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Do you tip your commisioner? (1 Viewer)

In 15 years as commissioner, I was only tipped once. I thought it was odd and I tried to give it back.

 
Gettin said:
No, because he has the same chance of winning all the money and he's the commissioner because he wants to be, not because he has to be.
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That's not true. I tried to give up the commish job in Fantasy Legends I and II and no one would take it. I was able to get a good owner to take the job in Fantasy Legends III. I'm tired of being the commish after all these years.
 
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Had to replace an owner last minute once with a good friend who ended up winning it all. Tried to give me a $50 "bonus" of sorts when he won. I wouldn't let him, just way too much could be read into something like that from the rest of the league if they found out, I didn't want anybody to take it the wrong way.

Nice gesture but I don't think I'd ever be comfortable accepting one, esp. if I competed in the league.

 
Gettin said:
No, because he has the same chance of winning all the money and he's the commissioner because he wants to be, not because he has to be.
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This may not be accurate in most leagues. Some leagues have a commish by default since few people have the "stamina" to handle the issues and stay in the league. As for a Tip? No thanks. I commish and I would not accept it. I would appreciate the idea.

Our last commish clearly implied he would accept a tip. He lasted 1 season.

 
I have never been tipped never in 7 years. I don't want to be. I would turn it down if it was offered, emphatically.

 
I commish one league and do not expect a tip. But if I win a league I always try to tip. A good commish is gold and a tip is a token of your appreciation.

A tip also shows class IMO.

 
I've been a commish in at least one league per year for about 15 years now. Never was offered a tip and wouldn't take it if one were. A few years ago the league voted to cover the commish's league fee. I did accept that, but dropped it to 1/2 the league fee this year since much of the old manual process we used to do weekly free agent moves was automated through the CBS Free agent bidding process.

Now....with the headaches I suffered at the hands of CBS' handling of the meachem play I do have to admit I 2nd guessed that gesture of moving to 1/2 league fee!! LOL

But no tips..not necessary.

 
Hoss_Cartwright said:
Gettin said:
No, because he has the same chance of winning all the money and he's the commissioner because he wants to be, not because he has to be.
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That's not true. I tried to give up the commish job in Fantasy Legends I and II and no one would take it. I was able to get a good owner to take the job in Fantasy Legends III. I'm tired of being the commish after all these years.
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i here you. been running leagues for 12 years now and it is getting old, time to just be an owneri would not accept or expect a tip. but the commissioner's job is unappreciated

 
Dbbr said:
I've been a commish in at least one league per year for about 15 years now. Never was offered a tip and wouldn't take it if one were. A few years ago the league voted to cover the commish's league fee. I did accept that, but dropped it to 1/2 the league fee this year since much of the old manual process we used to do weekly free agent moves was automated through the CBS Free agent bidding process.Now....with the headaches I suffered at the hands of CBS' handling of the meachem play I do have to admit I 2nd guessed that gesture of moving to 1/2 league fee!! LOLBut no tips..not necessary.
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Paying half or all of one's league fee IS a tip :shock:
 
I thank the Commissioners for running the leagues if they do a good job.

 
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fsufan said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
Gettin said:
No, because he has the same chance of winning all the money and he's the commissioner because he wants to be, not because he has to be.
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That's not true. I tried to give up the commish job in Fantasy Legends I and II and no one would take it. I was able to get a good owner to take the job in Fantasy Legends III. I'm tired of being the commish after all these years.
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i here you. been running leagues for 12 years now and it is getting old, time to just be an owneri would not accept or expect a tip. but the commissioner's job is unappreciated
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What a bunch of whiners. You should have been a commissioner before the hobby was computerized.
 
Phurfur said:
fsufan said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
Gettin said:
No, because he has the same chance of winning all the money and he's the commissioner because he wants to be, not because he has to be.
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That's not true. I tried to give up the commish job in Fantasy Legends I and II and no one would take it. I was able to get a good owner to take the job in Fantasy Legends III. I'm tired of being the commish after all these years.
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i here you. been running leagues for 12 years now and it is getting old, time to just be an owneri would not accept or expect a tip. but the commissioner's job is unappreciated
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What a bunch of whiners. You should have been a commissioner before the hobby was computerized.
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I don't agree with how you state it but I agree with the underlying premise.The commissioner's job has become a cake walk since the internet took over. When all the info was compiled from box scores it was a real PITA to commish, nowadays the job is almost fully automated.

Cue the commishes telling us how rough their lives are.

 
haven't but should. frankly commish is a lot of work, usually tireless. I think a "tip" is a little demeaning but we should start a thread with ideas of how to "repay" your commish for the extra time and energy.

 
If by tip you mean that all the owners should take turns buying me beers after the season for listening to all their whinning and #####ing, then yes by all means tip me!

 
I've had a couple of owners buy me a bottle of liquor after a successful season. I've run a league for 8 years now where the commish has to stay more involved and I put a weekly series of 10 or so spreadsheets summarizing various stats, standings, scoring, etc. I always appreciate the gesture, and make sure they know that on the few times it's happened.

 
Chaka said:
Phurfur said:
fsufan said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
Gettin said:
No, because he has the same chance of winning all the money and he's the commissioner because he wants to be, not because he has to be.
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That's not true. I tried to give up the commish job in Fantasy Legends I and II and no one would take it. I was able to get a good owner to take the job in Fantasy Legends III. I'm tired of being the commish after all these years.
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i here you. been running leagues for 12 years now and it is getting old, time to just be an owneri would not accept or expect a tip. but the commissioner's job is unappreciated
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What a bunch of whiners. You should have been a commissioner before the hobby was computerized.
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I don't agree with how you state it but I agree with the underlying premise.The commissioner's job has become a cake walk since the internet took over. When all the info was compiled from box scores it was a real PITA to commish, nowadays the job is almost fully automated.

Cue the commishes telling us how rough their lives are.
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there is more than you think specially when you run 3 leagues like I do, yes i choose to run 3 leagues because I know they will be ran correctly. the biggest pain is collecting league fees

as someone said above, a good commish is gold

 
I wouldn't tip a commish. But if I didn't mind the guy, I'd at least take him out and buy him a beer if it was convenient.

 
Commish in my local league gets whatever is left after all the payouts at the end. How much that is, I never figured it out. League has been around since the stone ages and we have never used a website.

We draft at his house and he feeds us too.

 
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One guy tried to tip me and I wouldn't accept. I just told him to buy me a shot at the rules meeting. He then organized a league wide vote to give me a yearly "tip". Each guy pays an extra $5 every year and I get that. I tried to play it off but they all insisted and said they appreciated my efforts. They played it off as payment for the hard copies of our bylaws and other crap I provide for them each year. The extra $55 isn't huge but it's nice to have a group of buddies like that. :bag:

 
Phurfur said:
What a bunch of whiners. You should have been a commissioner before the hobby was computerized.
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There's always something that needs to be done year round in most cases. We also have special scheduling requirements that can't be produced by league management software, so I wrote my own program to generate the schedules in Fantasy Legends. Also, there's setting up various calendar setups in MFL different times of the year, and facilitating rule change votes, and most importantly finding replacement owners from time to time. There's also having to deal with the occasional whining. So make no mistake about it, being the commish is still a chore. Now I don't want anything from my leagues in compensation, but I do want you to know it's not the cake walk some think it is.
 
Very conflicted in my feelings on this. On one hand, I think owners who think a good commish is their birthright and wouldn't dream of even offering a tip are tools. They think leagues run themselves and everything gets organized by magic because you pay a site to run waivers and keep score. There is NOTHING wrong with acknowledging that a person puts in a lot of extra effort to make the game you enjoy go smoothly.

That being said, I completely understand that a commish wouldn't want a cash tip. They don't do it for the money, so it's not necessary. But in that case, a bottle of wine or something nice would be a good way to show some appreciation. It doesn't have to be expensive; just something to show that you understand they put in effort to help the rest of us have a fun experience. If everyone was a lazy owner who expects a league to run on fairy dust there wouldn't be a league at all.

However (like I said, I'm conflicted) I think the commissioner position attracts a lot of doormat people who enjoy being mules for other owners. They expect to get crap from other owners, they expect to do the work of putting things together, they expect to be bill collectors...but they wouldn't dream of ever accepting any token of appreciation. These commissioners even turn down their own trade opportunities or bend over backwards to avoid doing anything that somebody, somewhere, might think could be shady. They think of themselves as guilty until proven innocent, and they make sure everything they do looks twice as "legit" as every other owner-- even if it hurts their own team. In their deluded minds they hold themselves to a "higher standard," but in reality they just reinforce the notion that the commish is a dancing monkey and needs to prove he's not cheating.

As much as I find that distasteful, I have to admit it's great to be in a league run by one of these mules. You can pretty much demand anything and they scramble to do it-- it's "their job," after all. If you accuse them of doing something wrong, they scrutinize themselves until you're satisfied they're okay. And as much as I try to show appreciation to the commissioner, it's hard to respect someone who doesn't seem to think he deserves it.

Yes, I often try to get the commish a little something (a $7 trophy saying thanks goes a long way) and I shake my head at those who think the commish is the league Cinderella whose job it is to clean up everyone's league messes. But I also shake my head at the commissioners who have that attitude themselves. I can't help but think they almost deserve to be treated that way.

End rant. Sorry.

 
I wouldn't accept a tip as a commish either, but for some reason I always ask for a tip when I deal someone a monster hand in hold em.

 
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
Very conflicted in my feelings on this. On one hand, I think owners who think a good commish is their birthright and wouldn't dream of even offering a tip are tools. They think leagues run themselves and everything gets organized by magic because you pay a site to run waivers and keep score. There is NOTHING wrong with acknowledging that a person puts in a lot of extra effort to make the game you enjoy go smoothly. That being said, I completely understand that a commish wouldn't want a cash tip. They don't do it for the money, so it's not necessary. But in that case, a bottle of wine or something nice would be a good way to show some appreciation. It doesn't have to be expensive; just something to show that you understand they put in effort to help the rest of us have a fun experience. If everyone was a lazy owner who expects a league to run on fairy dust there wouldn't be a league at all.However (like I said, I'm conflicted) I think the commissioner position attracts a lot of doormat people who enjoy being mules for other owners. They expect to get crap from other owners, they expect to do the work of putting things together, they expect to be bill collectors...but they wouldn't dream of ever accepting any token of appreciation. These commissioners even turn down their own trade opportunities or bend over backwards to avoid doing anything that somebody, somewhere, might think could be shady. They think of themselves as guilty until proven innocent, and they make sure everything they do looks twice as "legit" as every other owner-- even if it hurts their own team. In their deluded minds they hold themselves to a "higher standard," but in reality they just reinforce the notion that the commish is a dancing monkey and needs to prove he's not cheating. As much as I find that distasteful, I have to admit it's great to be in a league run by one of these mules. You can pretty much demand anything and they scramble to do it-- it's "their job," after all. If you accuse them of doing something wrong, they scrutinize themselves until you're satisfied they're okay. And as much as I try to show appreciation to the commissioner, it's hard to respect someone who doesn't seem to think he deserves it.Yes, I often try to get the commish a little something (a $7 trophy saying thanks goes a long way) and I shake my head at those who think the commish is the league Cinderella whose job it is to clean up everyone's league messes. But I also shake my head at the commissioners who have that attitude themselves. I can't help but think they almost deserve to be treated that way. End rant. Sorry.
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Our league has a 500 dollar entry fee, the Commish gets 250 off for running the league. Plus most commishs I know love doing it and are somewhat control freaks. One commish used to ##### all the time so we ousted him..ever since then he has begged to be commish again.
 
I commish one league. Never been tipped and wouldn't accept a tip. League members "compensate" me by not being jerks when there's disagreements. I really enjoy being commissioner (although I don't think I'd want to handle more than one league).

 
No tip but I wouldn't be opposed to having people chip in more for the things like food (I hold the draft and cook the food), drinks, trophey upkeep, etc. Everyone does throw in a little but a lot still comes out of my pocket.

 
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
However (like I said, I'm conflicted) I think the commissioner position attracts a lot of doormat people who enjoy being mules for other owners. They expect to get crap from other owners, they expect to do the work of putting things together, they expect to be bill collectors...but they wouldn't dream of ever accepting any token of appreciation. These commissioners even turn down their own trade opportunities or bend over backwards to avoid doing anything that somebody, somewhere, might think could be shady. They think of themselves as guilty until proven innocent, and they make sure everything they do looks twice as "legit" as every other owner-- even if it hurts their own team. In their deluded minds they hold themselves to a "higher standard," but in reality they just reinforce the notion that the commish is a dancing monkey and needs to prove he's not cheating.

As much as I find that distasteful, I have to admit it's great to be in a league run by one of these mules. You can pretty much demand anything and they scramble to do it-- it's "their job," after all. If you accuse them of doing something wrong, they scrutinize themselves until you're satisfied they're okay. And as much as I try to show appreciation to the commissioner, it's hard to respect someone who doesn't seem to think he deserves it.
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Whaaaaaaaa??? A lot of doormat people??? You may have a guy like this in your one league, but to generalize such things I can tell you that don't have any idea what the hell you're talking about. And your post and your attitude really pissed me off. "I have to admit it's great to be in a league run by one of these mules. You can pretty much demand anything and they scramble to do it." You're really a tool, you know that?I've been in many leagues over the years, and I've never been in one where the commish wasn't one of the most highly competitive, wants-to-kick-your-### owners in the league. They (and I, for I commish 2 leagues) run leagues usually because they know if they run things they will be done right, and they are really into fantasy football. Certainly NOT because they have some sort of doormat or mule complex. Deluded? Dancing monkeys? I think your post was highly insulting to all who do this job, and I swear if you were in my league, after reading your post, I'd kick your ### out and tell you to find someone else to disrespect for all his effort.

 
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Couch Potato said:
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
However (like I said, I'm conflicted) I think the commissioner position attracts a lot of doormat people who enjoy being mules for other owners. They expect to get crap from other owners, they expect to do the work of putting things together, they expect to be bill collectors...but they wouldn't dream of ever accepting any token of appreciation. These commissioners even turn down their own trade opportunities or bend over backwards to avoid doing anything that somebody, somewhere, might think could be shady. They think of themselves as guilty until proven innocent, and they make sure everything they do looks twice as "legit" as every other owner-- even if it hurts their own team. In their deluded minds they hold themselves to a "higher standard," but in reality they just reinforce the notion that the commish is a dancing monkey and needs to prove he's not cheating. As much as I find that distasteful, I have to admit it's great to be in a league run by one of these mules. You can pretty much demand anything and they scramble to do it-- it's "their job," after all. If you accuse them of doing something wrong, they scrutinize themselves until you're satisfied they're okay. And as much as I try to show appreciation to the commissioner, it's hard to respect someone who doesn't seem to think he deserves it.
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Whaaaaaaaa??? You may have a guy like this in your one league, but to generalize such things I can tell you that don't have any idea what the hell you're talking about. And, this post and your attitude really pissed me off. "I have to admit it's great to be in a league run by one of these mules. You can pretty much demand anything and they scramble to do it." You're really a tool, you know that?I've been in many leagues over the years, and I've never been in one where the commish wasn't one of the most highly competitive, wants-to-kick-your-### owners in the league. They (and I, for I commish 2 leagues) run leagues usually because they know if they run things they will be done right, and they are really into fantasy football. Certainly NOT because they have some sort of doormat or mule complex. I think your post was highly insulting to all who do this job, and I swear if you were in my league, after reading your post, I'd kick your ### out and tell you to find someone else to disrespect for all his effort.
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Simmer down, chief. I guess I hit a nerve. That's cool if you don't agree. I've seen it in a number of leagues. I said the position attracts these people, and I'm absolutely right. I didn't say every commish is like that. But if you spend time on this forum you'll see it. It's interesting that because you claim not to see it yourself, I don't know what I'm talking about-- as if your experience is the end-all of fantasy football.I'm also comfortable with my posts and attitude ruffling your feathers. I didn't post it to make friends out of strangers on the Internet. I posted it to add my thoughts about the topic-- tipping commissioners. I believe in doing something, I understand why a commissioner wouldn't want it and I think many commissioners have a Cinderella mindset. I don't know if you're just in a bad mood on Christmas, or you saw a little bit of yourself in my post (you admitted you commish two leagues). Maybe I hit too close to home. I'm a commissioner as well, but the truth is the truth. Hope you enjoy your fantasy of kicking me out of your league (that'll really teach me a lesson) and Merry Christmas.
 
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
Couch Potato said:
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
However (like I said, I'm conflicted) I think the commissioner position attracts a lot of doormat people who enjoy being mules for other owners. They expect to get crap from other owners, they expect to do the work of putting things together, they expect to be bill collectors...but they wouldn't dream of ever accepting any token of appreciation. These commissioners even turn down their own trade opportunities or bend over backwards to avoid doing anything that somebody, somewhere, might think could be shady. They think of themselves as guilty until proven innocent, and they make sure everything they do looks twice as "legit" as every other owner-- even if it hurts their own team. In their deluded minds they hold themselves to a "higher standard," but in reality they just reinforce the notion that the commish is a dancing monkey and needs to prove he's not cheating. As much as I find that distasteful, I have to admit it's great to be in a league run by one of these mules. You can pretty much demand anything and they scramble to do it-- it's "their job," after all. If you accuse them of doing something wrong, they scrutinize themselves until you're satisfied they're okay. And as much as I try to show appreciation to the commissioner, it's hard to respect someone who doesn't seem to think he deserves it.
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Whaaaaaaaa??? You may have a guy like this in your one league, but to generalize such things I can tell you that don't have any idea what the hell you're talking about. And, this post and your attitude really pissed me off. "I have to admit it's great to be in a league run by one of these mules. You can pretty much demand anything and they scramble to do it." You're really a tool, you know that?I've been in many leagues over the years, and I've never been in one where the commish wasn't one of the most highly competitive, wants-to-kick-your-### owners in the league. They (and I, for I commish 2 leagues) run leagues usually because they know if they run things they will be done right, and they are really into fantasy football. Certainly NOT because they have some sort of doormat or mule complex. I think your post was highly insulting to all who do this job, and I swear if you were in my league, after reading your post, I'd kick your ### out and tell you to find someone else to disrespect for all his effort.
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Simmer down, chief. I guess I hit a nerve. That's cool if you don't agree. I've seen it in a number of leagues. I said the position attracts these people, and I'm absolutely right. I didn't say every commish is like that. But if you spend time on this forum you'll see it. It's interesting that because you claim not to see it yourself, I don't know what I'm talking about-- as if your experience is the end-all of fantasy football.I'm also comfortable with my posts and attitude ruffling your feathers. I didn't post it to make friends out of strangers on the Internet. I posted it to add my thoughts about the topic-- tipping commissioners. I believe in doing something, I understand why a commissioner wouldn't want it and I think many commissioners have a Cinderella mindset. I don't know if you're just in a bad mood on Christmas, or you saw a little bit of yourself in my post (you admitted you commish two leagues). Maybe I hit too close to home. I'm a commissioner as well, but the truth is the truth. Hope you enjoy your fantasy of kicking me out of your league (that'll really teach me a lesson) and Merry Christmas.
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Your reply is just more evidence you're a tool. It's likely these commissioners in the leagues you're in are just fine and other owners probably don't see them that way at all, and that your perception of them as doormats, mules, and deluded monkeys has more to do with your view of people in general than anything else. Just talking about people in those terms says volumes about you. How sad. I'm through here. Merry Xmas.
 
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fruity pebbles said:
If you win big for the year do you give the commish a % of your winnings?
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Ha. That's awesome. He'll be lucky if he doesn't get a barrage of snide email rubbing his nose in it.
 
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