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Donnie Avery (1 Viewer)

biggamer3

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Caught 3 passes last game and has been elevated to starter per Rotoworld:

The Rams have elevated rookie WR Donnie Avery to the starting lineup over Dane Looker and Eddie Kennison.

More shakeup in St. Louis, although the Rams don't have many options. Avery was a reach as the first wideout taken in the draft and has hardly proven people wrong after a lost preseason. But he caught three passes in Week 3 and offers some speed. We wouldn't touch him except for in the deepest of fantasy leagues.

 
I see he is available in 99% of leagues
There is a reason he is still available.... the StL Passing game does not exist. Just ask T Holt owners. Until they show something, there is little reason to pick up this rookie WR... even if he was the 1st WR pick in the April draft.
 
If you play only week to week don't grab him, but if you play for the playoffs remember he was the 1st rookie WR taken and St L will be playing from behind this season. I'm putting him on my bench in 2 leagues.

 
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From NFL Draft Guys: http://nfldraftguys.com/rankings/08_garda_wr.php

9- Donnie Avery , Houston - Avery is a good overall athlete, with enough burst to beat corners off the line, soft hands and good overall ball skills and body control. Is a great special teams guy. He isn’t that strong though, and struggles at the line when jammed. Not the most physical player.

From NFL.com

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/donnie-a...le-tab-analysis

Analysis

Positives: Has a lean frame with solid muscle tone and can add more bulk without having it hinder his timed speed...Possesses large hands, a tight abdomen, good bubble, a bit high-cut, but shows developed thighs and calves...Has impressive strength for a player his size, but the weight room numbers don't always translate to the playing field...Displays blazing speed, quick feet, and excellent explosiveness and change-of-direction agility...Plays with very good awareness, showing the ability to adjust to coverage without having to throttle down...Has generated good production catching the ball outside his framework...Sometimes looks a little tight in his lower base, but is generally an agile and elusive route runner who can rack up yardage after the catch if he is able to elude the initial tackle...Has good hands and body control, and the necessary ball skills to make the tough catch...Has improved his concentration lapses catching in a crowd, but is still a work in progress...Big-play type who works hard to protect the ball after the catch...Quick-twitch type with suddenness...When not challenged, he is very sudden getting into his routes...Does a nice job of working back to the ball when his quarterback is under pressure...Shows crisp speed-cut moves, doing a nice job of dropping his pads and accelerating out of his breaks...Shows fluid body moves timing his leaps and extending for the ball along the boundaries...His change-of-direction agility and body control usually leave second-level defenders grabbing at air...Good zone route runner who demonstrates excellent awareness along the boundary...Finds the soft spots in zone coverage, executing crisp double moves in his route to elude and can easily gobble up the cushion and run by the defenders vs. the level of competition he has faced...Plays the game hard and is not afraid to lay out for a ball or take a big hit...A vocal leader who sets a good example for other players by doing extra work in the weight room and in position drills...Gets upfield quickly using good burst and acceleration, as well as a clean release at the line of scrimmage...Freezes defenders off the line with excellent suddenness and change-of-direction agility...Has enough functional strength to push defensive backs out of their backpedal...Displays an outstanding ability to drop his weight quickly, getting in and out of cuts crisply...Creates good separation with his outstanding playing speed and runs crisp routes, using a good center of gravity to make his cuts...Has the quick feet to plant and make the initial tackler miss...Demonstrates good timing to challenge for the pass at its high point...Will cradle the ball at times, but works hard to get good placement...Can pluck the ball away from his body and reacts quickly to the ball in flight, showing good ability to dig out low throws...Can take the ball all the way when he's out in front of a defense...Very creative on the move and does a good job of holding on to the ball after colliding with the defender...Has very good torso flexibility on returns and also possesses the speed, elusiveness, and agility to be a good return specialist at the next level.

Negatives: Has a muscular frame, but lacks the ideal bulk and size to get physical with defenders competing for the ball in a crowd...Has very good suddenness when he gets a clean release off the line, but vs. the press, he dances around too much to get into his route quickly...Has had concentration lapses, mostly when having to catch in tight areas, when he hears the defender's footsteps...Needs to be more alert to low tackles, as he is easily tripped up in the open (needs to sidestep better)...Has good elusiveness after the catch, but is prone to running into spots...Will go for the ball in a crowd, but gets ping-ponged often, resulting in a failure to get to those throws...More of a pest-type blocker, as his weight-room strength does not translate to the field...Will get pushed back by a bull rush when blocking on the line...Has had poor production inside the red zone.

Compares To: KEVIN CURTIS-Philadelphia...Avery's suddenness into his routes have some comparing him to Buffalo's Lee Evans, but Avery's run-after-catch skills aren't first-rate and he's easily tripped up by low tackles. Avery's quickness is world-class. He has outstanding change-of-direction agility and does an excellent job of working his feet along the sideline. His speed allows him to create separation, but he must learn to get a better push vs. the jam, as he will dance around too much in attempts to escape the press. He is a quality kickoff returner, but not in the Devin Hester mold. Still, he will be a significant contributor as a return specialist. In a multiple-receiver formation, Avery instantly provides a team with a valid deep threat on the outside.

 
From NFL.com

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/donnie-a...le-tab-analysis

Analysis

Positives: Has a lean frame with solid muscle tone and can add more bulk without having it hinder his timed speed...Possesses large hands, a tight abdomen, good bubble, a bit high-cut, but shows developed thighs and calves...
Alright I've hung around the iron, take a mild interest in bodybuilding, and know enough of human anatomy to not appear completely stupid, but what in the world does the bolded stuff mean? TIA
 
Guys who can't beat the jam scare me......cough....cough...Ted....cough..cough....Gi..cough....Ginn....cough

I think I'll pass on D-Ave....at least in redrafts.....

 
From NFL.com

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/donnie-a...le-tab-analysis

Analysis

Positives: Has a lean frame with solid muscle tone and can add more bulk without having it hinder his timed speed...Possesses large hands, a tight abdomen, good bubble, a bit high-cut, but shows developed thighs and calves...
Alright I've hung around the iron, take a mild interest in bodybuilding, and know enough of human anatomy to not appear completely stupid, but what in the world does the bolded stuff mean? TIA
No ####. That stuff cracks me up. :rolleyes: I don't know what's worse, the analysis; or FF nerds analysis of the analysis. :shrug:
 
From NFL.com

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/donnie-a...le-tab-analysis

Analysis

Positives: Has a lean frame with solid muscle tone and can add more bulk without having it hinder his timed speed...Possesses large hands, a tight abdomen, good bubble, a bit high-cut, but shows developed thighs and calves...
Alright I've hung around the iron, take a mild interest in bodybuilding, and know enough of human anatomy to not appear completely stupid, but what in the world does the bolded stuff mean? TIA
No ####. That stuff cracks me up. :thumbup: I don't know what's worse, the analysis; or FF nerds analysis of the analysis. :excited:
High-cut - high-waisted; having long legs and a short upper body.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/...grading_system/

 
From NFL.com

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/donnie-a...le-tab-analysis

Analysis

Positives: Has a lean frame with solid muscle tone and can add more bulk without having it hinder his timed speed...Possesses large hands, a tight abdomen, good bubble, a bit high-cut, but shows developed thighs and calves...
Alright I've hung around the iron, take a mild interest in bodybuilding, and know enough of human anatomy to not appear completely stupid, but what in the world does the bolded stuff mean? TIA
bubble = butt, high cut= longer legs and short torso

:thumbup:

 
Guys who can't beat the jam scare me......cough....cough...Ted....cough..cough....Gi..cough....Ginn....coughI think I'll pass on D-Ave....at least in redrafts.....
Everyone expected DeSean Jackson and Eddie Royal to have trouble with the jam in the NFL, and things have worked out for them. I wouldn't be so quick to write Avery off simply because of he's not a big receiver.
 
From NFL.com

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/donnie-a...le-tab-analysis

Analysis

Positives: Has a lean frame with solid muscle tone and can add more bulk without having it hinder his timed speed...Possesses large hands, a tight abdomen, good bubble, a bit high-cut, but shows developed thighs and calves...
Alright I've hung around the iron, take a mild interest in bodybuilding, and know enough of human anatomy to not appear completely stupid, but what in the world does the bolded stuff mean? TIA
Jeez man, you must have HORRIBLE bubble then. :excited:
 
I lol'd. Avery isn't even the best rookie receiver the Rams drafted. I am shocked anyone would consider picking him or any non redrafted Ram up, espescially without him proving a blasted thing in pre or regular season.

 
From NFL.com

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/donnie-a...le-tab-analysis

Analysis

Positives: Has a lean frame with solid muscle tone and can add more bulk without having it hinder his timed speed...Possesses large hands, a tight abdomen, good bubble, a bit high-cut, but shows developed thighs and calves...
Alright I've hung around the iron, take a mild interest in bodybuilding, and know enough of human anatomy to not appear completely stupid, but what in the world does the bolded stuff mean? TIA
Jeez man, you must have HORRIBLE bubble then. :moneybag:
Wow, that really bursts my bubble. :unsure:
 
From NFL.com

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/donnie-a...le-tab-analysis

Analysis

Positives: Has a lean frame with solid muscle tone and can add more bulk without having it hinder his timed speed...Possesses large hands, a tight abdomen, good bubble, a bit high-cut, but shows developed thighs and calves...
Alright I've hung around the iron, take a mild interest in bodybuilding, and know enough of human anatomy to not appear completely stupid, but what in the world does the bolded stuff mean? TIA
No ####. That stuff cracks me up. :moneybag: I don't know what's worse, the analysis; or FF nerds analysis of the analysis. :unsure:
High-cut - high-waisted; having long legs and a short upper body.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/...grading_system/
I know, I find it a little over the top. It especially cracks me up in ff.
 
Guys who can't beat the jam scare me......cough....cough...Ted....cough..cough....Gi..cough....Ginn....coughI think I'll pass on D-Ave....at least in redrafts.....
Everyone expected DeSean Jackson and Eddie Royal to have trouble with the jam in the NFL, and things have worked out for them. I wouldn't be so quick to write Avery off simply because of he's not a big receiver.
I don't know about everyone as I was high on D-Jax from the very beginning, not so much on Royal. Although once I saw that Royal put up 24 reps (225 lbs.) at the combine, I wasn't worried about him beating jams......For DeSean, his route-running, cat-like quickness, and change-of-direction agility allows him to beat guys right from the snap.......and the Eagles are also smart enough to move this guy around a lot and also put him in motion often enough to keep the CBs off the line of scrimmage....... From what I've seen (NFL action and on college film) and what I've read, D-Ave is not on either D-Jax's or Royal's level (at least not yet) in terms of polish and understanding of the game....Good luck with this guy, but I'm not buying.......at least not yet.... :confused:
 
From NFL.com

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/donnie-a...le-tab-analysis

Analysis

Positives: Has a lean frame with solid muscle tone and can add more bulk without having it hinder his timed speed...Possesses large hands, a tight abdomen, good bubble, a bit high-cut, but shows developed thighs and calves...
Alright I've hung around the iron, take a mild interest in bodybuilding, and know enough of human anatomy to not appear completely stupid, but what in the world does the bolded stuff mean? TIA
Jeez man, you must have HORRIBLE bubble then. :rant:
Wow, that really bursts my bubble. :lmao:
Hmmm, now that I know bubble, I guess I have pretty flat bubble. Better take that off my resume.
 
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Apparently according to saint louis media he has a touchdown celebration planned for this week, and plans for everyone to see it. :lmao:

 
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Terrible OL won't allow Avery or any WR to really benefit this year. ESPECIALLY with TRENT GREEN STARTING!

I'll be watching the Bills/Rams game so if I see anything I'll definitely post here about it, but I wouldn't expect to see much.

 
Kid appears to have some nice upside. In a first year dynasty, I was able to scoop him up in about week 3 or something. None of the owners in the leauge have ever been in a dynasty before this one so he was just wallowing out there. I inserted Avery this week and I couldn't be happier. He had two near misses and appears to be a big part of what the Rams are trying to do.

 
This guys is starting to look very good. I watched a bit of him today, and he seemed very crisp in his routes and plays unlike a rookie. He certainly looks like he belongs and may end up being a big-time wr in this league.

 
He did look great & seems to be getting more plays than Holt. I picked him up this week to possibly start week 8 when I have 3 WRs on byes. Looks like I have a solid 1-week starter at worst, and potentially a new WR3.

 
DA ran a 4.26 at University of Houston's pro day as a junior. The kid can absolutely fly.

I figured he would do decent this season, since it appeared the Rams would be down at the half in most games and throwing a bunch to try and catch up.

He is a bigger, less cocky/idiotic DeSean Jackson.

 
From a fantasy perspective, he's clearly the No. 1 WR on the Rams. I think Avery could be a very good WR3 with WR2 upside the remainder of the season. The Rams have some great matchups and there's no reason to think Holt will do anything. Avery could be huge the rest of the way.

 
As a Holt owner I am thinking about dropping him, he's been useless
I'm a Holt owner and I'm definitely dropping him this week. There are dozens of WRs who can put up his numbers each week. He's no longer anything special. I'd rather have a WR who is producing at a quality level and has some serious upside.Someone like Donnie Avery.
 

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