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Dodds and Bloom both have Stafford pretty high (1 Viewer)

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Dodds and Bloom have Mathew Stafford as a top 10 start against the Jets at home this week. Most Gurus have him in the 15, 16 range. What are they seeing? Is Stafford that good to be ranked that high against a defense like the Jets? Im not mocking their rankings I just want to understand it is all. Anybody?

 
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It doesn't surprise me that they're high on Stafford, they've been backing him since the preseason. What's surprising this week, though, is that you would expect them to be high on the guys Stafford's passing to, but they're not (relative to other experts).

Megatron's rankings

Burleson's rankings

I'm benching Stafford (got Brees) but playing Megatron (can't bench him, even if he's playing on Revis island).

More importantly, I'm trying to decide whether Jets -4 is a sucker bet.

 
I think its because Detroit isn't as bad as people think they are and Stafford is a pretty good QB.

Let's look at their body of work for this year:

- They beat Chicago in Chicago (I don't care what the rulebook says)

- They went toe to toe with Vick and barely lost in a barn burner

- They went toe to toe with the REAL Green Bay

- They whooped the piss out of St Louis

- They stayed with a very good Jints team to the very end (in New Jersey) even though they were playing with their 3rd string QB

- They dogged Washington

- New York has been susceptible on the road defensively (see the Miami game) albeit with a banged up Revis.

The Lions are on the verge of finding their identity and New York is back to struggling offensively. I think Stafford goes out and surprises everybody.

 
Offense on the rise versus Defense plateauing.
Interesting. If anything, it's their offense that has hit the plateau. Their defense gave up 9 points, 3 off a bonehead punter's mistake, and 3 in garbage time. :thumbup: But I do like the Lions' offense, just not this week so much.

 
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It doesn't surprise me that they're high on Stafford, they've been backing him since the preseason. What's surprising this week, though, is that you would expect them to be high on the guys Stafford's passing to, but they're not (relative to other experts).

Megatron's rankings

Burleson's rankings
Don't mean to turn this into a Burleson thread but FGB has him 57th this week? That seems extremely low. If Revis locks up on Megatron like Ryan says he will, Stafford could throw a ton to Burleson. Cromartie's a tough matchup but Burleson has quietly been getting a healthy number of targets each week. I could see him being a solid WR3 in PPR leagues this week.
 
Great, thought it was an easy decision to start Big Ben over Stafford. This thread is going to make me second guess myself.

 
Dodds and Bloom have Mathew Stafford as a top 10 start against the Jets at home this week. Most Gurus have him in the 15, 16 range. What are they seeing? Is Stafford that good to be ranked that high against a defense like the Jets? Im not mocking their rankings I just want to understand it is all. Anybody?
i've been mystified by this all week long, so i'm with you. combined with this and the fact that the ranking for cutler vs. BUF is quite low, and i'm even more confused.
 
My opponent this week has Calvin and unfortunately Id bett good money Megatron still ends up with 100yds + TD. Revis is tough but Calvin wins 10 times out of 10 in jump ball situations.. Id love to be wrong but Calvin is just on a whole other level.

 
Great, thought it was an easy decision to start Big Ben over Stafford. This thread is going to make me second guess myself.
Actually, I'm starting Stafford over Roethlisberger and sitting Stafford for Eli in another league. Bengals @home vs Roethlisberger could potentially be bad for Roethlisberger. Bengals actually don't give out that many fantasy points. Brady and Ryan were the only ones to have good weeks against them but those were away games. Although, Roethlisberger is better than Flacco, Freeman, and Henne so he could have a good day. He just put up a stinker against them last year @CIN so I don't think he is a safe play and at least warranting thought considering Jets are a good real life defense but give up more points to fantasy quarterbacks than Cincinnati believe it or not. That's probably why Stafford is ranked higher than him. Prior to last week they were among the top 8 best fantasy matchups for QBs. However, because of last week against Rodgers, the Jets did boost their ranking quite a bit and are middle of the road. The Jets had the bye to prepare for the Packers and they don't have that luxury against the Lions. That and the fact that the Jets are a lot more lenient on the road should give Stafford enough of an edge to make him startable. I don't expect as big of a week as last one though. 250 yards, 2 TD, and 1 INT would be enough.
 
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Dodds and Bloom have Mathew Stafford as a top 10 start against the Jets at home this week. Most Gurus have him in the 15, 16 range. What are they seeing? Is Stafford that good to be ranked that high against a defense like the Jets? Im not mocking their rankings I just want to understand it is all. Anybody?
LoL. Gurus.... Lol... Gurus... Gurus????Lol...All seriousness... What are your other options?If you look at the SoS on their content webpage, you will see that the Jets have been a neutral matchup for QB's so far. They haven't been shutting down opposing QBs. SoS is a good tool just to see how many fantasy points defenses have actually been allowing. The Jets do not come in as a bad matchup for QBs so far this season. What are your other options?
 
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Just wanted to add: Revis had a hamstring injury earlier this season and is just getting healthy. Hamstrings tend to limit players for extended periods of time, even after they resume playing. I wouldn't let the 'Revis Island' idea scare you too much this coming week, and further into the season.

 
I think some of it also has the do with the fact that the Lions actually have weapons. A lot of people are focusing in on the Calvin/Revis matchup as the major reasoning for or against Stafford. But Jahvid is an additional threat out of the backfield and with Pettigrew healthy, that's an additional mismatch (okay, mismatch is a strong word) at least "viable option" for Stafford.

Used to be shutting down Calvin would get you 75% there against the Lions passing game but that's not as true anymore. Stafford could post quality numbers even with a relatively quiet day from Calvin.

 
I was impressed with Stafford last week, feel like the kid's really coming along. I imagine some of this is simply that Bloom and DD saw some of that game. He wasn't Joe Montana but he didn't look like a rook either and it's only his second game this year.

 
I believe Cromartie will draw Johnson. I haven't heard Ryan say Revis will get that assignment, although perhaps he has, but I havent heard that. I was watching one of the NFLNW shows, and they were saying Cromartie matches up better agianst Johnson, and they made some good points. Both are tall and tend to be long striders in their running gaits. Revis is much better at quick changes in direction. Cromartie is not as fast straight line as Revis, but I look for him to give Johnson a nice cushion.

I also think it's fools gold to think the Jets pass defense is really 18th in the NFL, not with Revis back and the rookie Wilson back in a part time nickel role. Remember too that Pace is only now returning to full health after missing the first 4 games, and he is the Jets best pass rusher. Now, add in the fact that the Jets just might be looking for redemtion and pay back for being shut out at home...

I look for the Jets to run a lot, and away from Suh. The Jets don't have much to worry about defending the run, so Stafford may see more blitzes in this one game than the Lions have seen all season. They will likely apply as much pass rush pressure as possible making it more difficult for Stafford to have the time to hit Johnson deep.

I think Stafford could be in for a long day. I generally don't like any team's chances after their opponent has just been shutout at home, especially a team with legit playoff aspirations.

 
nickel&dime said:
It doesn't surprise me that they're high on Stafford, they've been backing him since the preseason. What's surprising this week, though, is that you would expect them to be high on the guys Stafford's passing to, but they're not (relative to other experts).

Megatron's rankings

Burleson's rankings

I'm benching Stafford (got Brees) but playing Megatron (can't bench him, even if he's playing on Revis island).

More importantly, I'm trying to decide whether Jets -4 is a sucker bet.
Thats an awesome site... why didn't I know about it.. got any other awesome sites for ff?

 
Don't see the same potential in Stafford ... especially against the NY Jets.

Megatron has been a disappointment since his first year with hugely inconsistent play from week to week.

I also think that Burleson is over-rated and 90% hype ... much like Donte Stallworth.

The addition of Pettigrew helps them to keep folks somewhat honest, but with Revis healthy this just not make any sense to me.

I don't see Detroit scoring more than 13 points. I see Stafford flirting with 200-225 yards, with 1 TD and 2 picks minimum.

 
I believe Cromartie will draw Johnson. I haven't heard Ryan say Revis will get that assignment, although perhaps he has, but I havent heard that.
Ryan said earlier this week that Revis will match up most of the game on Calvin. “There’ll be times when he’s not, but he’ll generally be lined up on Calvin Johnson,” Ryan said.

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That's one reason why I think Burleson might be a sneaky play in PPR leagues this week.

 
Megatron has been a disappointment since his first year with hugely inconsistent play from week to week.
He's top 5 at WR and is tied for Td's for Wr's in the NFL? You think that is disappointing?He's had young QB's, backup QB's, injuries, horrible surrounding talent since he's been in Detroit. This is by far the best team he's played with and even then, it's a team that will finish below .500.Try looking at the glass 1/2 full, it's not all doom and gloom in Detroit this year.The Jets are a tough matchup. There's no doubt and starting any Lion against them you risk a low fantasy score, there's no doubt. If you have great options, you may want to consider using them. Otherwise, you play your studs and you hope they come up big. Detroit is playing at home, they've played well there.I think you are underestimating Detroit. If Detroit only scores 13, the Jets won't be too far away from that point total. The game will be relatively close and the team that makes the least amount of mistakes will win.
 
Here's another Stafford vs. Cutler owner. Guessed right with Stafford over Cassel last week, but with only one game in the books with Stafford and Cutler has his own propensity to score big, this is a very tough decision.

The real question is what to make of the Jets defense. If they are a tough matchup, than I'd like to go with Cutler. If they are just middle fo the road, than I'd like to go with Stafford. I feel like I know the QB's better than I know the Jets. That's where my real struggle lies with this decision.

And with the Jets, is their past performance their real value due to Revis' holdout and injury? What about the rest of the defense? And we can't forget about the fact that Stafford is still young and Rex Ryan knows how to mix it up. Dang, I'm still confused on this one.

ETA: OK, after further review....Cutler looks like a fairly safe start this week. The Bears are coming off of the bye and the Bills don't rush the passer well and they haven't had a bad QB game against them since week 1 when Henne went for 185 and 0 TD's. I think I've talked myself into Cutler as their are just too many unknowns with Stafford, IMO.

 
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ETA: OK, after further review....Cutler looks like a fairly safe start this week. The Bears are coming off of the bye and the Bills don't rush the passer well and they haven't had a bad QB game against them since week 1 when Henne went for 185 and 0 TD's. I think I've talked myself into Cutler as their are just too many unknowns with Stafford, IMO.
this, i would think, is the conventional wisdom. however, stafford being ranked a 7 spots ahead of cutler in FBG rankings (granted only a point higher) though has me really confused. i probably SHOULD be starting cutler...but the FBG ranking is sticking with me and has all week.
 
You don't mess with Mother Nature or David Dodds.
Dont recall anyone messing with Dodds, I just didnt understand his rankings, never the less I had Stafford in my lineup and he came up big! I just hope he isnt out another six weeks since he reinjured his shoulder.
 
You don't mess with Mother Nature or David Dodds.
Dont recall anyone messing with Dodds, I just didnt understand his rankings, never the less I had Stafford in my lineup and he came up big! I just hope he isnt out another six weeks since he reinjured his shoulder.
I drafted Stafford. He went down in week 1 so I traded for Romo and held on to Stafford. Then Romo went down, but it was OK cause I still had Stafford. 4 TDs last week, 3 more this week, and then he gets hurt again. I am down to Jon Kitna. Uh-oh.
 
You don't mess with Mother Nature or David Dodds.
Dont recall anyone messing with Dodds, I just didnt understand his rankings, never the less I had Stafford in my lineup and he came up big! I just hope he isnt out another six weeks since he reinjured his shoulder.
I drafted Stafford. He went down in week 1 so I traded for Romo and held on to Stafford. Then Romo went down, but it was OK cause I still had Stafford. 4 TDs last week, 3 more this week, and then he gets hurt again. I am down to Jon Kitna. Uh-oh.
What other moves did you make this year? :lmao:
 
You don't mess with Mother Nature or David Dodds.
Dont recall anyone messing with Dodds, I just didnt understand his rankings, never the less I had Stafford in my lineup and he came up big! I just hope he isnt out another six weeks since he reinjured his shoulder.
I drafted Stafford. He went down in week 1 so I traded for Romo and held on to Stafford. Then Romo went down, but it was OK cause I still had Stafford. 4 TDs last week, 3 more this week, and then he gets hurt again. I am down to Jon Kitna. Uh-oh.
What other moves did you make this year? :bowtie:
nice reply. Stafford getting hurt twice this year was relevant to the thread. Sorry you didn't feel that way.It's those type of snarky Cliff Klavin (correct spelling) type of comments that detract from what is otherwise a great fantasy football site.
 
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You don't mess with Mother Nature or David Dodds.
Dont recall anyone messing with Dodds, I just didnt understand his rankings, never the less I had Stafford in my lineup and he came up big! I just hope he isnt out another six weeks since he reinjured his shoulder.
I drafted Stafford. He went down in week 1 so I traded for Romo and held on to Stafford. Then Romo went down, but it was OK cause I still had Stafford. 4 TDs last week, 3 more this week, and then he gets hurt again. I am down to Jon Kitna. Uh-oh.
What other moves did you make this year? :popcorn:
:lmao:
 
BassNBrew said:
Cliff Clavin said:
Keith1 said:
bushisdaman said:
BassNBrew said:
You don't mess with Mother Nature or David Dodds.
Dont recall anyone messing with Dodds, I just didnt understand his rankings, never the less I had Stafford in my lineup and he came up big! I just hope he isnt out another six weeks since he reinjured his shoulder.
I drafted Stafford. He went down in week 1 so I traded for Romo and held on to Stafford. Then Romo went down, but it was OK cause I still had Stafford. 4 TDs last week, 3 more this week, and then he gets hurt again. I am down to Jon Kitna. Uh-oh.
What other moves did you make this year? :popcorn:
:lmao:
Keith did not think that was very funny.
 
I think Stafford is done for the year, they showed a clip and it looks like he re dislocated his shoulder. Stick a fork in him.

 
Id also like to add that detroit probably needs to burn another 1st on a new QB and Stafford should change his name to Matt Glassford

 
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