dude accidentally releases edge james (1 Viewer)

[GregR_2]

As an aside....This kind of situation is why I prefer to set up waivers so a player can be picked right back up after they are dropped... no day long wait or prioritized waiver windows everyday or anything like that. Mistakes happen, and it's a lot easier on the league if people have the ability to just correct it immediately upon having made it. If they don't realize they made the mistake, and another person grabbed them, then too bad, the player is already on the other roster. But either way, it avoids putting other owners in the situation the original poster is in.

 

[Clayton Gray]

I am getting a  kick out of all the  "it's the comish's job" posts......what it  all boils  down to is those of  you  who  are saying this  KNOW  that the  right thing to do is give  edge  back  and  just  want the  comish to make you  do it....and if he doesnt  you  keep him????

right is  right ...and YES  if  you  do not  decide  to do the honorable  thing  the  comish will probably  step in and  make  you do it  ( as he should)  and as i read the posts  that is ok with you???  why would any of you need the  comish involved to make  you  give him back if that is all youre waiting  for to do it???

i just  don't  get it???

There are so many holes with this line of thinking.Try these very plausible situations on for size:

Team A releases Eddie George on Tuesday evening. The world discovers Wednesday morning that Julius Jones will miss two months. Team A claims a mistake was made.

Team B releases Mark Brunell on Thursday night. On Saturday morning, it is announced that Brunell is healthy and will remain the team's starting QB. Team B claims a mistake was made.
Team C releases Keary Colbert on Monday afternoon. That night Steve Smith breaks a leg. Team C claims early Tuesday morning that a mistake was made.To be consistent you must agree that mistakes were made and the players should return to their original owners.

You have got to be kidding me. If you can't tell the obvious difference between this situation and the three you posted, then you don't deserve whatever salary that Joe is paying you. Or you're deliberately posting a strawman argument to piss people off, in which case, I'd say the same thing.

It seems like James was cut at a time when it looked like he would not play and was wanted back when his situation improved. Does every waived player deserve the same do over considerations or just the good ones?

 

[cracKer]

You have got to be kidding me...

That's where the problem arises. You're asking for a subjective overview, trying to determine the validity of the "OOPS". You need to draw a hard line (i.e. take care of your own damn roster) otherwise someone will eventually get screwed. Pretty basic stuff, but it depends on the type of league that you're in. What you don't want to happen is where they let this one slide and then try to draw a line (don't let it happen again). Why should one owner get a freebie?

 

[Clayton Gray]

As an aside....This kind of situation is why I prefer to set up waivers so a player can be picked right back up after they are dropped... no day long wait or prioritized waiver windows everyday or anything like that. Mistakes happen, and it's a lot easier on the league if people have the ability to just correct it immediately upon having made it. If they don't realize they made the mistake, and another person grabbed them, then too bad, the player is already on the other roster. But either way, it avoids putting other owners in the situation the original poster is in.

Solid

 

[cracKer]

As an aside....This kind of situation is why I prefer to set up waivers so a player can be picked right back up after they are dropped... no day long wait or prioritized waiver windows everyday or anything like that. Mistakes happen, and it's a lot easier on the league if people have the ability to just correct it immediately upon having made it. If they don't realize they made the mistake, and another person grabbed them, then too bad, the player is already on the other roster. But either way, it avoids putting other owners in the situation the original poster is in.

It avoids that one situation, but it's also unfair to those of us who don't have computer access during the day, and it leaves the door open for collusion.

 

[Daywalker]

The guy made all of these moves and still has the #2 WW position?If the guy dropped edge then pointed out his error soon thereafter. I wouldn't hesitate to give him edge back.But this guys transactions after the fact make it much murkier. But it does seem like he was paying attention to the injury reports and would know that edge's injury was not too serious at that point.If it was me and I knew the other owner knew his stuff then I'd probably concede it was an honest mistake.

 

[super sleeper]

The problem with this thread is that too many people weighed in without having enough facts to post their opinions. Without knowing how long the owner took to realize the mistake, and what the commissioner's response was, all these replies are worthless. Now everyone is just trying to defend their original comments. I'm still not sure I know all the facts about the timing of the drop, how the mistake was reported, etc.Having said that, I agree with one of the responses that said that the commissioner's lack of a response was an acknowledgement that the player was available. But the commissioner does need to step up here. All you guiys that don't think this is a commissioner's issue are probably in leagues with weak commissioners that allow constant votes on trades, etc, because they don't have the stones to make a ruling that might be unpopular with an owner.

 

[P Boy]

I guess the folks who picked in front of the Minnesota Vikings a few years ago should have just stepped aside and let Minnesota pick b/c the Vikes just made a simple mistake, right?

Or did that team lack integrity by using the Vikes' draft slot since they KNEW the Vikes simply made a mistake by letting the clock run.

Terrible comparison.MIN intentionally let the clock run out to let them pick the same player they would have picked earlier 2 picks later - and hence pay that player a little less because of the way rookies are usually slotted for contracts.

To think that a pro team's management would "accidentally" let the clock run out on not one but two picks in the 1st round of the NFL draft is ludicrous.

As far as this situation, Marc, suppose a neighbor is mowing his yard and accidentally leaves his $500 riding mower on just over the border on your lawn overnight. Does that make the mower yours? It's on your property & he abandoned it, after all. Or maybe you should claim the mower as yours & let a smalls claims court judge figure it out later.

This one is easy - the ethical course of action is clearly to give him Edge back. It may not be in absolute line with the rules, and you may have a point of justifiable legal contention, I don't understand why you would even suggest otherwise than to return James to his original owner.

 

[cooderbrown]

Keep'em...sounds like seller remorse.

 

[Marc Levin]

As far as this situation, Marc, suppose a neighbor is mowing his yard and accidentally leaves his $500 riding mower on just over the border on your lawn overnight. Does that make the mower yours? It's on your property & he abandoned it, after all. Or maybe you should claim the mower as yours & let a smalls claims court judge figure it out later.

LOL - nice Pony. OK, I'll play. If he left it for five minutes, it is not abandoned.If he left it there for 3 days without ever letting me know he'd be back for it at some point, it's abandoned, it is mine, and I can take it and let a judge sort it out if I don't care about getting along with my neighbor. But, we aren't talking about neighbors who need to get along - we are talking about rivals and competitors in a game whose job it is to get an edge (sorry for THAT little pun!) on their competition. They don't have to live next to the person for the next 5 years.Let's change your anaology - someone I don't know leaves a car parked in my driveway for two days - they have taken off all the license plates, tags, and all identifying paper out of the car. Can I claim it as abandoned, have it towed into storage and keep it as mine? Yup.

So are you telling me that in a money league, at the draft, if a player traded their first round pick for another players 10th rounder purely because one of them is a complete idiot, and the commissioner does nothing, all is just fine and dandy?

Yup. You are obviously useed to commissioners reversing trades for unbalance to protect owners' stupidity. That's fine and dandy, but that does not6 mean the other owner who is trying to "get over" on a stupid player is morally or ethically wrong. In fact, that owner is more morally cuplable than the owner here who is simply going to take a player avail;able onthew WW.Keep your moral high road if you choose, but don't dictate those ethics as pure fact in the game of FF, or as a case fo rmaking you a "more ethical" player.