Did anyone else hear John Clayton on ESPN today? (1 Viewer)

[Raider Nation]

Why is this a surprise? Lovie drafted him #4 overall. In fact, the head coach is the only friend he's got on that team...

Actually Angelo drafted him #4. But Lovie has a soft spot in his heart for players from Texas and Oklahoma.If the headcase known as Cedric Benson is named the starter, Lovie Smith is going to lose half of his team....and I welcome it. Lovie Smith has REALLY pissed me off this offseason:> Getting his agent to start chirping about extending his contract (been there done that with #### Jauron - sorry champ... WIN a playoff game, and then earn your extension)> Running the SOFTEST training camp I have ever witnessed> Going along with Angelo that the Bears didn't need any WRs or TEs this past NFL draft or in free agency.The scary part is the Bears still might succeed DESPITE THE FACT GROSSMAN HAS NOT ENGINEERED ONE TD DRIVE THIS PRESEASON.They play the easiest schedule and face first time head coaches in EIGHT games.

Lovie played at the University of Tulsa, for those that wonder why Grid said that above

That may explain why Grid would say it, but still doesn't make any sense.

Especially the "head case" part of it. That is nothing but unwarranted speculation.As soon as Benson starts ripping off strings of 100 yard games for GRID's beloved Bears, Benson will suddenly become the most mentally-stable person on the planet.

 

[Fols]

Anyone take the time to check out the depth chart on the Bear's website

NEITHER ONE

That is the 2005 Depth Chart.

 

[broncofan13000]

Anyone take the time to check out the depth chart on the Bear's website

NEITHER ONE

That is the 2005 Depth Chart.

2005 Team Depth Chart

OFFENSE Depth Chart

Pos. 1st String 2nd String 3rd String

WR 87 Muhsin Muhammad 81 Rashied Davis

LT 76 John Tait 78 John St. Clair

LG 74 Ruben Brown 72 Travis Leffew

C 57 Olin Kreutz 68 Anthony Oakley

RG 63 Roberto Garza 64 Tyler Reed

RT 69 Fred Miller 79 Steve Edwards 75 Mark LeVoir

TE 88 Desmond Clark 85 John Gilmore 82 Gabe Reid

WR 80 Bernard Berrian 16 Mark Bradley 12 Justin Gage

QB 8 Rex Grossman 14 Brian Griese 18 Kyle Orton

FB 37 Jason McKie 48 J.D. Runnels 44 Keith Belton

RB 29 Adrian Peterson 36 P.J. Pope 25 Andre Hall

 

[Fols]

Anyone take the time to check out the depth chart on the Bear's website

NEITHER ONE

That is the 2005 Depth Chart.

2005 Team Depth Chart

OFFENSE Depth Chart

Pos. 1st String 2nd String 3rd String

WR 87 Muhsin Muhammad 81 Rashied Davis

LT 76 John Tait 78 John St. Clair

LG 74 Ruben Brown 72 Travis Leffew

C 57 Olin Kreutz 68 Anthony Oakley

RG 63 Roberto Garza 64 Tyler Reed

RT 69 Fred Miller 79 Steve Edwards 75 Mark LeVoir

TE 88 Desmond Clark 85 John Gilmore 82 Gabe Reid

WR 80 Bernard Berrian 16 Mark Bradley 12 Justin Gage

QB 8 Rex Grossman 14 Brian Griese 18 Kyle Orton

FB 37 Jason McKie 48 J.D. Runnels 44 Keith Belton

RB 29 Adrian Peterson 36 P.J. Pope 25 Andre Hall

You are right, it does read 2005 at the top though. Is this possibly a game day depth chart? You would think TJ and Cedric would be on it somewhere.

 

[ericttspikes]

Why is this a surprise? Lovie drafted him #4 overall. In fact, the head coach is the only friend he's got on that team...

Angelo drafted him. Lovie plays whomever gives the team the best chance to win.

Lovie played and coached in Big Sandy. Cedric is from Midland. Lovie has watched this kid his whole career and has the Texas connection going. Lovie also personally made a trip to Texas before the draft meet with Cedric. Lovie has a lot invested in picking Benson.

 

[brakeyawself]

Why is this a surprise? Lovie drafted him #4 overall. In fact, the head coach is the only friend he's got on that team...

Angelo drafted him. Lovie plays whomever gives the team the best chance to win.

Lovie played and coached in Big Sandy. Cedric is from Midland. Lovie has watched this kid his whole career and has the Texas connection going. Lovie also personally made a trip to Texas before the draft meet with Cedric. Lovie has a lot invested in picking Benson.

So do the bears in general. Im uber suprised they havnt tried to trade Jones more vigerously. Peterson is a more than qualified backup to Benson. He could probably even be the other back in a RBBC situation.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

Why is this a surprise? Lovie drafted him #4 overall. In fact, the head coach is the only friend he's got on that team...

Actually Angelo drafted him #4. But Lovie has a soft spot in his heart for players from Texas and Oklahoma.If the headcase known as Cedric Benson is named the starter, Lovie Smith is going to lose half of his team.

...and I welcome it.

Lovie Smith has REALLY pissed me off this offseason:

> Getting his agent to start chirping about extending his contract (been there done that with #### Jauron - sorry champ... WIN a playoff game, and then earn your extension)

> Running the SOFTEST training camp I have ever witnessed

> Going along with Angelo that the Bears didn't need any WRs or TEs this past NFL draft or in free agency.

The scary part is the Bears still might succeed DESPITE THE FACT GROSSMAN HAS NOT ENGINEERED ONE TD DRIVE THIS PRESEASON.

They play the easiest schedule and face first time head coaches in EIGHT games.

Lovie played at the University of Tulsa, for those that wonder why Grid said that above

That may explain why Grid would say it, but still doesn't make any sense.

Especially the "head case" part of it. That is nothing but unwarranted speculation.As soon as Benson starts ripping off strings of 100 yard games for GRID's beloved Bears, Benson will suddenly become the most mentally-stable person on the planet.

There is nothing that warrants calling Benson a 'headcase'?You have GOT TO BE kidding me. He skips out on the team during a preseason game, then skips the post-game meeting, and he apologizes but doesn't regret anything. Calling it a 'learning situation'.

He goes out of his way to say he doesn't need his teammates to be friends with him. Would anybody actually say that if they were a highly paid new employee at a company, knowing that all of their coworkers would catch wind of it - and also knowing that they basically were AWOL for the first year?

Bears players may outwardly say they have no problem with Cedric Benson, but trust me... they know that Thomas Jones was working hard to get back on the field last year - as the playoffs were on the line. Yet Benson was taking his sweet time, even when the training staff said he was cleared to play two weeks prior. Players remember that kind of stuff.

It'll all be proven this season though... time will tell.

Much like many of you, I'm tired of talking about it - and I want the REAL season to start.

It'll be interesting to see if Lovie/Angelo have the Bears offensive starters play more than a 'couple of series' this week, as they are one of the few 'first stringers' in the NFL that has yet to score a touchdown.

 

[Raider Nation]

Why is this a surprise? Lovie drafted him #4 overall. In fact, the head coach is the only friend he's got on that team...

Actually Angelo drafted him #4. But Lovie has a soft spot in his heart for players from Texas and Oklahoma.If the headcase known as Cedric Benson is named the starter, Lovie Smith is going to lose half of his team.

...and I welcome it.

Lovie Smith has REALLY pissed me off this offseason:

> Getting his agent to start chirping about extending his contract (been there done that with #### Jauron - sorry champ... WIN a playoff game, and then earn your extension)

> Running the SOFTEST training camp I have ever witnessed

> Going along with Angelo that the Bears didn't need any WRs or TEs this past NFL draft or in free agency.

The scary part is the Bears still might succeed DESPITE THE FACT GROSSMAN HAS NOT ENGINEERED ONE TD DRIVE THIS PRESEASON.

They play the easiest schedule and face first time head coaches in EIGHT games.

Lovie played at the University of Tulsa, for those that wonder why Grid said that above

That may explain why Grid would say it, but still doesn't make any sense.

Especially the "head case" part of it. That is nothing but unwarranted speculation.As soon as Benson starts ripping off strings of 100 yard games for GRID's beloved Bears, Benson will suddenly become the most mentally-stable person on the planet.

There is nothing that warrants calling Benson a 'headcase'?You have GOT TO BE kidding me. He skips out on the team during a preseason game, then skips the post-game meeting, and he apologizes but doesn't regret anything. Calling it a 'learning situation'.

He goes out of his way to say he doesn't need his teammates to be friends with him. Would anybody actually say that if they were a highly paid new employee at a company, knowing that all of their coworkers would catch wind of it - and also knowing that they basically were AWOL for the first year?

Bears players may outwardly say they have no problem with Cedric Benson, but trust me... they know that Thomas Jones was working hard to get back on the field last year - as the playoffs were on the line. Yet Benson was taking his sweet time, even when the training staff said he was cleared to play two weeks prior. Players remember that kind of stuff.

It'll all be proven this season though... time will tell.

Much like many of you, I'm tired of talking about it - and I want the REAL season to start.

It'll be interesting to see if Lovie/Angelo have the Bears offensive starters play more than a 'couple of series' this week, as they are one of the few 'first stringers' in the NFL that has yet to score a touchdown.

GRID,I hear what you're saying, but everything you touched on are issues of immaturity, first and foremost. Calling the guy a head case implies that he has clinical psychiatric problems, and we have no evidence of that. This may seem like semantics to you, but you wouldn't like it if your co-workers thought you were a certified nut job, rather than just a young guy who had some growing up to do.

 

[cybergourmet]

"just a young guy who had some growing up to do."

sure it's out of context... but that seems to be akin to most "athlete character-issue" stories...