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Dirtiest Play In Sports? (1 Viewer)

Back in the mid 90s I was playing SS in a co-ed intramural softball game (I know, :flex: ) and this doosh nozzle is heading towards 3rd on a hit to the OF and punches the #### out of my arm for no apparent reason. (I think they were winning pretty handily).  Never forget that - was pissed at the time, but it taught me a valuable lesson:  Some people take things way too seriously and those people are jackasses.

 
Jayrod said:
Kermit v. Rudy has to be up there.  Nearly killed the man.
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Kermit Washington's punch wasn't "dirty" in the context of 1970s NBA basketball, though. Fights were a weekly occurrence, and Washington was an enforcer whose job was to protect his teammates when a fight broke out. He punched Tomjonavich because in-the-heat-of-the-moment he thought Tomjonavich was charging his teammate.

It was a reckless decision, but it shouldn't be compared to malicious punches or hockey slashes during gameplay.

 
[scooter] said:
Kermit Washington's punch wasn't "dirty" in the context of 1970s NBA basketball, though. Fights were a weekly occurrence, and Washington was an enforcer whose job was to protect his teammates when a fight broke out. He punched Tomjonavich because in-the-heat-of-the-moment he thought Tomjonavich was charging his teammate.

It was a reckless decision, but it shouldn't be compared to malicious punches or hockey slashes during gameplay.
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I hope you’re not being serious. That is widely considered one of the dirtiest things to ever happen in sports.

 
I started to post the clip of Robert Parrish sucker punching Bill Lambier from behind, but, like the refs, decided I'd allow it.

 
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kutta said:
[scooter] said:
Kermit Washington's punch wasn't "dirty" in the context of 1970s NBA basketball, though. Fights were a weekly occurrence, and Washington was an enforcer whose job was to protect his teammates when a fight broke out. He punched Tomjonavich because in-the-heat-of-the-moment he thought Tomjonavich was charging his teammate.

It was a reckless decision, but it shouldn't be compared to malicious punches or hockey slashes during gameplay.
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I hope you’re not being serious. That is widely considered one of the dirtiest things to ever happen in sports.
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I am serious.

Washington's punch is considered "dirty" because it happened to have been recorded and because Tomjonavich required surgery. But punches just like that happened all the time* in the NBA in the 1970s.

Washington's punch doesn't come close to being as dirty as the elbow in the first post. A punch during a brawl should never be considered in the same sentence as a punch during gameplay.

 
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[scooter] said:
I am serious.

Washington's punch is considered "dirty" because it happened to have been recorded and because Tomjonavich required surgery. But punches just like that happened all the time in the NBA in the 1970s.

Washington's punch doesn't come close to being as dirty as the elbow in the first post. A punch during a brawl should never be considered in the same sentence as a punch during gameplay.
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That didn’t happen “all the time.” It happened, yes, but not that blatant.

I’m pretty sure you’re on an island with this one.

 
kutta said:
[scooter] said:
I am serious.

Washington's punch is considered "dirty" because it happened to have been recorded and because Tomjonavich required surgery. But punches just like that happened all the time in the NBA in the 1970s.

Washington's punch doesn't come close to being as dirty as the elbow in the first post. A punch during a brawl should never be considered in the same sentence as a punch during gameplay.
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That didn’t happen “all the time.” It happened, yes, but not that blatant.

I’m pretty sure you’re on an island with this one.
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Dan Patrick had a pretty good take on it in 2002

 
kutta said:
I hope you’re not being serious. That is widely considered one of the dirtiest things to ever happen in sports.
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Rudy T went to a crosstown high school, and my brother used to play against him.   He was a dirty player and got in numerous fights prior to this at every level.   He had it coming.

 
Well heck. Maybe I’m wrong about the Rudy thing. I’ve always thought of it as horrible, as has everyone I’ve ever talked to about it. I guess some think differently.

 
[scooter] said:
I am serious.

Washington's punch is considered "dirty" because it happened to have been recorded and because Tomjonavich required surgery. But punches just like that happened all the time in the NBA in the 1970s.

Washington's punch doesn't come close to being as dirty as the elbow in the first post. A punch during a brawl should never be considered in the same sentence as a punch during gameplay.
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no they didn't.

 
Getzlaf15 said:
[scooter] said:
I am serious.

Washington's punch is considered "dirty" because it happened to have been recorded and because Tomjonavich required surgery. But punches just like that happened all the time in the NBA in the 1970s.

Washington's punch doesn't come close to being as dirty as the elbow in the first post. A punch during a brawl should never be considered in the same sentence as a punch during gameplay.
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no they didn't.
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:rolleyes:

Fine, replace "all the time" with something like "with significantly more regularity than any time since then".

Fights were part of the game. Most teams had an enforcer. And it was well known that the enforcers job was to throw punches when deemed necessary to protect a star player or to send a message.

It's part of the reason why the NBA wasn't nearly as popular as the other major sports in the '70s. In fact, Washington's punch helped to change the direction of the NBA, as they immediately started to clamp down on fighting after that punch

 
I don't want to defend Washington, he's said the incident has haunted him ever since and clearly regrets it.

Having said... that was a total heat of the moment reaction.  Nowhere near the unprovoked, premeditated stuff elsewhere in the thread.

 
Mike Damone said:
The kid made a bad mistake. Hopefully it’s a good life learning lesson for him and he finds help
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Yeah, it's called prison.  There's not much help for people who do that unfortunately.  

I will bet any amount of money that kid is in prison for something else within the next 5 years.

 
In all honesty, I am amazed players are not arrested for assault for a lot of the things that happen in sports.  The league doesn't even need to have anything to do with it.  Legit assaults are caught on camera. Arrest the guys. Simple as that.  Drag them right off the field/court/ice in cuffs.  

But for some reason, it never happens, cause well, it's SPORTS.

But hey, ban them for a year for weed.  

 
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Dinsy Ejotuz said:
I don't want to defend Washington, he's said the incident has haunted him ever since and clearly regrets it.

Having said... that was a total heat of the moment reaction.  Nowhere near the unprovoked, premeditated stuff elsewhere in the thread.
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I even referenced Kermit in the original thread on this incident, and it was a cheap shot, but it pales in comparison to the majority of the other instances in here. There was already an altercation taking place on the court and he thought it was about to be escalated by Rudy. 

 
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Epic Problem said:
That play likely derailed a dynasty. McMahon's now lost for the season and that opened up the door for all of the Doug Flutie based inner fighting crap and it was all downhill from there.  

Not feeling all that bad that he died at 45 from kidney failure. 
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the rover said:
Rudy T went to a crosstown high school, and my brother used to play against him.   He was a dirty player and got in numerous fights prior to this at every level.   He had it coming.
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Not sure these comments are any better than the incidents they are referring to.  

 
[scooter] said:
:rolleyes:

Fine, replace "all the time" with something like "with significantly more regularity than any time since then".

Fights were part of the game. Most teams had an enforcer. And it was well known that the enforcers job was to throw punches when deemed necessary to protect a star player or to send a message.

It's part of the reason why the NBA wasn't nearly as popular as the other major sports in the '70s. In fact, Washington's punch helped to change the direction of the NBA, as they immediately started to clamp down on fighting after that punch
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So Washington's punch was both routine and transformational.

 
Tom Skerritt said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fitchburg-state-basketball-player-kicked-off-campus-for-dirty-shot-to-opponents-head/

Cannot imagine what goes through someone's mind to think this is a good idea.
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No schtick, watched the whole game as it is archived on their website.  He was emotional the whole game, but that play came directly after he was upset Tenaglia wasn't called for a foul on Platt's three point attempt at the other end.  

Platt was inadvertently hit in the jaw earlier in the first half, but it was by a taller black player, not a 5'9" white player.

 
There was an old NFL hit where the player was hit/tackled and on their knees when someone else comes in and blasts the guy. I thought it was Gifford getting hit but all I can find is the Bednarik hit on Gifford, which wasn’t what I’m thinking of. 

 
Luke Witte's demolishing.  

Corky Taylor. Ohio State's Luke Witte hard on a breakaway before Minnesota's Taylor went to help him up to his feet. Except he didn't. Instead he gave Witte a nice knee to the groin. Police escorted players off the court, but not before another Gophers player stomped on a defenseless Witte's head. Minnesota's Dave Winfield also threw some punches, knocking out an OSU player. Witte had to spend the night in a ICU unit, and two other players joined him at the hospital.

Ron Behagen was the POS that stomped on his head.  

 
I’ll see if I can find more info as I doubt a video exits but Rod Smith (the wide receiver for the Broncos) had his knee blown out in college on a fair catch and the culprit admitted it was on purpose.

 
Epic Problem said:
Claude Lemeiux / Kris Draper
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Not even close to the dirtiest, but the best thing about that hit (for lack of a better phrase) is that it resulted in the best rivalry I have seen in sports since I've been watching them.  Many rivalries come out because of geography, competitive reasons, or because two teams just happen to play in the same division, but those teams, the Avs and Red Wings, absolutely hated each other. And it was awesome to watch. 

 
He does that out on the street it's a crime called assault.  What he did in the game is a crime called assault.

 
Another old one that I was thinking of was the hit on Johnny Bright. The photographs of it won the Pulitzer Prize for Photography back then.  It is considered a racially-motivated assault on a black QB.

Link

 
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