Did Indy cheat? (1 Viewer)

[Bonginator]

Watch and listen for the CD to start skipping

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHQTcFQEMXo

Cheaters

 

[Memphis Foundry]

I remember thinking at the time that that was feedback.

 

[Dynasty]

I've already seen this discussed on another board. I didn't notice it myself. But, quite a few other people did at the time it happened.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Big to them if that is true...

IMO, they should face some league disciplinary action from the league...

 

[Addai's Adidas]

I've already seen this discussed on another board. I didn't notice it myself. But, quite a few other people did at the time it happened.

I noticed it too, but I just assumed a piece of digital equipment was malfunctioning, like when my cable box does it.

 

[Pat Patriot]

Just goes to show that there is no cheating in the NFL. Every team does whatever it can to gain an advantage. All fair in Love, War and the NFL.

 

[Bill Lust]

It's tough to tell anything from a You Tube clip, but that is incredibly weak if true.

 

[FSR]

I heard it, but it never occurred to me that it was piped in crowd noise. I imagine the NFL will be looking into this...

 

[Max Power]

Is this illegal?

 

[Fallerjw]

I got back from the game about 30 minutes ago. The crowd noise wasn't fake.

HTH

 

[Ghost Rider]

Is this any different than when the visiting team has their headsets go down during offensive drives while playing at Foxboro?

:X

 

[Notinuse]

I heard that during the game. Thought it was my ancient TV acting up.

 

[Red Apples]

wow seriously...

they win the game and the fans cant just be proud they have the best team in the nfl

we have to put up w/ these lame threads.

sore winners

 

[Finless]

They've been doing this for 6 years

It's good to have some hard evidence.

 

[Finless]

wow seriously... they win the game and the fans cant just be proud they have the best team in the nflwe have to put up w/ these lame threads.sore winners

Yeah you're right, it should just be swept under the rug and ignored. After all it is the Colts

 

[msinex]

Yeah, I was at the game and the game last year during the playoffs...there was no piped-in noise at all. This is just plain silly...

 

[Ghost Rider]

They've been doing this for 6 years It's good to have some hard evidence.

I remember the Vikings being accused of doing this, too, back in '98.

 

[dawrecker]

i thought this site was a place to find good information instead of total garbage. We all know the pats are the team that cheats to win.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

I'm much more shocked that Moss got open on the slant 5 times in a row. Indy needs to ADJUST!

 

[PatsWillWin]

I think it would be pretty impossible for people in the crowd to know if crowd noise was faked or not.

 

[mad sweeney]

I think it would be pretty impossible for people in the crowd to know if crowd noise was faked or not.

But they could tell if the CD was skipping...It sounded like feedback to me, a technical error on the broadcast.

 

[Wu-banger]

I heard this during the broadcast too... classless on Indy's part.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I think it would be pretty impossible for people in the crowd to know if crowd noise was faked or not.

But they could tell if the CD was skipping...It sounded like feedback to me, a technical error on the broadcast.

I don't know much about this sorta thing, but how could just the crowd noise part of the broadcast get screwed up and nothing else?

 

[kilrb]

OMG.............if..........so what..............Everybody is guilty! Lynch'em up!!!

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

LOL @ CD skipping.

 

[mad sweeney]

I think it would be pretty impossible for people in the crowd to know if crowd noise was faked or not.

But they could tell if the CD was skipping...It sounded like feedback to me, a technical error on the broadcast.

I don't know much about this sorta thing, but how could just the crowd noise part of the broadcast get screwed up and nothing else?

Because there are a ton of audio channels for the game, different mics everywhere. Any one that was accidentally open would pick up crowd noise since it was in the stadium and since they weren't using that channel there was no one talking on it. Just got left open and started to feedback the only sound it was picking up, the crowd.ETA: We don't know if that sound was heard at the stadium or just over the TV. I would assume that if Pats, game officials or even any Pats fans at the game heard it they would've said something more official than Youtube "evidence"

 

[-Crippler-]

Audio equipment malfunctions for those watching at home, and the first thing that pops into your mind is that someone must be cheating?

People who have lives wouldnt have the time to think up this something that stupid. Some of you guys, on the other hand...

 

[ThePhillyKid]

wow, thats messed up

 

[Phlash]

I remember this happening.

I also remember Phil Simms saying "Brady has been forced to go the sideline to get the signal all game since this crowd has been so loud."

Well, now we know.

 

[Finless]

i thought this site was a place to find good information instead of total garbage. We all know the pats are the team that cheats to win.

It's not a big deal. But I always thought it was well known that the Colts did this. And the people who are saying it's crazy, how many people heard it live during the broadcast?...apparently a handful. Someone go Tivo this ####. And you "Dawrecker", opened this thread. The title was not misleading. If you don't like what you read hear, hit the bricks.If something surfaces from this it will be fun to hear what Dungy has to say.

 

[Phlash]

Wonder what Goodell will do. Seems like intentionally attempting to cause delay of game penalties seems like cheating.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I think the most telling sign is that as soon as the play ends, the crowd noise suddenly drops from really loud to very quiet, and while it is normal for the crowd to get quiet after a big play by the visiting team, the way it sounded when it dropped did not sound natural. It sounded like a tape being turned off. Now, I know that the networks sometime like to make the crowd noise sound louder on television, to enhance the feel of the game for the viewer, so I am not sure how much that might have to do with it.

 

[mad sweeney]

It is still unknown if this sound was heard at the stadium. Unless someone was there to hear it, this is a TV issue. And people have said they were there and didn't hear it. If it was heard at the stadium, then it deserves to be investigated. But until there's some corroborating evidence this isn't anything more than a broadcast glitch.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Audio equipment malfunctions for those watching at home, and the first thing that pops into your mind is that someone must be cheating? People who have lives wouldnt have the time to think up this something that stupid. Some of you guys, on the other hand...

This is not the only time Indy has been accused of manipulating crowd noise.

 

[culdeus]

Clearly Indy should forfeit the game. Possibly lose 1st rounders the next year as well.

 

[dickey moe]

I hope this gets somebody in trouble.

 

[Finless]

Wonder what Goodell will do. Seems like intentionally attempting to cause delay of game penalties seems like cheating.

This is worse than Cameragate.

 

[mad sweeney]

I think the most telling sign is that as soon as the play ends, the crowd noise suddenly drops from really loud to very quiet, and while it is normal for the crowd to get quiet after a big play by the visiting team, the way it sounded when it dropped did not sound natural. It sounded like a tape being turned off. Now, I know that the networks sometime like to make the crowd noise sound louder on television, to enhance the feel of the game for the viewer, so I am not sure how much that might have to do with it.

Or like a microphone? If they had a mic open that was broadcasting crowd noise, then started feeding back and they cut it, then the crownd noise would drop because the mic picking it up was cut.

 

[ThePhillyKid]

Or like a microphone? If they had a mic open that was broadcasting crowd noise, then started feeding back and they cut it, then the crownd noise would drop because the mic picking it up was cut.

Didn't sound like feedback to me. Sounded exactly like it sounds when a CD is skipping.

 

[HarryManback]

wow seriously... they win the game and the fans cant just be proud they have the best team in the nflwe have to put up w/ these lame threads.sore winners

Shut the #### up.Like there isn't enough threads bashing NE, accusing them of cheating, leg whipping, running up the score, etc.Get over it.

 

[Red Apples]

could be a cd skipping... might not be.

why would colts need to cheat, they are super bowl champions.

tony dungy is a class act as well, who would never do that.

 

[mad sweeney]

Or like a microphone? If they had a mic open that was broadcasting crowd noise, then started feeding back and they cut it, then the crownd noise would drop because the mic picking it up was cut.

Didn't sound like feedback to me. Sounded exactly like it sounds when a CD is skipping.

There are different types of feedback, it doesn't all sound like guitar feedback. I'm not saying it didn't happen, that sound could certainly be a CD skipping. But until there's a source that was at the stadium claiming they heard it, it's a technical TV goof up. It sounded like feedback to me and I have a decent background in broadcasting and television production. If it happened at the stadium we will hear about it, but other than a POed NE fan's youtube clip, there is no substance to this story.

 

[Red Apples]

wow seriously... they win the game and the fans cant just be proud they have the best team in the nflwe have to put up w/ these lame threads.sore winners

Shut the #### up.Like there isn't enough threads bashing NE, accusing them of cheating, leg whipping, running up the score, etc.Get over it.

lol, really profanity?im guessing southie

 

[Aerial Assault]

Ridiculous thread. BTW, North Carolina-Chapel Hill was caught doing this several years ago at the Dump Dome. No one cared.

 

[[scooter]]

I don't think anyone has answered the question: is this actually a violation of NFL rules?

 

[mad sweeney]

I don't think anyone has answered the question: is this actually a violation of NFL rules?

Yes it is. The Giants have repeatedly accused the Seahawks of doing it and the league investigated it, finding nothing other than an accoustically well designed stadium. Dunno what the penalty is but it is definitely illegal.

 

[ThePhillyKid]

I don't think anyone has answered the question: is this actually a violation of NFL rules?

Broadcasting something over the speakers whenever the other team is on offense???I would have to imagine it would be.

 

[JohnnyU]

Clearly Indy should forfeit the game. Possibly lose 1st rounders the next year as well.

I know for a fact that Minnesota used to do this all the time and was told to quit.

 

[redman]

I don't think anyone has answered the question: is this actually a violation of NFL rules?

I can't quote chapter and verse, but yes it is. I believe the Redskins have been accused of this too in years past. The recording is interesting, but not definitive and I don't recall any allegations against Indy in this regard.

 

[Phlash]

I don't think anyone has answered the question: is this actually a violation of NFL rules?

I can't quote chapter and verse, but yes it is. I believe the Redskins have been accused of this too in years past. The recording is interesting, but not definitive and I don't recall any allegations against Indy in this regard.

Steelers complained about this.