DJax to Denver (1 Viewer)

[kerpow]

Hope its not too much of a :honda: (another thread about him being cut by the 9ers circulated last month)

Official now:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3350198

What is the Shark Pools thoughts on this? With Marshall's off season injury and consequent criticism by Cutler, could Jackson make an impact here and have a 1000yd season?

Injury concerns?

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

I doubt it. Jackson is done like a Thanksgiving turkey. He might have a good game or two left in him though.

 

[saintfool]

i think he might be a great value play. marshall is emerging. stokely is better suited as a #3. Jax - if healthy - could be a bargain in that offense.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I think the team is becoming Fustrated w/ Marshall's behavior... Not saying DJax is capable of knocking him out of the WR1, but signing these WRs is a sign.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Denver Wr's:

Marshall

Stokley

Sammie Parker

Keary Colbert

Darrel Jackson

He's better talent wise than everyone except marshall. If healthy, he'll start with Stokley being the Slot

 

[Stinkin Ref]

as a KC fan I am always amazed how quickly Denver jumps on things like this.....and get extremely disappointed when the Chiefs let another have way decent WR go buy without making a play for them....when I first heard he was released I was hoping KC would make a move and show a pulse when it comes to addressing their need for a decent WR2....but yet another one goes bye....I know he is not a world beater anymore, but the Chiefs have NOTHING after Bowe.....good move for Denver, not sure what fantasy impact he will have but good move for depth and keeping him off somebody else's team that might need him, like the ...........nevermind

 

[Bob Henry]

Jackson's last 1000 yard season was 2004, right? I wouldn't bank too heavily on him holding any serious value at this point. If I'm not mistaken, he has a bum knee and those don't just go away or get better.

 

[Banger]

I think the team is becoming Fustrated w/ Marshall's behavior... Not saying DJax is capable of knocking him out of the WR1, but signing these WRs is a sign.

It's a sign that they need a #2 because it sure ain't Stokely. As long as Marshall is there he's the #1 by far no doubt about it.

 

[greenf7cat]

as a KC fan I am always amazed how quickly Denver jumps on things like this.....and get extremely disappointed when the Chiefs let another have way decent WR go buy without making a play for them....when I first heard he was released I was hoping KC would make a move and show a pulse when it comes to addressing their need for a decent WR2....but yet another one goes bye....I know he is not a world beater anymore, but the Chiefs have NOTHING after Bowe.....good move for Denver, not sure what fantasy impact he will have but good move for depth and keeping him off somebody else's team that might need him, like the ...........nevermind

Also as a KC Fan, I am right there with you on this... I was thinking the same thoughts when SF release him... Would it really have hurt if KC gave him a 1 year deal????? unbelievable how Carl Peterson is still the GM!!

 

[Jeff19658]

I think the team is becoming Fustrated w/ Marshall's behavior... Not saying DJax is capable of knocking him out of the WR1, but signing these WRs is a sign.

This has nothing to do with Marshall and everything to do with trying to find a decent #2 receiver as a bargain after Walker not working out. Bringing in Jackson, Parker and Colbert are in no way close to being a legit #1 WR that Marshall is. I do agree that Denver is getting frustrated a bit, but if Denver was looking to replace Marshall, it would be in a trade or taking a WR early in the draft which I could see them doing if the O line players they are hoping fall to them don’t fall. And even then if they do decide to draft a top WR or trade for one, still not convinced it is to replace Marshall other than trying to get a solid #2 and if Marshall does indeed mess this up they will have an option to work with.

 

[kerpow]

Jackson's last 1000 yard season was 2004, right?

Yes, but 63.956/10 in 2006 was pretty good. No one put up decent #s in San Fran last year.

 

[Bob Henry]

Jackson's last 1000 yard season was 2004, right?

Yes, but 63.956/10 in 2006 was pretty good. No one put up decent #s in San Fran last year.

Yeh, I went back and looked it up as well. 2006 was good considering he did that in 13 games. The other side of that coin was that he did that in the first 13 games and missed the last three due to injury. Since that injury, he's been sporadic at best. I agree with your point on the 49ers. That offense stunk last year and no WR had anything good to offer fantasy owners. Jackson had some decent #s when Shaun Hill as the QB.I've always liked Jackson as a player. He was productive for a good stretch (2001-2004). I'm concerned that he's played 34 games in the last three years (48 games) and since week 13 of 2006 he really hasn't done much at all. The jury is out, I know, and Denver is definitely a better situation than SF was.. he also has little to no competition from Samie Parker, Keary Colbert and Brandon Stokley (who is made for the slot). If he's healthy, he should be productive. I just don't trust his knee(s).

 

[KoolKat]

Easily the best move the Broncos have made this offseason..Jackson is not the explosive weapon he once was, but he provides us with a viable WR2 for Cutler..This will also allow Brandon "the slot machine" Stokley to return to WR3. I love this move for Denver.

 

[BoltBacker]

Jackson's last 1000 yard season was 2004, right?

Yes, but 63.956/10 in 2006 was pretty good. No one put up decent #s in San Fran last year.

Yeh, I went back and looked it up as well. 2006 was good considering he did that in 13 games. The other side of that coin was that he did that in the first 13 games and missed the last three due to injury. Since that injury, he's been sporadic at best. I agree with your point on the 49ers. That offense stunk last year and no WR had anything good to offer fantasy owners. Jackson had some decent #s when Shaun Hill as the QB.I've always liked Jackson as a player. He was productive for a good stretch (2001-2004). I'm concerned that he's played 34 games in the last three years (48 games) and since week 13 of 2006 he really hasn't done much at all. The jury is out, I know, and Denver is definitely a better situation than SF was.. he also has little to no competition from Samie Parker, Keary Colbert and Brandon Stokley (who is made for the slot). If he's healthy, he should be productive. I just don't trust his knee(s).

Even when he was in his "prime" in 2001-2004 wasn't he known most for getting concussed and dropping the ball?

 

[tex]

Obviously he passed the physical or Denver wouldn't have signed him. He will be a very nice addition as WR2 on this team. As long as his knee holds up, he'll have some nice value.

 

[Young 8]

Obviously he passed the physical or Denver wouldn't have signed him. He will be a very nice addition as WR2 on this team. As long as his knee holds up, he'll have some nice value.

he passed the physical in San Fran last year too..........................

 

[Bob Henry]

Jackson's last 1000 yard season was 2004, right?

Yes, but 63.956/10 in 2006 was pretty good. No one put up decent #s in San Fran last year.

Yeh, I went back and looked it up as well. 2006 was good considering he did that in 13 games. The other side of that coin was that he did that in the first 13 games and missed the last three due to injury. Since that injury, he's been sporadic at best. I agree with your point on the 49ers. That offense stunk last year and no WR had anything good to offer fantasy owners. Jackson had some decent #s when Shaun Hill as the QB.I've always liked Jackson as a player. He was productive for a good stretch (2001-2004). I'm concerned that he's played 34 games in the last three years (48 games) and since week 13 of 2006 he really hasn't done much at all. The jury is out, I know, and Denver is definitely a better situation than SF was.. he also has little to no competition from Samie Parker, Keary Colbert and Brandon Stokley (who is made for the slot). If he's healthy, he should be productive. I just don't trust his knee(s).

Even when he was in his "prime" in 2001-2004 wasn't he known most for getting concussed and dropping the ball?

There was a stretch where DJax had a case of the drops. I can't remember exactly when it was, but it was noticeable and out of character for him since he was a reliable WR up to that point. I think you're right on, though. He got his bell rung a couple/few times, dropped several balls over a period of 3-4 games, but I don't remember it extending too much beyond that.

 

[Kai's Hero]

I think the team is becoming Fustrated w/ Marshall's behavior... Not saying DJax is capable of knocking him out of the WR1, but signing these WRs is a sign.

If they're frustrated with Marshall just wait until they have to deal with the primadonna Jackson. This won't end well. Jackson's through making an impact in this league. The Seahawks knew it. The 49ers now, know it.

 

[KoolKat]

Obviously he passed the physical or Denver wouldn't have signed him. He will be a very nice addition as WR2 on this team. As long as his knee holds up, he'll have some nice value.

he passed the physical in San Fran last year too..........................

And he played in 15 or 16 games, what is your point? The entire 49er offense was a huge dissappointment last year. Arnaz Battle was healthy all year too, and barely outperformed D Jax. It is not the WRs fault when he's got a guy like Alex Smith throwing to him. Newsflash, situation is strongly correlated with production and Broncos O >>> 49er O.

 

[Trickster]

This is a good move, not much risk and possible great upside and impact. If he does not work out they let him go. Not a bad decision to give him a shot and see what happens.

 

[Gridiron King]

He's a good fit for Denver like Javon Walker was the last five games last year running routes and being a decoy while Marshall got 20 targets a game with one or two balls for the others. Jackson might have a good game here or there but I wouldn't count on it very often.

quote name='Trickster' date='Apr 17 2008, 10:44 AM' post='8514365']

This is a good move, not much risk and possible great upside and impact. If he does not work out they let him go. Not a bad decision to give him a shot and see what happens.

 

[switz]

I think this is a great place for DJax to line up. He's perfect for the slot there.

 

[brock]

good signing for denver but djax is not the wr he once was. marshall's offseason will drop him a little in fantasy drafts while djax might get taken too early.

 

[Smizzy]

I think the team is becoming Fustrated w/ Marshall's behavior... Not saying DJax is capable of knocking him out of the WR1, but signing these WRs is a sign.

It's a sign they're still trying to replace Walker.

 

[Young 8]

Obviously he passed the physical or Denver wouldn't have signed him. He will be a very nice addition as WR2 on this team. As long as his knee holds up, he'll have some nice value.

he passed the physical in San Fran last year too..........................

And he played in 15 or 16 games, what is your point? The entire 49er offense was a huge dissappointment last year. Arnaz Battle was healthy all year too, and barely outperformed D Jax. It is not the WRs fault when he's got a guy like Alex Smith throwing to him. Newsflash, situation is strongly correlated with production and Broncos O >>> 49er O.

my point is....if you expect 1000yds & 10td you'll be disappointed........

 

[tribecalledjeff]

I think this is a great place for DJax to line up. He's perfect for the slot there.

He won't play the slot there.

 

[broncofan13000]

I think this is a great place for DJax to line up. He's perfect for the slot there.

He'll likely be the #2 and Stokely will play the slot.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

DJax is on a team where he will compete for WR1 status, have no doubts about it. Does this board ever look at a player's body of work or have we just gotten to the point where we like to throw everyone ounder the bus who didn't live up to where we overpaid for them in redrafts...just a question really.

2000: 53/700/6 TD...those are his rookie numbers and not a lot of WR can boast those type of numbers their rookie year. Only started 10 games

2001: 70/1,080/8 TD

2002: 62/877/4 TD...started 13 games

2003: 68/1137/9 TD...played all 16 games

2004: 87/1199/7 TD

2005: Injured for most of the season and only started 6 games

2006: 63/956/10 TD...started 13 games or he would have posted his usual 1,050-1,199 yd type season. This was only his 6th season in the league too and a lot of WR get better the longer they are in the league.

2007: He had Alex Smith throwing him the ball, and I don't think the offense was geared to his style.

I do believe he has a great chance to flourish in Denver. I think if he is healthy that he can easily put up 60+ catches, 800+ yds, and 5-7TD, maybe even higher if he can get some rhythm going with Cutler. I think Cutler will look at DJax as a nice veteran WR that can get him out of some jams. Hasselbeck developed a great relationship with DJax, no reason Cutler can't do the same. Shanahan will run an offense somewhat similar to what Holmgren ran in Seattle...at least it will have a WCO feel to it for DJax which should be good. San Fran just did not work out for him.

 

[KoolKat]

Obviously he passed the physical or Denver wouldn't have signed him. He will be a very nice addition as WR2 on this team. As long as his knee holds up, he'll have some nice value.

he passed the physical in San Fran last year too..........................

And he played in 15 or 16 games, what is your point? The entire 49er offense was a huge dissappointment last year. Arnaz Battle was healthy all year too, and barely outperformed D Jax. It is not the WRs fault when he's got a guy like Alex Smith throwing to him. Newsflash, situation is strongly correlated with production and Broncos O >>> 49er O.

my point is....if you expect 1000yds & 10td you'll be disappointed........

Anyone believing that is a foolishly optimistic Broncos fan. Considering he has only had one double digit TD season in his career, I would say few if anybody, is expecting that kind of production. That being said, I would not be suprised if he put up 60 850 4-5 TD, while being a nice decoy for plays geared to Marshall. Additionally, Stokeley can now move back to the slot, which is an underestimated, beneficial effect of the Broncos getting D Jax.

 

[moleculo]

DJax is on a team where he will compete for WR1 status, have no doubts about it. Does this board ever look at a player's body of work or have we just gotten to the point where we like to throw everyone ounder the bus who didn't live up to where we overpaid for them in redrafts...just a question really.2000: 53/700/6 TD...those are his rookie numbers and not a lot of WR can boast those type of numbers their rookie year. Only started 10 games2001: 70/1,080/8 TD2002: 62/877/4 TD...started 13 games2003: 68/1137/9 TD...played all 16 games2004: 87/1199/7 TD2005: Injured for most of the season and only started 6 games2006: 63/956/10 TD...started 13 games or he would have posted his usual 1,050-1,199 yd type season. This was only his 6th season in the league too and a lot of WR get better the longer they are in the league.2007: He had Alex Smith throwing him the ball, and I don't think the offense was geared to his style. I do believe he has a great chance to flourish in Denver. I think if he is healthy that he can easily put up 60+ catches, 800+ yds, and 5-7TD, maybe even higher if he can get some rhythm going with Cutler. I think Cutler will look at DJax as a nice veteran WR that can get him out of some jams. Hasselbeck developed a great relationship with DJax, no reason Cutler can't do the same. Shanahan will run an offense somewhat similar to what Holmgren ran in Seattle...at least it will have a WCO feel to it for DJax which should be good. San Fran just did not work out for him.

this is how I see this too. As a long time DJax holder in dynasty and a Bronco fan, I'm pretty happy with this.

 

[fatness]

I think the team is becoming Fustrated w/ Marshall's behavior... Not saying DJax is capable of knocking him out of the WR1, but signing these WRs is a sign.

I think the team is recognizing that their WR#1 is injured, they aren't sure when he'll be back and up to speed, and they need to have WR's to put on the field who can perform at an NFL level to be competitive. NFL teams don't get frustrated with their players nearly as much as some fans do.

 

[Rockchild]

I think it's a nice signing for Denver. It gives them some WR depth if something does happen to Marshall or even Stokely who isn't the most durable WR. Plenty of upside at not much financial expense.

 

[Trickster]

I think the team is becoming Fustrated w/ Marshall's behavior... Not saying DJax is capable of knocking him out of the WR1, but signing these WRs is a sign.

I think the team is recognizing that their WR#1 is injured, they aren't sure when he'll be back and up to speed, and they need to have WR's to put on the field who can perform at an NFL level to be competitive. NFL teams don't get frustrated with their players nearly as much as some fans do.

If Denver brought in Parker and Jackson in fears of Marshall's injury, they are in for a long year. The tell tale sign of them fearful of losing Marshall to injury for an extended amount of time would be what they do in the draft or possible trade.

 

[Young 8]

DJax is on a team where he will compete for WR1 status, have no doubts about it.

if Marshall will not recover in time....yesotherwise....LOL :(

 

[Young 8]

If Denver brought in Parker and Jackson in fears of Marshall's injury, they are in for a long year.

exactlyat least D Jax is talented (but old)....Parker is total GARBAGE

 

[The Man With No Name]

exactlyat least D Jax is talented (but old)....Parker is total GARBAGE

Since when is 29 considered old for a wr?

 

[Young 8]

exactlyat least D Jax is talented (but old)....Parker is total GARBAGE

Since when is 29 considered old for a wr?

Anagraphic age & Biological age are 2 different thingsask to Javon Walker too