Did Costumed Goons Break Thabo Sefolosha's Leg? (1 Viewer)

[Jack White]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12662009/nbpa-probing-police-tactics-thabo-sefolosha-arrest-broken-fibula

Here is a video of the thug scrum taking him down.

 

[joffer]

I'll take thread titles I was fairly sure I'd never see, for $400 Alex

 

[bigmarc27]

Cops acting like meatheads? No way!

 

[rockaction]

I ####### kind of really like Jackie White.

 

[The General]

Clear cut resisting arrest.

 

[MaxThreshold]

No need to fear! The NBPA is on the case! I'm sure they'll get to the bottom of it.

Do we really have to discuss the perils of resisting arrest? I mean, seriously, why is this even an issue?

 

[rockaction]

No need to fear! The NBPA is on the case! I'm sure they'll get to the bottom of it.

Do we really have to discuss the perils of resisting arrest? I mean, seriously, why is this even an issue?

Because you might not be resisting arrest but get charged for it?

Or the cops, as is always the unwritten rule and is taught within the Thin Blue Line, simply yell "stop resisting!" so that bystanders think you're resisting while they dog pile on you and beat you? I mean, seriously, is that a difficult concept to understand?

 

[joffer]

No need to fear! The NBPA is on the case! I'm sure they'll get to the bottom of it.

Do we really have to discuss the perils of resisting arrest? I mean, seriously, why is this even an issue?

Because you might not be resisting arrest but get charged for it?

Or the cops, as is always the unwritten rule and is taught within the Thin Blue Line, simply yell "stop resisting!" so that bystanders think you're resisting while they dog pile on you and beat you? I mean, seriously, is that a difficult concept to understand?

for most people or Max?

 

[MaxThreshold]

No need to fear! The NBPA is on the case! I'm sure they'll get to the bottom of it.

Do we really have to discuss the perils of resisting arrest? I mean, seriously, why is this even an issue?

Because you might not be resisting arrest but get charged for it?

Or the cops, as is always the unwritten rule and is taught within the Thin Blue Line, simply yell "stop resisting!" so that bystanders think you're resisting while they dog pile on you and beat you? I mean, seriously, is that a difficult concept to understand?

Oh, that's right. I forgot. This is the "I hate cops" crowd.

 

[rockaction]

No need to fear! The NBPA is on the case! I'm sure they'll get to the bottom of it.

Do we really have to discuss the perils of resisting arrest? I mean, seriously, why is this even an issue?

Because you might not be resisting arrest but get charged for it?

Or the cops, as is always the unwritten rule and is taught within the Thin Blue Line, simply yell "stop resisting!" so that bystanders think you're resisting while they dog pile on you and beat you? I mean, seriously, is that a difficult concept to understand?

Oh, that's right. I forgot. This is the "I hate cops" crowd.

Nah, I'm just done with the instrument of government force being protected by war equipment, shady tactics and unionization.

We probably agree on many things, but if you dig a monopoly on force, coupled with serious militaristic equipment and favorable laws about retaliation, all mixed in with a sense of entitlement with a process of discipline befitting a public union, then go ahead and make yourself at home.

I hardly call that conservative.

eta* Not to mention the discretionary aspect of law enforcement. Almost anything you do breaks a law. It's up to the police to use discretion to enforce it. I'd like to take a swipe at those laws, frankly, and reduce them greatly, so that they resemble something like a free republic (in terms of that which is codified and that which is case law.)

 

[RCon]

No need to fear! The NBPA is on the case! I'm sure they'll get to the bottom of it.

Do we really have to discuss the perils of resisting arrest? I mean, seriously, why is this even an issue?

I didn't see any resisting arrest in that video. I saw overzealous cops getting off on beating someone up for no reason. I mean, that never happens, right?

 

[Max Power]

He shouldn't have been standing there. People know Cops have a tendency to over-react and yet they poke the bear anyway and cry about the aftermath.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

I mean, seriously.

 

[gianmarco]

http://deadspin.com/thabo-sefolosha-blames-the-nypd-for-his-broken-leg-1697786029

Uh oh

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

He should be thankful he didn't run first or he'd have five bullets in his back.

 

[rockaction]

Were they driving a stripped-down version of an ideological Honda when they did it?

 

[Jack White]

Thabo says, "Yes."

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12690400/thabo-sefolosha-atlanta-hawks-says-ny-police-caused-season-ending-injury

As for the "resisting arrest" canard . . . it is well known that cops will chant the mantra "stop resisting" even as they are beating passive victims.

I saw a video yesterday where a cop in full fatigues and a military vehicle pulled a guy over for an "improper hand signal" and started his belligerent verbal routine. The thug told his victim if he didn't follow orders, he would be arrested.

"Arrested for what?"

"For resisting arrest!"

 

[rockaction]

Stop resisting! *punch, kick, baton*

Stop resisting! *punch, kick, another baton, maybe taser*

Stop resisting! Why do you fear for your life???!!!!!

 

[Cjw_55106]

It seems to me that if he was acting like the fella in the white pants, the arrest is peaceful.

 

[Sammy3469]

At the time, the source said, Sefolosha and Antic were walking down the block to get into a car that would take them back to their team hotel. The source said Sefolosha did not run toward the cop as the complaint said. Rather, the source said “Sefolosha turns to him and asked in substance what the officer’s problem was with him.’” At this point, the source said, Sefolosha and the officer got into an argument, which led to Sefolosha’s arrest for obstruction a governmental function, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct. The arrest took place at the corner of 10th Avenue, more than 120 feet away from the scene of the stabbing at 1OAK night club.

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/04/15/thabo-sefolosha-nypd-police-report-chris-copeland-stabbing

 

[TenTimes]

"Arrested for what?"

"For resisting arrest!"

 

[Jack White]

Cops routinely lie and the charges are specious.

The cop who broke Thabo's leg should be personally liable.

Alas, it's the taxpayers who will pay any financial damages.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Cops routinely lie and the charges are specious.

The cop who broke Thabo's leg should be personally liable.

Alas, it's the taxpayers who will pay any financial damages.

People at clubs till 4am are known to never lie.

Case closed.

 

[Da Guru]

Cops routinely lie and the charges are specious.

The cop who broke Thabo's leg should be personally liable.

Alas, it's the taxpayers who will pay any financial damages.

People at clubs till 4am are known to never lie.

Case closed.

Thabo played that night in Atlanta and flew ahead of the team to NY to go clubbing...instead he got clubbed.

 

[Jack White]

Cops routinely lie and the charges are specious.

The cop who broke Thabo's leg should be personally liable.

Alas, it's the taxpayers who will pay any financial damages.

People at clubs till 4am are known to never lie.

Case closed.

I don't necessarily think it's a good idea for an NBA player to be at a nightclub at 4:00 am either.

But they work at night and I'm sure he could still get proper rest before the game.

If I have to make a prediction on who's telling the truth in this case -- a class guy like Thabo Sefolosha who has no history of trouble . . . or a costumed thug -- my money's on Thabo.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Cops routinely lie and the charges are specious.

The cop who broke Thabo's leg should be personally liable.

Alas, it's the taxpayers who will pay any financial damages.

People at clubs till 4am are known to never lie.

Case closed.

I don't necessarily think it's a good idea for an NBA player to be at a nightclub at 4:00 am either.

But they work at night and I'm sure he could still get proper rest before the game.

If I have to make a prediction on who's telling the truth in this case -- a class guy like Thabo Sefolosha who has no history of trouble . . . or a costumed thug -- my money's on Thabo.

 

[Cjw_55106]

Cops routinely lie and the charges are specious.

The cop who broke Thabo's leg should be personally liable.

Alas, it's the taxpayers who will pay any financial damages.

People at clubs till 4am are known to never lie.

Case closed.

I don't necessarily think it's a good idea for an NBA player to be at a nightclub at 4:00 am either.

But they work at night and I'm sure he could still get proper rest before the game.

If I have to make a prediction on who's telling the truth in this case -- a class guy like Thabo Sefolosha who has no history of trouble . . . or a costumed thug -- my money's on Thabo.

Do the cops involved have a history? If you want to be fair in your judgement, which I know you don't, you should compare the arrest records of NBA players, not an individual. That's what you are doing for the cops.

 

[Jack White]

Cops routinely lie and the charges are specious.

The cop who broke Thabo's leg should be personally liable.

Alas, it's the taxpayers who will pay any financial damages.

People at clubs till 4am are known to never lie.

Case closed.

I don't necessarily think it's a good idea for an NBA player to be at a nightclub at 4:00 am either.

But they work at night and I'm sure he could still get proper rest before the game.

If I have to make a prediction on who's telling the truth in this case -- a class guy like Thabo Sefolosha who has no history of trouble . . . or a costumed thug -- my money's on Thabo.

Do the cops involved have a history? If you want to be fair in your judgement, which I know you don't, you should compare the arrest records of NBA players, not an individual. That's what you are doing for the cops.

That's a fair point.

My working assumption is that cops routinely lie. Not all do in all cases, of course. But by making this assumption, I believe I'll be right more often than not.

In this case, look at the charges:

obstruction a governmental function, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct

These are "crimes" that have no victim. Clearly trumped up.

One thing I do know for sure is that none of the cops involved ended up with a broken leg and ligament damage.