Do you primarily ignore players on Bad O's? (1 Viewer)

[Binky The Doormat]

I generally like to go with proven guys in proven situations over riskier guys that may have a higher ceiling. Consequently I rarely give as much thought and consideration to some of these guys. I mean there is only so much time in the day. Anyone else stuck here?

 

[rufan]

I generally like to go with proven guys in proven situations over riskier guys that may have a higher ceiling. Consequently I rarely give as much thought and consideration to some of these guys. I mean there is only so much time in the day. Anyone else stuck here?

I don't really consider the Jets a bad offense, so it makes little sense to ignore Coles and Cotchery.

 

[beaglemac]

I generally like to go with proven guys in proven situations over riskier guys that may have a higher ceiling. Consequently I rarely give as much thought and consideration to some of these guys. I mean there is only so much time in the day. Anyone else stuck here?

I don't really consider the Jets a bad offense, so it makes little sense to ignore Coles and Cotchery.

I agree... Coles and Cotchery will be good #3/4 Wrs. AS for ignoring, yeah, I wont draft a player from the Raiders unless I get them Dirt cheap.

 

[jagerbomb]

Totally depends on scoring. In PPR those guys are gold during garbage time. Not an exciting way to get points but it works. It's one of the reasons that PPR is a bit lame (RB dump offs also comes to mind).

 

[RBM]

I dont think I would ever avoid a whole unit. Parts of a unit though, like the Vikings passing game are totally off my radar. Titans running game also.

 

[hotdogcollars]

Depends. The Lions were (are?) awful. But, its their D that sucks, so the O generally puts up solid #s. As for OAK, its their O that sucks, and the D had a respectable year last season.

 

[thecardiackid]

I don't play in smaller leagues (8/10 teams), so just about every player (starting) has some associated value. Of course everyone would prefer to draft players from INDY/NE/STL etc, but I generally don't avoid anyone unless their ADP is way off my projections - but then they'll generally get drafted by another team anyway.

 

[zoonation]

In a flex league with PPR Cotchery is big value.

 

[SSOG]

Baltimore finished 12th in scoring last year, and the Jets finished 18th. You might want to redefine what, exactly, constitutes a "bad offense".

Generally speaking, unless an offense is historically bad (like the Raiders last year), they're going to produce SOMEONE fantasy viable. Only the truly elite offenses can produce viable players in all phases of the game (QB, RB, WR, TE), but while a garden-variety bad offense might produce dreck at three of the four spots, it's hard work to suck at all four.

Take the Miami Dolphins last year. At 29th in points and 20th in yards, they were a pretty bad offense (much worse than the two you mentioned)... but despite this, Marty Booker was still looking at a top-20 season if not for untimely injury, and at RB25, Ronnie Brown was one of the best flex options in the league. Tampa was even WORSE, finishing 31st in both points and yards (beating out only the lowly Raiders in both categories), and yet Joey Galloway was the 15th best WR in the league.

 

[Rushmore]

Baltimore finished 12th in scoring last year, and the Jets finished 18th. You might want to redefine what, exactly, constitutes a "bad offense".Generally speaking, unless an offense is historically bad (like the Raiders last year), they're going to produce SOMEONE fantasy viable. Only the truly elite offenses can produce viable players in all phases of the game (QB, RB, WR, TE), but while a garden-variety bad offense might produce dreck at three of the four spots, it's hard work to suck at all four.Take the Miami Dolphins last year. At 29th in points and 20th in yards, they were a pretty bad offense (much worse than the two you mentioned)... but despite this, Marty Booker was still looking at a top-20 season if not for untimely injury, and at RB25, Ronnie Brown was one of the best flex options in the league. Tampa was even WORSE, finishing 31st in both points and yards (beating out only the lowly Raiders in both categories), and yet Joey Galloway was the 15th best WR in the league.

- which is usually the case.

 

[Homer]

In my opinion FAR too much hot air on this site is expended over fringe players totally on the margin of the fantasy football map. If guys on this site are REALLY playing in leagues where the 4th receiver on the Jets is a difference maker, well, (I guess) GOOD for THEM.

Meanwhile, 95% of us really would liek to know WHO'S THE NEXT FRANK GORE? That guy probably almost single-handedly won a hecukva lot of fantasy leagues last year, due to his bang for the buck from where he was drafted.

How this relates to your question? Ignoring guys with talent in prominent roles on WHATEVER team, is almost surely a bad idea. One year Lamont Jordan was a top 10 back and a sure first round pick (with UPSIDE!) in the next season's draft. The next, he's floating toxicity despite being in his 3rd different offense in 3 years that's likely closer to the 1st year than last year, as far as offensive potential goes.

Your question is a good one, and my advice is ALWAYS look for the diamond in the rough. And sometimes that's hard here, when the polished brass gets such a ridiculous amount of attention.

 

[Lord Lucan]

The top two WRs in terms of receptions last season played for Detroit and Houston. Coles and Cotchery were both top 20 fantasy receivers, at least in PPR.

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

no.

bad offense often means limited competition. sometimes the best place for breakouts.

did SF look good entering last year?

AZ Boldin's rookie year?

CHI last year?

CIN in CJ's breakout year?

BUF... ever?

 

[CASS101]

After every other piece of information is digested and you still have two guys ranked close to each other, then I would probably use this as the tie-breaker. For example: Kevin Curtis and Ronald Curry are ranked very close. If you expected similar stats from the two, then I would go with Curtis who plays for the better offense IMO.

 

[Captain Spaulding]

In redraft leagues with TD heavy scoring, I agree I try my best to get the offesive players that are on the elite offensive teams, but so does everyone else so you get what you can get.

Dynasty leagues really doesn't matter. In 2-3 years. with a little luck, a perineal cellar/dweller offense can emerge as a powerhouse.

 

[trogg78]

I got mark clayton really late in a draft and his potential is huge. He could be a top WR2 and he's going to be my WR3. I think a lot of people have felt this way about Andre Johnson and now look at him....he's going to be a good WR1 for a lot of fantasy teams...especially PPR.