Of course he's going to be placed on the PUPMe too, its got to be. Since he failed the physical, can they put him on PUP?
Probably until he passes a physical.On PUP untill when?
Maybe. Maybe not.This is huge
Good info here.Probably until he passes a physical.On PUP untill when?Maybe. Maybe not.This is huge
Driver FAILED the physical. And also he has had shoulder problems since the middle of last season.If they wanted to get an extra body in camp, they would've placed someone else on PUP and allowed Driver to practice.Don't teams do this to get an extra body in camp?
Driver is going to make the team. He doesn't need to practice.So you can put him on the PUP, and bring in another flier to see if he can make the team.Driver FAILED the physical. And also he has had shoulder problems since the middle of last season.If they wanted to get an extra body in camp, they would've placed someone else on PUP and allowed Driver to practice.Don't teams do this to get an extra body in camp?
Nothing I have seen suggests anyone being too worried about this. Still not something you want to hear, but I wouldn't go trading Driver off too soon.
inexperienced WRs playing around him and the lack of a TE threat should be enough justification no?If Driver has really had this injury since last season, it might go a long way towards describing why his per-play numbers were so down last year.
No. I question how much the coverage really winds up affecting per-play numbers. I mean, if the coverage is too tough, the QB will just take the ball elsewhere. I gathered statistics (admittedly, a very, very small sample size) of WRs who went from the WR2 role to the WR1 role, and not only was there no decrease in catch%, the majority of the WRs actually INCREASED their catch%.inexperienced WRs playing around him and the lack of a TE threat should be enough justification no?If Driver has really had this injury since last season, it might go a long way towards describing why his per-play numbers were so down last year.
Favre take the ball elsewhere when he tends to make up his mind before the ball is snapped, forcing it no matter what the coverage is?SSOG said:No. I question how much the coverage really winds up affecting per-play numbers. I mean, if the coverage is too tough, the QB will just take the ball elsewhere. I gathered statistics (admittedly, a very, very small sample size) of WRs who went from the WR2 role to the WR1 role, and not only was there no decrease in catch%, the majority of the WRs actually INCREASED their catch%.Bri said:inexperienced WRs playing around him and the lack of a TE threat should be enough justification no?SSOG said:If Driver has really had this injury since last season, it might go a long way towards describing why his per-play numbers were so down last year.
Good move for now. Just make sure he is higher than Chris Chambers.I'm not an orthopod, but this worries me a little. If DD concentrated on strength training and didn't concentrate on flexibility he could have been causing minor injuries all the time, not allowing it to heal. A little scar tissue and he may have problems stretching for the ball. Who knows this could be intermittent during the season. I'm going to drop him to the bottom of his current tier as higher risk than other players in the tier.
Good move for now. Just make sure he is higher than Chris Chambers.I'm not an orthopod, but this worries me a little. If DD concentrated on strength training and didn't concentrate on flexibility he could have been causing minor injuries all the time, not allowing it to heal. A little scar tissue and he may have problems stretching for the ball. Who knows this could be intermittent during the season. I'm going to drop him to the bottom of his current tier as higher risk than other players in the tier.He is tough, but it is surprising if he needed surgery he didn't do it already. Now it's too late.
#2 to #1 part seems irrelevant hereSSOG said:No. I question how much the coverage really winds up affecting per-play numbers. I mean, if the coverage is too tough, the QB will just take the ball elsewhere. I gathered statistics (admittedly, a very, very small sample size) of WRs who went from the WR2 role to the WR1 role, and not only was there no decrease in catch%, the majority of the WRs actually INCREASED their catch%.Bri said:inexperienced WRs playing around him and the lack of a TE threat should be enough justification no?SSOG said:If Driver has really had this injury since last season, it might go a long way towards describing why his per-play numbers were so down last year.
Ruvell?The Packers have No legitimate starting RBNo legitimate starting TEand now, no legitimate starting #1 WR This just adds to the train wreck that is the Packers Offense unless things turn around quickly.If I was drafting before the end of the preseason, I would not draft any offensive players on the Pack.Bri said:Favre and McCarthy were impressed this spring with Ruvell. He studied a ton on his own and learned each WR position well. I imagine that gives them some freedom to rest the only guy with much experience, Driver.
Why? Going from a #2 to a #1 means that you face tougher coverages. I figured that was the easiest way to control for as many other variables as possible and isolate how big of an impact coverage faced has on catch%. Turns out that tougher coverages didn't result in a lower catch%, so I have a hard time excusing Driver's 53% catch% (down from 60% the year before, iirc) based on the failure of the WRs and TEs around him to draw coverage away from him.#2 to #1 part seems irrelevant hereSSOG said:No. I question how much the coverage really winds up affecting per-play numbers. I mean, if the coverage is too tough, the QB will just take the ball elsewhere. I gathered statistics (admittedly, a very, very small sample size) of WRs who went from the WR2 role to the WR1 role, and not only was there no decrease in catch%, the majority of the WRs actually INCREASED their catch%.Bri said:inexperienced WRs playing around him and the lack of a TE threat should be enough justification no?SSOG said:If Driver has really had this injury since last season, it might go a long way towards describing why his per-play numbers were so down last year.
He isn't THAT good if he's a one man show. He needs someone else to set up to take away some coverage from him.thoughts on Greg Jennings potential stat-line for 2007, if Driver is a no-show?![]()
2006http://www.packers.com/news/stories/2006/09/01/5/Why?#2 to #1 part seems irrelevant hereSSOG said:No. I question how much the coverage really winds up affecting per-play numbers. I mean, if the coverage is too tough, the QB will just take the ball elsewhere. I gathered statistics (admittedly, a very, very small sample size) of WRs who went from the WR2 role to the WR1 role, and not only was there no decrease in catch%, the majority of the WRs actually INCREASED their catch%.Bri said:inexperienced WRs playing around him and the lack of a TE threat should be enough justification no?SSOG said:If Driver has really had this injury since last season, it might go a long way towards describing why his per-play numbers were so down last year.
After the injury last year Driver kept playng. He would have played yesterday. He thinks he aggravated it lifting weoghts. Look out for James Joness in the slot this year.He isn't THAT good if he's a one man show. He needs someone else to set up to take away some coverage from him.thoughts on Greg Jennings potential stat-line for 2007, if Driver is a no-show?![]()
Drafted Driver as my #1 on Friday night & came home to this on Saturday. AHHHHHHH!After the injury last year Driver kept playng. He would have played yesterday. He thinks he aggravated it lifting weoghts. Look out for James Joness in the slot this year.He isn't THAT good if he's a one man show. He needs someone else to set up to take away some coverage from him.thoughts on Greg Jennings potential stat-line for 2007, if Driver is a no-show?![]()
don't you mean clowney?What's Houston's rook WR name?After the injury last year Driver kept playng. He would have played yesterday. He thinks he aggravated it lifting weoghts. Look out for James Joness in the slot this year.He isn't THAT good if he's a one man show. He needs someone else to set up to take away some coverage from him.thoughts on Greg Jennings potential stat-line for 2007, if Driver is a no-show?![]()
Maybe. Maybe not.Good info here.Probably until he passes a physical.On PUP untill when?Maybe. Maybe not.This is huge
jacoby jonesdon't you mean clowney?What's Houston's rook WR name?After the injury last year Driver kept playng. He would have played yesterday. He thinks he aggravated it lifting weoghts. Look out for James Joness in the slot this year.He isn't THAT good if he's a one man show. He needs someone else to set up to take away some coverage from him.thoughts on Greg Jennings potential stat-line for 2007, if Driver is a no-show?![]()
His name is James Jones. He was drafted in the epic third round WR run. They chose him BEFORE Mike Walker, Paul Williams, Johnny Lee Higgins, Andrae Allison, and David Clowney (who was their 5th round pick). Jacoby went to Houston before James in the 3rd round.James Jones is a physical stud. He is the "strongest" rookie wide receiver in the draft. He has great quicks. Gruden compared him to Sterling Sharpe, but that's Gruden. I'm a big fan of this kid. He played for lowly San Jose State, but he was dominant against Marcus McCauley, and the games I saw (3), I had a strong feeling that his game translates. He had that man among boys look about him.jacoby jonesdon't you mean clowney?What's Houston's rook WR name?After the injury last year Driver kept playng. He would have played yesterday. He thinks he aggravated it lifting weoghts. Look out for James Joness in the slot this year.He isn't THAT good if he's a one man show. He needs someone else to set up to take away some coverage from him.thoughts on Greg Jennings potential stat-line for 2007, if Driver is a no-show?
![]()
so if you've got a shoulder injury over the entire offseason, why do you wait to address it when camp begins?This makes zero sense.
Not really...what did he wait to address? It's not like he's deciding to have surgery now. It sound's like everyone involved thought off-season rest was the best thing for the shoulder. In any event it sounds like he's good to go.:Xso if you've got a shoulder injury over the entire offseason, why do you wait to address it when camp begins?This makes zero sense.
And so far Jones is impressing in camp. Ferguson has been looking good too...though he seems to look good in camp and then suck or get hurt come game time.His name is James Jones. He was drafted in the epic third round WR run. They chose him BEFORE Mike Walker, Paul Williams, Johnny Lee Higgins, Andrae Allison, and David Clowney (who was their 5th round pick). Jacoby went to Houston before James in the 3rd round.James Jones is a physical stud. He is the "strongest" rookie wide receiver in the draft. He has great quicks. Gruden compared him to Sterling Sharpe, but that's Gruden. I'm a big fan of this kid. He played for lowly San Jose State, but he was dominant against Marcus McCauley, and the games I saw (3), I had a strong feeling that his game translates. He had that man among boys look about him.jacoby jonesdon't you mean clowney?What's Houston's rook WR name?After the injury last year Driver kept playng. He would have played yesterday. He thinks he aggravated it lifting weoghts. Look out for James Joness in the slot this year.He isn't THAT good if he's a one man show. He needs someone else to set up to take away some coverage from him.thoughts on Greg Jennings potential stat-line for 2007, if Driver is a no-show?
![]()
i'd be more concerned about this part of the article if i owned Driver.“This is like doing a (field-sobriety test),” Driver said. “You think you can go up there and tell the cop you straight and not drunk and try to walk that fine line, but the next thing you know, you’re walking sideways.”