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***Divisional Round Game Thread*** Baltimore at Pittsburgh (1 Viewer)

The_Man said:
bryhamm said:
The_Man said:
ravens lost the game by handing the ball over 3 times in the 3rd quarter inside the 20. total disaster

Flacco wasn't that bad. Boldin dropped one TD, Housh dropped a perfect 4th and 19 conversion in his chest.

Steelers should pray for the Jets to win. They would beat them by 20+. But they would lose to the Pats by 20
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16/30 for 125 yds, with 1 TD and 1 INT is not that good.
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Right. But 18 for 30 or 155 yards, 2 TDs and 1 INT isn't that bad vs. the Steelers. Which are what Flacco's numbers would be if Boldin hadn't dropped the TD and Housh hadn't dropped the 4th down catch.Can anyone point me to an example of a Defensive Tackle ever being called for holding on a goal line play in the history of the NFL? I'll hang up and listen. Thanks.
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Regarding the first paragraph, that would have bumped his rating up to 81.9. A bit better. You are right.Regarding the 2nd paragraph, I would try NFL.com. Pretty sure it has happened before.

 
bryhamm said:
Chaz McNulty said:
bryhamm said:
The_Man said:
ravens lost the game by handing the ball over 3 times in the 3rd quarter inside the 20. total disaster

Flacco wasn't that bad. Boldin dropped one TD, Housh dropped a perfect 4th and 19 conversion in his chest.

Steelers should pray for the Jets to win. They would beat them by 20+. But they would lose to the Pats by 20
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16/30 for 125 yds, with 1 TD and 1 INT is not that good.
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Do you think that was a holding penalty on the TD return? Do you think an offensive linemen holding penalty was warranted on 2nd and goal?I doubt we will see you answer these questions, but I'm sure we will see this :lmao: icon.
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Yes, both were holding penalties. And I'm sure there were a ton more holding penalties on both teams that were never called. It happens. Doesn't mean that when it is called it never happened. James Harrison is held quite a bit when he speed rushes around the corner and it is not called all the time. Frustrates me when I see it and it isn't called, but it's the nature of the game. They could probably call a holding penalty on every play.Glad I could make a post without a smilie and disappoint you. The smilies were perfect responses to fishing posts.
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Thanks for the honest answer. I believe that both of them were completely blown calls. On the punt return the blocker had his hands inside the opponents arms and was driving him back. I really don't know what the ref was thinking.
 
Been too busy to be in the thread during the game. Did the Seahawks fans convert to Ravens fans? Or is thinking the refs conspire to favor the Steelers a requirement to root for any team with a bird mascot?

 
Chaz McNulty said:
HellToupee said:
Chaz McNulty said:
bryhamm said:
The_Man said:
ravens lost the game by handing the ball over 3 times in the 3rd quarter inside the 20. total disaster

Flacco wasn't that bad. Boldin dropped one TD, Housh dropped a perfect 4th and 19 conversion in his chest.

Steelers should pray for the Jets to win. They would beat them by 20+. But they would lose to the Pats by 20
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16/30 for 125 yds, with 1 TD and 1 INT is not that good.
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Do you think that was a holding penalty on the TD return? Do you think an offensive linemen holding penalty was warranted on 2nd and goal?I doubt we will see you answer these questions, but I'm sure we will see this :lmao: icon.
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the hold on the return was clear
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Someone needs to post that, because if that's a hold then just about every play is a hold.
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That was an easy hold call.It'll be linked up eventually.

But not right now, dont wanna spoil the atmosphere.

 
steelerfeever said:
Huge Steelers fan obviously, but I like to think I can remain rationale when analyzing when the Steelers play. This game was not about officiating, it was about big plays. Steelers were up 7-0, had the Ravens 3rd and very long, and our nickle gets called for PI for not turning around to defend the ball. Huge play. There was the fumble that everyone thought was an incompletion and ended up being a defensive TD. Even bigger play. There was Ryan Clark causing Rice to fumble then picking Flacco off... Two mammoth plays and he gets my MVP today. The punt return for a TD, say what you will about the guy flopping at the end, he did, but before the flop he actually was being held. I say that was a good call. The blocker's left arm was outside the shoulder, and the ref that threw the flag saw it. The endzone camera replays don't show it clearly. The 3rd and 19 bomb with 2 minutes left was another big play. Steelers just made more big plays.

Can't blame the refs. Steelers had more penalties called against them for more yards. Terrell Suggs was an animal. Polamaulo played like crap. Flacco played really well contrary to most other posts I've read. He made one bad throw to Heap early in the 3rd that was picked. But his receivers dropped a few balls and his line was getting blown up. That's not on him.

Steelers will be 7 point dogs next week in New England. We have a shot, but Brady owns our secondary and will dink and dunk all day long. All we need is a chip and a chair though...
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Hush, don't ruin their delusion.

 
treat88 said:
Chaz McNulty said:
Is there a way off telling which referee through the flags? I would be interested to see if the same official through the flags on the punt return TD, the offensive linemen holding, and the defensive holding when Pittsbug was 3rd and 20.
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Probably the same ref that let Brown behind a cover 4 D to make an amazing catch right?You want to cry about something legit, cry about Webb looking into the backfield as Brown blew past him.
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No. I think it was that ref that was throwing the flag for defensive holding on that exact same play. Even if Pittsburg wouldn't have connected on that play it would have been a first down
 
9-93 against Pitt

6-74 against Balt

People are going to blame the zebras instead of Flacco, Rice, and the Balt secondary? Delusional.

 
Seriously. The refs were horrible, but uniformly so. This game was a tale of two halves. Baltimore won the first. Steelers won the second. Great defenses. Great game. Let's not diminish things.

 
So this happens whenever the Steelers win a big game?

I'm numb to it by now...

The officials were way too involved on both sides, but to make it seem like the Steelers were handed anything is absurd.

But there's no changing some people's method of thinking, so have at it.

Flacco choked so hard it wasn't even funny. In fact the choke meter for the Ravens was off the charts (Boldin, Shoe-Bomber)...

Steeler defense played absoute lights out.

Suggs is a beast....can't wait to hear Ray-Ray's post game comments about his QB.

 
Chaz McNulty said:
bryhamm said:
Chaz McNulty said:
bryhamm said:
The_Man said:
ravens lost the game by handing the ball over 3 times in the 3rd quarter inside the 20. total disaster

Flacco wasn't that bad. Boldin dropped one TD, Housh dropped a perfect 4th and 19 conversion in his chest.

Steelers should pray for the Jets to win. They would beat them by 20+. But they would lose to the Pats by 20
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16/30 for 125 yds, with 1 TD and 1 INT is not that good.
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Do you think that was a holding penalty on the TD return? Do you think an offensive linemen holding penalty was warranted on 2nd and goal?I doubt we will see you answer these questions, but I'm sure we will see this :lmao: icon.
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Yes, both were holding penalties. And I'm sure there were a ton more holding penalties on both teams that were never called. It happens. Doesn't mean that when it is called it never happened. James Harrison is held quite a bit when he speed rushes around the corner and it is not called all the time. Frustrates me when I see it and it isn't called, but it's the nature of the game. They could probably call a holding penalty on every play.Glad I could make a post without a smilie and disappoint you. The smilies were perfect responses to fishing posts.
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Thanks for the honest answer. I believe that both of them were completely blown calls. On the punt return the blocker had his hands inside the opponents arms and was driving him back. I really don't know what the ref was thinking.
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I agree with you, but I think the PIT player tried to turn to make an attempted tackle but couldn't because he was being held. When that happened, I agree that he did flop. But the holding was before the flop.

Not sure if the ref saw the actual holding and was making the call based on that, or if it was from the flop. It seemed when they did the replay from the end zone angle that the ref was throwing the flag before he flopped, which would indicate that he saw the actual holding.

 
Idiot Boxer said:
Seriously. The refs were horrible, but uniformly so. This game was a tale of two halves. Baltimore won the first. Steelers won the second. Great defenses. Great game. Let's not diminish things.
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:thumbdown: The refs were not uniformly horrible. When pitt got called they were legit penalties, even the most diehard pitt fan knows baltimore had phantom calls against them.Pitt could have still won in a fairly called game, but we'll never know now.
 
Stillers Jr. said:
So this happens whenever the Steelers win a big game?I'm numb to it by now...The officials were way too involved on both sides, but to make it seem like the Steelers were handed anything is absurd.But there's no changing some people's method of thinking, so have at it.Flacco choked so hard it wasn't even funny. In fact the choke meter for the Ravens was off the charts (Boldin, Shoe-Bomber)...Steeler defense played absoute lights out.Suggs is a beast....can't wait to hear Ray-Ray's post game comments about his QB.
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Personally, I thought Flacco was the QB he's been for the past 3 years. He's adequate, but not a guy who can consistently come up with the big play.That said, this game is on Boldin and Housyourmama. Inexcusable drops at crucial times.
 
moderated said:
Idiot Boxer said:
Seriously. The refs were horrible, but uniformly so. This game was a tale of two halves. Baltimore won the first. Steelers won the second. Great defenses. Great game. Let's not diminish things.
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:thumbdown: The refs were not uniformly horrible. When pitt got called they were legit penalties, even the most diehard pitt fan knows baltimore had phantom calls against them.Pitt could have still won in a fairly called game, but we'll never know now.
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List some examples...I want to know what is classified as "phantom"
 
moderated said:
Idiot Boxer said:
Seriously. The refs were horrible, but uniformly so. This game was a tale of two halves. Baltimore won the first. Steelers won the second. Great defenses. Great game. Let's not diminish things.
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:thumbdown: The refs were not uniformly horrible. When pitt got called they were legit penalties, even the most diehard pitt fan knows baltimore had phantom calls against them.

Pitt could have still won in a fairly called game, but we'll never know now.
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:) What color is the sky in your world?

 
Chaz McNulty said:
bryhamm said:
Chaz McNulty said:
bryhamm said:
The_Man said:
ravens lost the game by handing the ball over 3 times in the 3rd quarter inside the 20. total disaster

Flacco wasn't that bad. Boldin dropped one TD, Housh dropped a perfect 4th and 19 conversion in his chest.

Steelers should pray for the Jets to win. They would beat them by 20+. But they would lose to the Pats by 20
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16/30 for 125 yds, with 1 TD and 1 INT is not that good.
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Do you think that was a holding penalty on the TD return? Do you think an offensive linemen holding penalty was warranted on 2nd and goal?I doubt we will see you answer these questions, but I'm sure we will see this :thumbdown: icon.
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Yes, both were holding penalties. And I'm sure there were a ton more holding penalties on both teams that were never called. It happens. Doesn't mean that when it is called it never happened. James Harrison is held quite a bit when he speed rushes around the corner and it is not called all the time. Frustrates me when I see it and it isn't called, but it's the nature of the game. They could probably call a holding penalty on every play.Glad I could make a post without a smilie and disappoint you. The smilies were perfect responses to fishing posts.
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Thanks for the honest answer. I believe that both of them were completely blown calls. On the punt return the blocker had his hands inside the opponents arms and was driving him back. I really don't know what the ref was thinking.
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he was holding McFadden's left outside should pad with his right hand while holding his right inside sp with his left hand
 
Why all the whining about the defensive holding call at the end?Whether Pittsburgh scores a TD or a FG there, the fact is that Baltimore couldn't make a single first down afterward despite having plenty of time to score. So it didn't affect the outcome either way

 
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Go deep said:
Choke said:
Go deep said:
bryhamm said:
Premier said:
Instead of whining about the refs, Ravens fans should be upset about the 50-yard completion on third down with 2.5 minutes to go.

Maybe I'm crazy, but that was the bigger deal.
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Doesnt matter, the steelers were going to be handed a first down there even if the Ravens did stop them.
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You better learn to get over it. H8ers gonna H8.
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Im over it, i dont care who wins, im a Bills fan. I just hate seeing refs giving games away. Only Steelers fans will not see it that way.
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Ravens Penalties (Number-Yards) 6 - 74

Steelers Penalties (Number-Yards) 9 - 93

 
AB in DC said:
Why all the whining about the defensive holding call at the end?Whether Pittsburgh scores a TD or a FG there, the fact is that Baltimore couldn't make a single first down afterward despite having plenty of time to score. So it didn't affect the outcome either way
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Some people bet on the game getting 3.5 on baltimore. A fg vs td means ALL the difference.
 
Chaz McNulty said:
On the punt return the blocker had his hands inside the opponents arms and was driving him back. I really don't know what the ref was thinking.
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For the record Chaz, what you posted is completely wrong on this point. Ill post up pictures later.
 
What a comeback! and I love Doushmanzedah being the goat. He's been a whiny tool for years. Enjoy your offseason, TJ. :lol:

And lol at the :yes: folks in here. I know a lot of you are just fishing, but the ones who are serious.... :pickle: :lmao:

 
AB in DC said:
Why all the whining about the defensive holding call at the end?Whether Pittsburgh scores a TD or a FG there, the fact is that Baltimore couldn't make a single first down afterward despite having plenty of time to score. So it didn't affect the outcome either way
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:yes: It was questionable to throw it in that spot, and I think the flagrant no holding call on Pitt on the same play was worse, but big deal, the game didn't come down to that play. As others have said the zebras were all over the map in tis game and really didnt favor one team over another.Ballot fans should focus their ire at he poor play calling on that last drive along with Housh's drop. Told my Pitt buddy I watched the game with that Flacco could not win a big game if it came down to him having to make a play and I was kinda right even though he made that great pass on fourth. Good win for Pitt. Congrats. Hopefully they come to NE next week and we can all look forward to a game between two pro teams that won't be preceded by a week of nonsense BS trash talk. :pickle:
 
Poll: do you think the refs jobbed baltimore?

Results

No way, they won fair and square: 20 or so posters ITT w/ Steelers avatars

Yes, it was an absolute travesty: Everybody else

 
Ok, seriously, how did the refs hand the game to Pittsburgh? I want a clear, detailed, play-by-play account of exactly what they did to cost Baltimore the game.

Some of the people on this forum blow my mind.

 
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IT seems NFL fand and steelers fans were watching a different game . not surprising .

I would never expect a steelers fan to come out and say yes we had favourable calls that helped us get the W. That would just be politically incorrect

 
jojoh07 said:
IT seems NFL fand and steelers fans were watching a different game . not surprising .I would never expect a steelers fan to come out and say yes we had favourable calls that helped us get the W. That would just be politically incorrect
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You're an Eagles fan, so your opinion holds no weight. Anyone else?
 
Seriously?

The refs didn't cause ray rice to fumble any more than they made Ramon foster brainfart and fail to fall on a loose ball? They didn't intercept flacco any more than they did make mendenhall fumble. They certainly didn't botch the center exchange with Birk and they didn't give up a 3rd and 19 to brown.

I hate the fact that certain people are pointing to refs in this game. Especially in light of the top notch ravens fans in this thread. It brings those good guys down by association. Damn. Both teams made some plays. Both teams made some mistakes. In the end, the steelers made more plays and fewer mistakes.

 
jojoh07 said:
IT seems NFL fand and steelers fans were watching a different game . not surprising .I would never expect a steelers fan to come out and say yes we had favourable calls that helped us get the W. That would just be politically incorrect
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Would it make you feel better if it happened?Seriously, what do you want?The Ravens had 28 yards of offense in the 2nd half. Let me say it again....28 freakin yards!Do you think the refs did that?Do you?It's like clockwork. Steeler big win = ####-knockers coming out of the wood work to chime in about conspiracy.
 
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I think most of the crying in this thread is fishing, which is typical around here and actually kinda fun.

But I really do have a hard time figuring out why anyone who believes the games are fixed by some NFL conspiracy would continue to be a football fan.

 
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Do any of the conspiracy theorists believe that Suggs should've been called for a blow to the head where he forced Ben to fumble, resulting in the TD? Because he used BOTH hands in the process of making the hit to smack Ben in the helmet, which I could've sworn was illegal. The Ravens fans I watched the game with agreed and said they were lucky the penalty wasn't called.

Just like it was 2 plays before that when Suggs dove at Ben's knees in the process of trying to make a sack, which I've seen called many, many times ever since Tom Brady was knocked out a couple years ago.

People see what they want to see, and that's cool. If the Steelers had lost, I wonder how many Steelers fans or anyone else would've pointed to all the missed holding calls on James Harrison... not that the Ravens' offense could do much anyways.

There were tons of missed calls on both sides... I know the Steelers got some good calls, but so did the Ravens, as well as some lucky non-calls.

Doesn't diminish the awesome win I just watched, that's for sure.

 
Steelers4Life said:
Do any of the conspiracy theorists believe that Suggs should've been called for a blow to the head where he forced Ben to fumble, resulting in the TD? Because he used BOTH hands in the process of making the hit to smack Ben in the helmet, which I could've sworn was illegal. The Ravens fans I watched the game with agreed and said they were lucky the penalty wasn't called.

Just like it was 2 plays before that when Suggs dove at Ben's knees in the process of trying to make a sack, which I've seen called many, many times ever since Tom Brady was knocked out a couple years ago.

People see what they want to see, and that's cool. If the Steelers had lost, I wonder how many Steelers fans or anyone else would've pointed to all the missed holding calls on James Harrison... not that the Ravens' offense could do much anyways.

There were tons of missed calls on both sides... I know the Steelers got some good calls, but so did the Ravens, as well as some lucky non-calls.

Doesn't diminish the awesome win I just watched, that's for sure.
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Lots of missed holding calls on the wings vs. Harrison and Woodley.

 
One thing is for sure...if it was Balt was @Atl (not Pitt) and Pitt was hosting GB instead, then both of these teams would have lost by double digits.

 
I said 7 point win, so let it be written, so let it be.done. Ben owns the Ratbirds, Flacco is a turd, and so is Dooooshmanzadah

 
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