Does this trade make sense to anyone else? (1 Viewer)

[chris1969]

Oakland trades Randy Moss to KC for Trent Green, their 1st round pick and their 4th round pick.

Oakland takes CJ with the first pick overall.

With #23 they take a tackle like Staley or Blaylock

with # 33 they take Drew Stanton

I think that both teams would make out on that trade. What do you guys think?

 

[simmonjm]

Oakland trades Randy Moss to KC for Trent Green, their 1st round pick and their 4th round pick.Oakland takes CJ with the first pick overall.With #23 they take a tackle like Staley or Blaylockwith # 33 they take Drew StantonI think that both teams would make out on that trade. What do you guys think?

This is a great trade for the Raiders but a horrible trade for the Chiefs.

 

[massraider]

Randy Moss has no where near that value, unfortunately.

I'd be happy if the Raiders managed to trade him for a 3rd rounder. Or, for that matter, a 5th rounder. I wouldn't mind if they traded him for a new kicking tee for Sebastian Janikowski. Or the complete Sopranos season 1.

I'd be happy if they cut him outright.

 

[Phurfur]

Oakland trades Randy Moss to KC for Trent Green, their 1st round pick and their 4th round pick.Oakland takes CJ with the first pick overall.With #23 they take a tackle like Staley or Blaylockwith # 33 they take Drew StantonI think that both teams would make out on that trade. What do you guys think?

How about if they traded Moss for Detroit's first 4 picks, that woud be sweet.

 

[Riffraff]

Agreed, Randy Moss is not worth a first round pick. This is not 1998-2003.

 

[chris1969]

So you guys think he's lost his ability? I thought it was more that he didn't want to play last year. Do you think K.C. could draft a better WR at #23?

 

[Pat Patriot]

Trying to find out when Randy Moss wants to play and when he doesnt is a headache that most teams can do without. Randy Moss is more likely to be traded for a 3rd rounder if Oakland is determined that they are taking Calvin Johnson.

 

[massraider]

So you guys think he's lost his ability? I thought it was more that he didn't want to play last year. Do you think K.C. could draft a better WR at #23?

Lost amidst his gutless performance last year, is the fact that he can't stay healthy anymore. With a huge contract, a history of running when things go bad, and questionable durability, you have to factor in the idea that any team that trades for him is doing the Raiders a favor. It's kind of like an NBA deal, where teams trade these overpaid slugs just to get out from under the contract.

 

[Traders2001]

Oakland trades Randy Moss to KC for Trent Green, their 1st round pick and their 4th round pick.Oakland takes CJ with the first pick overall.With #23 they take a tackle like Staley or Blaylockwith # 33 they take Drew StantonI think that both teams would make out on that trade. What do you guys think?

NO sense .If they get a 2nd round pick for Moss they are very lucky.

 

[chris1969]

Oakland trades Randy Moss to KC for Trent Green, their 1st round pick and their 4th round pick.Oakland takes CJ with the first pick overall.With #23 they take a tackle like Staley or Blaylockwith # 33 they take Drew StantonI think that both teams would make out on that trade. What do you guys think?

NO sense .If they get a 2nd round pick for Moss they are very lucky.

I think KC and SD should be beating down their door if they can get Moss for a second rounder

 

[massraider]

Oakland trades Randy Moss to KC for Trent Green, their 1st round pick and their 4th round pick.Oakland takes CJ with the first pick overall.With #23 they take a tackle like Staley or Blaylockwith # 33 they take Drew StantonI think that both teams would make out on that trade. What do you guys think?

NO sense .If they get a 2nd round pick for Moss they are very lucky.

I think KC and SD should be beating down their door if they can get Moss for a second rounder

I would trade him for whatever you have in your pockets right now.

 

[Traders2001]

Oakland trades Randy Moss to KC for Trent Green, their 1st round pick and their 4th round pick.Oakland takes CJ with the first pick overall.With #23 they take a tackle like Staley or Blaylockwith # 33 they take Drew StantonI think that both teams would make out on that trade. What do you guys think?

NO sense .If they get a 2nd round pick for Moss they are very lucky.

I think KC and SD should be beating down their door if they can get Moss for a second rounder

Agreed 100% . If i was Buffalo and could get Turner and then add Moss wow you have all of a sudden a great offense .

 

[yellowdog]

Moss and his contract are almost untradeable.

 

[-OZ-]

Oakland trades Randy Moss to KC for Trent Green, their 1st round pick and their 4th round pick.Oakland takes CJ with the first pick overall.With #23 they take a tackle like Staley or Blaylockwith # 33 they take Drew StantonI think that both teams would make out on that trade. What do you guys think?

NO sense .If they get a 2nd round pick for Moss they are very lucky.

I think KC and SD should be beating down their door if they can get Moss for a second rounder

Great. Let's add Denver in there and complete the intradivision trade. Seriously, there is no chance that KC and Oakland will make a trade involving players of this magnitude.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Oakland trades Randy Moss to KC for Trent Green, their 1st round pick and their 4th round pick.Oakland takes CJ with the first pick overall.With #23 they take a tackle like Staley or Blaylockwith # 33 they take Drew StantonI think that both teams would make out on that trade. What do you guys think?

NO sense .If they get a 2nd round pick for Moss they are very lucky.

I think KC and SD should be beating down their door if they can get Moss for a second rounder

I don't think the Chargers would trade a seventh rounder for Randy Moss. (I'm being serious.)

 

[thesurfshop19]

Great. Let's add Denver in there and complete the intradivision trade. Seriously, there is no chance that KC and Oakland will make a trade involving players of this magnitude.

Completely agreed. If the Raiders send Moss packing, it definitely won't be to Denver or KC or SD.

 

[renesauz]

I would think Oakland would trade him for just about ANYTHING at this point...a 7th rounder, or even just somebody willing to take on his contract!

 

[kellumsboys]

maybe Moss for Green and the 4th rounder might be more reasonable for both parties.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

Oakland trades Randy Moss to KC for Trent Green, their 1st round pick and their 4th round pick.Oakland takes CJ with the first pick overall.With #23 they take a tackle like Staley or Blaylockwith # 33 they take Drew StantonI think that both teams would make out on that trade. What do you guys think?

NO sense .If they get a 2nd round pick for Moss they are very lucky.

I think KC and SD should be beating down their door if they can get Moss for a second rounder

I don't think the Chargers would trade a seventh rounder for Randy Moss. (I'm being serious.)

I could see the Pats or GB trading for him, but thats about it. Thats not even considering salary cap implications.And no way he goes for more than a 3rd round draft pick. I would think a 5th would be about right.

 

[LuckyOne]

Oakland trades Randy Moss to KC for Trent Green, their 1st round pick and their 4th round pick.Oakland takes CJ with the first pick overall.With #23 they take a tackle like Staley or Blaylockwith # 33 they take Drew StantonI think that both teams would make out on that trade. What do you guys think?

Or Denver could send Bailey, Walker, Cutler and their 1st round picks this year and next.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

So you guys think he's lost his ability? I thought it was more that he didn't want to play last year. Do you think K.C. could draft a better WR at #23?

Absolutely.Moss is a lockerroom killer, doesn't block, and doesn't care about anything if he isn't the focal point.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

They'll never trade with each other, even if there is a third team involved.

 

[kensat30]

Randy Moss is pretty slow nowadays. I think even if he did get it back together and did give it 100%, he still wouldn't be even close to where he once was. The injuries took their toll.

 

[ravnzfan]

So you guys think he's lost his ability? I thought it was more that he didn't want to play last year. Do you think K.C. could draft a better WR at #23?

riddle me this, grasshopper...if they could draft a better WR @23 than Moss, why trade Green-the 1st & 4th for Moss?

so no, they in all likelyhood don't draft a WR as good (or as big a pain-in-the-###) as Moss

that said, there is some VERY NICE WR talent in this draft and KC will do very well in keeping their own #1 and drafting a WR that will be around 8 yrs longer than Moss and produce alot fewer distractions than the soap opera that is "As Randy Turns", or better, "If Randy Feels Like Playing"....Moss is not the missing piece to KC success, and certainly NOT at the expence of Green and 2 picks

 

[hutchins929]

I can see a team trading for Moss. However... IMO, the only way they give up a second round pick is if they are trading a "conditional" Draft pick. For instance: Randy Moss has a 1200 yd 10 td season they give up a second or better but, if he only has 600 yd 3 td season they give up a forth or worse. I don't see any team giving up a 2nd rounder just to have the opportunity to have Moss on their team.

 

[Milwalkeysbeast]

I think the Eagles offered their 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 7th round picks, along with a bajillion dollars, an asian "happy ending" masseuse, and Buckhalter for Randy Moss.

Anyone else think that trade makes sense?

 

[saintfool]

I can see a team trading for Moss. However... IMO, the only way they give up a second round pick is if they are trading a "conditional" Draft pick. For instance: Randy Moss has a 1200 yd 10 td season they give up a second or better but, if he only has 600 yd 3 td season they give up a forth or worse. I don't see any team giving up a 2nd rounder just to have the opportunity to have Moss on their team.

teams typically don't make those kind of deals, do they? agents of players might make those kind of incentives available when considering contract negotiations but that's about it...

 

[One]

They'll never trade with each other, even if there is a third team involved.

 

[hutchins929]

I can see a team trading for Moss. However... IMO, the only way they give up a second round pick is if they are trading a "conditional" Draft pick. For instance: Randy Moss has a 1200 yd 10 td season they give up a second or better but, if he only has 600 yd 3 td season they give up a forth or worse. I don't see any team giving up a 2nd rounder just to have the opportunity to have Moss on their team.

teams typically don't make those kind of deals, do they? agents of players might make those kind of incentives available when considering contract negotiations but that's about it...

I don't know how much it happens but it does happen. Last year Detroit traded Joey Harrington to Miami for a conditional pick.Link

"On May 12, 2006, a trade was finalized between the Miami Dolphins and the Detroit Lions. Reportedly, the Lions were given a 6th round pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, but if Harrington met certain playing time conditions with the Dolphins, the pick would be upgraded to the 5th round."

 

[prymetyme25]

Oakland trades Randy Moss to KC for Trent Green, their 1st round pick and their 4th round pick.Oakland takes CJ with the first pick overall.With #23 they take a tackle like Staley or Blaylockwith # 33 they take Drew StantonI think that both teams would make out on that trade. What do you guys think?

NO sense .If they get a 2nd round pick for Moss they are very lucky.

I think KC and SD should be beating down their door if they can get Moss for a second rounder

I would trade him for whatever you have in your pockets right now.

OMG I'm dying right now.

 

[saintfool]

I can see a team trading for Moss. However... IMO, the only way they give up a second round pick is if they are trading a "conditional" Draft pick. For instance: Randy Moss has a 1200 yd 10 td season they give up a second or better but, if he only has 600 yd 3 td season they give up a forth or worse. I don't see any team giving up a 2nd rounder just to have the opportunity to have Moss on their team.

teams typically don't make those kind of deals, do they? agents of players might make those kind of incentives available when considering contract negotiations but that's about it...

I don't know how much it happens but it does happen. Last year Detroit traded Joey Harrington to Miami for a conditional pick.Link

"On May 12, 2006, a trade was finalized between the Miami Dolphins and the Detroit Lions. Reportedly, the Lions were given a 6th round pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, but if Harrington met certain playing time conditions with the Dolphins, the pick would be upgraded to the 5th round."

playing time is one thing but performance is another, especially with regards to positions like QB.

 

[hutchins929]

I can see a team trading for Moss. However... IMO, the only way they give up a second round pick is if they are trading a "conditional" Draft pick. For instance: Randy Moss has a 1200 yd 10 td season they give up a second or better but, if he only has 600 yd 3 td season they give up a forth or worse. I don't see any team giving up a 2nd rounder just to have the opportunity to have Moss on their team.

teams typically don't make those kind of deals, do they? agents of players might make those kind of incentives available when considering contract negotiations but that's about it...

I don't know how much it happens but it does happen. Last year Detroit traded Joey Harrington to Miami for a conditional pick.Link

"On May 12, 2006, a trade was finalized between the Miami Dolphins and the Detroit Lions. Reportedly, the Lions were given a 6th round pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, but if Harrington met certain playing time conditions with the Dolphins, the pick would be upgraded to the 5th round."

playing time is one thing but performance is another, especially with regards to positions like QB.

Good Point

 

[Chadstroma]

Oakland trades Randy Moss to KC for Trent Green, their 1st round pick and their 4th round pick.

Oakland takes CJ with the first pick overall.

With #23 they take a tackle like Staley or Blaylock

with # 33 they take Drew Stanton

I think that both teams would make out on that trade. What do you guys think?

Nothing like this will ever happen or come anywhere near being a similiar deal. First, think back to KC looking for a trade with any team outside of the AFC West. Who would want T. Green there? Denver? Cutler. SD? Rivers. So, it is obvious that what KC really meant was 'we will entertain trading T. Green to any team other than Oakland'. Then consider that the KC offense seems to be one that relies on good route running and downfield blocking from it's WR's for LJ. What are two things that Moss lacks in his game? Yes, KC needs WR help. Yes, Moss is a better reciever than any WR's they currently have on their team or could get likely in draft. But is he a better fit for their system? I say no.

You further have to look at Moss' bloated contract that most organizations will not want to deal with on top of his attitude issues and possible off the field issues.

For the sake of argument- let's say both organizations wanted to do a deal. Then the value you placed on Moss here is stretching it- to understate it. Trent and a mid round pick would be close to over paying.