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Witten also. That guy is going to have 15+ catches if Dez doesn't play.Bump Miles Austin.
Witten also. That guy is going to have 15+ catches if Dez doesn't play.Bump Miles Austin.
I agree with the part that he is being shafted. The kid has obvious social interaction issues as it is and is being pressured unfairly. I know..lots of Dez haters out there that will see it differently but if this was going down with a guy like Gronk, I'm betting people would be villifying Belichick (Kraft would probably get a pass).one would think dez's agent would jump in here. this is a crummy move by a classless owner. dez is all heart and he is being manipulated.
I'm tempted to roll with Josh Gordon against the secondarily changed Redskins instead.'Ace zero1 said:Are you guys still starting him even with the injury if he does play?
Grr... I might play Austin, but I have go up vs Witten this week. Icky... Thinking I will start CAM again over ROMO though even if Dez plays.Witten also. That guy is going to have 15+ catches if Dez doesn't play.Bump Miles Austin.
Steelers secondary is hurting right now...Too risky for a playoff game...what if he hurts it again 1 pass in or he is used as a decoy instead.....plus Pitt is a good d......if you have a good option I would use it - I'm starting Cobb over Dez.
Yep!Steelers secondary is hurting right now...Too risky for a playoff game...what if he hurts it again 1 pass in or he is used as a decoy instead.....plus Pitt is a good d......if you have a good option I would use it - I'm starting Cobb over Dez.
Steelers projected starting CBs Cortez Allen and Keenan Lewis are both nursing hip flexor injuries this week.
The matchup for the Cowboys passing game keeps getting better. While Lewis is expected to play Sunday, Allen's status is in question. Third cornerback Curtis Brown was benched for ineffectiveness last week after getting toasted by Bolts slot receiver Michael Spurlock. Related: Keenan Lewis
Source: Washington Observer-Reporter Dec 11 - 3:18 PM
Phillip Rivers just had a great game against them.Steelers secondary is hurting right now...Too risky for a playoff game...what if he hurts it again 1 pass in or he is used as a decoy instead.....plus Pitt is a good d......if you have a good option I would use it - I'm starting Cobb over Dez.
I don't think they would use him as a decoy if he plays. If he plays he's in there to win them the game. They can make the playoffs with a win and a bears and redskins loss, which given injuries to those teams seems likely.Too risky for a playoff game...what if he hurts it again 1 pass in or he is used as a decoy instead.....plus Pitt is a good d......if you have a good option I would use it - I'm starting Cobb over Dez.
The CB position is a mess right now: Ike Taylor is out and Keenan Lewis has a hip flexor although it sounds like he will play. Cortez Allen looks to be out so Curtis Brown will likely get the start. Brown has shown flashes this season but did not play well at all against the Chargers. Josh Victorian, signed off the practice squad last week played extensively last week and was not impressive, will likely play quite a bit against Dallas.The only plus on defense is that LB LaMarr Woodley, out for the past couple of weeks, is expected back.Phillip Rivers just had a great game against them.Steelers secondary is hurting right now...Too risky for a playoff game...what if he hurts it again 1 pass in or he is used as a decoy instead.....plus Pitt is a good d......if you have a good option I would use it - I'm starting Cobb over Dez.
The Skins play Cleveland then Philly...I think they'd stand a chance of winning those two even without RGIII. Week 17 they play the Cowboys. That's the one that matters. If you look at the NFC East, the Skins have the easiest road from here on out.I don't think they would use him as a decoy if he plays. If he plays he's in there to win them the game. They can make the playoffs with a win and a bears and redskins loss, which given injuries to those teams seems likely.Too risky for a playoff game...what if he hurts it again 1 pass in or he is used as a decoy instead.....plus Pitt is a good d......if you have a good option I would use it - I'm starting Cobb over Dez.
Oh good god.....Has anyone looked at the hands of most former WR's in the NFL. Go take a look at Torry Holt's hands...the have crooked fingers all over. You act like he could die on the field or his career could be over. That's not the case. At worse his finger may never go back straight, well welcome to reality to many people that have caught passes playing football.one would think dez's agent would jump in here. this is a crummy move by a classless owner. dez is all heart and he is being manipulated.
what are you talking about? not one thing i said is untrue. i dont care if he plays or not....an owner of a football team should not be stating that guys with broken bones should make the decision on risking their health. that's how the entire concussion mess started.Oh good god.....Has anyone looked at the hands of most former WR's in the NFL. Go take a look at Torry Holt's hands...the have crooked fingers all over. You act like he could die on the field or his career could be over. That's not the case. At worse his finger may never go back straight, well welcome to reality to many people that have caught passes playing football.one would think dez's agent would jump in here. this is a crummy move by a classless owner. dez is all heart and he is being manipulated.
Finger <> Brain. Barring a doctor saying that playing again raises the chances of his finger falling completely off greatly I think it is Dez's decision. Why wouldn't it be.what are you talking about? not one thing i said is untrue. i dont care if he plays or not....an owner of a football team should not be stating that guys with broken bones should make the decision on risking their health. that's how the entire concussion mess started.Oh good god.....Has anyone looked at the hands of most former WR's in the NFL. Go take a look at Torry Holt's hands...the have crooked fingers all over. You act like he could die on the field or his career could be over. That's not the case. At worse his finger may never go back straight, well welcome to reality to many people that have caught passes playing football.one would think dez's agent would jump in here. this is a crummy move by a classless owner. dez is all heart and he is being manipulated.
i also meant to add....i wrote that first post when it was reported a ligament injury. only being a break changes things obvFinger <> Brain. Barring a doctor saying that playing again raises the chances of his finger falling completely off greatly I think it is Dez's decision. Why wouldn't it be.what are you talking about? not one thing i said is untrue. i dont care if he plays or not....an owner of a football team should not be stating that guys with broken bones should make the decision on risking their health. that's how the entire concussion mess started.Oh good god.....Has anyone looked at the hands of most former WR's in the NFL. Go take a look at Torry Holt's hands...the have crooked fingers all over. You act like he could die on the field or his career could be over. That's not the case. At worse his finger may never go back straight, well welcome to reality to many people that have caught passes playing football.one would think dez's agent would jump in here. this is a crummy move by a classless owner. dez is all heart and he is being manipulated.
What is a Curtis Brown? Just curious in IDP leagues (i.e., looking for a CB that might get picked on).The CB position is a mess right now: Ike Taylor is out and Keenan Lewis has a hip flexor although it sounds like he will play. Cortez Allen looks to be out so Curtis Brown will likely get the start. Brown has shown flashes this season but did not play well at all against the Chargers. Josh Victorian, signed off the practice squad last week played extensively last week and was not impressive, will likely play quite a bit against Dallas.The only plus on defense is that LB LaMarr Woodley, out for the past couple of weeks, is expected back.Phillip Rivers just had a great game against them.Steelers secondary is hurting right now...Too risky for a playoff game...what if he hurts it again 1 pass in or he is used as a decoy instead.....plus Pitt is a good d......if you have a good option I would use it - I'm starting Cobb over Dez.
He is a CB and a good candidate to be picked on this Sunday.'Shutout said:What is a Curtis Brown? Just curious in IDP leagues (i.e., looking for a CB that might get picked on).The CB position is a mess right now: Ike Taylor is out and Keenan Lewis has a hip flexor although it sounds like he will play. Cortez Allen looks to be out so Curtis Brown will likely get the start. Brown has shown flashes this season but did not play well at all against the Chargers. Josh Victorian, signed off the practice squad last week played extensively last week and was not impressive, will likely play quite a bit against Dallas.The only plus on defense is that LB LaMarr Woodley, out for the past couple of weeks, is expected back.Phillip Rivers just had a great game against them.Steelers secondary is hurting right now...Too risky for a playoff game...what if he hurts it again 1 pass in or he is used as a decoy instead.....plus Pitt is a good d......if you have a good option I would use it - I'm starting Cobb over Dez.
That's what I like to hear. Thanks. So, looking like he draws the start over Victorian?He is a CB and a good candidate to be picked on this Sunday.'Shutout said:What is a Curtis Brown? Just curious in IDP leagues (i.e., looking for a CB that might get picked on).The CB position is a mess right now: Ike Taylor is out and Keenan Lewis has a hip flexor although it sounds like he will play. Cortez Allen looks to be out so Curtis Brown will likely get the start. Brown has shown flashes this season but did not play well at all against the Chargers. Josh Victorian, signed off the practice squad last week played extensively last week and was not impressive, will likely play quite a bit against Dallas.The only plus on defense is that LB LaMarr Woodley, out for the past couple of weeks, is expected back.Phillip Rivers just had a great game against them.Steelers secondary is hurting right now...Too risky for a playoff game...what if he hurts it again 1 pass in or he is used as a decoy instead.....plus Pitt is a good d......if you have a good option I would use it - I'm starting Cobb over Dez.
I think so but there is a chance both will start if Keenan Lewis is unable to go. A very scary prospect for the Steelers defense...That's what I like to hear. Thanks. So, looking like he draws the start over Victorian?He is a CB and a good candidate to be picked on this Sunday.'Shutout said:What is a Curtis Brown? Just curious in IDP leagues (i.e., looking for a CB that might get picked on).The CB position is a mess right now: Ike Taylor is out and Keenan Lewis has a hip flexor although it sounds like he will play. Cortez Allen looks to be out so Curtis Brown will likely get the start. Brown has shown flashes this season but did not play well at all against the Chargers. Josh Victorian, signed off the practice squad last week played extensively last week and was not impressive, will likely play quite a bit against Dallas.The only plus on defense is that LB LaMarr Woodley, out for the past couple of weeks, is expected back.Phillip Rivers just had a great game against them.Steelers secondary is hurting right now...Too risky for a playoff game...what if he hurts it again 1 pass in or he is used as a decoy instead.....plus Pitt is a good d......if you have a good option I would use it - I'm starting Cobb over Dez.
I'm in this boat as well... starting Gordon in two playoff leagues over Dez.If he does well, doesn't re-injure, and Cowboys in the playoff hunt still next week then I will consider playing him (if I advance).I'm tempted to roll with Josh Gordon against the secondarily changed Redskins instead.'Ace zero1 said:Are you guys still starting him even with the injury if he does play?
As I Cowboys fan, I long for a future where our O-line is below average; it'd be a major upgrade.Lets not forget that the Cowboys O-line is below average at best.
LOL, this is hardly an endorsement for Dez. Perhaps this was meant sarcastically.Only guy on my team I'd put in over dez might be streater but I don't know if I want to.
I broke a finger catching a football. I thought I had just jammed it and while it hurt like crazy I taped it up and kept playing. Continuing to play caused the break to spider fracture and I had to get pins put in to secure the bone. I can move the finger now but with significantly limited range of motion. It does not really effect me in my normal life, but if I was an NFL WR I can see how it would limit my production.This is not a "tough-guy" type of decision. If playing could do permanent damage that could limit his ability in the future then he should give serious consideration to having the surgery now. Being tough is cool, but not at the cost of being stupid.Oh good god.....Has anyone looked at the hands of most former WR's in the NFL. Go take a look at Torry Holt's hands...the have crooked fingers all over. You act like he could die on the field or his career could be over. That's not the case. At worse his finger may never go back straight, well welcome to reality to many people that have caught passes playing football.one would think dez's agent would jump in here. this is a crummy move by a classless owner. dez is all heart and he is being manipulated.
Sure hope so. I'm split between Dez and D.Alexander myself. I wish we had a flex spot as I have yet to use DX.LOL, this is hardly an endorsement for Dez. Perhaps this was meant sarcastically.Only guy on my team I'd put in over dez might be streater but I don't know if I want to.
This. I'd prefer he shut it down. I'll find a guy for a week or two if it means Dez is Dez for a decade.I broke a finger catching a football. I thought I had just jammed it and while it hurt like crazy I taped it up and kept playing. Continuing to play caused the break to spider fracture and I had to get pins put in to secure the bone. I can move the finger now but with significantly limited range of motion. It does not really effect me in my normal life, but if I was an NFL WR I can see how it would limit my production.This is not a "tough-guy" type of decision. If playing could do permanent damage that could limit his ability in the future then he should give serious consideration to having the surgery now. Being tough is cool, but not at the cost of being stupid.Oh good god.....Has anyone looked at the hands of most former WR's in the NFL. Go take a look at Torry Holt's hands...the have crooked fingers all over. You act like he could die on the field or his career could be over. That's not the case. At worse his finger may never go back straight, well welcome to reality to many people that have caught passes playing football.one would think dez's agent would jump in here. this is a crummy move by a classless owner. dez is all heart and he is being manipulated.
No doubt! This is already affecting my lineup decisions. By committing to Bryce Brown on Thursday, I can now flex out Gore for Dez if it looks like he'll play. But only if I start Brown can afford to wait on the late Sunday reports. Whew! Go big or go home is right!I've got a solid option so I'm benching him but boy, oh boy, is this a tough call. Yes, dez has that history of going out and running decoy interference but this isn't a quad or knee, its 1 of 10 digits. And then theres' this MASH unit Steeler secondary that looks SOooo inviting...and to top it all off, its a late game so you could roll dice and end up with an inactive when he hurts it in warmups.
If it were any other time of the year, I'd say to heck with it and roll but in the playoffs, with everything on the line, wow...ultimate go big or go home call here.
This. I can live with playing him and losing because he stunk. But I can't live with losing because I left him on my bench and he blew up.Sorry there is no way I'm benching Dez because of 1 finger if he plays. Not concerned one bit.
Over Wallace and (maybe) torrey? That's an interesting list you have there. Tough calls.If he goes, I'll be starting Dez over guys like Torrey, Britt, Sid, Maclin, and Wallace.
Exactly. Considering who my replacements are (Hilton or D. Moore), I'd rather risk it with Dez and have him go 2/11/0 in my lineup rather than go 7/110/1 on my bench.I already experienced it in Week 1 of the playoffs with DX on my bench and almost losing because of it. #### me if I'll let that happen again.This. I can live with playing him and losing because he stunk. But I can't live with losing because I left him on my bench and he blew up.Sorry there is no way I'm benching Dez because of 1 finger if he plays. Not concerned one bit.
Limit his ability to do what?? Pick his nose? My god it's a finger, how horrible will his life be with limited use of one finger? Tape it up and get out there and get your team in the playoffs.I broke a finger catching a football. I thought I had just jammed it and while it hurt like crazy I taped it up and kept playing. Continuing to play caused the break to spider fracture and I had to get pins put in to secure the bone. I can move the finger now but with significantly limited range of motion. It does not really effect me in my normal life, but if I was an NFL WR I can see how it would limit my production.This is not a "tough-guy" type of decision. If playing could do permanent damage that could limit his ability in the future then he should give serious consideration to having the surgery now. Being tough is cool, but not at the cost of being stupid.Oh good god.....Has anyone looked at the hands of most former WR's in the NFL. Go take a look at Torry Holt's hands...the have crooked fingers all over. You act like he could die on the field or his career could be over. That's not the case. At worse his finger may never go back straight, well welcome to reality to many people that have caught passes playing football.one would think dez's agent would jump in here. this is a crummy move by a classless owner. dez is all heart and he is being manipulated.
I hate to think what that makes you. Seriously, do you feel better about yourself putting someone down because your opinion differs?'thehornet said:no polite way to say it....you're dumb.Limit his ability to do what?? Pick his nose? My god it's a finger, how horrible will his life be with limited use of one finger? Tape it up and get out there and get your team in the playoffs.I broke a finger catching a football. I thought I had just jammed it and while it hurt like crazy I taped it up and kept playing. Continuing to play caused the break to spider fracture and I had to get pins put in to secure the bone. I can move the finger now but with significantly limited range of motion. It does not really effect me in my normal life, but if I was an NFL WR I can see how it would limit my production.This is not a "tough-guy" type of decision. If playing could do permanent damage that could limit his ability in the future then he should give serious consideration to having the surgery now. Being tough is cool, but not at the cost of being stupid.Oh good god.....Has anyone looked at the hands of most former WR's in the NFL. Go take a look at Torry Holt's hands...the have crooked fingers all over. You act like he could die on the field or his career could be over. That's not the case. At worse his finger may never go back straight, well welcome to reality to many people that have caught passes playing football.one would think dez's agent would jump in here. this is a crummy move by a classless owner. dez is all heart and he is being manipulated.
what? dude it was a stupid comment.I hate to think what that makes you. Seriously, do you feel better about yourself putting someone down because your opinion differs?'thehornet said:no polite way to say it....you're dumb.Limit his ability to do what?? Pick his nose? My god it's a finger, how horrible will his life be with limited use of one finger? Tape it up and get out there and get your team in the playoffs.I broke a finger catching a football. I thought I had just jammed it and while it hurt like crazy I taped it up and kept playing. Continuing to play caused the break to spider fracture and I had to get pins put in to secure the bone. I can move the finger now but with significantly limited range of motion. It does not really effect me in my normal life, but if I was an NFL WR I can see how it would limit my production.This is not a "tough-guy" type of decision. If playing could do permanent damage that could limit his ability in the future then he should give serious consideration to having the surgery now. Being tough is cool, but not at the cost of being stupid.Oh good god.....Has anyone looked at the hands of most former WR's in the NFL. Go take a look at Torry Holt's hands...the have crooked fingers all over. You act like he could die on the field or his career could be over. That's not the case. At worse his finger may never go back straight, well welcome to reality to many people that have caught passes playing football.one would think dez's agent would jump in here. this is a crummy move by a classless owner. dez is all heart and he is being manipulated.
'thehornet said:no polite way to say it....you're dumb.Limit his ability to do what?? Pick his nose? My god it's a finger, how horrible will his life be with limited use of one finger? Tape it up and get out there and get your team in the playoffs.I broke a finger catching a football. I thought I had just jammed it and while it hurt like crazy I taped it up and kept playing. Continuing to play caused the break to spider fracture and I had to get pins put in to secure the bone. I can move the finger now but with significantly limited range of motion. It does not really effect me in my normal life, but if I was an NFL WR I can see how it would limit my production.This is not a "tough-guy" type of decision. If playing could do permanent damage that could limit his ability in the future then he should give serious consideration to having the surgery now. Being tough is cool, but not at the cost of being stupid.Oh good god.....Has anyone looked at the hands of most former WR's in the NFL. Go take a look at Torry Holt's hands...the have crooked fingers all over. You act like he could die on the field or his career could be over. That's not the case. At worse his finger may never go back straight, well welcome to reality to many people that have caught passes playing football.one would think dez's agent would jump in here. this is a crummy move by a classless owner. dez is all heart and he is being manipulated.
Nevermind. But thanks for the laugh.Perhaps. Perhaps not. Seems strange for you to comment on this, though. Seems to be a pretty universal sentiment about you.'thehornet said:no polite way to say it....you're dumb.Limit his ability to do what?? Pick his nose? My god it's a finger, how horrible will his life be with limited use of one finger? Tape it up and get out there and get your team in the playoffs.I broke a finger catching a football. I thought I had just jammed it and while it hurt like crazy I taped it up and kept playing. Continuing to play caused the break to spider fracture and I had to get pins put in to secure the bone. I can move the finger now but with significantly limited range of motion. It does not really effect me in my normal life, but if I was an NFL WR I can see how it would limit my production.This is not a "tough-guy" type of decision. If playing could do permanent damage that could limit his ability in the future then he should give serious consideration to having the surgery now. Being tough is cool, but not at the cost of being stupid.Oh good god.....Has anyone looked at the hands of most former WR's in the NFL. Go take a look at Torry Holt's hands...the have crooked fingers all over. You act like he could die on the field or his career could be over. That's not the case. At worse his finger may never go back straight, well welcome to reality to many people that have caught passes playing football.one would think dez's agent would jump in here. this is a crummy move by a classless owner. dez is all heart and he is being manipulated.