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DNC Leaks...official thread (2 Viewers)

Jayrod said:
I'll be outraged when dumbasses elect her President in spite of her obvious corruption and unethical behavior.  This is President of the United States of America.  You guys are acting like this is some kind of figurehead with no influence.  If your local traffic attorney or small town CPA can't take $100 from a potential conflict of interest how in the holy hell can our President be taking millions?  Its complete crap that people like you give her a pass.

She should have never been Secretary of State, should should have never gotten the Democratic nomination and she should never be President.

What I'm truly pissed at is our society's lack of outrage.  You, me and every one who gives a crap should be outraged.
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I agree with you, and not giving her a pass.  

There's no Hillary bumper sticker on my car, my friend.  She's dug in like a tick in Washington politics.  There's a reason her unfavorability rankings are this bad.  The liberals aren't giver her a pass, that's why Bernie did so well.  Bernie, who for the past 40-whatever years, has been on the right side of pretty much every issue, years before it was popular to do so.

However, I cannot see people mustering up much outrage for this particular scandal.  This is only my opinion on the American people (low) and their ability to get outraged that some faceless corporation lost out to another faceless corporation and now the Russians have control over some uranium that they can't even export.  

There's nothing new in this game, politicians taking money.....people have heard this one before.  With sexier names, and actual victims.  

So, then, why is she going to win?  Because the Republicans couldn't find a candidate anyone liked more than a buffoon.  

 
I can't help but think that the release of some of the DNC emails is just the start.  If a new batch is twice as degrading to the party & particularly Hillary I don't know how she survives.  Pure conjecture on my part but the initial release could be just an appetizer.

 
Jayrod said:
I'll be outraged when dumbasses elect her President in spite of her obvious corruption and unethical behavior.  This is President of the United States of America.  You guys are acting like this is some kind of figurehead with no influence.  If your local traffic attorney or small town CPA can't take $100 from a potential conflict of interest how in the holy hell can our President be taking millions?  Its complete crap that people like you give her a pass.

She should have never been Secretary of State, should should have never gotten the Democratic nomination and she should never be President.

What I'm truly pissed at is our society's lack of outrage.  You, me and every one who gives a crap should be outraged.
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It wasn't until the leaks where I thought Donald has an actual chance of winning.  However, the Dems will probably hack the voting machines or something.  I wouldn't put anything past our corrupt politicians these days.  They already proved the voting machines can be hacked.

If Donald loses it won't be that bad having him play Monday morning QB.  He can just sit back and tweet about all of her terrible decisions.  He has drawn attention to the corruption, and the dishonest media, so people will still be looking to expose things.

 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2016/07/27/dnc-fresh-hack-investigation-russia-attribution/#30d739056bc2

And there remain some doubts about the alleged provenance of the attacks. Jeff Carr, CEO of security company Taia Global, claimed the current evidence does not definitively point to Russia. Responding to a Vice Motherboard article penned by Kings College London academic Thomas Rid, Carr claimed it was false to assert an IP address used by attackers in the DNC hit was linked to Russia. Rid had noted the same IP address was used by hackers who prized open the German parliament, the Bundestag, a breach attributed to Russian intelligence. But Carr said there was no hard evidence linking the IP to Russia.

“While it’s natural to think of Sofacy as a group of individuals, it’s more like a group of technical indicators which include tools, techniques, procedures, target choices, countries of origin, and of course, people. Since most bad actors operate covertly, we are highly dependent on the forensics. Since many of the tools used are shared, and other indicators easily subverted, the forensics can be unreliable,” Carr wrote on Medium.

“I encourage my colleagues to leave attribution to the FBI and the agencies of the Intelligence Community, and I implore everyone else to ask for proof, even from the U.S. government, whenever you read a headline that places blame on a foreign government for an attack in cyberspace.”

 
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I listened to the voicemails, and there was nothing major on them.  Why would Assange / wikileaks release some meaningless voicemails days after the initial release?  The only answer is it is to tease something bigger.  Hence, the DNC looking into how deep the breach was. aka "oh &#$@+& they have our voicemails now too..". Some of these folks must be sweating bullets wondering what they have.

 
Quez said:
I listened to the voicemails, and there was nothing major on them.  Why would Assange / wikileaks release some meaningless voicemails days after the initial release?  The only answer is it is to tease something bigger.  Hence, the DNC looking into how deep the breach was. aka "oh &#$@+& they have our voicemails now too..". Some of these folks must be sweating bullets wondering what they have.
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I think this is spot on.  This isn't random.  Now, it remains to be seen that there's "something bigger."  Already a lot of damage to DWS.  But, if the liberal media (and I'm liberal, but can call a spade a spade) doesn't have something catastrophic, they are on *ignore mode*.  

 
Quez said:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2016/07/27/dnc-fresh-hack-investigation-russia-attribution/#30d739056bc2

And there remain some doubts about the alleged provenance of the attacks. Jeff Carr, CEO of security company Taia Global, claimed the current evidence does not definitively point to Russia. Responding to a Vice Motherboard article penned by Kings College London academic Thomas Rid, Carr claimed it was false to assert an IP address used by attackers in the DNC hit was linked to Russia. Rid had noted the same IP address was used by hackers who prized open the German parliament, the Bundestag, a breach attributed to Russian intelligence. But Carr said there was no hard evidence linking the IP to Russia.

“While it’s natural to think of Sofacy as a group of individuals, it’s more like a group of technical indicators which include tools, techniques, procedures, target choices, countries of origin, and of course, people. Since most bad actors operate covertly, we are highly dependent on the forensics. Since many of the tools used are shared, and other indicators easily subverted, the forensics can be unreliable,” Carr wrote on Medium.

“I encourage my colleagues to leave attribution to the FBI and the agencies of the Intelligence Community, and I implore everyone else to ask for proof, even from the U.S. government, whenever you read a headline that places blame on a foreign government for an attack in cyberspace.”
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Too late for this.  The narrative is already ingrained in the minds of the masses who "pay attention".  The people who control the narrative are not going to let this be about them.  It's Russia, and that's that.

 
Quez said:
I listened to the voicemails, and there was nothing major on them.  Why would Assange / wikileaks release some meaningless voicemails days after the initial release?  The only answer is it is to tease something bigger.  Hence, the DNC looking into how deep the breach was. aka "oh &#$@+& they have our voicemails now too..". Some of these folks must be sweating bullets wondering what they have.
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to prove to the DNC that they infiltrated everything

 
psychobillies said:
Too late for this.  The narrative is already ingrained in the minds of the masses who "pay attention".  The people who control the narrative are not going to let this be about them.  It's Russia, and that's that.
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They even have the master puppet Obama saying it was Russia.  Trump has already attempted to flip the narrative into "Obama being weak" being the reason they may have hacked, if they did.  I think he is going to take this one and put it on Obama / Clinton.  "Well if we got hacked, then why don't you do anything about it.  See people they are weak!"

 
It's so bizarre.   Even if it was Russia, that should not be our focus at this point, but it is.  Tells me all that I need to know.

 I don't think there should be limits on the press, but there should be laws to protect us from deliberate collusion like this.

 
It's no big deal, they've beclowned themselves both in the emails contents showing collusion with the DNC and by their hysterical reaction frantically trying to shift blame/change subject 

 
Quez said:
They even have the master puppet Obama saying it was Russia.  Trump has already attempted to flip the narrative into "Obama being weak" being the reason they may have hacked, if they did.  I think he is going to take this one and put it on Obama / Clinton.  "Well if we got hacked, then why don't you do anything about it.  See people they are weak!"
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"And BTW, having a private server with government secrets on it made it easier."

 
Jayrod said:
I'll be outraged when dumbasses elect her President in spite of her obvious corruption and unethical behavior.  This is President of the United States of America.  You guys are acting like this is some kind of figurehead with no influence.  If your local traffic attorney or small town CPA can't take $100 from a potential conflict of interest how in the holy hell can our President be taking millions?  Its complete crap that people like you give her a pass.

She should have never been Secretary of State, should should have never gotten the Democratic nomination and she should never be President.

What I'm truly pissed at is our society's lack of outrage.  You, me and every one who gives a crap should be outraged.
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Her opponent is Donald Trump. It's basically picking the least rotten apple.

 
Quez said:
This one is shows how the corporate scum see wars & destabilization as an opportunity for profit.  I was a big critic of Cheney & Haliburton after Iraq, but I guess all these rotten politicians are the same.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08/wikileaks-hillary/
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You do realize Hillary was a director of LeFarge back in the early 90's, way before ISIS or even the Iraq war. The headlines are really misleading.

 
hey there quezarino you damn well better bump this thread and hope that someone pays attention because your boy trumpinator is shooting himself in both feet twice today bromigo best of luck take that to the bank 

 
I don't understand why people are up in arms about this.  Is it really that big of a surprise that politicians, especially Hillary, are corrupt?  To get anywhere above city council, the average politician is bought and paid for 10x over.  And when you talk the highest levels, it's even worse.

This info only confirms what anyone with half a brain already assumed.

 
jabarony said:
I don't understand why people are up in arms about this.  Is it really that big of a surprise that politicians, especially Hillary, are corrupt?  To get anywhere above city council, the average politician is bought and paid for 10x over.  And when you talk the highest levels, it's even worse.

This info only confirms what anyone with half a brain already assumed.
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its the epitome of AH HA ....caught ya red handed

 
Rove! said:
Confirmed that the U.S. knew of weapons shipping out of Benghazi to Syrian " rebels"

http://truepundit.com/wikileaks-bombshell-leaked-to-true-pundit-hillary-clinton-knew-of-weapons-supplied-from-benghazi-to-al-qaeda-in-syria/
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So just who was running these guns and weapons to Syria? The document is heavily redacted (and for obvious reasons) BUT it doesn’t take a genius to figure out the clandestine narrative here. Or perhaps it does.
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So the document is heavily redacted and we don't know who was running these guns and weapons to Syria?

 
The media would have you believe all of the leaks came from the Russian government.  I'm not saying they weren't in there, or it was made to look like they originated there.  However, where did the last 2 major US intelligence leaks come from?  American whistleblowers.  Manning, and Snowden.  Imo, the number one suspect is someone on the inside.

 
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Quez said:
The media would have you believe all of the leaks came from the Russian government.  I'm not saying they weren't in there, or it was made to look like they originated there.  However, where did the last 2 major US intelligence leaks come from?  American whistleblowers.  Manning, and Snowden.  Imo, the number one suspect is someone on the inside.
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This guy agrees:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-31/whistleblowers-stunning-claim-nsa-has-all-hillarys-deleted-emails-it-may-be-leak

Speaking on Aaron Klein's Sunday radio program, “Aaron Klein Investigative Radio,” broadcast on New York’s AM 970 The Answer and Philadelphia’s NewsTalk 990 AM, Binney raised the possibility that the hack of the Democratic National Committee’s server was done not by Russia but by a disgruntled U.S. intelligence worker concerned about Clinton’s compromise of national security secrets via her personal email use.
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For those who get triggered by a zero hedge link:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/02/nsa-has-clintons-deleted-emails-whistleblower-claims.html

It would make more sense that someone within the US intelligence community or Federal Law Enforcement would leak emails damaging to Hillary. They hate her.

 
Hillary is out there saying it's the Riussians, when that hasn't been concluded....pretty irresponsible...

 
Walking Boot said:
Assange saying it wasn't the Russians. He had a DNC staffer on the inside who leaked him the goods. Guy was on his way to meet with the FBI when he was murdered last month. Nothing stolen, just shot. 

Wikileaks offering 20 grand for info on the murder. 
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Haha, no. 

One of my good college buddies actually worked with him directly at the DNC. He was just a data guy that they have many of. Tragic and random.

 
Walking Boot said:
Assange saying it wasn't the Russians. He had a DNC staffer on the inside who leaked him the goods. Guy was on his way to meet with the FBI when he was murdered last month. Nothing stolen, just shot. 

Wikileaks offering 20 grand for info on the murder. 
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Roger Stone said he spoke to Assange, possibly making him and Trump principals to a crime.

That's a big problem if true.

 
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Walking Boot said:
Snopes isnt credible anymore 
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And WhatDoesItMean.com citing a secret Russian intelligence report is? That's the sole source of the claim he was trying to meet the FBI at 4am near his apartment. That supposed intelligence report also claims that the Clinton hit team was apprehended in a gun battle with automatic rifles mere blocks away from the White House. I guess that one just didn't make the news,  huh? 

 
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