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The first five weeks, he's been ranked 9th, 10th, 9th, 7th & 8th on Dodds' final cheatsheet.

It's time to see him for what he is; a steady, possession receiver on a team with a lot of other targets. In my league's scoring system (non-PPR), he has the following totals for the first five weeks: 6, 13, 18, 5, 5. That's one excellent week, and one nice week. Does that make him a Top-10 play every week? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong... I own and like the guy. I just think he's overvalued and he gets a free pass for some reason. I personally think my young bucks like Bowe and Crayton are going to get a starting nod over Driver going forward until he explodes once or twice.

Am I off base here? Is Driver REALLY an automatic Top-10 guy every week?

 
The first five weeks, he's been ranked 9th, 10th, 9th, 7th & 8th on Dodds' final cheatsheet.

It's time to see him for what he is; a steady, possession receiver on a team with a lot of other targets. In my league's scoring system (non-PPR), he has the following totals for the first five weeks: 6, 13, 18, 5, 5. That's one excellent week, and one nice week. Does that make him a Top-10 play every week? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong... I own and like the guy. I just think he's overvalued and he gets a free pass for some reason. I personally think my young bucks like Bowe and Crayton are going to get a starting nod over Driver going forward until he explodes once or twice.

Am I off base here? Is Driver REALLY an automatic Top-10 guy every week?
Yes
 
The first five weeks, he's been ranked 9th, 10th, 9th, 7th & 8th on Dodds' final cheatsheet.

It's time to see him for what he is; a steady, possession receiver on a team with a lot of other targets. In my league's scoring system (non-PPR), he has the following totals for the first five weeks: 6, 13, 18, 5, 5. That's one excellent week, and one nice week. Does that make him a Top-10 play every week? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong... I own and like the guy. I just think he's overvalued and he gets a free pass for some reason. I personally think my young bucks like Bowe and Crayton are going to get a starting nod over Driver going forward until he explodes once or twice.

Am I off base here? Is Driver REALLY an automatic Top-10 guy every week?
Yes
Okay then. Hard to argue with your reasoning.
 
The first five weeks, he's been ranked 9th, 10th, 9th, 7th & 8th on Dodds' final cheatsheet.

It's time to see him for what he is; a steady, possession receiver on a team with a lot of other targets. In my league's scoring system (non-PPR), he has the following totals for the first five weeks: 6, 13, 18, 5, 5. That's one excellent week, and one nice week. Does that make him a Top-10 play every week? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong... I own and like the guy. I just think he's overvalued and he gets a free pass for some reason. I personally think my young bucks like Bowe and Crayton are going to get a starting nod over Driver going forward until he explodes once or twice.

Am I off base here? Is Driver REALLY an automatic Top-10 guy every week?
Yes
Okay then. Hard to argue with your reasoning.
Yes
 
The first five weeks, he's been ranked 9th, 10th, 9th, 7th & 8th on Dodds' final cheatsheet.

It's time to see him for what he is; a steady, possession receiver on a team with a lot of other targets. In my league's scoring system (non-PPR), he has the following totals for the first five weeks: 6, 13, 18, 5, 5. That's one excellent week, and one nice week. Does that make him a Top-10 play every week? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong... I own and like the guy. I just think he's overvalued and he gets a free pass for some reason. I personally think my young bucks like Bowe and Crayton are going to get a starting nod over Driver going forward until he explodes once or twice.

Am I off base here? Is Driver REALLY an automatic Top-10 guy every week?
Yes
Okay then. Hard to argue with your reasoning.
There isn't anything else to say. He has produced top 10 or so numbers as consistently as anyone. I do agree he may be ranked slightly high considering they have other options, but he is a must start in a league that requires 3 WR's.
 
The first five weeks, he's been ranked 9th, 10th, 9th, 7th & 8th on Dodds' final cheatsheet.

It's time to see him for what he is; a steady, possession receiver on a team with a lot of other targets. In my league's scoring system (non-PPR), he has the following totals for the first five weeks: 6, 13, 18, 5, 5. That's one excellent week, and one nice week. Does that make him a Top-10 play every week? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong... I own and like the guy. I just think he's overvalued and he gets a free pass for some reason. I personally think my young bucks like Bowe and Crayton are going to get a starting nod over Driver going forward until he explodes once or twice.

Am I off base here? Is Driver REALLY an automatic Top-10 guy every week?
Yes
Okay then. Hard to argue with your reasoning.
There isn't anything else to say. He has produced top 10 or so numbers as consistently as anyone. I do agree he may be ranked slightly high considering they have other options, but he is a must start in a league that requires 3 WR's.
Do most leagues start 3 WRs? (Serious question, because mine doesn't)
 
The first five weeks, he's been ranked 9th, 10th, 9th, 7th & 8th on Dodds' final cheatsheet.

It's time to see him for what he is; a steady, possession receiver on a team with a lot of other targets. In my league's scoring system (non-PPR), he has the following totals for the first five weeks: 6, 13, 18, 5, 5. That's one excellent week, and one nice week. Does that make him a Top-10 play every week? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong... I own and like the guy. I just think he's overvalued and he gets a free pass for some reason. I personally think my young bucks like Bowe and Crayton are going to get a starting nod over Driver going forward until he explodes once or twice.

Am I off base here? Is Driver REALLY an automatic Top-10 guy every week?
Yes
Okay then. Hard to argue with your reasoning.
There isn't anything else to say. He has produced top 10 or so numbers as consistently as anyone. I do agree he may be ranked slightly high considering they have other options, but he is a must start in a league that requires 3 WR's.
Do most leagues start 3 WRs? (Serious question, because mine doesn't)
All of mine do. If it's a 2 WR requirement, then I could see benching him if you were deep. My leagues our PPR as well.
 
It wasn't expected that Jones would eat into the numbers of the starting WR's out of the gate but that is what has happened. Good for Favre owners, not so good for Driver owners.

 
The first five weeks, he's been ranked 9th, 10th, 9th, 7th & 8th on Dodds' final cheatsheet.

It's time to see him for what he is; a steady, possession receiver on a team with a lot of other targets. In my league's scoring system (non-PPR), he has the following totals for the first five weeks: 6, 13, 18, 5, 5. That's one excellent week, and one nice week. Does that make him a Top-10 play every week? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong... I own and like the guy. I just think he's overvalued and he gets a free pass for some reason. I personally think my young bucks like Bowe and Crayton are going to get a starting nod over Driver going forward until he explodes once or twice.

Am I off base here? Is Driver REALLY an automatic Top-10 guy every week?
He's the 4th most targeted WR so far.
 
With a bad running game and a QB who has skills and likes to throw, Driver should be ranked in the top 10 each week. Some may say that it was and is the coaching staff that cuts into his #'s by abandoning the passing game, like this past week.

Regardless, he is a top option at wideout who excells at slant patterns and doesn't mind going over the middle. I still think he is Favres 1st target in the redzone.

 
Driver has been been banged up some early this year. He will produce good #'s again this year - he is Farve's favorite target.

 
With a bad running game and a QB who has skills and likes to throw, Driver should be ranked in the top 10 each week. Some may say that it was and is the coaching staff that cuts into his #'s by abandoning the passing game, like this past week.Regardless, he is a top option at wideout who excells at slant patterns and doesn't mind going over the middle. I still think he is Favres 1st target in the redzone.
:boxing: If Favre were blindfolded, he would still find Driver on the slant...
 
He still is putting up good numbers with having only 2 Tds. His Tds will pick up and his numbers will reflect top 10.

 
RAIDERNATION said:
The first five weeks, he's been ranked 9th, 10th, 9th, 7th & 8th on Dodds' final cheatsheet.

It's time to see him for what he is; a steady, possession receiver on a team with a lot of other targets. In my league's scoring system (non-PPR), he has the following totals for the first five weeks: 6, 13, 18, 5, 5. That's one excellent week, and one nice week. Does that make him a Top-10 play every week? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong... I own and like the guy. I just think he's overvalued and he gets a free pass for some reason. I personally think my young bucks like Bowe and Crayton are going to get a starting nod over Driver going forward until he explodes once or twice.

Am I off base here? Is Driver REALLY an automatic Top-10 guy every week?
A free pass? He has been a top 10 guy for how many years now?I agree though, a healthy Jennings will take away from his stats for sure.

But I don't think Crayton will outscore him on the year...Bowe might because of the lack of options on that team.

 
IIRC, the same thing happened last year around this time, maybe a little later on in the season. Jennings started to emerge and then outplayed Driver a couple weeks. Looked like a possible changing of the guard. I bought Driver low and he went on to have a very nice stretch run.

Deja Vu?

 
He still is putting up good numbers with having only 2 Tds. His Tds will pick up and his numbers will reflect top 10.
Why will his TDs pick up? Because they just will?
Because with Jennings back in the mix defenses cannot just focus on Driver in the redzone. Because with the 2 fumbles, do you think Favre will be hitting Jones on those slants inside the 20 much longer?
 
See this thread I started yesterday RaiderNation:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=351789

As a Driver owner myself, Im not liking him as much this year because of the return of a healthy Jennings and emergence of Jones.

Seriously eating into DD's numbers. I was going to trade him for Cotchery, but he actually has more points than JC in my league so I might stand pat and see how this week goes.

 
The first five weeks, he's been ranked 9th, 10th, 9th, 7th & 8th on Dodds' final cheatsheet.

It's time to see him for what he is; a steady, possession receiver on a team with a lot of other targets. In my league's scoring system (non-PPR), he has the following totals for the first five weeks: 6, 13, 18, 5, 5. That's one excellent week, and one nice week. Does that make him a Top-10 play every week? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong... I own and like the guy. I just think he's overvalued and he gets a free pass for some reason. I personally think my young bucks like Bowe and Crayton are going to get a starting nod over Driver going forward until he explodes once or twice.

Am I off base here? Is Driver REALLY an automatic Top-10 guy every week?
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but from what you state, he outperformed his ranking in 3 of 5 weeks. Why is it that you feel he is overvalued? 2 Top 5s? 3 top 10s?
 
The first five weeks, he's been ranked 9th, 10th, 9th, 7th & 8th on Dodds' final cheatsheet.

It's time to see him for what he is; a steady, possession receiver on a team with a lot of other targets. In my league's scoring system (non-PPR), he has the following totals for the first five weeks: 6, 13, 18, 5, 5. That's one excellent week, and one nice week. Does that make him a Top-10 play every week? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong... I own and like the guy. I just think he's overvalued and he gets a free pass for some reason. I personally think my young bucks like Bowe and Crayton are going to get a starting nod over Driver going forward until he explodes once or twice.

Am I off base here? Is Driver REALLY an automatic Top-10 guy every week?
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but from what you state, he outperformed his ranking in 3 of 5 weeks. Why is it that you feel he is overvalued? 2 Top 5s? 3 top 10s?
These are point totals, not final ranking
 
The first five weeks, he's been ranked 9th, 10th, 9th, 7th & 8th on Dodds' final cheatsheet.

It's time to see him for what he is; a steady, possession receiver on a team with a lot of other targets. In my league's scoring system (non-PPR), he has the following totals for the first five weeks: 6, 13, 18, 5, 5. That's one excellent week, and one nice week. Does that make him a Top-10 play every week? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong... I own and like the guy. I just think he's overvalued and he gets a free pass for some reason. I personally think my young bucks like Bowe and Crayton are going to get a starting nod over Driver going forward until he explodes once or twice.

Am I off base here? Is Driver REALLY an automatic Top-10 guy every week?
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but from what you state, he outperformed his ranking in 3 of 5 weeks. Why is it that you feel he is overvalued? 2 Top 5s? 3 top 10s?
These are point totals, not final ranking
:bag: I dont own Driver so I was taking this at face value without looking into itMove along, nothing to see here

 
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Driver gets ranked top 10 because he has a top 10 chance of scoring well week-to-week. Of course Crayton and Bowe and anyone else for that matter have had bigger weeks, but so what? Driver is ranked top 10 because he has better odds of posting better numbers than those guys on any given week. He's done it for years. Are you going to rank Crayton higher than T.O. because T.O. has only had ~60 yards total the last 2 weeks? If so, go for it - it's your team & your decision.

 
Driver definitely is a top 10 guy, although much more so in a PPR league since he gets a ton of catches and targets. He's on a team moving up and with a QB thats moving up. He's averaging 16.1 points in my league (PPR) and is the 13th best WR in the league. He hasn't had any breakout games yet like most of the top 10 has but as soon as he does you'll understand his top 10 status. WR's aren't always consistent and they rely on having a few multiple TD games in a given year to keep their numbers high. He just hasn't had that yet but he will. He is a must start every week for me.

 
The first five weeks, he's been ranked 9th, 10th, 9th, 7th & 8th on Dodds' final cheatsheet.

It's time to see him for what he is; a steady, possession receiver on a team with a lot of other targets. In my league's scoring system (non-PPR), he has the following totals for the first five weeks: 6, 13, 18, 5, 5. That's one excellent week, and one nice week. Does that make him a Top-10 play every week? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong... I own and like the guy. I just think he's overvalued and he gets a free pass for some reason. I personally think my young bucks like Bowe and Crayton are going to get a starting nod over Driver going forward until he explodes once or twice.

Am I off base here? Is Driver REALLY an automatic Top-10 guy every week?
So just because a guy isn't turning out top 10 numbers with your scoring system Football guys has to down grade him for everyone else? Did you customize the football gusy scoring to your league or are you just gauging everything by the football guys scoring. As with anything on the computer you have to remember Garbage in garbage out.
 
jabarony said:
Driver gets ranked top 10 because he has a top 10 chance of scoring well week-to-week. Of course Crayton and Bowe and anyone else for that matter have had bigger weeks, but so what? Driver is ranked top 10 because he has better odds of posting better numbers than those guys on any given week. He's done it for years. Are you going to rank Crayton higher than T.O. because T.O. has only had ~60 yards total the last 2 weeks? If so, go for it - it's your team & your decision.
:2cents: I agree. DD is what he is, the #1 target on a passing team who has proven year in and year out to deserve a top 10 ranking. In PPR leagues he's rock solid for sure. There's no way he's "overvalued" and getting a "free pass" as this original post stated. Is he perhaps not quite performing up to the standards that RAIDERNATION might want? Most likely yes. The targets say it all. He ranks 4th in the league in targets at 48 for the season. IN my league (PPR) he is averaging almost 16 pts per week and ranks 13th in scoring. And this is with a couple very average games in there. I'm not worried about Donald Driver at all and think he easily finishes right around 8-12 in total scoring for WR's. There's a ceiling and a floor with Driver.
 
The first five weeks, he's been ranked 9th, 10th, 9th, 7th & 8th on Dodds' final cheatsheet.

It's time to see him for what he is; a steady, possession receiver on a team with a lot of other targets. In my league's scoring system (non-PPR), he has the following totals for the first five weeks: 6, 13, 18, 5, 5. That's one excellent week, and one nice week. Does that make him a Top-10 play every week? I don't think so.
Another 3 points this week! Dude is rippin it up...
 
The first five weeks, he's been ranked 9th, 10th, 9th, 7th & 8th on Dodds' final cheatsheet.

It's time to see him for what he is; a steady, possession receiver on a team with a lot of other targets. In my league's scoring system (non-PPR), he has the following totals for the first five weeks: 6, 13, 18, 5, 5. That's one excellent week, and one nice week. Does that make him a Top-10 play every week? I don't think so.
Another 3 points this week! Dude is rippin it up...
So after this week he's overperformed his rankings 3 times and underperformed them 3 times. I'm unsure exactly what you're getting at here.
 
The first five weeks, he's been ranked 9th, 10th, 9th, 7th & 8th on Dodds' final cheatsheet.

It's time to see him for what he is; a steady, possession receiver on a team with a lot of other targets. In my league's scoring system (non-PPR), he has the following totals for the first five weeks: 6, 13, 18, 5, 5. That's one excellent week, and one nice week. Does that make him a Top-10 play every week? I don't think so.
Another 3 points this week! Dude is rippin it up...
So after this week he's overperformed his rankings 3 times and underperformed them 3 times. I'm unsure exactly what you're getting at here.
:shrug: 6/13/18/5/5/3 isn't his final ranking for the week. It's his point totals for the week.

My point is he is living on reputation, and should be ranked no higher than 18-20 most weeks.

 
I can think of about 50 players I'd complain about performance-wise before Driver's name would even enter my mind.
So you're pleased with his production lately?
Yeah. I'm 5-1 in my league and he gets me consistent points every week. I didn't draft the guy to carry my team. You're never gonna have a player at every spot who you count on to score 20+ points every week. I have Driver because he's a rock and he's not gonna hurt my chances.
 
I just looked it up and Driver is 15th in scoring at WR in my league coming into the week. I'll take that all day. And he hasn't even hit his stride yet. Looking that number up just reaffirmed my confidence in him.

 
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I just looked it up and Driver is 15th in scoring at WR in my league coming into the week. I'll take that all day. And he hasn't even hit his stride yet. Looking that number up just reaffirmed my confidence in him.
Yours has to be a PPR league, yes? In my league, he's just another guy. :goodposting:
 
I just looked it up and Driver is 15th in scoring at WR in my league coming into the week. I'll take that all day. And he hasn't even hit his stride yet. Looking that number up just reaffirmed my confidence in him.
Yours has to be a PPR league, yes? In my league, he's just another guy. :goodposting:
Nope...not a ppr league.Also, I just looked up where I drafted him. I took him as the 15th WR off the board and as I said before, 15th is his exact scoring ranking coming into this week. He's been spot on so far. And I fully believe that his best performances in '07 are yet to come.
 
I just looked it up and Driver is 15th in scoring at WR in my league coming into the week. I'll take that all day. And he hasn't even hit his stride yet. Looking that number up just reaffirmed my confidence in him.
Yours has to be a PPR league, yes? In my league, he's just another guy. :goodposting:
Nope...not a ppr league.Also, I just looked up where I drafted him. I took him as the 15th WR off the board and as I said before, 15th is his exact scoring ranking coming into this week. He's been spot on so far. And I fully believe that his best performances in '07 are yet to come.
I hope you're right. Luckily, I'm in a position where I can sit him until he shows me something.It's still worrysome that Green Bay has so many nice targets. And what happens when the weather turns bad?
 
I don't remember the weather really hurting Driver in the past. He's just a solid player. Don't expect him to carry you and you'll be fine. He's not gonna burn you very often and occasionally he'll put up a 20 point performance and help you win a game.

 
Here were his point totals the last 6 weeks of 2006 in my other league...

Week 12 - 15.65

Week 13 - 10.85

Week 14 - 24.25

Week 15 - 9.45

Week 16 - 12.15

Week 17 - 9.05

Pretty solid and consistent. It doesn't look like November / December weather adversely affected him. Btw these numbers are from the other league I'm in. I don't have Driver in this league. But I will note that coming into this week he's 14th in scoring at WR.

 
The first five weeks, he's been ranked 9th, 10th, 9th, 7th & 8th on Dodds' final cheatsheet.

It's time to see him for what he is; a steady, possession receiver on a team with a lot of other targets. In my league's scoring system (non-PPR), he has the following totals for the first five weeks: 6, 13, 18, 5, 5. That's one excellent week, and one nice week. Does that make him a Top-10 play every week? I don't think so.

Don't get me wrong... I own and like the guy. I just think he's overvalued and he gets a free pass for some reason. I personally think my young bucks like Bowe and Crayton are going to get a starting nod over Driver going forward until he explodes once or twice.

Am I off base here? Is Driver REALLY an automatic Top-10 guy every week?
Automatic. Nothing's automatic in the NFL not even LT.

 
I can think of about 50 players I'd complain about performance-wise before Driver's name would even enter my mind.
So you're pleased with his production lately?
Well, Im with you R-Nation!Luckily, I have Wayne and Roy-W so unless I have too many RB's on a bye or injuries, Ill have a RB in that spot for the season.Other than those 2 weeks, he hasn't gotten over 60 yards the 4 other weeks. I don't think he even had a RZ target today, and wouldnt be surprised to see the target info tomorrow with Driver being targeted the least amount of any game so far this year.Quite simply, looking at his production late last year isn't valid. They had a better running game (slightly), Jennings was injured or ineffective, and James Jones was playing college FBI was surprised he was 14th going into this week in my league as well, but at this point in the year there's about 10 guys within 5 less points than him. He almost surely dropped out of the Top 20 with that clunker today.Im a firm believer that he won't end the season better than WR24, definitely no higher than 20
 
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