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The agent can clear his name if Dumervil & Broncos can come to an agreement today... my rough parameters above or the like (see link @ itsalloverfatman for a better proposal). They had it all worked out, allegedly shopped around the league & found Bronco offer was as good as it was going to get.If Dumervil signs somewhere else, I'm calling shenanigans. The agreement was already verbally made, no reason to be fielding calls from anyone else at this point.
As cutthroat as being a sports agent is and anyone with any experience of it, knows that this is/was completely unacceptable as an agent. Now he will pay the price.
They couldnt afford half their own defense but theyre gonna sign Doom?! Yeah, ok'Craig_MiamiFL said:
Not willing to pay does not mean not able to afford.There was no way Ozzie was going to pony up the money required to keep Kruger or Ellerbe. There were teams willing to overpay for those guys and Ozzie chose not too. Pretty standard stuff here in B-More.They couldnt afford half their own defense but theyre gonna sign Doom?! Yeah, ok'Craig_MiamiFL said:
The "gutted" def still has Ngata, Canty, Spears, Suggs, Upshaw, and Doom as you put it. Still have Webb in the secondary. I expect them to address the saftey position in the draft or to sign Huff.i dont think that unit is bad at all.
take it back - looks like Doom is actually making more money so it worked out for him...Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 16mRavens are giving former Broncos DE Elvis Dumervil a five-year deal worth up to $35 million, including $8.5 million in year one.
And didn't he get his roster bonus money from the Broncos for the 2013 season before he became a free agent? Sounds like a sweet deal for him, except that the Broncos look like the better team on paper for a shot at the SB.
I thought they cut him to avoid that bonus.
no. His deal was that his 2013 $12m salary would be fully guaranteed last Friday - Elway wanted that reduced to market value, and that's what caused this whole mess. Elvis's deal here is a 5 year deal, paying him $7.5m signing bonus and a 2013 base salary of $1m. I doubt he sees year five of this, Ravens are back-loading this to make it cap-friendly. It's gonna be touch once Flacco's big cap numbers start getting paid for them to make it all fit.
Oh, my bad. I remember reading somewhere that he got some sort of a bonus.
The local news reports in Denver say the Broncos offered more guaranteed money but only wanted to sign him over the next two years.
We may never know!In any event it seems highly unlikely that he will see the last two or three years of this contract with the Ravens. It seems odd that the team that totally kicked his behind for four quarters went ahead and signed him.
Doom, Ngata, Canty, Ware, Suggs---rotating in AJones, McPhee, Cody...LOVE this front
see i forgot about A.Jones, Jimmy smith and Mt. Cody. The Def will be fine, they might loose some intangibles and leadership.
in the 1st 1/2 of the season last yr, the run-D was giving it up in spades--I doubt they are 28th v run in the 1st half as they were last yr
this front takes some dbl team pressure off Ngata, hopefully keeping him healthier over the course of the season
Webb, Graham & JSmith @corner is also strong--need to tighten up ILB, FS&SS...look for Huff and an inexpensive vet added for 2 of these spots and the Ravens adding depth w/some of the 12 pix we have
while alot of talent WAS lost over the last month, what was left behind and signed the last 14 days assures we'll be competitive, which is all the Ravens want each year...a chance
and as we saw this past yr, once you're IN, anything can happen
Who was projecting this?
Nobody!And nobody should expect Elvis to get 17 sacks.You seem irritated I made the case why his one big season was skewed and that no-one should expect him to recplicate those numbers.Expectations should be reasonable for Dumervil and fall right around the sack count that they got from Kruger last year.Baltimore is paying Dumervil right about what Cleveland is paying Kruger.I like Dumbevil, solid signing but we'll see how it turns out.
This is just silly. Maybe we should say he should have gone against St. Clair in the first half of that game and give him 21 sacks in 2009. Those 4 sacks happened. He had 17 sacks in 2009 your * means nothing.
I've always put an *asterick next to Dumvervil's sack total that year because I saw that game. You obviously didn't see the game.
And your reasoning is flawed. He will not line uP against JT since Suggs will, most likely. Moreover, neither miller, nor suggs or any other strong pass rusher played for that Denver team. Dumervil is an upgrade over Kruger, you obviously didn't watch ravens game last year. Kruger will be good, but the ravens are getting significantly more value for dumervil to the tune of 5 mil aggregate cap room and two compensatory Picks.
Newsflash: Dumervil probably won't be rushing against Joe Thomas with the Ravens either, because Terrell Suggs will be.The Ravens are paying him significantly less than the Browns are paying Kruger. Do you know how many sacks Kruger had last season in the first 6 weeks before Suggs returned from injury? 1.5Things got a lot easier for him once opposing defenses had to account for another pass rusher.
Newsflash. T-Suggs started to line-up over the RT against Cleveland the last few games because the battles with Joe Thomas and T-Sizzle would be a stalemate. The Ravens began deploying that strategy after they had success with it in the AFC Championship game against the Pats and then they started to do that in regular season games.
I guess I don't understand. Are the Ravens now going to line up Suggs and Dumervil both on the opposite side of the line from Thomas?Well, whatever Baltimore is doing, it seems to work since they've beaten Cleveland 10 straight times -- the longest current divisional winning streak in the NFL.
Dumervil got four sacks going up against John St. Clair who started his last game of his career in Denver. He was, old, injured, and at the end of his rope. That game ended his career.
So I guess you have a lot of *s on players stats based on specific situations in games you just happened to watch. I guess if a DB falls down in a game you are watching and the receiver he was covering catches a TD you put an * on that players TD catches? My point is that a lot of things happen in every game that might not be a completely normal situation. Did you study every sack from 2009 to determine which ones were "legit" and which you thought deserved an *? The guy went up against whoever the other team put in front of him and accumulated 17 sacks that year, thats pretty much the end of it.
While its true you never apologize for the schedule/opponent you are given, I think his point is pretty clear. There are situations where funny things happen in every games and then there are situations that completely shift the data. That game he referenced is the latter.
Trust me.I don't pay attention to one-time performances by actors or right tackles much unless they are really good or really bad.That was the absolute worst performance I've ever seen by a right tackle ever.So I do put an asterick on the guy who took advantage of an old injuured player.The performance was soo bad that it, infuriated, sickened, and then saddened me.You can thump Dumervil's chest all you want by beating up on John St. Clair but when the stat-sheet shows such a night-and-day comparison of how Elvis did againt Joe Thomas, zero sack, zero tackles, one penalty, to how he performed against St. Clair, four sacks, forced penalty, two tackles, one pass defensed. You can say it was all Elvis but I give credit to Josh McDaniels for a brilliant ooaching decision since he saw the mismatch.I see Elvis as a solid 9-12 sack guy and I do put an asterik* on his one big half againt John St. Clair.It was truly the absolute WORST performance by a RT I've ever seen.You obviously did not see the game but you can say it was Elvis Dumervil's great talent, that's fine by me because I saw the game and don't have to guess what happened.
funny. i had no idea that Elvis is the only guy who, while having a great season, went up against an inferior tackle.guess we put an asterik for when Aldon Smith had his 5.5 sacks against Chicago too, huh? Or, Jared Allens 3.5 sacks in the last game of the season, also against Chicago?
He got 3 against St Clair and 1 against Thomas.The one against Thomas is the first one in the videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUPPCrsPvHQ
Mike Nolan is probably the guy most responsible for the d's scheme that game.
