QBs w/ career completion percentages below 60%: John Elway, Dan Marino, Warren Moon, Phil Simms, Ken Stabler, John Unitas, Boomer Esiason among others...lot of "one year wonders" there tooI'll add Derek Anderson..nothing screams `one year wonder` MORE than a guy with a lifetime 56.5% comp percentage
Anderson was a RFA and was never offered in a trade. Please stop posting about things you know nothing about.his OWN TEAM tried to give him away this off-season, but no one bit on the trade offers
It's not unreasonable, but it's not likely that a receiver who's spent 3 of his 4 years in the 30's in terms of WR rank jumps up to top 10 status.You're drafting him at his absolute upside, rather than his value. Those are exactly the types of players you should avoid.McDonald and Furry caught about 140 balls between the 2 of them, and I expect much much much less production out of them so why can't Roy who was a top 10 WR in 2006, why can't he post about 80/1,100/5-6 TD...why is that so unreasonable?Great pick here.I'll give Calvin a pass since he was a rookie. Roy should be avoided at all costs.Roy WilliamsIf he never truly lit it up in a Martz offense I doubt he's going to in one that's going to be more predicated on running the ball.
Ok, so I need to grow up, and I admit my comment was a bit pointed. I just disagree that he should be avoided at all costs. Everyone has value at some point.Roy Williams fantasy football finishes, 2004-2007:29, 30, 10, 33.I'm sorry but this is IDIOT SPEAKGreat pick here.I'll give Calvin a pass since he was a rookie. Roy should be avoided at all costs.Roy Williams
If he never truly lit it up in a Martz offense I doubt he's going to in one that's going to be more predicated on running the ball.
Most, if not all 'paid' projections have him as a top 10-12 WR. One popular website (not this one) has him 6th.
I'll pass. And grow up.
Guy was on my DO NOT DRAFT LIST but I couldn't resist and took him over Curtis and Chambers. He went as WR38.Lee Evans
Must be dangerous out on that limb.i wont draft :javon walker, kevin jones, deuce mcalister
Don't go here again. Disagree if you disagree. But don't ever go here. TIA.JI'm sorry but this is IDIOT SPEAKGreat pick here.I'll give Calvin a pass since he was a rookie. Roy should be avoided at all costs.Roy WilliamsIf he never truly lit it up in a Martz offense I doubt he's going to in one that's going to be more predicated on running the ball.
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McNabb is going to be very good this year because he knows if he doesn't Kolb will take his job.javon walker
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come on Garner,Gannon andRice we all excellent FF players in the early 00'sanybody that plays for the raiders. I haven't had a raider on any roster since 1999, and I still feel dirty about that one.
Roy Williams(or even Calvin Johnson) where he's being drafted.If he never truly lit it up in a Martz offense I doubt he's going to in one that's going to be more predicated on running the ball.![]()
You mean last year when he was a rookie and played hurt for over 1/2 season? Played hurt to the point he was popping vicodin just so he could play? Playing hurt in an overly complex system in his rookie year... I say he did pretty good all things considered. CJ2 has alot of upside this year regardless of how much they run the ball. The expected decrease in passing will not be a negative for CJ2 and Roy, it will be a negative to the 3rd/4th WR option like McDonald and Furrey last year.
Furrey and McDonald had more combined targets than Calvin and Roy. Also, last year, Calvin and Roy had a combined THREE targets when the Lions were inside the five yard line. That is not going to happen again. Those two, especially Calvin, have been lighting up camp. I think Martz leaving is a benefit for Calvin and Roy.
The Martz system really favors the dump off over the middle because the premier wideouts face a dropped back D that focuses on them.not for me in any league.come on Garner,Gannon andRice we all excellent FF players in the early 00'sanybody that plays for the raiders. I haven't had a raider on any roster since 1999, and I still feel dirty about that one.
Why do you say Brady will not throw more than 30 TD's this year? He has the same weapons as last year with an easier schedule and the same sadistic run up the score head coach. Brady will at least go for 40 TD's this year and it could be more. The real value is not Maroney but Watson who will take all the TD's that Stallworth had last year. Maroney will still be an afterthought this year and will probably get outproduced by Morris again.think you're missing the boat on LJ...been reading some clippings from KC newspapers, stating he's tearing it up in practices, looking great in the process.I'm not knocking your predictions, I just think LJ might be better than what people expect..he's not chopped liver, lets put it that way..I'll add Derek Anderson..nothing screams `one year wonder` MORE than a guy with a lifetime 56.5% comp percentage..12 tds/10ints final 8 weeks of 2007..his OWN TEAM tried to give him away this off-season, but no one bit on the trade offers..they drafted Quinn for a reason, eventually, he's going to start.with perhaps the toughest schedule in the NFL (at least on paper it appears to be) its easy to imagine the brownies starting out 0-4...and then what happens? Don't draft any Denver RB...without any decent Wr's, Matt Hasselbeck will not be as good as in years past.Anthony Gonzalez might be 'fool's gold' this season, overhyped, underperforming player, relative to his ADP.Tom Brady - don't draft him if you *think* he's throwing 40+ tds this season, he will be lucky to toss 30..his lifetime avg is 28.NE plays an easy schedule, more conducive to running the ball well than it is to chucking-n-ducking..while everyone drafts Moss and Brady, the true value play is L. Maroney..I didn't see a thread for this so I thought maybe it was a good one to compile so "STAY AWAY" type guys. Especially at where you need to draft them.I agree with Jeff Pasquino on Phillip Rivers. NO THANKS. Also: Larry Johnson Jon Kitna
Yeah I strongly disagree on Brady. I doubt they'll play the run up the score routine this year as they tend to completely morph their approach but Brady will have 34-35 TDs.Why do you say Brady will not throw more than 30 TD's this year? He has the same weapons as last year with an easier schedule and the same sadistic run up the score head coach. Brady will at least go for 40 TD's this year and it could be more. The real value is not Maroney but Watson who will take all the TD's that Stallworth had last year. Maroney will still be an afterthought this year and will probably get outproduced by Morris again.think you're missing the boat on LJ...been reading some clippings from KC newspapers, stating he's tearing it up in practices, looking great in the process.I'm not knocking your predictions, I just think LJ might be better than what people expect..he's not chopped liver, lets put it that way..I'll add Derek Anderson..nothing screams `one year wonder` MORE than a guy with a lifetime 56.5% comp percentage..12 tds/10ints final 8 weeks of 2007..his OWN TEAM tried to give him away this off-season, but no one bit on the trade offers..they drafted Quinn for a reason, eventually, he's going to start.with perhaps the toughest schedule in the NFL (at least on paper it appears to be) its easy to imagine the brownies starting out 0-4...and then what happens? Don't draft any Denver RB...without any decent Wr's, Matt Hasselbeck will not be as good as in years past.Anthony Gonzalez might be 'fool's gold' this season, overhyped, underperforming player, relative to his ADP.Tom Brady - don't draft him if you *think* he's throwing 40+ tds this season, he will be lucky to toss 30..his lifetime avg is 28.NE plays an easy schedule, more conducive to running the ball well than it is to chucking-n-ducking..while everyone drafts Moss and Brady, the true value play is L. Maroney..I didn't see a thread for this so I thought maybe it was a good one to compile so "STAY AWAY" type guys. Especially at where you need to draft them.I agree with Jeff Pasquino on Phillip Rivers. NO THANKS. Also: Larry Johnson Jon Kitna
Roy Williams(or even Calvin Johnson) where he's being drafted.If he never truly lit it up in a Martz offense I doubt he's going to in one that's going to be more predicated on running the ball.![]()
You mean last year when he was a rookie and played hurt for over 1/2 season? Played hurt to the point he was popping vicodin just so he could play? Playing hurt in an overly complex system in his rookie year... I say he did pretty good all things considered. CJ2 has alot of upside this year regardless of how much they run the ball. The expected decrease in passing will not be a negative for CJ2 and Roy, it will be a negative to the 3rd/4th WR option like McDonald and Furrey last year.
Furrey and McDonald had more combined targets than Calvin and Roy. Also, last year, Calvin and Roy had a combined THREE targets when the Lions were inside the five yard line. That is not going to happen again. Those two, especially Calvin, have been lighting up camp. I think Martz leaving is a benefit for Calvin and Roy.
The Martz system really favors the dump off over the middle because the premier wideouts face a dropped back D that focuses on them.
Yeah the Martz system really favors the dump off over the middle because the premier wideouts face a dropped back D that focuses on them. Furrey and McDonald had more combined targets than Calvin and Roy. Also, last year, Calvin and Roy had a combined THREE targets when the Lions were inside the five yard line. That is not going to happen again. Those two, especially Calvin, have been lighting up camp.ETA: I think Martz leaving is a benefit for Calvin and Roy.Great buy low for his ADP.I would love to be sitting at the 12 spot and have McGahee and LJ there.The guy I will not touch is Steven Jackson. There is a reason they are not talking contract. He has all the talent in the world, but the groin strain is a problem.greenline said:Marvin Harrison
Anyone saying this must be drafting fourth or fifth this year.His playoff schedule weeks 14-16 is mouth-watering.The guy I will not touch is Steven Jackson. There is a reason they are not talking contract. He has all the talent in the world, but the groin strain is a problem.
No not really, I only do auction leagues. Picking a guy at #3 who had an injury the previous year is a huge risk. The last time a consensus #3 heldout was last year. Didn't workout too well for those owners.Anyone saying this must be drafting fourth or fifth this year.His playoff schedule weeks 14-16 is mouth-watering.The guy I will not touch is Steven Jackson. There is a reason they are not talking contract. He has all the talent in the world, but the groin strain is a problem.