Drafting WRs from the same team (1 Viewer)

[3nOut]

If the value presents itself, would you draft 2 WRs from the same team to serve as your WR1/WR2 or WR1/WR3? For example, would you draft any of the folowing pairs (or others):

Jennings and Driver

Wayne and Garcon

Colston and Meachem/Moore

D Jackson and Maclin

Owens and Ochocinco

Ward and Wallace

Moss and Welker

S. Rice (if he was healthy) and Harvin

There are risks involved as if the team has a bad offensive weeks you risk losing a lot of points. You also have two players on the same bye week. Thoughts?

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Sure I drafted Moss and Welker

If the #2 happens to be my top guy, I am taking him

 

[wiersface]

I'm down for Driver and James Jones it's not as high scale as some of those other combos but it's pretty sweet if both are on your bench. Driver has looked pretty good in preseason after the two knee surgeries and if he falls through I believe Jones is ready for a breakout year, Jones is probably going to be out on the field a lot anyway because the Packers are about slanging the rock with Rodgers. Either way having a Packer receiver you can plug in on bye weeks or start if someone gets hurt is fairly solid.

 

[shnikies]

Depending on the league format I don't think it's a good idea to take two players at the same position on the same team in the first 8-10 rounds. I can see taking the second guy late like if you were to get Harvin to also nab Berrian with a later pick. Using the rationale that you'll be more consistent doesn't work because a quarterback might have a bad day and then you're SOL.

 

[shnikies]

Sure I drafted Moss and WelkerIf the #2 happens to be my top guy, I am taking him

The fact your #1 and #2 receiver might be playing in snow storms weeks 13-16 doesn't bother you?

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I took the Hester/Knox combo late, key being that they were later picks. This after loading up on RBs early. Aromadachsund? or whatever his name is got away. So taking a mild gamble that the Bears are the next "greatest show" is a hedge bet with little downside/risk. If you can afford the risk, why not?

 

[captain_amazing]

In one of the leagues I play in, I have Ocho and Owens. Owens wasn't a Bengal then, but it the hype was there, and he was a late round pick. I am certainly curious to see how this will play out this season, especially for my FT.

 

[John555]

If the value presents itself, would you draft 2 WRs from the same team to serve as your WR1/WR2 or WR1/WR3? For example, would you draft any of the folowing pairs (or others):Jennings and DriverWayne and GarconColston and Meachem/MooreD Jackson and MaclinOwens and OchocincoWard and WallaceMoss and WelkerS. Rice (if he was healthy) and HarvinThere are risks involved as if the team has a bad offensive weeks you risk losing a lot of points. You also have two players on the same bye week. Thoughts?

Being on the same team doesn't bother me so much, but it better be one of the top 5 passing teams in the league who doesn't overly spread the ball around.

 

[Instinctive]

Sure I drafted Moss and WelkerIf the #2 happens to be my top guy, I am taking him

The fact your #1 and #2 receiver might be playing in snow storms weeks 13-16 doesn't bother you?

Cuz the last times they played in snowstorms they sucked really bad...only like 49 points on ARZ and 50 something on TEN. They only had like 2+ TDs each...what a mess.EDIT: can't spell sometimes

 

[The Jerk]

http://www.footballguys.com/drinennotebook3.cfm

Summary: Tends to increase consistency while decreasing the "explosiveness" of your lineup. The key is to get two GOOD receivers who are draftable on their own merit, not merely because they are teammates. Think Boldin and Fitzgerald the past few seasons.

 

[Chimp Magnet]

I've got both Nicks and Smith. I drafted Smith three years ago and acquired Nicks for pennies this offseason. But I'm glad to own them.

 

[bulger2holt]

so welker is less valuable because you have Moss ? But if you have AJ, it's ok ?

 

[DoubleG]

http://www.footballguys.com/drinennotebook3.cfm

Summary: Tends to increase consistency while decreasing the "explosiveness" of your lineup. The key is to get two GOOD receivers who are draftable on their own merit, not merely because they are teammates. Think Boldin and Fitzgerald the past few seasons.

You draft them becuase of their possible #s - not because they are on the same team. I also wouldn't avoid them for this reason either. Another minor advantage is they act as pseudo-handcuffs. For example, if Reggie Wayne went down, most likely Garcon, Collie, Clark and Gonzo's (assuming he's healthy) value would go up, as all those Manning passes have to land in someone's hands.

 

[Sweet Love]

I think there are a lot of variables that go into the equation as to whether it is a good decision or not. To walk away with two good players (Fitz and Boldin for example) hinges on who you select as your third WR. Last year, chances are they were both selected in rounds 1-3 and most would throw a RB in that mix. If you thought you were loaded and waited on WR, it may not have worked out for you. I can tell you, I personally don't like to go top 1 and 2 from the same team (thinking elite guys here). I had to miss a PPR draft last year and my friends got a guy to draft for me. He selected Fitz, Boldin AND Breaston as my top 3 receivers...needless to say it did not work out so well. I arerly had the guts to start all three and when i did, I walked away with one of them having a wickedly sub-par game (enough so, that the other two really did not make up for it). He drafted awful RBs for me, so it is hard to say how it truly would have turned out, but a league I won the previous year, I finished 10 out of 12.

I have, though, found myself handcuffing my stud #1 receiver in recent years. In the same PPR league, I have selected Breaston to go along with Fitz. In my Raleigh FBG Keep 3 league, I added Walter in the last round to go with Andre Johnson. Most of this hinges on the offense in general (both Houston the last two years and the Cards the last 4 or so have been electric and provide ample opportunities for all), but if your stud has a WR3 that plays the same route/position as he does, I think it is worth it depending on your bench size. This works in the case with Fitz (Doucet) and maybe even Moss (Tate) and Welker (Edelman), but if i owned CJ, I would pass on the handcuff as if he is out, as I don't think Burleson (the WR#2) or the #3 (whoever he is) provides the punch you are looking for.

 

[SSOG]

There's a discussion going on in the Dynasty Thread about whether Dez Bryant and Miles Austin should be downgraded because they're teammates. I'm copying a post I made over in that thread:

Moss and Welker were 2nd and 7th last year in PPG. Boldin and Fitzgerald were 1st and 2nd in PPG in 2008 (!!!). 2007 was the year of the WR duo- Moss and Welker ranked 1st and 11th, Ocho and Housh ranked 6th and 7th, Larry Fitzgerald ranked 5th, and Boldin was 10th in PPG but he missed some time. In 2006, Harrison and Wayne were 1st and 3rd while Ocho and Housh were 4th and 11th. 2005 saw Fitz finish 2nd and Boldin finish 8th. 2004 saw Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, AND BRANDON STOKLEY all finish 11th or better, while Javon Walker and Donald Driver finished 2nd and 10th and Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce finished 4th and 12th- SEVEN OF THE TOP 12 RECEIVERS that season played with another top-12 receiver. I could keep going back but we're already up to 10 top-12 duos and a top-12 trio. That's 23 players in the last 6 years, or almost 4 a year, and I haven't even looked at WR/TE combinations like Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow in 2007 or Wayne/Clark and VJax/Gates last year. It's not the teensiest, tiniest bit uncommon for two teammates to both produce at high-end stud levels. At any given moment, fully a third of the guys in the top 12 are playing across the field from another guy in the top 12.