[DYNASTY] 2007 Draft - Peterson vs. Lynch (1 Viewer)

[EBF]

Any thoughts on these two RBs? Peterson has been receiving tons of hype since his freshman year, but I don't think he's necessarily head-and-shoulders above Lynch. I'm in the paradoxically enviable and embarrassing position of holding 1.01 in one of my leagues, so I'll be watching these two closely. Just looking at their highlights, I don't think there's a huge gap between the two.

Peterson looks to have great instincts, good power, and quick feet, but he's taller than ideal for a RB, he runs high, and he has injury issues. I have no doubt that he'll be effective in the NFL, but he might not have what it takes to hold up to the beating.

Physically, Lynch better seems to fit the mold of today's top NFL backs. He's built lower to the ground and he runs lower. He's pretty quick and he runs hard. It's tough to think of players to compare him to, but he kind of reminds me of Thomas Jones.

It's early, but I think you can start to cement Lynch, Peterson, C. Johnson, Jarrett, and Ginn as the clear top five offensive prospects from this draft for FF purposes. All five could conceivably end up being the best player from the draft. Johnson and Peterson look like the surest bets to make an impact, but Ginn's speed jumps off the screen. He could be special.

 

[coolnerd]

Well, if it is too much of a burden, you don't have to stay at number 1 .

Assuming you stay there, my question would be do you think that Peterson can give you a handful of dynamic years versus Lynch who in my mind has a better chance to be solid for a longer period of time. IMO, the Lynch type upside players come along pretty much one or two every year, but the upside of Peterson not as often.

As for WR, my bet is that only one of these become a consistent fantasy WR1. Even though, I think that Calvin Johnson maybe the safest bet in the early portion of the draft, I do wonder some about the several games where he has been shut out. (and I know poor QB, conservative O and no real help). Ginn i change my mind on almost daily. Jarrett i think has been getting too much comparison to the last handful of USC WRs.

 

[Raagsreth]

As far as running backs go, I've never seen a huge difference between Peterson/Lynch and it should come down to situation for rookie drafts but I'm sure most will go Peterson due to his name. I think if you need a RB and you have the 1st or 2nd pick you can't go wrong, but after the 3rd (assume Irons) it starts to get shakey for the backs.

 

[Ed Wood]

Bump.

 

[ffchamp1]

Any thoughts on these two RBs? Peterson has been receiving tons of hype since his freshman year, but I don't think he's necessarily head-and-shoulders above Lynch. I'm in the paradoxically enviable and embarrassing position of holding 1.01 in one of my leagues, so I'll be watching these two closely. Just looking at their highlights, I don't think there's a huge gap between the two. Peterson looks to have great instincts, good power, and quick feet, but he's taller than ideal for a RB, he runs high, and he has injury issues. I have no doubt that he'll be effective in the NFL, but he might not have what it takes to hold up to the beating. Physically, Lynch better seems to fit the mold of today's top NFL backs. He's built lower to the ground and he runs lower. He's pretty quick and he runs hard. It's tough to think of players to compare him to, but he kind of reminds me of Thomas Jones. It's early, but I think you can start to cement Lynch, Peterson, C. Johnson, Jarrett, and Ginn as the clear top five offensive prospects from this draft for FF purposes. All five could conceivably end up being the best player from the draft. Johnson and Peterson look like the surest bets to make an impact, but Ginn's speed jumps off the screen. He could be special.

At pick 1:01 you are going to have to look at Peterson but Lynch will most likely be the better play. Both had very good college careers and both proved to be a bit brittle. The one thing that I love about Lynch is his one cut ability. I believe Peterson will go very high (top 10) and will play on a bad team, but I see Lynch going to a team picking in the 20's and while he may sit, ala S-Jax, he may be able to get a starting job on a good team.I don't have the numbers in front of me but as I watched Peterson and his 30+ carry games, I told myself to stay away if I had the opportunity to pick him...I think he has bust potentialAs far as the WR's, Johnson will get the hype but Jarrett will be a great Pro. I am not a fan of Ginn but a player that I really like this year is Steve Smith. This is a guy who I believe is every bit as good as Mark Clayton but will most likely be a late first day pick. Tom

 

[EBF]

Any thoughts on these two RBs? Peterson has been receiving tons of hype since his freshman year, but I don't think he's necessarily head-and-shoulders above Lynch. I'm in the paradoxically enviable and embarrassing position of holding 1.01 in one of my leagues, so I'll be watching these two closely. Just looking at their highlights, I don't think there's a huge gap between the two. Peterson looks to have great instincts, good power, and quick feet, but he's taller than ideal for a RB, he runs high, and he has injury issues. I have no doubt that he'll be effective in the NFL, but he might not have what it takes to hold up to the beating. Physically, Lynch better seems to fit the mold of today's top NFL backs. He's built lower to the ground and he runs lower. He's pretty quick and he runs hard. It's tough to think of players to compare him to, but he kind of reminds me of Thomas Jones. It's early, but I think you can start to cement Lynch, Peterson, C. Johnson, Jarrett, and Ginn as the clear top five offensive prospects from this draft for FF purposes. All five could conceivably end up being the best player from the draft. Johnson and Peterson look like the surest bets to make an impact, but Ginn's speed jumps off the screen. He could be special.

At pick 1:01 you are going to have to look at Peterson but Lynch will most likely be the better play. Both had very good college careers and both proved to be a bit brittle. The one thing that I love about Lynch is his one cut ability. I believe Peterson will go very high (top 10) and will play on a bad team, but I see Lynch going to a team picking in the 20's and while he may sit, ala S-Jax, he may be able to get a starting job on a good team.I don't have the numbers in front of me but as I watched Peterson and his 30+ carry games, I told myself to stay away if I had the opportunity to pick him...I think he has bust potentialAs far as the WR's, Johnson will get the hype but Jarrett will be a great Pro. I am not a fan of Ginn but a player that I really like this year is Steve Smith. This is a guy who I believe is every bit as good as Mark Clayton but will most likely be a late first day pick. Tom

It's a very interesting crop this year. I can honestly say that Jarrett, Ginn, Johnson, Lynch, and Peterson all have star potential. I can definitely see us looking back a few years from now saying, "Boy, why didn't we see Ted Ginn coming?" Reality is that any one of these five guys could emerge as a beast at the professional level. How can you predict which one(s)? Good luck. Your guess is as good as mine with these five. They all look excellent. That said, I don't think the gap between Lynch and Peterson is necessarily that big. I think both will be top 15 picks and I think both have a chance to be effective right away. People seem to act like Peterson is the second coming of God, but I don't view him as being head and shoulders above guys like Lynch and Jarrett.In a PPR, I think you can actually make a very good case for Calvin Johnson as the first pick. He doesn't have the monster potential of Peterson, but he looks like the safest pick in the draft. At worst, I see a Keyshawn-type career from him. At best, he could be another Holt or Harrison (in terms of production). On the other hand, I won't be the least bit surprised if Jarrett or Ginn is outplaying him three years from now.

 

[Ack88]

So much of a players value lies in what team selects him and the role the player will have. For me, I don't actually rank the players until I see where the end up. I like both Lynch and Peterson, but if Lynch ends up in Denver and Peterson in Houston, than the choice is pretty easy, even though Peterson is the better overall RB.

 

[lod2005]

Lynch is better. Lynch looks like Tomlinson, Peterson looks like Eric Dickerson. I'll take the one that can avoid the big hit better. Also like Ack88 said, it depends where they go. Peterson will go 1st to a worse team. Lynch has a chance to go to the Jets and run behind D'Brickashaw. That makes him the pick, especially if Peterson goes to Oakland. If Peterson goes to Houston AND they get a new QB, that offense will be damn good and he will score a ton. Then it's a toss up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agiNBv_cl5o

 

[-OZ-]

Lynch is better. Lynch looks like Tomlinson, Peterson looks like Eric Dickerson. I'll take the one that can avoid the big hit better. Also like Ack88 said, it depends where they go. Peterson will go 1st to a worse team. Lynch has a chance to go to the Jets and run behind D'Brickashaw. That makes him the pick, especially if Peterson goes to Oakland. If Peterson goes to Houston AND they get a new QB, that offense will be damn good and he will score a ton. Then it's a toss up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agiNBv_cl5o

Whichever RB NY pick up this year (unless of course they decide to stick with Houston) will jet up the dynasty boards. I'm still not sure that I'd take Lynch ahead of AD, but it becomes very close.

 

[B. Nugget]

Lynch is better. Lynch looks like Tomlinson, Peterson looks like Eric Dickerson. I'll take the one that can avoid the big hit better. Also like Ack88 said, it depends where they go. Peterson will go 1st to a worse team. Lynch has a chance to go to the Jets and run behind D'Brickashaw. That makes him the pick, especially if Peterson goes to Oakland. If Peterson goes to Houston AND they get a new QB, that offense will be damn good and he will score a ton. Then it's a toss up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agiNBv_cl5o

I'm confused about the Jets comments. If they make the playoffs, do you guys think Lynch will fall that far in the draft? I would bet that if Lynch is as good as advertised, he would go to Green Bay or even a surprise team that won't let that kind of talent pass them by. Am I missing an early pick that they have via trade or something?

 

[Colin Dowling]

Peterson by far, but probably because I've seen him play a lot more.

 

[Chaos Commish]

People seem to act like Peterson is the second coming of God...

Guilty as charged. BUT, I agree with everything you're saying and wonder about everything you're asking. It's nice to read someone being reasonable about Ginn, btw. He "could" be the best of the WRs at the next level. Anyway, back to the backs.I wub Peterson. But, I agree there may not be that much separating him from Lynch. I think they are very similar in almost every category, and they both register off the charts in those categories. These are very VERY good prospects. Peterson is faster therefore the better homerun hitter. He may be more sudden through the hole, but Lynch just isn't far behind. I agree we need to see where they both end up.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

There is a "wow" factor with Peterson that just isn't there for me with Lynch. I've only seen a handful of Lynch's games, and each time I came away with the impression that he was a very good runner. Similar to Carnell Williams in skill level in my mind. Peterson really stands out. Bush and Slaton are the only two players I've seen recently who have the burst and suddeness of Peterson, but he has a substantial size/power advantage on them.

I'm holding the number 1 pick in a dynasty draft next year and I can't imagine a scenario that would prompt me to trade down to the #2 spot, regardless of what teams they are drafted to. (It's a contract dynasty league so I'm obvioulsy not counting trades for LT or LJ)

 

[VaCatFan]

There is a "wow" factor with Peterson that just isn't there for me with Lynch. I've only seen a handful of Lynch's games, and each time I came away with the impression that he was a very good runner. Similar to Carnell Williams in skill level in my mind. Peterson really stands out. Bush and Slaton are the only two players I've seen recently who have the burst and suddeness of Peterson, but he has a substantial size/power advantage on them. I'm holding the number 1 pick in a dynasty draft next year and I can't imagine a scenario that would prompt me to trade down to the #2 spot, regardless of what teams they are drafted to. (It's a contract dynasty league so I'm obvioulsy not counting trades for LT or LJ)

Sitting on top of #1 and #3 next year in my dynasty league. I'll get 2 out of the 3 of Peterson, Lynch, and CJohnson, but I think I'd be more inclined to move the picks for known studs. I'm just not expecting to see much of an offer for any of the picks and I highly doubt that the owners of LJ or LT are planning to send them my way.

 

[Bruno2]

The one that thing that really that impressed me when I saw Peterson play in person was that he got noticeably stronger in the 3rd and 4th quarter. I saw him play against Oregon, and early on he didn't look like a special player. Then as the game advanced and the defense started to tire, he looked like a completely different back. Breaking tackles, hitting holes very quickly and ripping off long runs. IMO if he can put the injuries behind him, he looks like a guy who can carry the load at the NFL level.

 

[-OZ-]

Lynch is better. Lynch looks like Tomlinson, Peterson looks like Eric Dickerson. I'll take the one that can avoid the big hit better. Also like Ack88 said, it depends where they go. Peterson will go 1st to a worse team. Lynch has a chance to go to the Jets and run behind D'Brickashaw. That makes him the pick, especially if Peterson goes to Oakland. If Peterson goes to Houston AND they get a new QB, that offense will be damn good and he will score a ton. Then it's a toss up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agiNBv_cl5o

Steven Jackson fell to 1.24 in 2004. LJ to 1.27 / McGahee to 1.23 in 2003 (granted injury caused that fall)

Deuce to 1.21 in 2001.

If the Jets don't make the playoffs, it wouldn't be overly surprising if he fell to them.

 

[ILoveMyLions]

I'm very interested in the Lynch vs. Peterson debate. I"m considering moving up to #2 to get either and would like to hear more discussion about it. I have only seen Lynch twice this year; the bowl game being one and in the game vs. Tennessee where he did not perform well.

 

[BigTex]

I'm very interested in the Lynch vs. Peterson debate. I"m considering moving up to #2 to get either and would like to hear more discussion about it. I have only seen Lynch twice this year; the bowl game being one and in the game vs. Tennessee where he did not perform well.

 

[rascal]

I'd say that the odds of Peterson going to Oakland are not good.

I think he goes to Cleveland possibly Houston if he falls that far.

Hopefully Lynch falls to denver at 21.

Outside of Cleveland, Houston, and possibly giants, lions, or Raiders I don't see any other teams needing a RB before them.

 

[wannabee]

I'd say that the odds of Peterson going to Oakland are not good.I think he goes to Cleveland possibly Houston if he falls that far.Hopefully Lynch falls to denver at 21.Outside of Cleveland, Houston, and possibly giants, lions, or Raiders I don't see any other teams needing a RB before them.

Many are rumoring Green Bay to draft a 1st round RB since Green is a UFA

 

[PatsWillWin]

I'd say that the odds of Peterson going to Oakland are not good.I think he goes to Cleveland possibly Houston if he falls that far.Hopefully Lynch falls to denver at 21.Outside of Cleveland, Houston, and possibly giants, lions, or Raiders I don't see any other teams needing a RB before them.

Many are rumoring Green Bay to draft a 1st round RB since Green is a UFA

The latest out of GB is that they want to re-sign Green. I don't think RB is a pressing need for GB, personally.

 

[wannabee]

I'd say that the odds of Peterson going to Oakland are not good.I think he goes to Cleveland possibly Houston if he falls that far.Hopefully Lynch falls to denver at 21.Outside of Cleveland, Houston, and possibly giants, lions, or Raiders I don't see any other teams needing a RB before them.

Many are rumoring Green Bay to draft a 1st round RB since Green is a UFA

The latest out of GB is that they want to re-sign Green. I don't think RB is a pressing need for GB, personally.

I was just pointing out that GB could be in the conversation. Green will be 30 this year. Who knows.

 

[CalBear]

I'd say that the odds of Peterson going to Oakland are not good.

I think he goes to Cleveland possibly Houston if he falls that far.

Hopefully Lynch falls to denver at 21.

Outside of Cleveland, Houston, and possibly giants, lions, or Raiders I don't see any other teams needing a RB before them.

Lynch is not a one-cut runner; I don't think Denver would be the best place for his talents.My favorite Lynch play of all time was when he was a freshman, playing in the Big Game, a 55-yard TD run:

Broken play against UW

TD after getting hit five yards in the backfield against Minnesota

I find it hard to compare Lynch to other backs, because his style is unique. He has a rather strange wide stance when he's cutting that makes him appear slower than he is, but makes him really tough to bring down. More than once I've seen him break out of being at a dead stop with two guys hanging on him. I think in the NFL he'll probably have to learn to go down a little easier than he did in college; he has a tendency to keep fighting once he gets stood up, which is an invitation to both injury and fumbling (though he didn't have a fumbling problem at Cal).

If I had to talk about running style, I'd compare him most closely to Marcus Allen. But really I've never seen anyone who looks like Lynch does when he runs.

I can't really compare him to Peterson, who I've not seen play much. However, I would be shocked if Lynch fails to become a successful NFL back, which is not something I said about JJ Arrington.

 

[Rovers]

I also have the 1.1 in one of my dynasty leagues. I almost started a thread like this one... good thing it got bumped! I missed it on the first go-round.

I am definitely undecided on which RB to take. If Peterson landed in Oakland, I think I'd go Lynch no matter where he landed. My problem with Lynch is that he loves to run east west, and doesn't have R Bush's speed. That E-W stuff doesn't work in the NFL. D Players are just too fast. I will most likely go with whatever one appears to have the best chance for making an immediate impact in the NFL. I figure that's Peterson, unless he goes to Oakland.

I'd be willing to trade the pick. Sure, I'd ask for a lot, but I would consider it for sure. I think they are both a bit risky.

 

[kingmalaki]

I also have pick 1.1 in my dynasty league. In most of your dynasty leagues, how many playerd do you get to keep? I'm assuming it's more than 1 if y'all are considering taking a rookie back with the first pick?

This past season was our first year trying the dynasty thing. We only get to keep 1 player.

 

[CalBear]

I also have pick 1.1 in my dynasty league. In most of your dynasty leagues, how many playerd do you get to keep? I'm assuming it's more than 1 if y'all are considering taking a rookie back with the first pick? This past season was our first year trying the dynasty thing. We only get to keep 1 player.

Generally most would refer to your league as a keeper league, not a dynasty league. In a dynasty league, you get to keep most or all of your players--at least a full starting lineup.

 

[Chaos Commish]

I'd say that the odds of Peterson going to Oakland are not good.

I think he goes to Cleveland possibly Houston if he falls that far.

Hopefully Lynch falls to denver at 21.

Outside of Cleveland, Houston, and possibly giants, lions, or Raiders I don't see any other teams needing a RB before them.

Lynch is not a one-cut runner; I don't think Denver would be the best place for his talents.My favorite Lynch play of all time was when he was a freshman, playing in the Big Game, a 55-yard TD run:

Of course this is a very Last year trying to describe Lynch I said he ran like a crab.

It is hard to describe. He is vulnerable to big hits because of it. And in that I make the comparison to Peterson. They do not look a like or run alike, but they both have this ungodly strength and balance and as you suggest may need to learn to go down sooner sometimes. Both have made many huge runs when seemingly completely stopped. That's the similarity though they don't look alike.

 

[kingmalaki]

I also have pick 1.1 in my dynasty league. In most of your dynasty leagues, how many playerd do you get to keep? I'm assuming it's more than 1 if y'all are considering taking a rookie back with the first pick? This past season was our first year trying the dynasty thing. We only get to keep 1 player.

Generally most would refer to your league as a keeper league, not a dynasty league. In a dynasty league, you get to keep most or all of your players--at least a full starting lineup.

Gotcha. That makes a lot more sense.