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Disruptive technologies for the future (1 Viewer)

that almunimum glue that people use to patch up gutters and row boats looks like kind of a big deal take that to the bank brohans

 
Walking Boot said:
1) Driverless on highways only... a person behind the wheel can operate their Uber-car, sure, but how does Uber get the car to them at the start without their network of human drivers? What's really different in this world? Not much. It's a driverless car but you have to carry an extra driver? Seems impractical.
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One thought on driverless vehicles only on highways relates to the way that we deal with multiple trailers on interstate highways. States like OH allow for three shorter or two full size trailer on roads like the OH Turnpike. At exists, there are parking areas for drivers to drop off the extra vehicles if they are leaving the highway, and cannot take the extra trailers. This would work on highways for driverless vehicles as well, requiring the vehicles to stop at a certain point leaving their cargo to be transfered to a 'local' truck, which could handle the deliveries from there.

I would love a driverless vehicle. I am medically unable to drive due to seizures, so being independent with a driverless car would be wonderful.

 
The Z Machine said:
Google has invested massively in driverless cars, and Tesla isn't far behind.
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I think all of the major car companies will be in. I belive the government has allocation 4 billion to promoting this tech, which tells me that when it comes to liability issues, the govt may throw some weight to limiting that side of the risk.

 
Rove! said:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-18/rise-of-the-robots-will-eliminate-more-than-5-million-jobs

Robots to eliminate 5 million jobs by 2020

How do we prepare, economically, for that kind of transition?
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continue to transition to higher paying, white collar jobs...efficiencies gained from outsourcing manufacturing to third world countries has been a boon for those with skilled degrees...robots would have a similar effect, though the overall impact is debatable.

 
Rove! said:
The Z Machine said:
Google has invested massively in driverless cars, and Tesla isn't far behind.
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I think all of the major car companies will be in. I belive the government has allocation 4 billion to promoting this tech, which tells me that when it comes to liability issues, the govt may throw some weight to limiting that side of the risk.
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The overall liability with driverless car environments is less than what it is now with human error, self driven cars. Liability is a non issue in the long run...which is one of the drivers...reduce risk/liability.

As I've stated previously in this thread...it's just a matter of time.

This is easily the biggest impact of any technology mentioned in this thread.

 
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TripItUp said:
Rove! said:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-18/rise-of-the-robots-will-eliminate-more-than-5-million-jobs

Robots to eliminate 5 million jobs by 2020

How do we prepare, economically, for that kind of transition?
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continue to transition to higher paying, white collar jobs...efficiencies gained from outsourcing manufacturing to third world countries has been a boon for those with skilled degrees...robots would have a similar effect, though the overall impact is debatable.
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Therein lies the challenge. As a population you want to decrease the number of unskilled workers in your workforce and increase the percentage of skilled workers. The other aspect is that those 5 million unskilled jobs will be replaced by a number significantly less than 5 m skilled jobs in a static state; so growth is important.

 
TripItUp said:
Rove! said:
The Z Machine said:
Google has invested massively in driverless cars, and Tesla isn't far behind.
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I think all of the major car companies will be in. I belive the government has allocation 4 billion to promoting this tech, which tells me that when it comes to liability issues, the govt may throw some weight to limiting that side of the risk.
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The overall liability with driverless car environments is less than what it is now with human error, self driven cars. Liability is a non issue in the long run...which is one of the drivers...reduce risk/liability.

As I've stated previously in this thread...it's just a matter of time.

This is easily the biggest impact of any technology mentioned in this thread.
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The impact on the trucking industry will be immense. Truckers will become a thing of the past, as will many supporting jobs such at truck stops, motels, etc.
 
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The major transition will be from unskilled -> skilled. There will still be a need for plumbers, electricians, auto mechanics, HVAC repair people, building framers, CNC programmers, etc. There are many trade jobs that won't be replaced by robots or automation any time soon. Maybe in 40 years as the automation becomes more ubiquitous and cheaper, but certainly not in the next decade or two IMO.

However, unskilled jobs that take little training will be replaced. I could retail workers on many levels being replaced by robots. Why do I need someone to help me check out at Old Navy? I can scan tags, or an automated robot can process those purchases just as easily

Not all jobs are white collar and need formal education in liberal arts or sciences. You don't need multiple university level physics classes to understand what tool to select for the milling of the stainless steel medical component. You don't need to be able to calculate chip load and tool wear factor in order to do basic CNC programming. But you do need to know how to do arithmetic and use geometry.

 
TripItUp said:
Rove! said:
The Z Machine said:
Google has invested massively in driverless cars, and Tesla isn't far behind.
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I think all of the major car companies will be in. I belive the government has allocation 4 billion to promoting this tech, which tells me that when it comes to liability issues, the govt may throw some weight to limiting that side of the risk.
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The overall liability with driverless car environments is less than what it is now with human error, self driven cars. Liability is a non issue in the long run...which is one of the drivers...reduce risk/liability.

As I've stated previously in this thread...it's just a matter of time.

This is easily the biggest impact of any technology mentioned in this thread.
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I'm amazed at how quickly it is happening and that the move to fully autonomous cars (passenger has no control of the vehicle) is the direction we're heading right from the beginning.

I believe car safety can be greatly improved since the interior of cars can be designed solely for the safety of the occupants - sort of like mini buses that look like this.

 
The Z Machine said:
However, unskilled jobs that take little training will be replaced. I could retail workers on many levels being replaced by robots. Why do I need someone to help me check out at Old Navy? I can scan tags, or an automated robot can process those purchases just as easily
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Why would you go to a store at all. Get measured/scanned, submit your data to the online shop and see yourself in the clothes item chosen, in the size that best fits you in 3D/holographic/VR. one click and get it sent to your house. Or, once manufacturing moves from large scale batch jobs to small scale individual runs, one will be created that fits you like a glove - without the need for human intervention at all.

What will stop this from being a cataclysmic society altering event is that it (like it says in my sig) will be unevenly distributed. Initially only for the rich, then only for the rich countries, then more wide spread with time.

If you love your kids, make sure they get skills that will be in demand for years to come. And you are right, that doesn't necessarily mean MBA/PhD but skill sets that are hard to automate, even with AI

 
Quez said:
I was just thinking today, after hearing a home elderly care commercial, how robots could be really useful in a similar situation.  They could be better than life alert, and allow relatives to see/communicate easier.  If they could do household task it would be really useful.
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I think the AI is going to have to come a lot farther along before robots will be ready to take over anything but rote tasks.  And I don't think AI is going to get there as fast as a lot of people seem to think it will.

 
If we ever develop a general AI, it will end mental labor.  Almost immediately.

Manual labor is done when we have graceful robots with general useful capabilities.  They'll be expensive for the first batch, but that batch will make the second batch and prices will fall off a cliff.

 
(HULK) said:
If we ever develop a general AI, it will end mental labor.  Almost immediately.

Manual labor is done when we have graceful robots with general useful capabilities.  They'll be expensive for the first batch, but that batch will make the second batch and prices will fall off a cliff.
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Robots carry out tasks automatically.  Unless we get close to a general AI, robots won't be good for general manual labor.  You'd have to specifically program one with instructions for a specific job that you want it to perform.  And then hope that it can do that job without running into too many variables that might cause it problems.

A graceful mechanical frame would be all you need if you have a human pilot, but that's not really a robot at that point.

 
 


Forget smart glasses: Samsung patents contact lenses with built-in camera that projects images directly into the eye


  • Contact lenses will include a display, camera, antenna and sensors
  • The antenna will link up to a smartphone, which processes images
  • Google also has two patents for similar smart contact lens designs
Samsung has been granted a patent for contact lenses that project images directly into the eye.

The patent, awarded in South Korea, includes a contact lens equipped with a display, a camera, an antenna, and several sensors that detect movement.

The contact lens will use the antenna to link up to a smartphone, which processes the image sent into the eyes.


Meanwhile, the sensors will be used to control the images using movements such as blinks.

The lens can then send images onto the wearer's eye and record their surroundings.

If Samsung can make it a reality, the 'smart' contact lenses could prove tough competition for products such as Google Glasses.

SamMobile, who first spotted the patent, claims the 'lenses can provide a more natural way to provide augmented reality than smart glasses.'

Google also has two patents for smart contact lenses, which may be closer to reality.

In 2014, it signed a deal with health giant Novartis to produce its ground-breaking smart contact lenses.


The two said they would produce the first glucose monitoring lens for diabetics and one to treat farsightedness, it was announced.

However, the firm hinted at 'other uses' for the technology with patent of a lens that includes a built in camera.

According to PatentBolt, the system could even be used to help the blind see.


'For example, a blind person wearing Google's contact lens with a built-in camera may be walking on a sidewalk and approaching an intersection,' it says.

'The analysis component of the contact lens can process the raw image data of the camera to determine processed image data indicating that the blind person is approaching intersection with a crosswalk and establish that there is a car approaching the intersection.'

Like Samsung, the lens also has wireless capabilities allowing it to link to a smartphone, which can be used to process data and give the user audio commands.


Alphabet also filed a patent for a contact lens that could potentially gather data about the wearer’s environment.

According to the patent, the device could sense allergens such as grass or tree pollen while 'photo detector sensors and solar cells' that would act like solar panels to power the device.

Samsung applied for its smart contacts patent in two year ago, at the same time that Google received patents for its smart contact lenses.

The company has yet to respond to DailyMail.com on if and when a consumer product will be released.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3526514/Forget-smart-glasses-Samsung-patents-contact-lenses-built-camera-projects-images-directly-eye.html#ixzz455drH4jX




 
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Rove! said:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/paralyzed-man-moves-fingers-plays-guitar-hero-with-brain-implant-milestone/

the ways we are discovering to interface directly with the brain are amazing 
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If someone has a heart attack and their body stops functioning, maybe they could just pull the living brain out of your body and stick it in a jar.  Then they can clone a new body for that person and signals are sent back and forth from the original brain to the new body.  They also couldn't die because if somehow that body was killed, the brain would be safe in the jar.  They'd just make a new body.  In theory you could stay young and healthy you're entire life that way.  You could clone yourself an 18 year old body and use that until it starts losing its hair or getting fat, then throw it away and get a fresh copy.  Never have to diet.  Could do as much drugs as you wanted.

 
I've reaching the point where I believe nearly everything we can imagine can be accomplished.  The pace of technology is accelerating at and astounding rate.

 
The first 3D printed concrete bridge installed in the Netherlands.

link

ETA: The concrete bridge is said to be using less concrete, much less waste in the process and obviously customisable

 
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Another 3D printed bridge, made of steel, is expected ready and installed in Amsterdam duing 2018 

Video

 
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Perhaps the internal combustion engine isn't dead yet.  This seems to be incredibly promising - article.

A German startup is developing a potential replacement for spark plugs: microwave pulse ignition.

The tech is under development by MWI Micro Wave Ignition AG of Empfingen, Germany, which claims that its ignition system can be used in both gasoline and diesel engines, reducing fuel consumption by as much as 30 percent. Additionally, lower combustion temperatures are said to reduce nitrous oxide emissions—normally caused by high combustion temperatures—by as much as 80 percent. MWI even says that engines don't need to be redesigned to accommodate the technology, which can be retrofitted to existing production engines.

Backers of the company include a group of stakeholders led by former Porsche CEO Wendelin Wiedeking, credited with saving the automaker in the 1990s.

"I am convinced that MWI is a disruptive innovation with a huge market potential," says Wiedeking of the technology.

MWI has begun to discuss the use of its ignition system in mass-produced vehicles with Chinese and Korean automakers, according to Bloomberg. One of these companies could be Hyundai, which is pursuing a lofty 50 percent thermal efficiency target from its internal combustion engines under a program called SmartStream. The Drive contacted Hyundai and MWI to inquire as to whether the two are in touch, and we will update when we receive comment.
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Resurrecting this a bit.  I'm pretty excited about the potential for tidal generators.. Lots of power capability and we have lots of areas in the world with strong currents.  Massive capability here.

This company looks to start mass producing them.  

 
Rove! said:
the corporate windfall will translate into (edit)
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...more profits.

The amount of power a handful of corporations already have is staggering.  That seems to be only going in one direction over time as well.

Collecting and selling personal data is the biggest game-changer in this thread.  The cash earned through its sale is then continuously used to buy out competitors and newer companies in emerging markets.

 
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