Dumervil released (1 Viewer)

[teamramrod]

I'll bet the last 10 minutes before deadline in the room with Dumerville and his agent team must have been comical to see.

"Paper jam in the fax machine! Paper jam in the fax machine! It's not working! Oh God!!"

crap, double Honda by me... My badpeace

 

[ghostguy123]

Honestly.................couldn't this be appealed or something??

Has anyone ever tried to pull a last minute trade at the dealine with someone in your league and there was a "computer error" or something, and you kindly have the commish put it through for you when you email him like 3 minutes after the deadline explaining what happened?? Doesn't Roger Goodell play fantasy football??? Hasn't this ever happened to him before???

I mean, the player's intent was clearly to agree. The team's intent was clearly to agree..................this is dumb, lol. But comical.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Honestly.................couldn't this be appealed or something??Has anyone ever tried to pull a last minute trade at the dealine with someone in your league and there was a "computer error" or something, and you kindly have the commish put it through for you when you email him like 3 minutes after the deadline explaining what happened?? Doesn't Roger Goodell play fantasy football??? Hasn't this ever happened to him before???I mean, the player's intent was clearly to agree. The team's intent was clearly to agree..................this is dumb, lol. But comical.

what I was thinking as well, if both sides agree to the deal I'm sure the owners could have a quick vote on it and give the Broncos a small cap fine

 

[ghostguy123]

Honestly.................couldn't this be appealed or something??Has anyone ever tried to pull a last minute trade at the dealine with someone in your league and there was a "computer error" or something, and you kindly have the commish put it through for you when you email him like 3 minutes after the deadline explaining what happened?? Doesn't Roger Goodell play fantasy football??? Hasn't this ever happened to him before???I mean, the player's intent was clearly to agree. The team's intent was clearly to agree..................this is dumb, lol. But comical.

what I was thinking as well, if both sides agree to the deal I'm sure the owners could have a quick vote on it and give the Broncos a small cap fine

Yeah, and in your fantasy league you have both guys throw an extra 10 bucks in the pot, haha.

 

[ghostguy123]

In court they call this a mistrial. Idiot agent. I hope this wasn't his only cliet, cause in about 5 minute he will be down to NONE>

 

[Don Quixote]

Agent's side of the story...

Dumervil's agent disputes some of Denver's timeline of eventsBy Jason La Canfora | CBS Sports NFL InsiderMarch 15, 2013 6:43 pm ETMartin Magid, agent for Elvis Dumervil, and the Broncos were working on a new deal ahead of a 4 p.m. ET deadline to file a restructured deal, or Denver would cut the pass rusher rather than pay him $12 million this season. The Broncos told reporters they were forced to file termination papers on Dumervile because, ultimately, they didn't get the signed contract returned via fax by 4:06 ET.Magid said the Broncos changed the language regarding Dumervil's 2014 salary, withdrawing a full guarantee on the deal, an hour before the deadline and then, he did receive the actual contract until 3:42 ET. At that point, he had to scan and send it to Dumervil, who was in Florida, for him to sign and send back to the team, which already created a time crunch. The deal would have lowered Dumervil's 2013 salary from $12 million to $8 million."They changed the deal, and my client needed time to digest it," Magid said, "I needed to read over the language, and then get it to him, and, because they changed the terms, Elvis, obviously, would want to read it before signing it."Elvis has a timestamp at 3:53, 3:54 of him faxing it back. They had him fax it to two different numbers. He was sending it in, and then at 3:55 I get a call on the other line and the Broncos are telling me they're running out of time and they have to get the paperwork to New York [the league office, to file his release by the waiver deadline], so I told them, 'It's going through the fax right now, but I guess you have to do whatever you have to do.'"Magid said Dumervil took pictures, with a time stamp, of the fax being sent prior to 4 p.m. The Broncos said they did not receive the fax until 4:06 p.m. Magid said he and Dumervil had no control over how long it took and he did not know what time it reached Denver."Unfortunately for them and us, it didn't go the way we hoped it would," Magid said.Magid said in the hours after the fax fiasco he had not heard from the Broncos and was unsure if a return there was in the cards. He did however, start to field calls from other teams with Dumervil now a free agent."We haven't talked yet, but I think we all needed to take a deep breath and then we'll see where it goes,'" Magid said. "Unfortunately, it didn't work out the way we wanted, but everything happens for a reason and it's not like this anybody's fault. This wasn't just a case of an agent taking too long to send something. It's not anyone's fault, but Elvis is a free agent now and we'll see how that process plays out."

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/jason-la-canfora/21885765/dumervils-agent-disputes-some-of-denvers-timeline-of-events

 

[proninja]

lol @ fax

 

[Buffaloes]

You guys are fools if you think he won't get more than 8 million somewhere else.

Bush league move by an agent I hadn't heard of up until this week.

 

[Mile High]

Guess Dumervil was in line at a local Kinkos and was late.

 

[sho nuff]

Lot of blaming the agent here...but if true they did not get the update til 3:42 with changes to it?

Got to put some on the team...and for both of them for having a ton of time to get this done but waiting til the last freaking minute and relying on a freakin fax at that point.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

In court they call this a mistrial. Idiot agent. I hope this wasn't his only cliet, cause in about 5 minute he will be down to NONE>

This bozo lost whatever business he had. Of course he won't take the blame for not having this completed until the very last second. At this point, it doesn't matter and the damage to whatever reputation he had is done.

 

[Mile High]

Lot of blaming the agent here...but if true they did not get the update til 3:42 with changes to it?Got to put some on the team...and for both of them for having a ton of time to get this done but waiting til the last freaking minute and relying on a freakin fax at that point.

Broncos saying they didn't change any part of the deal that was accepted at 11 am Denver time. Someone is lying.

 

[ffldrew]

Guess Dumervil was in line at a local Kinkos and was late.

Smoking weed in the afternoon slows you down

 

[Buffaloes]

Lot of blaming the agent here...but if true they did not get the update til 3:42 with changes to it?Got to put some on the team...and for both of them for having a ton of time to get this done but waiting til the last freaking minute and relying on a freakin fax at that point.

Broncos saying they didn't change any part of the deal that was accepted at 11 am Denver time. Someone is lying.

indeed...and I'm inclined to believe Elway vs agent guy because he's John Elway after all.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Lot of blaming the agent here...but if true they did not get the update til 3:42 with changes to it?Got to put some on the team...and for both of them for having a ton of time to get this done but waiting til the last freaking minute and relying on a freakin fax at that point.

Broncos saying they didn't change any part of the deal that was accepted at 11 am Denver time. Someone is lying.

The guy with the most to lose (his career) -- the agent.

 

[shadyridr]

Broncos have nothing to gain by lying. Agent has everything to lose. I believe denver

 

[helix]

I have a feeling Denver decided to part ways with Dumervil well in advance of the deadline and used this situation as cover. Denver takes the $5 million cap hit by releasing him and moves on to a guy like Freeney. The NFL is a cutthroat business.

 

[Buffaloes]

I have a feeling Denver decided to part ways with Dumervil well in advance of the deadline and used this situation as cover. Denver takes the $5 million cap hit by releasing him and moves on to a guy like Freeney. The NFL is a cutthroat business.

if that's the case it makes more sense to just cut him and not offer the ~$8mm and let this thing drag out

 

[Courtjester]

Lot of blaming the agent here...but if true they did not get the update til 3:42 with changes to it?Got to put some on the team...and for both of them for having a ton of time to get this done but waiting til the last freaking minute and relying on a freakin fax at that point.

Broncos saying they didn't change any part of the deal that was accepted at 11 am Denver time. Someone is lying.

indeed...and I'm inclined to believe Elway vs agent guy because he's John Elway after all.

And the other factor that seems to make one believe the team more is who is going to lose the most in this whole transaction if it goes south--the team. They have to take the dead cap hit and now have to go find another player.The bottom line is this is a third rate agent who held out to the last moment hoping he would get a better offer from another team and it just didn't come. He waited to the last moment and the deal didn't get done because of it and now his client suffers at least in the short-term.

 

[ffldrew]

Michelle Beisner was down at Dove Valley today covering the Welker story for NFLN and described Elway as pissed and fuming when this went down. Emphatically told her that they did not change deal after this morning. Might be a link at 104.3 website

 

[helix]

I have a feeling Denver decided to part ways with Dumervil well in advance of the deadline and used this situation as cover. Denver takes the $5 million cap hit by releasing him and moves on to a guy like Freeney. The NFL is a cutthroat business.

if that's the case it makes more sense to just cut him and not offer the ~$8mm and let this thing drag out

That is my point- Denver created the confusion as cover. The $8 million offer may have not be genuine. Parties negotiate in bad faith all the time.

 

[moleculo]

Lot of blaming the agent here...but if true they did not get the update til 3:42 with changes to it?Got to put some on the team...and for both of them for having a ton of time to get this done but waiting til the last freaking minute and relying on a freakin fax at that point.

Broncos saying they didn't change any part of the deal that was accepted at 11 am Denver time. Someone is lying.

indeed...and I'm inclined to believe Elway vs agent guy because he's John Elway after all.

there is no way that some agent from PA can win in the Court of Public Opinion against John ####### Elway.

 

[Sabertooth]

Even if they didn't change it. He still had to read the whole thing again to make sure right?

 

[Mile High]

I have a feeling Denver decided to part ways with Dumervil well in advance of the deadline and used this situation as cover. Denver takes the $5 million cap hit by releasing him and moves on to a guy like Freeney. The NFL is a cutthroat business.

if that's the case it makes more sense to just cut him and not offer the ~$8mm and let this thing drag out

That is my point- Denver created the confusion as cover. The $8 million offer may have not be genuine. Parties negotiate in bad faith all the time.

And the other factor that seems to make one believe the team more is who is going to lose the most in this whole transaction if it goes south--the team. They have to take the dead cap hit and now have to go find another player.

 

[Buffaloes]

I have a feeling Denver decided to part ways with Dumervil well in advance of the deadline and used this situation as cover. Denver takes the $5 million cap hit by releasing him and moves on to a guy like Freeney. The NFL is a cutthroat business.

if that's the case it makes more sense to just cut him and not offer the ~$8mm and let this thing drag out

That is my point- Denver created the confusion as cover. The $8 million offer may have not be genuine. Parties negotiate in bad faith all the time.

that literally makes no sense. Denver isn't going to send a contract out for execution unless it's willing to pay the money.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

I have a feeling Denver decided to part ways with Dumervil well in advance of the deadline and used this situation as cover. Denver takes the $5 million cap hit by releasing him and moves on to a guy like Freeney. The NFL is a cutthroat business.

This makes absolutely zero sense at all. So you think they wanted to take the cap hit ($5 mil), pay Freeney $3-4+ mil, for a total of $8+ mil, when they agreed to pay the superior player at this point (Dumervil) $8 mil? The Broncos gain NOTHING out of this situation.

 

[moleculo]

I have a feeling Denver decided to part ways with Dumervil well in advance of the deadline and used this situation as cover. Denver takes the $5 million cap hit by releasing him and moves on to a guy like Freeney. The NFL is a cutthroat business.

if that's the case it makes more sense to just cut him and not offer the ~$8mm and let this thing drag out

That is my point- Denver created the confusion as cover. The $8 million offer may have not be genuine. Parties negotiate in bad faith all the time.

but why the last minute drama? Just lowball ($8m isn't lowballing), negotiate w/ Abraham behind Dumervil's back, and part ways? That's basically what the Patriots did w/ Welker.

 

[ICON211]

Lot of blaming the agent here...but if true they did not get the update til 3:42 with changes to it?

Got to put some on the team...and for both of them for having a ton of time to get this done but waiting til the last freaking minute and relying on a freakin fax at that point.

Broncos saying they didn't change any part of the deal that was accepted at 11 am Denver time. Someone is lying.

indeed...and I'm inclined to believe Elway vs agent guy because he's John Elway after all.

And the other factor that seems to make one believe the team more is who is going to lose the most in this whole transaction if it goes south--the team. They have to take the dead cap hit and now have to go find another player.The bottom line is this is a third rate agent who held out to the last moment hoping he would get a better offer from another team and it just didn't come. He waited to the last moment and the deal didn't get done because of it and now his client suffers at least in the short-term.

Uh what? Dumerville was under contract to Denver he was not even allowed to talk to other teams much less field offers from them.

 

[Buffaloes]

John Elway's timeline:http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Statement-from-Elway-on-Dumervil/020fdc76-b358-488b-a9d1-2de642fc3b80

“Due to the procedural elements that were involved in executing the new proposal, we imposed a 1 p.m. MDT deadline for a decision, one hour before the NFL’s waiver wire at 2 p.m. MDT. Our deadline was clearly communicated to Elvis’ representative.“At 1 p.m. MDT, we were informed by Elvis’ representative that he declined our offer. We then prepared Elvis’ termination notice to officially file his release with the NFL office.“At approximately 1:25 p.m. MDT, however, we were informed that Elvis changed his mind and accepted the same contract we proposed nearly two-and-a-half hours earlier. Although we expressed our concern regarding the time constraints, we were assured that the signed documents would be submitted to us before the league’s waiver deadline.“We did not receive the documents from Elvis by the league’s deadline and were forced to release him shortly before 2 p.m. MDT.

 

[helix]

I have a feeling Denver decided to part ways with Dumervil well in advance of the deadline and used this situation as cover. Denver takes the $5 million cap hit by releasing him and moves on to a guy like Freeney. The NFL is a cutthroat business.

if that's the case it makes more sense to just cut him and not offer the ~$8mm and let this thing drag out

That is my point- Denver created the confusion as cover. The $8 million offer may have not be genuine. Parties negotiate in bad faith all the time.

but why the last minute drama? Just lowball ($8m isn't lowballing), negotiate w/ Abraham behind Dumervil's back, and part ways? That's basically what the Patriots did w/ Welker.

Maybe because Denver wanted the agent to look like the problem. And look what happened in NE. They blowout Welker and their franchise QB is not happy. The NE locker room is potentially all fired up. The way the Dumervil deal went down, Elway does not look like the bad guy to his players.

 

[Courtjester]

Even if they didn't change it. He still had to read the whole thing again to make sure right?

Here is Elway's quote: For the last week, Elvis Dumervil and his agent were aware of our desire to change the financial terms of his contract to ensure he would remain a Denver Bronco. After numerous conversations with both Elvis and his representative, we submitted our final contract proposal to Elvis today at 11 a.m. MDT. Based on our previous discussions, we believed our offer was fair and were hopeful it would resolve this matter. “Due to the procedural elements that were involved in executing the new proposal, we imposed a 1 p.m. MDT deadline for a decision, one hour before the NFL’s waiver wire at 2 p.m. MDT. Our deadline was clearly communicated to Elvis’ representative. “At 1 p.m. MDT, we were informed by Elvis’ representative that he declined our offer. We then prepared Elvis’ termination notice to officially file his release with the NFL office. “At approximately 1:25 p.m. MDT, however, we were informed that Elvis changed his mind and accepted the same contract we proposed nearly two-and-a-half hours earlier. Although we expressed our concern regarding the time constraints, we were assured that the signed documents would be submitted to us before the league’s waiver deadline. “We did not receive the documents from Elvis by the league’s deadline and were forced to release him shortly before 2 p.m. MDTPretty straight forward...

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

John Elway's timeline:http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Statement-from-Elway-on-Dumervil/020fdc76-b358-488b-a9d1-2de642fc3b80

“Due to the procedural elements that were involved in executing the new proposal, we imposed a 1 p.m. MDT deadline for a decision, one hour before the NFL’s waiver wire at 2 p.m. MDT. Our deadline was clearly communicated to Elvis’ representative.“At 1 p.m. MDT, we were informed by Elvis’ representative that he declined our offer. We then prepared Elvis’ termination notice to officially file his release with the NFL office.“At approximately 1:25 p.m. MDT, however, we were informed that Elvis changed his mind and accepted the same contract we proposed nearly two-and-a-half hours earlier. Although we expressed our concern regarding the time constraints, we were assured that the signed documents would be submitted to us before the league’s waiver deadline.“We did not receive the documents from Elvis by the league’s deadline and were forced to release him shortly before 2 p.m. MDT.

Though there's little doubt to who to believe here (Broncos had nothing to gain whatsoever by this fiasco), glad Elway got this out of the way.At this point they'll likely be paying more, with that cap hit, for inferior players at this point in their careers (Freeney/Abraham) than they would have Dumervil.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Lot of blaming the agent here...but if true they did not get the update til 3:42 with changes to it?Got to put some on the team...and for both of them for having a ton of time to get this done but waiting til the last freaking minute and relying on a freakin fax at that point.

Broncos saying they didn't change any part of the deal that was accepted at 11 am Denver time. Someone is lying.

The guy with the most to lose (his career) -- the agent.

your fired

 

[Buffaloes]

Michelle Beisner was at Dove Valley today and says that Magrid's timeline is bs, btw. not that any more confirmation was necessary...

 

[DropKick]

Mrs Wilbur? Will you please get off the party line now? I have to make an important call!

 

[moleculo]

timeline

it appears that broncos set 1:00 MDT deadline. Dumervil rejected.

1:25: dumervil accepted offer.

1:31: contract sent. number was wrong in contract, Broncos had to revise.

1:40: revised contract sent.

1:53: Dumervil claimed to fax signed contract back to Denver

2:07: Dumervils contract finally came in.

So, it looks like (1) Dumervils camp is at fault for rejecting the offer and then accepting the offer 25 minutes later. (2) Broncos missed a step by having a number wrong and had to send revised contract. (3) Dumervil's team missed the boat by not having professional representation in person - Dumervil apparently had to go to a Kinkos to get the contract faxed back.

era:

The Broncos were collectively angered by the turn of events Friday afternoon, but after a cooling off period, the team could re-sign Dumervil as soon as Saturday.

Read more: Broncos release Elvis Dumervil because new contract too late - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_22799752/clock-ticks-elvis-dumervils-future-broncos-or-elsewhere#ixzz2Nez9jUxnRead The Denver Post's Terms of Use of its content: http://www.denverpost.com/termsofuse

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[FUBAR]

So how many millions do you think that agent just lost as a result of that FUBAR?! Not just their cut of this deal, but other players telling him the equivalent of "you're clownin', dawg."

What I do?

 

[Courtjester]

Have you looked at that agent's website?

It lists one of their clients as "Travis Henry RB Denver Broncos"

 

[datonn]

So how many millions do you think that agent just lost as a result of that FUBAR?! Not just their cut of this deal, but other players telling him the equivalent of "you're clownin', dawg."

What I do?

You know what you did. Gotta get past denial and reach acceptance and ownership for what you've done before you can start that long road to recovery, my man...

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Shame it went down this way, but I think the Broncos are better off. He's not anywhere near the player he was when he signed the deal originally, and before the injuries started piling up. $8M per was still too much IMO.

 

[Kenny Powers]

At first I thought this might be good for DEN not to have to pay Doom $12M per because I thought he stunk up the joint since his big 2010. Obviously not the case once I looke at his stats. Had a career high in tackles and FF last year to go along with 11 sacks.

He's definitely going to get at least $8M on the open market, and I highly doubt he's back in DEN.

 

[ICON211]

Shame it went down this way, but I think the Broncos are better off. He's not anywhere near the player he was when he signed the deal originally, and before the injuries started piling up. $8M per was still too much IMO.

Does it really matter how much he was getting paid as long as Denver could fit him under the cap? This is maybe a two year window for them and I doubt they can get anyone better than him.

 

[Joe Summer]

I have a feeling Denver decided to part ways with Dumervil well in advance of the deadline and used this situation as cover. Denver takes the $5 million cap hit by releasing him and moves on to a guy like Freeney. The NFL is a cutthroat business.

if that's the case it makes more sense to just cut him and not offer the ~$8mm and let this thing drag out

That is my point- Denver created the confusion as cover. The $8 million offer may have not be genuine. Parties negotiate in bad faith all the time.

Dude, stop and think about this for a moment. The ONLY way your conspiracy theory works is if Denver somehow KNEW that Dumervil's agent was going to miss the deadline.If the agent faxes the paperwork at 1 p.m., this whole thing is a non-story.(Do you think that the Broncos hired people to stand in line at Kinkos??? )

 

[The Comedian]

all the crap you keep saying

what the hell are you talking about?

 

[cvnpoka]

Lot of blaming the agent here...but if true they did not get the update til 3:42 with changes to it?Got to put some on the team...and for both of them for having a ton of time to get this done but waiting til the last freaking minute and relying on a freakin fax at that point.

Broncos saying they didn't change any part of the deal that was accepted at 11 am Denver time. Someone is lying.

indeed...and I'm inclined to believe Elway vs agent guy because he's John Elway after all.

elway is the guy who is a notorious drunken creepy lecher

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Lot of blaming the agent here...but if true they did not get the update til 3:42 with changes to it?Got to put some on the team...and for both of them for having a ton of time to get this done but waiting til the last freaking minute and relying on a freakin fax at that point.

Broncos saying they didn't change any part of the deal that was accepted at 11 am Denver time. Someone is lying.

indeed...and I'm inclined to believe Elway vs agent guy because he's John Elway after all.

elway is the guy who is a notorious drunken creepy lecher

Right, exactly. And the other guy is a sports agent. Glad we're on the same page.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Lot of blaming the agent here...but if true they did not get the update til 3:42 with changes to it?Got to put some on the team...and for both of them for having a ton of time to get this done but waiting til the last freaking minute and relying on a freakin fax at that point.

Broncos saying they didn't change any part of the deal that was accepted at 11 am Denver time. Someone is lying.

indeed...and I'm inclined to believe Elway vs agent guy because he's John Elway after all.

elway is the guy who is a notorious drunken creepy lecher

watch out for the lecherchaun's during St. Pattys weekend!!?!?!?

 

[Benchwarmers]

Dumerville won't make what he was going to get in Denver. Both are losers on this. Freeney now signs with Denver. 2 years 10 million. Dumerville signs somewhere else for $6 million a season. Dumervilles sack numbers will go down since he doesn't have Miller getting triple teamed on the other side.

 

[SSOG]

Honestly.................couldn't this be appealed or something??Has anyone ever tried to pull a last minute trade at the dealine with someone in your league and there was a "computer error" or something, and you kindly have the commish put it through for you when you email him like 3 minutes after the deadline explaining what happened?? Doesn't Roger Goodell play fantasy football??? Hasn't this ever happened to him before???I mean, the player's intent was clearly to agree. The team's intent was clearly to agree..................this is dumb, lol. But comical.

what I was thinking as well, if both sides agree to the deal I'm sure the owners could have a quick vote on it and give the Broncos a small cap fine

Yeah, and in your fantasy league you have both guys throw an extra 10 bucks in the pot, haha.

The NFL has done that before. When Terrell Owens' agent forgot to file paperwork to make him a free agent, San Fran traded him to Baltimore for a 2nd. Owens objected and tried to sign with Philly on the open market. The NFL stepped in, gave Baltimore their 2nd back, and had Philly give San Fran a 5th and a player.

I don't see him back in Denver unless he takes an even larger cut to make up for the money he just cost the team.

He didn't actually cost the team anything. The team was carrying a pro-rated portion of his signing bonus on the 2014 and 2015 cap, and now that entire portion is counting against 2013. It's not like he's taking up more cap space, he's just taking it up in a different year now.In theory, Denver should be able to craft a contract that replicates the old one, right down to the dead money, simply by controlling the size of the signing bonus they give. That's what signing bonuses do- they push current money onto future seasons' caps. I might be missing something, but it should be possible to craft a 3 year deal that mirrors the compensation and cap hits of the revised contract they were trying to get Dumervil to sign in the first place.

so Elvis wants to be a bronco. His old contract was basically like this:2013: $8M2014: $10M ($3.5M guaranteed)2015: $8.2Mso here's how a new contract could work:$6m signing bonus2013: $2m2014: 10M2015: 8.2M2016: 8Messentially extends his contract by one year. Same 2013 money including signing bonus. counts rougly $8.3m against the cap this year.also, insist Elvis get new representation.

Hate on the agent all you want, but the agent wasn't the guy who waited until 30 minutes before the deadline before making up his mind. Elvis had all week to think it over. If he'd given his agent the green light to accept Denver's offer at, say, 11 AM... I doubt we're having this conversation now.I feel kind of bad for the agent, to be honest. This is the kind of mistake that could have major career implications for him. It's not his fault Dumervil changed his mind at the last minute.

 

[bonesman]

Now is not the time for finger pointing. Both parties wanted to get this done, time to hammer out another deal and move forward.