Does anyone switch to all play or similar for playoffs (1 Viewer)

[AcerFC]

I know we have discussed regular season H2H vs all play vs victory points. My question is for the playoffs

I was in the semis this week against arguably the best (or second) best team while the guys in the other end of the bracket were lower caliber

It just so happened that I scored high points (thanks David Johnson) but the team I played scored second high and took a really bad beat

Got me thinking there has to be a way to limit the luck of the draw.

Anyone do anything different when it comes to playoffs. Something like an all play or a different form of extended weekly tournament. This is for H2H leagues that do not use all play or victory points

 

[Hu-Tang Clan]

In one of my leagues we went to survivor style for the first time this year. So all 6 teams put in their lineup and the two lowest scoring teams get knocked out week 14. Then the two lowest of the four left in week 15 are out and then of course H2H in the final.

 

[Arodin]

I've been in a few smaller leagues that run two-week long playoff contests. Doesn't eliminate luck, but certainly dilutes the effect of a fluke game or a bad matchup.

 

[AcerFC]

In one of my leagues we went to survivor style for the first time this year. So all 6 teams put in their lineup and the two lowest scoring teams get knocked out week 14. Then the two lowest of the four left in week 15 are out and then of course H2H in the final.

Interesting. How do you like it. I would have been eliminated last week as the number 1 seed with injuries killing me.

I've been in a few smaller leagues that run two-week long playoff contests. Doesn't eliminate luck, but certainly dilutes the effect of a fluke game or a bad matchup.

So is it the same teams playing each other over two weeks or do the top 4 swap? Also what is a smaller league number

 

[wodahSShadow]

In two of my leagues, playoffs turn into all-play. Highest ccumulative score over weeks 14-16 wins. 1st seed gets 20 (total) points added to their score, 2nd seed 10. 3rd season in doing it this way,it couldn't have worked out better.

 

[Cjw_55106]

Never heard of it, but not a bad idea....something for me to consider in the league I run. Anyone know if ESPN software supports this?

 

[AcerFC]

In two of my leagues, playoffs turn into all-play. Highest ccumulative score over weeks 14-16 wins. 1st seed gets 20 (total) points added to their score, 2nd seed 10. 3rd season in doing it this way,it couldn't have worked out better.

Im not trying to be a pain, just trying to understand

Are all the teams playing each other (so winner goes 3-0, loser 0-3) over two weeks or is it just based on total team points. When does the bonus points get added in, at the end or each week

 

[Arodin]

I've been in a few smaller leagues that run two-week long playoff contests. Doesn't eliminate luck, but certainly dilutes the effect of a fluke game or a bad matchup.

So is it the same teams playing each other over two weeks or do the top 4 swap? Also what is a smaller league number

Same teams play a cummulative score match for two weeks. I'd never thought about doing a round robin or best ball format till this thread.

Smaller leagues as in 8 or 10 teams, When the playoffs take 4 weeks to resolve with only four teams in the mix, I'm not sure how popular it would be in a standard 12-teamer. Also hard to fit a balanced schedule in with more teams and still have time for a longer playoff format.

Anecdotally, it seems to do a good job of reducing the variance and having the "stronger" team advance more often.

 

[chauncey]

These are interesting ideas.

I think I still prefer the H2H style and the good and bad luck that goes with it, at least for my main league that has been around for a decade plus. The bad beats and hot streaks are part of the history of the league.

For a startup league I'd be interested in trying something different, especially if it is a competitive group.

 

[AcerFC]

These are interesting ideas.

I think I still prefer the H2H style and the good and bad luck that goes with it, at least for my main league that has been around for a decade plus. The bad beats and hot streaks are part of the history of the league.

For a startup league I'd be interested in trying something different, especially if it is a competitive group.

Its funny

Im at a point in my life with soccer games, lacrosse practices and hockey games that I want to minimize the luck factor that comes with this hobby. If it were up to me, we would be all play, best lineup but others dont like that. I reworked the entire year to look at victory points in three different formats. It changed one team being out and one being in every time. To me, a bad beat that my opponent took is extremely awful. Especially when no one else even comes 15 points within the two of us and the other semifinals are almost 60 points behind

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

I've been in a few smaller leagues that run two-week long playoff contests. Doesn't eliminate luck, but certainly dilutes the effect of a fluke game or a bad matchup.

So is it the same teams playing each other over two weeks or do the top 4 swap? Also what is a smaller league number

Usually it's the same two teams going H2H over the two-week span. I ran the playoffs this way my very first time as a league commish back in 1997 but hadn't seen it used anywhere in about 12 years ... until our work league's new commish re-instituted it for this season.

There's two inherent problems with it though: (a) it only works with 4-team playoffs; (b) you either have to cut the regular season back to 12 weeks or run the playoffs through week 17 - neither of which are very palatable options IMO.

Personally if you want a 4-team playoff I'd rather run the regular season through week 13, then have a 3-week playoff with either All-Play (which I don't know whether ESPN etc. supports) or round-robin H2H among the 4 playoff teams (which it does). The latter is nice in that it preserves the H2H format while making all 3 weeks count equally - putting up a dud in Week 15 and a great week in Week 16 counts just as much as vice-versa ... not that I'm bitter that two of my three favored teams spit the bit this past weekend to knock me out of the money or anything.

 

[Hu-Tang Clan]

In one of my leagues we went to survivor style for the first time this year. So all 6 teams put in their lineup and the two lowest scoring teams get knocked out week 14. Then the two lowest of the four left in week 15 are out and then of course H2H in the final.

Interesting. How do you like it. I would have been eliminated last week as the number 1 seed with injuries killing me.

I didn't make the playoffs but I was one of the people that proposed the idea. Having 2 teams have great weeks against each other while someone is just a bit better than another crappy team sucks. I get the fact that most probably prefer H2H but I like the idea.