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Donovan McNabb & Andy Reid: a heart to heart (1 Viewer)

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from our friends at PFT

McNABB, REID GET TOGETHER

Sal Paolantonio of ESPN reported on Tuesday night that Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb and coach Andy Reid had an extended "heart-to-heart" discussion on Tuesday regarding the team's decision to select quarterback Kevin Kolb in the second round of the 2007 draft, and what the move means.

It was the first time they had talked since Reid left McNabb a voice message on Saturday telling the veteran quarterback "not to worry."

Apparently, McNabb wasn't worried -- he was pissed off. :hot:

Paolantonio says that the specific content of the discussion is unknown, but that it was described as "frank and open" by someone who was not in the room for the meeting.

Reid is expected to speak to the media on May 12. McNabb could talk to reporters then, or he might choose to wait until training camp.

Now, for our take on this whole ordeal.

Can someone tell us when Donovan McNabb became the coach, G.M., president, or owner of this team? Because we missed the news release.

Why does McNabb have this organization clutched by the short and curlies? The mere fact that the organization feels compelled to walk on eggshells :unsure: around him makes us think that the time has come for a change.

And why should McNabb get a double-extra helping of deference from the team, the media, or anyone? Because of the Super Bowls he has won? :thumbup: Because of the MVP awards on his mantle? :scared:

In our view, McNabb is a good quarterback with periodic flashes of greatnesses but who has yet to deliver when it counts the most, :thumbup: and whose body gives out on him too frequently :wall: for him to be the long-term solution for a team that is securing its young talent well into the next decade.

The fans simply want a winning team, and an NFL championship would be nice. McNabb is becoming too much of a distraction, both due to his quiet-but-obvious selfishness and his proneness to injury.

Think about the comments that periodically come from his parents :blush: . Surely, McNabb has the ability to get them to put a sock in it, if he so chooses. By not telling them to mind their business, McNabb is creating the impression that they are his messengers as to subjects on which he's not ready to get his hands dirty.

The mere fact that the team drafted Kolb tells us that the organization has at least had the internal conversation as to whether McNabb is the long-term solution. The manner in which McNabb reacts to this latest development :cry: could go a long way toward helping the powers-that-be make their decision.

 
I don't understand why he'd be worried. He's one of the best QBs in the league when healthy.

Reid comes from a system that always makes sure there is a capable backup at the QB position. See Bill Walsh, Mike Holmgren, Ron Wolf....

 
McNabb needs to chill the #### out.

How many times has he been hurt the past few years?

It's still a team game and the team doesn't solely revolve around #5. I like McNabb's skills but I think he's a bad leader for the team.

Also, I read that Brady restructured his contract in order to bring Moss to town. Do you think McNabb would have done that?

 
Maybe Terrell Owens wasn't 100% wrong.
That is precisely what I was thinking....The more whiny McNabb becomes the more he gives credence to T.O's statements about him. Im sure he was upset when Garcia came in and the team didn't miss a beat. I have always thought his leadership on the team was suspect and maybe it's cause he is insecure?
 
Also, I read that Brady restructured his contract in order to bring Moss to town. Do you think McNabb would have done that?
Any good starting NFL QB would restructure his contract to help the team when asked - the QB doesn't lose any money in the deal - the salary turns into a bonus which spreads out that money towards the cap over several years.
 
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Ozzy this is getting good real good.

Andy has been a blessing to Eagles fans for having to put up with all the primadonna attitudes in my opinion yet how many Championship games and division titles has Philadelphia had? I am sure that most fans would love to be in that position every year. Yes it is hard when they dont make it to the big dance but people should stop :mellow: and look at how exciting they have had things. Throw out the bad publicity between McNabb and T.O. and Eagles fans may actually start to realize that they both contributed and it was not a one sided ordeal as portrayed by all the media.

 
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Maybe Terrell Owens wasn't 100% wrong.
:lmao: Tried to tell ya so then, but no one wanted to hear it. Reid isn't guiltless either, but he gets portrayed that way. Reid is a tough SOB.FWIW Also keep telling anyone who will listen that TO has been a great teammate since he got to Dallas by any source you can find. (and he happens to be having a good offseason by all accounts).
 
I like McNabb. I really do. He's put up with a LOT of crap from Philly fans since Day 1. But he has an unbelievably fragile ego. He needs to grow a pair and take ownership of his role on the team. Either be a leader and act like it's your team or step aside and let a real leader step in.

 
i'm confused. eagles fans were pissed because they didn't use their first pick to help the team this year. as far as we know, McNabb is pissed for the same reason.

so the fans agree with McNabb but then he is labled as crying? i don't get it.

 
I'm probably one of the few that really liked the pick. Most QBs sit a year or two at the beginning of their career anyway. Why wait until McNabb is washed up in order to pick up the QB of the future. If they were that high on him, then I think it was a good pick.

 
I'm probably one of the few that really liked the pick. Most QBs sit a year or two at the beginning of their career anyway. Why wait until McNabb is washed up in order to pick up the QB of the future. If they were that high on him, then I think it was a good pick.
Agreed. Its also apparent McNabb has at least some proclivity to getting injured.As good as another (Garcia) played for the Eagles it was the $ that was an issue in keeping him. Kolb doesnt have the $ issue where he was drafted and will get 4-5 years on contract.Look like a pretty heady move by the Eagles if they really like Kolb.The Eagle fans are upset because they want (and need) to believe in McNabb.
 
I'm probably one of the few that really liked the pick. Most QBs sit a year or two at the beginning of their career anyway. Why wait until McNabb is washed up in order to pick up the QB of the future. If they were that high on him, then I think it was a good pick.
I agree that it was a good pick.This thread is about MaNabb crying over it.And regarding the comparison to the fans being upset - Maybe you would be right IF he didn't play MaNabbs position. Coming to managment and complaining about the competition they bring in to replace you is different. Not his place.
 
If McNabb could stay healthy for 16 games he wouldn't have to worry about it.

Also, he needs to tell his parents to ####...they are not helping their son out by opening their pieholes.

 
They really didn't add anything on the offensive side to help him out, except a below-average TE. If anything, he should be pissed. They haven't done anything to give him any support.

 
we should have a pft forum so I dont have to sift through bs like this

its like the national enquirer

 
As an Eagles fan, I can't blame McNabb for being pissed. Drafting a QB in the 2nd round doesn't help the 2007 team win in any way, shape or form. Donnie isn't the GM, he's not the coach...it's not his job to worry about 2008, 2009, 2010 any more than it is for we ticket holders.

 
I'm probably one of the few that really liked the pick. Most QBs sit a year or two at the beginning of their career anyway. Why wait until McNabb is washed up in order to pick up the QB of the future. If they were that high on him, then I think it was a good pick.
I agree that it was a good pick.This thread is about MaNabb crying over it.

And regarding the comparison to the fans being upset - Maybe you would be right IF he didn't play MaNabbs position. Coming to managment and complaining about the competition they bring in to replace you is different. Not his place.
:banned:
 
As an Eagles fan, I can't blame McNabb for being pissed. Drafting a QB in the 2nd round doesn't help the 2007 team win in any way, shape or form. Donnie isn't the GM, he's not the coach...it's not his job to worry about 2008, 2009, 2010 any more than it is for we ticket holders.
XIt very well may if McNabb cant stay on the field.

 
wow. that might be the worst piece of garbage i've ever read.

same for all the comment claiming mcnabb to be selfish and TO was right. absolutely 100% ridiculous. mcnabb hasn't even said anything. this is all speculation from someone who apparently wasn't even in the room and you guys are all trashing him? what the #### is wrong with you guys?

from getting booed on draft day to the rush thing, to the TO problems, McNabb has pretty much been 1st class all the way. for as much as everyone says all he does is whines, i haven't seen any quotes. maybe a few with Owens, but that, to my memory, was mostly him telling Owens not to talk about his family. I hear people say that McNabb still complains about being booed- when? Can someone please give me a recent quote in which he whines about it? Supposedly it's been nearly every day since he's been drafted, so there should be somewhere around 1,000 quotes of him just whining, right?

When McNabb is playing well everyone, analysts, writers, fans, and most of you, are all over what a great player and leader he is. Now some unknown person who wasnt in the room claims McNabb is upset and you're all gonna dump all over him?

Absolutely pathetic.

 
As an Eagles fan, I can't blame McNabb for being pissed. Drafting a QB in the 2nd round doesn't help the 2007 team win in any way, shape or form. Donnie isn't the GM, he's not the coach...it's not his job to worry about 2008, 2009, 2010 any more than it is for we ticket holders.
XIt very well may if McNabb cant stay on the field.
Highly HIGHLY unlikely that AJ gets hurt too, or that Kolb surpasses him.
 
As an Eagles fan, I can't blame McNabb for being pissed. Drafting a QB in the 2nd round doesn't help the 2007 team win in any way, shape or form. Donnie isn't the GM, he's not the coach...it's not his job to worry about 2008, 2009, 2010 any more than it is for we ticket holders.
XIt very well may if McNabb cant stay on the field.
Seriously. Jason, how could you say that with a straight face? McNabb has missed how many games in the last few years? PS - great use of emoticons in the article...

 
TheLastDispatch said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Jason Wood said:
As an Eagles fan, I can't blame McNabb for being pissed. Drafting a QB in the 2nd round doesn't help the 2007 team win in any way, shape or form. Donnie isn't the GM, he's not the coach...it's not his job to worry about 2008, 2009, 2010 any more than it is for we ticket holders.
XIt very well may if McNabb cant stay on the field.
Highly HIGHLY unlikely that AJ gets hurt too, or that Kolb surpasses him.
Its highly likely that he could replace AJ come mid season.AJ? You could replace AJ. Myabe unlikely by the time camp breaks.

 
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TheLastDispatch said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Jason Wood said:
As an Eagles fan, I can't blame McNabb for being pissed. Drafting a QB in the 2nd round doesn't help the 2007 team win in any way, shape or form. Donnie isn't the GM, he's not the coach...it's not his job to worry about 2008, 2009, 2010 any more than it is for we ticket holders.
XIt very well may if McNabb cant stay on the field.
Highly HIGHLY unlikely that AJ gets hurt too, or that Kolb surpasses him.
Its highly likely that he could replace AJ come mid season.AJ? You could replace AJ. Myabe unlikely by the time camp breaks.
:( AJ has experience in our offense and with a very complicated playbook. He shredded ATLs defense last year with our 2nd stringers. Granted that was ATL, he still excelled with the given opportunities. He's backed up McNabb in the past as well and was successful. Kolb is coming in as a rookie and the number 3 on a team with a very complex playbook. If McNabb went down, IF, AJ would be put in. For Kolb to get his chance, AJ would either have to get hurt or absolutely suck. And then Kolb would have to excel with his opportunity. Otherwise, there's no chance he gets #2 ahead of AJ and Holcomb.

 
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gman8343 said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Jason Wood said:
As an Eagles fan, I can't blame McNabb for being pissed. Drafting a QB in the 2nd round doesn't help the 2007 team win in any way, shape or form. Donnie isn't the GM, he's not the coach...it's not his job to worry about 2008, 2009, 2010 any more than it is for we ticket holders.
XIt very well may if McNabb cant stay on the field.
Seriously. Jason, how could you say that with a straight face? McNabb has missed how many games in the last few years? PS - great use of emoticons in the article...
Because Kevin Kolb won't see the field unless McNabb AND A.J. Feeley get hurt. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
 
gman8343 said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Jason Wood said:
As an Eagles fan, I can't blame McNabb for being pissed. Drafting a QB in the 2nd round doesn't help the 2007 team win in any way, shape or form. Donnie isn't the GM, he's not the coach...it's not his job to worry about 2008, 2009, 2010 any more than it is for we ticket holders.
XIt very well may if McNabb cant stay on the field.
Seriously. Jason, how could you say that with a straight face? McNabb has missed how many games in the last few years? PS - great use of emoticons in the article...
Because Kevin Kolb won't see the field unless McNabb AND A.J. Feeley get hurt. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
Because AJ isnt very good.
 
This meeting is pathetic. Off the top of my head - The drafted QBs Brett Favre has sent packing since he has been in GB - Mark Brunell, Ty Detmer, Arron Brooks, and Matt Hasselbeck.

 
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I'm sorry, but the only facts I see in that article are that McNabb and Reid had a "frank and open" conversation as reported by Sal Palantonio. I'm not going to throw McNabb under the bus based on the PFT interpretation of what happened afterward.

 
TheLastDispatch said:
wow. that might be the worst piece of garbage i've ever read.

same for all the comment claiming mcnabb to be selfish and TO was right. absolutely 100% ridiculous. mcnabb hasn't even said anything. this is all speculation from someone who apparently wasn't even in the room and you guys are all trashing him? what the #### is wrong with you guys?

from getting booed on draft day to the rush thing, to the TO problems, McNabb has pretty much been 1st class all the way. for as much as everyone says all he does is whines, i haven't seen any quotes. maybe a few with Owens, but that, to my memory, was mostly him telling Owens not to talk about his family. I hear people say that McNabb still complains about being booed- when? Can someone please give me a recent quote in which he whines about it? Supposedly it's been nearly every day since he's been drafted, so there should be somewhere around 1,000 quotes of him just whining, right?

When McNabb is playing well everyone, analysts, writers, fans, and most of you, are all over what a great player and leader he is. Now some unknown person who wasnt in the room claims McNabb is upset and you're all gonna dump all over him?

Absolutely pathetic.
Yeah, but.....I'm a Dallas fan. I'm supposed to :unsure: :bag: :no:
 
TheLastDispatch said:
wow. that might be the worst piece of garbage i've ever read.same for all the comment claiming mcnabb to be selfish and TO was right. absolutely 100% ridiculous. mcnabb hasn't even said anything. this is all speculation from someone who apparently wasn't even in the room and you guys are all trashing him? what the #### is wrong with you guys?from getting booed on draft day to the rush thing, to the TO problems, McNabb has pretty much been 1st class all the way. for as much as everyone says all he does is whines, i haven't seen any quotes. maybe a few with Owens, but that, to my memory, was mostly him telling Owens not to talk about his family. I hear people say that McNabb still complains about being booed- when? Can someone please give me a recent quote in which he whines about it? Supposedly it's been nearly every day since he's been drafted, so there should be somewhere around 1,000 quotes of him just whining, right?When McNabb is playing well everyone, analysts, writers, fans, and most of you, are all over what a great player and leader he is. Now some unknown person who wasnt in the room claims McNabb is upset and you're all gonna dump all over him?Absolutely pathetic.
:D I would probably agree with most of hte comments in this thread if McNabb was actually pissed or whining but I have yet to see any signs that he is other than this poorly sourced article. Although he now has some help, McNabb has carried the offense through the early years of Reid's reign with subpar supporting talent so I'm prone to give him the benefit of the doubt when hearsay is involved.That being said, I'm growing to like the Kolb pick, just not the controversy that I knew it would generate.
 
TheLastDispatch said:
wow. that might be the worst piece of garbage i've ever read.

same for all the comment claiming mcnabb to be selfish and TO was right. absolutely 100% ridiculous. mcnabb hasn't even said anything. this is all speculation from someone who apparently wasn't even in the room and you guys are all trashing him? what the #### is wrong with you guys?

from getting booed on draft day to the rush thing, to the TO problems, McNabb has pretty much been 1st class all the way. for as much as everyone says all he does is whines, i haven't seen any quotes. maybe a few with Owens, but that, to my memory, was mostly him telling Owens not to talk about his family. I hear people say that McNabb still complains about being booed- when? Can someone please give me a recent quote in which he whines about it? Supposedly it's been nearly every day since he's been drafted, so there should be somewhere around 1,000 quotes of him just whining, right?

When McNabb is playing well everyone, analysts, writers, fans, and most of you, are all over what a great player and leader he is. Now some unknown person who wasnt in the room claims McNabb is upset and you're all gonna dump all over him?

Absolutely pathetic.
First of all NO ONE outside of T.O is going to get on their soapbox at a press conference and complain about anything in the open media....especially when someone gets drafted at your position. The "fact" that you are seeing these stories of Andy Reid having to "talk" to Mcnabb or "reassure" him that the Eagles still love him speak volumes. T.O said some outlandish crap, but he also said somethings that only someone in that locker room would know. If he is so insecure to have his head coach caress his head and tell him it will be alright then to me he needs to cowboy the F up. He isn't the only QB to have competition....Im sure Joe Montana didn't have to have Bill Walsh console him after picking up Steve Young. This is the NFL...And I will admit I NEVER liked Mcnabb from college to pro's. I don't dismiss his talent or his accomplishments but I think he is overrated. But that is me....but these reports just don't come out of nowhere....and if you looking for some other media reports here is one for you...

Article

 
TheLastDispatch said:
wow. that might be the worst piece of garbage i've ever read.

same for all the comment claiming mcnabb to be selfish and TO was right. absolutely 100% ridiculous. mcnabb hasn't even said anything. this is all speculation from someone who apparently wasn't even in the room and you guys are all trashing him? what the #### is wrong with you guys?

from getting booed on draft day to the rush thing, to the TO problems, McNabb has pretty much been 1st class all the way. for as much as everyone says all he does is whines, i haven't seen any quotes. maybe a few with Owens, but that, to my memory, was mostly him telling Owens not to talk about his family. I hear people say that McNabb still complains about being booed- when? Can someone please give me a recent quote in which he whines about it? Supposedly it's been nearly every day since he's been drafted, so there should be somewhere around 1,000 quotes of him just whining, right?

When McNabb is playing well everyone, analysts, writers, fans, and most of you, are all over what a great player and leader he is. Now some unknown person who wasnt in the room claims McNabb is upset and you're all gonna dump all over him?

Absolutely pathetic.
First of all NO ONE outside of T.O is going to get on their soapbox at a press conference and complain about anything in the open media....especially when someone gets drafted at your position. The "fact" that you are seeing these stories of Andy Reid having to "talk" to Mcnabb or "reassure" him that the Eagles still love him speak volumes. T.O said some outlandish crap, but he also said somethings that only someone in that locker room would know. If he is so insecure to have his head coach caress his head and tell him it will be alright then to me he needs to cowboy the F up. He isn't the only QB to have competition....Im sure Joe Montana didn't have to have Bill Walsh console him after picking up Steve Young. This is the NFL...And I will admit I NEVER liked Mcnabb from college to pro's. I don't dismiss his talent or his accomplishments but I think he is overrated. But that is me....but these reports just don't come out of nowhere....and if you looking for some other media reports here is one for you...

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No offense, but I think you really underestimate the competitiveness of NFL players. It's that competitive fire that drives them. Jerry Rice was considered "selfish" when TO came aboard, because he wanted the ball. Montana left an organization he won 4 Super Bowls with to play in Kansas City to prove he still had it. Drew Bledsoe wanted out of New England b/c Tom Brady had success. Larry Johnson bemoaned that he had to sit behind Priest Holmes to the point where **** "I Love Everyone" Vermeil said he had to grow up. There are COUNTLESS examples of players being downright pissed when someone is brought in to compete for their jobs. Why would you act as though the very traits which make them beloved in the first place are now unsavory?

And let's touch on the MSNBC article you cite, shall we?

The article says that a) McNabb has a right to be pissed but that b) he shouldn't air his grievances in public.

Where is the evidence McNabb is airing his grievances in public? :penalty: I haven't heard him speak out about any of this, have you? I haven't read anywhere in print that quotes him directly on this, have you? All I see is that UNNAMED sources citing a CLOSED DOOR meeting between Reid and McNabb suggest McNabb may have been pissed.

That's what we're getting our panties in a bunch over?

And one final note for those who might not be local to the Philadelphia area. Mark Eckel is indeed one of the Eagles beat writers, but he is NOTORIOUS for unreliable sources. I read every word he writes and would say, conservatively, that he gets 25% of his conjecture right.

 
And one final note for those who might not be local to the Philadelphia area. Mark Eckel is indeed one of the Eagles beat writers, but he is NOTORIOUS for unreliable sources. I read every word he writes and would say, conservatively, that he gets 25% of his conjecture right.
Mark Eckel is now reporting the Eagles have signed LeCharles Bentley.... :popcorn:
 
TheLastDispatch said:
wow. that might be the worst piece of garbage i've ever read.same for all the comment claiming mcnabb to be selfish and TO was right. absolutely 100% ridiculous. mcnabb hasn't even said anything. this is all speculation from someone who apparently wasn't even in the room and you guys are all trashing him? what the #### is wrong with you guys?from getting booed on draft day to the rush thing, to the TO problems, McNabb has pretty much been 1st class all the way. for as much as everyone says all he does is whines, i haven't seen any quotes. maybe a few with Owens, but that, to my memory, was mostly him telling Owens not to talk about his family. I hear people say that McNabb still complains about being booed- when? Can someone please give me a recent quote in which he whines about it? Supposedly it's been nearly every day since he's been drafted, so there should be somewhere around 1,000 quotes of him just whining, right?When McNabb is playing well everyone, analysts, writers, fans, and most of you, are all over what a great player and leader he is. Now some unknown person who wasnt in the room claims McNabb is upset and you're all gonna dump all over him?Absolutely pathetic.
:popcorn: 90% of the other material in this thread is, at best, drivel. The emotional leader and the public leader of the team is McNabb. When they took a QB with their first pick....HE ABSOLUTELY DESERVED A CALL. The only other fact given is that he and Reid had a closed door meeting. Too much conjecture here off of way too little real information.
 
BLOX said:
I don't understand why he'd be worried. He's one of the best QBs in the league when healthy.Reid comes from a system that always makes sure there is a capable backup at the QB position. See Bill Walsh, Mike Holmgren, Ron Wolf....
Yes, and Abraham Lincoln is in of our best Presidents when alive. Problem is McNabb has injury issues. It's tough for a team to deal with two different starting QBs every year, year in and year out.
 
gman8343 said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Jason Wood said:
As an Eagles fan, I can't blame McNabb for being pissed. Drafting a QB in the 2nd round doesn't help the 2007 team win in any way, shape or form. Donnie isn't the GM, he's not the coach...it's not his job to worry about 2008, 2009, 2010 any more than it is for we ticket holders.
XIt very well may if McNabb cant stay on the field.
Seriously. Jason, how could you say that with a straight face? McNabb has missed how many games in the last few years? PS - great use of emoticons in the article...
Because Kevin Kolb won't see the field unless McNabb AND A.J. Feeley get hurt. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
You're guaranteeing that three years down the road Kolb's upside will be less than A.J. Feeley?
 
TheLastDispatch said:
wow. that might be the worst piece of garbage i've ever read.

same for all the comment claiming mcnabb to be selfish and TO was right. absolutely 100% ridiculous. mcnabb hasn't even said anything. this is all speculation from someone who apparently wasn't even in the room and you guys are all trashing him? what the #### is wrong with you guys?

from getting booed on draft day to the rush thing, to the TO problems, McNabb has pretty much been 1st class all the way. for as much as everyone says all he does is whines, i haven't seen any quotes. maybe a few with Owens, but that, to my memory, was mostly him telling Owens not to talk about his family. I hear people say that McNabb still complains about being booed- when? Can someone please give me a recent quote in which he whines about it? Supposedly it's been nearly every day since he's been drafted, so there should be somewhere around 1,000 quotes of him just whining, right?

When McNabb is playing well everyone, analysts, writers, fans, and most of you, are all over what a great player and leader he is. Now some unknown person who wasnt in the room claims McNabb is upset and you're all gonna dump all over him?

Absolutely pathetic.
First of all NO ONE outside of T.O is going to get on their soapbox at a press conference and complain about anything in the open media....especially when someone gets drafted at your position. The "fact" that you are seeing these stories of Andy Reid having to "talk" to Mcnabb or "reassure" him that the Eagles still love him speak volumes. T.O said some outlandish crap, but he also said somethings that only someone in that locker room would know. If he is so insecure to have his head coach caress his head and tell him it will be alright then to me he needs to cowboy the F up. He isn't the only QB to have competition....Im sure Joe Montana didn't have to have Bill Walsh console him after picking up Steve Young. This is the NFL...And I will admit I NEVER liked Mcnabb from college to pro's. I don't dismiss his talent or his accomplishments but I think he is overrated. But that is me....but these reports just don't come out of nowhere....and if you looking for some other media reports here is one for you...

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Hmm... I would think most coaches would have a talk with their star QB after drafting another QB with their first pick. You don't think Dungy would have had a talk with Peyton if they chose Brady Quinn this year? It's not Charlie Frye (no offense Brown fans) you're drafting a replacement for here. Until I hear something negative from McNabb (who knows, maybe we will), I'm not passing judgment.
 
BLOX said:
I don't understand why he'd be worried. He's one of the best QBs in the league when healthy.Reid comes from a system that always makes sure there is a capable backup at the QB position. See Bill Walsh, Mike Holmgren, Ron Wolf....
Yes, and Abraham Lincoln is in of our best Presidents when alive. Problem is McNabb has injury issues. It's tough for a team to deal with two different starting QBs every year, year in and year out.
Actually Abraham Lincoln had a similar situation as W has right now. Many people didn't like him. And a lot of people in the North (not just the South) hated him because of the war.The only reason he's liked so much in history is because of the Gettysburg Address and, well, he was assassinated.Sorry, back to the topic.
 
BLOX said:
I don't understand why he'd be worried. He's one of the best QBs in the league when healthy.Reid comes from a system that always makes sure there is a capable backup at the QB position. See Bill Walsh, Mike Holmgren, Ron Wolf....
Yes, and Abraham Lincoln is in of our best Presidents when alive. Problem is McNabb has injury issues. It's tough for a team to deal with two different starting QBs every year, year in and year out.
Actually Abraham Lincoln had a similar situation as W has right now. Many people didn't like him. And a lot of people in the North (not just the South) hated him because of the war.The only reason he's liked so much in history is because of the Gettysburg Address and, well, he was assassinated.Sorry, back to the topic.
:thumbup: Lincoln led the nation through one of its toughest periods, and he did it with eloquence, vision, and class that went far beyond the Gettysburg address. Of course he was unpopular with many. Not only was he leading the nation during war, but it was a war against other Americans in which families were often torn apart. That being said, the nation is far better for having had Lincoln. Stick with football.Sorry again, back to topic.
 
Hmm... I would think most coaches would have a talk with their star QB after drafting another QB with their first pick.
Exactly what I would think. Letting people know where they stand and trying to get the most out of them are both part of good coaching.
 

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