding onto Deuce, when you could take a gamble on a younger player with more upside then it is a different story.

 
I would say that if you already have him on your roster in deep league, he is another dart on the board. My guess is that someone would give a late shot in the dark draft pick or a "you have to get totally lucky" type player.

 
im not sure where i have him ranked #RB wise...but...IR spot is lovely. 18-20+ man roster is worth one spot. Chris Henry, Kenton Keith, Selvin Young, MRobinson will ALL be worth less than Deuce when he comes back next season. Rostering Deuce for another year or two with the upside of a RB2 or RB3, easily doubles the value any of your named rbs now or ever. Spot fanasy starters vs a sure-fire real-life starter. Easy choice. Too bad your intuition points you in the wrong direction. Way to take the high road by saying all these guys will score more points than deuce this year. :deadhorse: None of them will ever make it off your bench. If they do, your dynasty team is trash. Only person really worth having carries a big IF around his neck. And that is Kenton Kieth, waiting for Addai to be banged up allowing him to fill in for a week or two at best. You are the person to needs to show some creativity.
Not every league has an IR spot. If you can stick him there, then fine... that is pretty obvious. The same situation applies if you have deep rosters. However, many leagues do have limited roster sizes and the cost of holding Deuce for an extended time for a questionable pay-off is that roster spot. And what is the value of that roster spot? The implication of people scoring points is that they're still playing and could be helpful to your team THIS year. Who said he was limited to picking up one of the above? These were guys identified as having little promise, which may/may not be true. Instead of taking the glass half empty perspective, why not be more optimistic and find someone you think has upside and/or a potential opportunity, like a Brian Calhoun. How about a guys who could be a UFA next season? Another option is to use the roster spot for a handcuff. There is more than one owner out there this week who wishes they handcuffed SJax or Rudi.
 

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