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Dwight Lowery - Jets FS? (1 Viewer)

Reaper

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I don't play IDP but, I found this story interesting - Also with the Jets front 7 much improved and Darrelle Revis looking like a real good CB and Rhodes at SS..... This kid sounds like a ballhawk and may get a real good opportunity at FS for some stats...

Any opinions?

Hello Jets Fans,

I just wanted to take a moment to share with the Jets community a little more insight as to Dwight Lowery the Football Player, as well as the person. Let me start by saying, though, Dwight is SO stoked to go and play for the NY Jets, and for all of you, the fans!!! He is already rocking NY Jets gear (he already had NY Jets apparel before he was drafted). He takes Football very seriously. He is a true student of the game and of the DB positions. He will do everything he can to contribute to the success of the NY Jets team and franchise. He wont let you down.

For those concerned, I assure you, he will not be a bust. Have faith in your FO. Your team has done more research than most. While most of you know that Dwight played Safety in JUCO, ...when the New England Patriots Defensive Coach and the General Manager for the Atlanta Falcons flew out here to visit with him, neither of them had any idea that Dwight played Safety during his time at the JC level. A couple so-called local teams here in CA didnt even know he played Safety. He is a very versatile player and has had many interceptions at both the CB and Safety positions. ...Keep in mind he played Safety at the JC level and Corner at the D-1 level, ...not the other way around. It is a much more difficult transition to go from Safety to Corner than it is Corner to Safety. Not only did he make this transition successfully, he did so while simultaneously making the jump to a higher level of game play (JUCO to D1). When he first went to SJ State, he wasnt given any respect and was looked at like a third stringer. Thats what everyone thought of him, even the coaching staff, ...until they started practicing. Dwight tore it up in practice and scrimmages and not only earned his starting position, but did well enough to co-lead the nation in interceptions his first year at that level and at that position, as well as earning his First Team All-American status. Keep in mind that while he had 13 picks in 25 games, ...he had 49, I believe, in his last 60 games. Thats just a sick stat. So savage. In one game he had 42 of his teams 52 points. That would even be savage in Basketball, but he did this in a Football game, 7 touchdowns.

Dwight has been working exceptionally hard since the season ended. He only took about 7-10 days before we were back at it, training hard in preparation for the NFL season, and working on his weaknesses. He is a better player now than he was even during last season, and he will continue to get better. As I said, he is a true student of the game and of the DB positions. Im sure under the tutelage of Mangini and the Jets defensive staff, he will continue to flourish as a player and he will definitely contribute to the success of of the NY Jets team and franchise. He wants to *dominate* every player he plays against, and he is willing to work his ### off to make it happen.

He isnt tiny as some people in this thread have said. He was the biggest defensive back at the East/West Shrine game, bigger than some of the linebackers. Hes 6 and a very lean and solid 202 lbs. (All natural) The men in his family, father, uncles, etc, have traditionally put on a little more size in their early to mid twenties. He will likely get up to 210, maybe even 215, naturally, WITHOUT losing any speed, especially with the way we train.

As for the whole speed issue. He went into the Combine having not been able to train much for 11 days due to a hamstring pull. It was somewhat a lose/lose situation for him as he would have been looked down upon had he not competed and yet was not anywhere near full capacity. Also, when he ran his drills on the first day, he was coming off of 2 hours sleep due to flight delays, missed flight, being left at the airport by the NFL, (seriously, that was lame), and being woken up early in the am for mandatory drug testing (all players were woken up for drug testing). By the time he actually was able to check-in and walked into his hotel room it was 11:00 pm Pacific, 2:00 am your time. He was woken up at 4:00 am your time for the mandatory drug testing, and after that it was to medical exams, etc. There was no time to sleep before he had to perform. ...During sprint training with his sprinting coach, Aaron Thigpenn, he ran a 4.34, 4.35, 4.31, and a 4.33. And as someone had mentioned, straight line speed does not translate to football speed. His football speed, though, is fast and explosive. His mentality is, there is no way in hell anyone else is going to get that ball.

I dont think either speed nor size will be an issue.

As I mentioned, he studies a LOT of film. During a meeting with the San Diego Chargers, Dwight ended up in a film room watching some game tape with the Head Coach, Norve Turner, and the Offensive Coaching staff. The footage was of Chargers games played last season against various opponents. He recognized a play they had run and knew right away that Norve Turner ran the EXACT same play against Deion Sanders and the Dallas Cowboys in 94 when he was with the San Francisco 49ers. (He showed me the play from the SF/Dallas game.) He almost belted it out, but held back at the last moment because, as he said, he didnt want them to know just how much he knows and studies the game, because he may well be playing against them. ...I dont think his study habits will be a problem.

As far as his numbers falling off somewhat his Senior year compared to his Junior year, part of that was he missed several games during the season. But another component that played a major factor was that teams quit throwing to him. (Hence, the nickname ECLIPSE). What is a CB to do when the team only throws to him twice in the whole game, or even 5 times in the whole game? Any corner, I dont care who they are, would have a tough time putting up high interception numbers if they only get challenged by the other team 2 to 5 times a game. During one game (please forgive me as I can not remember exactly which game it was) they did not throw to him the entire first half, ...until late within the last 2-minutes of the half because they wanted to try to score before half-time. The ONE pass they finally threw to the man he was covering, Dwight intercepted. It was so sick!

He has never really been taught how to tackle, either in high-school, Cabrillo, or SJ State. Just as he had never had any coaching in sprinting mechanics before working with Aaron Thigpenn shortly before the Combine, yet when he is taught something, he works it on his own repeatedly until he has it down. ...Then hell work it some more. He WANTS to tackle and lay people out. He has such a savage mentality of wanting to dominate every player he plays against. I love it! Again, under the tutelage of Mangini and the NY Jets defensive coaching staff, Im sure he will improve in his tackling if this is an area that he needs to work on.

Character issues will not be a problem as he is just not the type of person to end up in situations that would be bad for him or for the team. He is devoted to his sport, his craft and his family. Football, Family and his Faith are the most important things to him. (He often would drive back home from SJ--an hours commute--to watch his little sister while his mom was at work). He doesnt really drink at all, either. He has a strong sense of Honor and Loyalty and is one of the greater people I know. Over the years of getting to know Dwight, he has not only become one of my best friends, but is one of the very few people I can say I truly trust. I do NOT say that lightly. My trusting him completely speaks directly to his character and to who he is as a person. ...He will not end up in situations that would hurt the team.

Im not only his friend, but I happen to be his Strength-&-Conditioning Coach as well. Ive had the opportunity to work with him for over two years now. Ive worked with athletes on all levels from virtually all sports over my 11 years of Coaching thus far, many who have dominated in their sport. Dwight is by far one of the most disciplined athletes I have had an opportunity to work with. He has developed an unparalleled work ethic. He studies film on average, 5 times a week. He works on some aspect of his footwork and field drills 5 or 6 days a week. He trains with me about 5 days a week. He works sprinting mechanics and runs sprints several days a week. He stretches every day and works on his IT-Bands and other trigger points almost every day, sometimes twice a day. He watches his diet closely, often times weighing and measuring his food. He VERY rarely ever drinks. When he hits the gym, its always some aspect of the Olympic-Lifts (Clean-&-Jerk, Snatch, Split-Jerk, Power-Clean, Snatch-Balance, etc), the foundational lifts (Overhead-Squat, Back-Squat, Front-Squat, RDLs, Thrusters, etc), gymnastics elements (Iron-cross, weighted pull-ups, handstand-pushups, front-levers, back-levers, muscle-ups, etc), as well as various medicine-ball drills, plyometrics, core-work, etc, often while wearing a weighted vest and weighted compression shorts. We will often hit these movements after an all out sprint, so he is getting exposure to a violent and explosive movement while at max heart-rate. He is training not only to be strong, fast and explosive, but to be strong, fast and explosive while at max heart-rates, as well as maximizeing his recovery time. ...Remember the Monday Night Football game back in 2000, the Miracle at the Meadowlands? ...The Jets comeback over the Dolphins, where, after being hopelessly down 30-7 at the end of the third quarter, the NY Jets didnt take a single huddle in the fourth quarter and came back to win, 40-37. (I believe it was the biggest comeback in Monday Night Football History.) ...Dwight is preparing himself for such events. (That was one of my favorite games of all time, btw.)

I am not trying to talk up our strength-&-conditioning program, nor am I trying to inflate Dwights image. Im trying to let you, the fans, know just how serious this kid is about football, and that when he is training, he is busting his ### working on elements that are going to directly transfer to his ability to perform. He wants to learn and he wants to improve, and he hes willing to work hard for it. He wants to dominate the DB posistions. ...Ultimately though, none of what I say matters. Im not trying to convince you or prove to you Dwights worth. That will be up to Dwight to do. He will prove his worth. He will earn your trust and respect, not only by what he does on the field, but by how he carries himself off the field.

Sorry for the length of this post, and thank you for your time. ...There is a huge evolution of Jets fans here in the Bay Area. I cant wait till the season starts!!!

Jason J-Dogg Highbarger

crossfitnsc.com

crossfitog.blogspot.com

Jets Fans Community,

Again, thank you for your time. As I said, I just wanted to share with all of you a little more insight as to who your team chose with their third pick. I know Dwight will work hard to represent the NY Jets Team, Franchise, and community of loyal Fans, well.

As for regular updates, ...I'll continue with updates when I can, so long as Dwight is cool with it and I have his permission to do so. Understand though, I won't be discussing his personal life. ...You never know, ...he might start posting here sometime when he gets a chance. ...He's busy studying the play book right now though.

Just to clarify, while I have been working with Dwight for over two years now, I am definitely NOT the Strength-&-Conditioning Coach for SJSU. I am my own independent S&C Coach working out of CrossFit North Santa Cruz, and have been with CrossFit for over ten years. Dwight and I work together privately in a 1-on-1 setting. Personally, I have a lot of problems with the SJSU strength program. I pretty much think it sucks. Bodybuilding like you see in the magazines does not translate to performance on the field or in any sport for that matter. SJSU doesn’t have Olympic-Lifts because, as the head Strength Coach at SJSU says; “Not everyone can learn them”. ...Which is absolute BS. Hearing such a comment by a S&C Coach for a University is infuriating. What it really comes down to is that he either isn’t confident in his ability to effectively teach the movements, or he simply doesn’t want to take the time to teach everyone. I think it’s a combination of the two. Being a good Coach requires, among other things, being a good teacher. While people do learn different things at different paces, EVERYONE can learn the movements if they have a Coach who is willing to work with all the athletes and invest the time necessary to ensure that every student and athlete learns the movements.

But let me digress. (Sorry. “My bad.”) ...Sometimes I really don’t mind being the guy who says what needs to be said.

As for the questions regarding where Dwight could play, I know it might sound like a generic answer, but I know Dwight would embrace whichever role the Coaching Staff felt he was best suited for.

I know he will do well as a Punt Returner on Special Teams. As for the CB or Safety debate, ...In all sincerity, I truly feel that Dwight has all the potential to become one of the few TRUE “shut down corners”. (I know they are very rare.) I don’t make that statement as a friend of Dwight’s, but as a Coach. Based on his intelligence and his understanding of the game, as well as his outstanding work-ethic, he really could become a true shut down corner. While it might be a bit of an adjustment, I think he will definitely be able to adjust to the “speed of the game” at the next level and be successful in covering the top receivers in the game. He studies the tendencies of QB’s and Receivers and acknowledges the subtleties, almost like how a professional poker player “reads” their opponents.

With that said, however, I think he might enjoy the Safety position a little more as it plays well into his strengths and gives him more freedom to see the plays developing and make a play on the ball. As many of you have acknowledged, he is a real “ball hawk”. He has great anticipation and instincts. His ability to read plays and see things developing, combined with his attention to detail when it comes to studying the tendencies of quarterbacks and receivers, play well into the Safety position. And as nyjetsfan mentioned, it might be a faster or smoother transition adjusting to Safety at the next level than it would be Corner. In the Friday night game that was televised during prime-time on ESPN, (Hawaii @ SJSU), when he got the interception during the first play of the second half, he recognized the play and said it was the exact same play that Hawaii ran to start the first half. For those who missed that game, he ALMOST had TWO interceptions in that game (the “almost” one still pisses him off.--He feel’s he shoulda had that one). He also had San Jose’s first 2 touchdowns, one off of the interception he made to start the second half that he ran back for a TD, and one off a Punt-Return that he ran back for a TD near the end of the first half. ...That game was put on ESPN prime-time to showcase Colt Brennan, but I think Dwight kinda took Colt’s thunder and stole the show. The broadcasters said at one point, “Hawaii, 14, Dwight Lowery, 14.” lol (There is a pic of him making that interception on the NY Jets web site in the lil photo album they have of Dwight. He actually took it right out of the receivers hands the very instant he caught it. It was almost instantaneous. If you have an opportunity to actually watch the play, it was funny as hell because the receiver literally did a double take, looking to his right, then back at his hands, then to his right again to watch Dwight running into the end zone. I think for a moment he wasn’t even sure just what had happened. It was so funny. ...A good receiver too.)

While I truly feel that Dwight has the potential to become a true shut down corner, it might be a smoother transition for him starting at Safety. He is confident in his abilities at both positions and he likes both positions, but I know he really likes the idea of playing Safety as it gives him more freedom to make plays on the ball when he sees plays developing. As 1968jetsfan stated, the Safety position plays very well into his strengths, his instincts and great anticipation skills, and his ability to read plays and see things developing. I don’t have any doubt in his abilities as Corner, but I think he would enjoy the Safety position more.

...Ultimately though, it somewhat doesn’t matter much what we as fans think. It will be up to Mangini and the Defensive Coaching Staff to decide the best fit for Dwight into the NY Jets system depending on what they are trying to do on Defense.

...Regardless of what position Dwight ends up playing in the NFL, I truly believe that he has all the potential to become one of the best Defensive players to ever play the game. ...I make that statement as both, a Coach *and* his Friend.

Jason “J-Dogg” Highbarger

crossfitnsc.com

crossfitog.blogspot.com

 
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Isn't Rhodes the FS?
I guess that's all up for debate.... Does it matter for IDP leagues FS or SS?Where's Rovers been?Either way... I think this kid might have a great opportunity... Could even be at CB?
Thanks for the information Reaper. :confused:Based on what Bill Belichick has done in the past, I'd guess that Mangini would like to be able to use a less interchangeable alignment with his safeties, but the relatively corner play (before Revis) and free safety coverage has necessitated using Rhodes in coverage frequently over the past season and a half.If the Jets can find a solid cover FS (not Elam) and an average second corner, Rhodes probably moves into a more Rodney Harrison like role similar to what he was in early 2006.
 
Isn't Rhodes the FS?
I guess that's all up for debate.... Does it matter for IDP leagues FS or SS?
I would say so. Not many FS score as much as SS. In the leagues I play in, there are about 7 or so FS that were in the top 30 in scoring.
The interchangeable thing gets confusing, but I think I'd classify 12 of the top 15 safeties in FBG scoring last year as SS. That doesn't include Gibril Wilson and Kerry Rhodes, who may have been listed on the depth chart as FS, but are used very much like strong safeties. That's really the key in most tackle neutral leagues -- who gets (or takes advantage of) the most run support opportunity. Coverage opportunity and ball skills are important, but are often less consistent in the boxscore.The only cover FS last year in the top 15 was Atogwe and he's been boosted in the last two seasons by well above average big play stats.And despite the skew toward strong safeties last year, 2006 had a number of FS in the top fifteen safeties. Getting a little off topic now, but the above is the reason that using defaults without considering the details is risky.
 
The 2007 depth chart on nfl.com says Rhodes was the SS, but as Jene stated, some SS and FS are interchangeable. It's definitely preferable to have the SS though, they score higher and more consistently. Our league is splitting the S/CB positions next year, which I generally like, but with Rhodes already on my team, it doesn't make sense for me to draft Lowery if he is indeed a FS.

News of moving Lowery to FS is somewhat surprising since he played CB so well in college. He was projected as a round 2/3 pick after his 9-int season, however a decrease in numbers combined with slowish 40 didn't help his case.

I'm probably one of 4 SJSU fans on the FBG forums and I saw Lowery play many times. SJSU doesn't get many players gifted players through its program, and when someone like Lowery arrives, it's really, really obvious. James Jones WR GBP was very good, but Lowery overshadowed Jones by a fair margin. We used to marvel at how often the opposition would run plays to Lowery's side maybe 5-7 times in the first half and then run all their offensive plays on the other side of the field in the second half -- he literally took half the field away from the other team. Lowery's game speed is a lot faster than his 40, he's got incredible instincts, great vision, very good closing speed, and is a natural ball hawk. He was also a very good punt/kick returner, which should add some value.

Dwight's numbers dropped in 2008 for quite a few reasons, mostly unrelated to his performance:

SJSU was not generally a very good team.

Their offense didn't score points, so opponents could stick to the run.

The run defense was bad, so teams kept on running.

Everyone knew about Lowery by then, so they played on the oppposite side of the field.

He missed a few games.

I agree with his conditioning coach in that Lowery has shutdown corner potential. Lowery simply looked like a man amongst boys in college and he's got the motivation, skills, and tenacity to be one of the best. I hope he gets to stay at CB to prove it (and so I can draft him!), but he'll be very successful at either position.

 
The 2007 depth chart on nfl.com says Rhodes was the SS, but as Jene stated, some SS and FS are interchangeable. It's definitely preferable to have the SS though, they score higher and more consistently. Our league is splitting the S/CB positions next year, which I generally like, but with Rhodes already on my team, it doesn't make sense for me to draft Lowery if he is indeed a FS.News of moving Lowery to FS is somewhat surprising since he played CB so well in college. He was projected as a round 2/3 pick after his 9-int season, however a decrease in numbers combined with slowish 40 didn't help his case.I'm probably one of 4 SJSU fans on the FBG forums and I saw Lowery play many times. SJSU doesn't get many players gifted players through its program, and when someone like Lowery arrives, it's really, really obvious. James Jones WR GBP was very good, but Lowery overshadowed Jones by a fair margin. We used to marvel at how often the opposition would run plays to Lowery's side maybe 5-7 times in the first half and then run all their offensive plays on the other side of the field in the second half -- he literally took half the field away from the other team. Lowery's game speed is a lot faster than his 40, he's got incredible instincts, great vision, very good closing speed, and is a natural ball hawk. He was also a very good punt/kick returner, which should add some value.Dwight's numbers dropped in 2008 for quite a few reasons, mostly unrelated to his performance:SJSU was not generally a very good team.Their offense didn't score points, so opponents could stick to the run.The run defense was bad, so teams kept on running.Everyone knew about Lowery by then, so they played on the oppposite side of the field.He missed a few games.I agree with his conditioning coach in that Lowery has shutdown corner potential. Lowery simply looked like a man amongst boys in college and he's got the motivation, skills, and tenacity to be one of the best. I hope he gets to stay at CB to prove it (and so I can draft him!), but he'll be very successful at either position.
Nice.. Love to hear it.. :goodposting:
 
Hey guys,

I'm a big fan of Dwight Lowery the person and a believer in him as a player, but there's some hyperbole and exaggeration in some of these posts. I think it's obvious from the first post that the person being quoted is pretty fired up. That often leads to making too much of a case to sway opinion, imo.

I see every Pac 10 team play any game it plays if I remember to record it. I discovered James Jones this way, as SJSU gets some Pac 10 teams on the schedule every year. Both Jones and Lowery were clearly outstanding players capable of competing against any level of competition, but I would disagree that Lowery ever looked quite as spectacular as described here. Jones was a beast, a true man among boys. Lowery was a very very good ballplayer.

He was very close to coming out early after leading the nation in picks as a Junior with a round 2 or 3 grade. Maybe he should have. Very early in his first game last year (against ASU) he got beat badly on a simple out and up for a 25 yard TD and some started questioning his man coverage ability and speed. He is awesome in a zone, reading the QB, breaking on balls, and has as good a hands as any DB anywhere. But in man his lack of quicks and long recovery speed exposed him; thus, the belief that he may be best off at FS. I concur with that, but in no way do I think he would fail at corner. This kid is a winner. Another thing that should be pointed out is that while he thrives in a ballhawking zone role, he was part of the run defense problem too. He missed a lot of tackles against Stanford and even shied away from Toby Gerhart on one play that led to him pretty much being run over as Toby went in for a 15 yard TD run. I felt a little bad for him as his draft stock, which he'd hope to raise to a solid 1st round grade, was slipping. He is the type of kid you pull for, and his reputation was taking some blows. In the Hawaii game he got off to a great start. Picking Brennan for six and taking that punt back, but Colt recovered nicely. He threw for almost 600 yards on SJSU and took no prisoners, including Lowery, who was beaten over and over again by Rivers, Grice-Mullen and Bess, who all caught a dozen or more passes (no kidding). It cannot be said that Brennan avoided Lowery. He attacked him repeatedly, and the question marks about Lowery's speed and man coverage ability started looking major. I actually felt bad for him after that game despite the two tds. They got blown out the next week at Boise State and Lowery was the only kid on that defense to show up. You could see the heart and the fire and the disappointment too.

Lowery is a player who would have been a star at any program in the country. I think he translates best to FS. I think he'd be a fine, possibly highly productive, cover 2 corner. I think he should have been drafted a little higher and the Jets got a keeper who will start for them, maybe as soon as the opener. But some of the praise in this thread does not match what I saw last year, and why the draftnik community reported his sort of unfortunate falling stock through last season, or why he did end up falling to the 4th round. The descriptions in this thread sound like he's a top 10 prospect. He's not, but he's a good player and the Jets will be happy with him personally. Exactly the kind of character they say they seek. Truly lives for football.

 
Where have I been? Started up a new biz, and working dawn to dusk lately. But, nice to know I was mssed!... although after CC's post, not sure I couls add any insight, other that to say that my gut feel is that Lowery will be tried at CB first, and safety second.

Mangini likes CB's who can blitz and come up and make tough tackles on the outside. See Barret...... I think Lowery can cover better than Barrett can, and he's survived because he can tackle. Dyson was the cover type corner, and he got cut. That is the TC battle I predict... Lowery v. Barrett. If Lowery loses, he goes into the safety rotation.

While Mangini's system is not cover 2, it has elements of it. Like NE's D, it is a complex scheme, and just because Lowery may not have typical CB cover speed, he may end up there. Mangini tries to have DB's that can be moved around as much as possible. Lowery fits that philosophy. Mangini wants turnovers. He doesn't care how, and Lowery has a nose for the ball. That more than anything is why the Jets drafted him.... a DB with hands that can make INT's.

At this point, any commentary on Lowery is pure guesswork. Until TC opens, any opinion is as good as the next. As usual, I'll be there....

 
Where have I been? Started up a new biz, and working dawn to dusk lately. But, nice to know I was mssed!... although after CC's post, not sure I couls add any insight, other that to say that my gut feel is that Lowery will be tried at CB first, and safety second. Mangini likes CB's who can blitz and come up and make tough tackles on the outside. See Barret...... I think Lowery can cover better than Barrett can, and he's survived because he can tackle. Dyson was the cover type corner, and he got cut. That is the TC battle I predict... Lowery v. Barrett. If Lowery loses, he goes into the safety rotation. While Mangini's system is not cover 2, it has elements of it. Like NE's D, it is a complex scheme, and just because Lowery may not have typical CB cover speed, he may end up there. Mangini tries to have DB's that can be moved around as much as possible. Lowery fits that philosophy. Mangini wants turnovers. He doesn't care how, and Lowery has a nose for the ball. That more than anything is why the Jets drafted him.... a DB with hands that can make INT's. At this point, any commentary on Lowery is pure guesswork. Until TC opens, any opinion is as good as the next. As usual, I'll be there....
:mellow: Best Of Luck - What kind of business?Man, I was dying for some Rovers insight at draft time......In the end I think Gholston was best possible scenario this side of some crazy insane trade down where they stock piled late 1sts and or early 2nd's which I ALWAYS look for that rarely if evenr happens....Good stuff....Like I said up top, I don't play IDP - Just throwing it out to you guys and the fact that I think this kid will have a great opportunity on a defense where the spot he plays wethe that be FS or CB might be the spot offense try to pick on - The spot with a ton of opportunity....Maybe I'll catch you at training camp since this wil be the last one on LI.
 
Where have I been? Started up a new biz, and working dawn to dusk lately. But, nice to know I was mssed!... although after CC's post, not sure I couls add any insight, other that to say that my gut feel is that Lowery will be tried at CB first, and safety second. Mangini likes CB's who can blitz and come up and make tough tackles on the outside. See Barret...... I think Lowery can cover better than Barrett can, and he's survived because he can tackle. Dyson was the cover type corner, and he got cut. That is the TC battle I predict... Lowery v. Barrett. If Lowery loses, he goes into the safety rotation. While Mangini's system is not cover 2, it has elements of it. Like NE's D, it is a complex scheme, and just because Lowery may not have typical CB cover speed, he may end up there. Mangini tries to have DB's that can be moved around as much as possible. Lowery fits that philosophy. Mangini wants turnovers. He doesn't care how, and Lowery has a nose for the ball. That more than anything is why the Jets drafted him.... a DB with hands that can make INT's. At this point, any commentary on Lowery is pure guesswork. Until TC opens, any opinion is as good as the next. As usual, I'll be there....
Landscaping biz.... had no idea how busy I would be so fast. I wake up at 6, come home at 8, and then do pesticide contracts, billings, accounting stuff till near midnight, and manage to eat once a day at dinner time. Been nuts. Thanks for asking. I'm VERY happy with the Gholston pick, and think Keller was a NE match-up based pick. He's a WR who will play a Cooley type role in this offense, trying for mismatches looking for a LB to get caught covering Keller. I think there are few LB's who can cover Keller, and especially the NE LB corp. Intersting pick by the Jets.... and not one I dislike. Can't wait for my rookie IDP dynasty drafts t start up this month! I stockpiled picks, so it should be fun! Reaper, I'll be at camp this year, likely on Mondays and Fridays. If you go, let me know! :unsure: Best Of Luck - What kind of business?Man, I was dying for some Rovers insight at draft time......In the end I think Gholston was best possible scenario this side of some crazy insane trade down where they stock piled late 1sts and or early 2nd's which I ALWAYS look for that rarely if evenr happens....Good stuff....Like I said up top, I don't play IDP - Just throwing it out to you guys and the fact that I think this kid will have a great opportunity on a defense where the spot he plays wethe that be FS or CB might be the spot offense try to pick on - The spot with a ton of opportunity....Maybe I'll catch you at training camp since this wil be the last one on LI.
 
I know it's only pre-season, but he's off to a good start with 7 solos, 1 INT, and a punt return for TD.
According to the depth chart Lowery is backing up Revis. Looking at the play by play Miller was in with the starters, at the same time as Revis. Barrett was in action prior to Lowery too but either for very short time or the Browns played pick on the rookie (Lowery) while they were in the field at the same time...After a while it seems to have been Coleman and Lowery on the field together but Lowery was in there for at least two full quarters
 
I know it's only pre-season, but he's off to a good start with 7 solos, 1 INT, and a punt return for TD.
According to the depth chart Lowery is backing up Revis. Looking at the play by play Miller was in with the starters, at the same time as Revis. Barrett was in action prior to Lowery too but either for very short time or the Browns played pick on the rookie (Lowery) while they were in the field at the same time...After a while it seems to have been Coleman and Lowery on the field together but Lowery was in there for at least two full quarters
Yeah, looks like the following DB's starting for the Jets...CB - RevisCB - MillerFS - RhodesSS - Smith
 
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Lowery is making such progress, don't be surprised to see him starting opposite Darrelle Revis at some point this season. He appears to be that much of a find for the Jets.

Mangini said he thought Lowery's INT in the Cleveland game "was a really good look at what we saw in college" from him.

GANG GREEN KEEPS EYE ON TRIO GRAND

By MARK CANNIZZARO

David Clowney, Brett Ratliff & Dwight LoweryLast updated: 7:58 am

Lost in the avalanche of euphoria and excitement surrounding Brett Favre's trade to the JetsNew York Jets was the performance of three young players who made impressive debuts in their preseason opener Thursday in Cleveland.

Now, as Saturday's preseason home opener against the Redskins approaches, the question for receiver David ClowneyDavid Clowney , cornerback Dwight Lowery and quarterback Brett RatliffBrett Ratliff is this: What can you do for an encore?

Lowery, a fourth-round draft pick in April, essentially won the game for the Jets. His 62-yard punt return for a TD with 10:02 remaining gave them the 24-20 lead they would win by. And, his INT of Browns QB Ken Dorsey in the Jet end zone with 4:02 left in the game helped seal the victory.

Interestingly, lack of speed is a reason Lowery slipped to the fourth round, timed at about a 4.6 in the 40 before the draft. The Jets, though, overlooked the speed issue and focused more on his ball skills.

"I feel like I have speed," Lowery said. "It's one thing to line up in a stance and there's no one chasing you. I'm not a track guy. I play football. When you put the pads on and it's competition and you're going against people, that's when you really find out what guys can do."

Lowery is making such progress, don't be surprised to see him starting opposite Darrelle Revis at some point this season. He appears to be that much of a find for the Jets.

Mangini said he thought Lowery's INT in the Cleveland game "was a really good look at what we saw in college" from him.

Ratliff, whose wife gave birth to their first child the day after the Cleveland game, had quite a week.

mark.cannizzaro @nypost.com

 
I drafted Lowery in my last Dynasty of the yr believing that he'll crack the starting line up some way.

Barrett and his 3.6M should be cut very soon to make a little more breathing room in the cap. Miller seems like more of a nickle CB... but the Jets are going to give him a shot at the starting line up, maybe he'll be pulled away from the KR (no more fumbled Returns).

This news of them trying him out as the FS assured me that my insticts were correct and Lowery will be playing on game day.... and if he could provide coverage protection... as pointed out before, Kerry will be an IDP monster again.

 
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If he starts at corner, Lowery is everything you look for in a picked on rookie corner.
That's GOOD for IDP right?

The CB with OPPORTUNITY? A team that looks like it will finally stop the run and have a pass rush and you have a potential ball hawk at the "picked on" CB spot......

Again I don't play IDP but, I think this kid looks real good.

 
If he starts at corner, Lowery is everything you look for in a picked on rookie corner.
That's GOOD for IDP right?The CB with OPPORTUNITY? A team that looks like it will finally stop the run and have a pass rush and you have a potential ball hawk at the "picked on" CB spot......

Again I don't play IDP but, I think this kid looks real good.
This can be very good for IDP, but like everything else, it's not automatic. The best thing about it is you can often get rookie CBs for cheap.

 
If he starts at corner, Lowery is everything you look for in a picked on rookie corner.
That's GOOD for IDP right?The CB with OPPORTUNITY? A team that looks like it will finally stop the run and have a pass rush and you have a potential ball hawk at the "picked on" CB spot......

Again I don't play IDP but, I think this kid looks real good.
This can be very good for IDP, but like everything else, it's not automatic. The best thing about it is you can often get rookie CBs for cheap.
:confused: They're almost giving then away. :yes:
 
Interesting - Barrett was played at safety. From Jets Confidential:

On the Giants second offensive possession of the Jets-Giants preseason game, Jets cornerback David Barrett was being used at safety. Could a position change be in the offing?Remember, the Jets lost veteran safety Artrell Hawkins to retirement earlier this month, so they are down a body at the position.
Obviously, nothing set in stone yet, but with the Miller injury this would suggest that Lowery is more likely to start at CB. Not to hijack, but does Barrett have value if he moves to S? Kerry Rhodes and Harris are going to eat up a lot of tackle opportunities, and Pace has looked awesome in the games I've seen. (I didn't see this past weekend's game).
 
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Not to hijack, but does Barrett have value if he moves to S? Kerry Rhodes and Harris are going to eat up a lot of tackle opportunities, and Pace has looked awesome in the games I've seen. (I didn't see this past weekend's game).
I think the move to safety isn't likely to be a good thing for Barrett as it seems like they don't think he can cut it as a CB anymore and they are giving him another way to make the roster. If he does make the team, it would probably only be as a 4th safety behind Rhodes, Smith, and Elam so he's unlikely to get regular playing time. He's a nice fit though because he can also provide depth at CB if they need him to, which fits with the Mangini/Belichick connection of wanting guys to be able to play multiple positions. However, it sounds like Lowery, Justin Miller, Drew Coleman, and maybe even Hank Poteat are all ahead of him at CB now.
 
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