[Dynasty] 2014 Draft Prospects (3 Viewers)

[Moonlight]

Some very good WRs. Mason looks slow to me, I think his 40 will be a disappointment. Seastrunk's blocking is ghastly, some plays he can't even get in the way.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Did someone really just say we should leave prospect evaluation to the experts? LOFL

it isn't an awful strategy for the lazy

You'll miss out on prospects like Blain Gabbert if you don't.

 

[JohnnyU]

Did someone really just say we should leave prospect evaluation to the experts? LOFL

it isn't an awful strategy for the lazy

You'll miss out on prospects like Blain Gabbert if you don't.

There were plenty of red flags on Gabbert if you searched for them. Not all "experts" agree on every prospect and that's a good thing. I still believe in gathering as much information from many experts to draw my conclusions on a player, rather than trust my own eyes or the eyes of those on a FF message board. The difference between me and most on these FF boards is that I know I'm not an expert talent evaluator, but I do have good tools in the shed.

 

[MAC_32]

Did someone really just say we should leave prospect evaluation to the experts? LOFL

it isn't an awful strategy for the lazy

You'll miss out on prospects like Blain Gabbert if you don't.

a great example of why I put in the work

 

[JohnnyU]

Did someone really just say we should leave prospect evaluation to the experts? LOFL

it isn't an awful strategy for the lazy

You'll miss out on prospects like Blain Gabbert if you don't.

a great example of why I put in the work

I guess work comes in many forms. Rather than watching a lot of Youtube highlight videos, I read a lot.

 

[Brewtown]

Did someone really just say we should leave prospect evaluation to the experts? LOFL

it isn't an awful strategy for the lazy

You'll miss out on prospects like Blain Gabbert if you don't.

a great example of why I put in the work

I guess work comes in many forms. Rather than watching youtube highlight videos, I read a lot.

Is JohnnyU still talking??? Pretty sure no one is still listening...

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Brewtown, I want you to try not taking offense at this--but you're the worst thing that's happened to prospect talk on this board in a long time. And it's not because of your ideas or excessive punctuation. It's your people skills and inability to just accept that not everyone agrees with you.

 

[Brewtown]

Brewtown, I want you to try not taking offense at this--but you're the worst thing that's happened to prospect talk on this board in a long time. And it's not because of your ideas or excessive punctuation. It's your people skills and inability to just accept that not everyone agrees with you.

Good on ya. Stay righteous my friend...

 

[EBF]

Dude is just trolling. Ignore and move on.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Did someone really just say we should leave prospect evaluation to the experts? LOFL

it isn't an awful strategy for the lazy

You'll miss out on prospects like Blain Gabbert if you don't.

There was plenty of red flags on Gabbert if you searched for them. Not all "experts" agree on every prospect and that's a good thing. I still believe in gathering as much information from many experts to draw my conclusions on a player, rather than trust my own eyes or the eyes of those on a FF message board. The difference between me and most on these FF boards is that I know I'm not an expert talent evaluator, but I do have good tools in the shed.

To each his own. It's fair to say the "experts" usually come to a consensus on most prospects. Some of us here actually have decent track records when it comes to projecting prospect to fantasy football. Heck, if you think about it some of us actually make more money playing FF on average than a "expert." It's a matter of figuring out who opinion is actually worth #### around here and who's is just commentary, just like you'd do with "experts." I'd guarantee you the "experts" are watching highlights too. They do not have a solid opinion on 600+ prospects right now before the combine from breaking down game film. I honestly only have 17 QBs down at this point. If they did breakdown so much film, the mocks you read wouldn't have the same prospects over and over. You're probably wasting your time reading so much, because it's all the same bs recycled. Gabbert is just one example. I could start a thread on the other "NFL" ready prospects mainstream signed off on. Whereas not one went big on someone like Nick Foles. At least there is more accountability here.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Brewtown, I want you to try not taking offense at this--but you're the worst thing that's happened to prospect talk on this board in a long time. And it's not because of your ideas or excessive punctuation. It's your people skills and inability to just accept that not everyone agrees with you.

I think I was done once he said Jabroni's...

 

[Xue]

Everyone was an amateur at some point. Most mass media experts have no football background whatsoever. They're guys just like us doing it as a hobby. They're simply educated and have connections. Doesn't matter how good of a "scout" you are, you have no chance of breaking into the NFL if you don't have a connection.

The quality of scouting usually gets worse the more mainstream the writer is.

Some of amateur draftniks on Twitter are worth listening to over the mainstream guys. You know they take their hobby seriously when they make their way down to all star games like the Senior Bowl. Two draftniks who were there are actually in one of my Devy leagues.

 

[ZWK]

Andre Williams has been an extreme boom-or-bust RB. This year he had a high YPC and a bunch of long runs, but he was slightly below average in success rate, according to various measures/situations (percent of carries going for 5+ yards, percent of carries going for a first down, conversion rate on 3rd or 4th & short). In 2011-12, his success rate numbers were pretty awful, while Rolandan Finch (BC's other main RB) was close to average. And, out of the RB prospects whose videos I've watched over the past 2 years, he is among the worst at getting YAC on plays where he doesn't break a tackle. There are far too many plays where he runs right into a defender at the line of scrimmage and goes down.

The prospect with the most similar profile in terms of rushing stats is James White. Which seems like an informative comparison, despite the differences in weight & style.

I think that his problem is that Williams is too predictable & straight-ahead as a runner. Good RBs set a defender up with subtle shifts/moves as they approach him, which puts the defender slightly out of position. That gives the RB an advantage when contact happens, and helps give them an opportunity to drive or wiggle forward for a few extra yards. Williams doesn't do much of that. He can beat a defender who is trying to recover from being genuinely out of position (e.g., running through arm tackles), but he's not so good at generating that kind of advantage for himself (especially when he's not in the open field).

 

[cloppbeast]

Some very good WRs. Mason looks slow to me, I think his 40 will be a disappointment. Seastrunk's blocking is ghastly, some plays he can't even get in the way.

I didn't think Mason had extraordinary speed either, although I wouldn't call him slow.

To put something quantitative on it, predict his 40 time.

I think he'll run between 4.5-4.6.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Miami QB Stephen Morris was 10 of 18 for a game-high 89 yards but was also intercepted twice in Saturday's Senior Bowl.

Rotoworld's Josh Norris called Morris "undraftable" in his post-game column, writing that the former Hurricanes QB was "solely a vertical passer." NFL.com's Bucky Brooks, another former admirer, was likewise underwhelmed by Morris' performance. "I was disappointed with his lack of accuracy and ball placement. He repeatedly missed open receivers at intermediate range, and tossed a pair of interceptions in the fourth quarter," Brooks wrote.


Source: NFL.com

NFL.com's Bucky Brooks wrote that Eastern Illinois QB Jimmy Garoppolo "has jumped squarely on the radar of every NFL executive with his solid play over the past two weeks."

NFL.com colleague Daniel Jeremiah called Garoppolo the biggest winner of the East-West Shrine Game, and the EUI QB also stood out amongst Senior Bowl signal callers. "Garoppolo showed exceptional footwork making throws inside the pocket, while also displaying remarkable athleticism and body control tossing the ball on the move," Brooks wrote. "In addition, Garoppolo has made quick, decisive reads with the ball, showing a compact delivery and quick release. Although Garoppollo's play won't vault him into consideration as a franchise quarterback, there are several teams that will view him as an intriguing developmental prospect with starting potential based on his strong showing in Mobile."


Source: NFL.com

NFL.com's Chase Goodbread writes that "pocket presence remains an issue for" Virginia Tech QB Logan Thomas.

Thomas struggled mightily in Saturday's Senior Bowl, taking as many sacks, five, as he had pass attempts. "Credit him for being fearless in the pocket and seeking open receivers in the face of a rush, but at some point, he's got to learn to move within the pocket to buy himself an extra second of time to throw. He didn't do that Saturday," Goodbread wrote. The 6-foot-6, 254-pound signal caller will be over-drafted in May because of his body.


Source: NFL.com

Fresno State QB Derek Carr finished 7 of 12 for 45 yards and a touchdown in Saturday's Senior Bowl.

Rotoworld's Josh Norris believed that Carr's draft stock remained steady during the All-Star week. "We know he has an arm to hit every level of the field despite throwing plenty of screens in college," Norris wrote in his Senior Bowl Review. "Carr doesn't always throw from a balanced base, but he has improved willingness to take a hit on release. His footwork can be a mess, though, and that will frustrate the fanbase where he lands, similarly to Jay Cutler or Matthew Stafford. Carr has a great arm and he knows it." Carr measured in at 6'2 and 1/8th of an inch and 215 pounds at the event.


Source: Rotoworld

NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah spoke with multiple NFL teams who were impressed by Fresno State QB Derek Carr's "maturity and football intelligence" after interviewing him.

Carr exited the event just as he entered it, as the top ranked attendee at the position. Jeremiah ranks Eastern Illinois' Jimmy Garoppolo as the No. 2 passer at the event, followed by David Fales, Tajh Boyd, Logan Thomas, and Stephen Morris. Our own Josh Norris ranked them in the same order, except he placed Thomas at No. 4 and Boyd at No. 5.


Source: NFL.com

 

[Moonlight]

Some very good WRs. Mason looks slow to me, I think his 40 will be a disappointment. Seastrunk's blocking is ghastly, some plays he can't even get in the way.

I didn't think Mason had extraordinary speed either, although I wouldn't call him slow.

To put something quantitative on it, predict his 40 time.

I think he'll run between 4.5-4.6.

Gettiing caught from behind by a defensive lineman made me call him slow. So I'll say 4.6 or above. With his weight @205 running in the high 4.5'range or above doesn't make him attractive to me. Just an eyeball test on my part maybe I'm off base.

 

[MAC_32]

Did someone really just say we should leave prospect evaluation to the experts? LOFL

it isn't an awful strategy for the lazy

You'll miss out on prospects like Blain Gabbert if you don't.

a great example of why I put in the work

I guess work comes in many forms. Rather than watching a lot of Youtube highlight videos, I read a lot.

I don't watch youtube highlights, I watch games. I read a lot too. Youtube highlights lie.

 

[Xue]

Some very good WRs. Mason looks slow to me, I think his 40 will be a disappointment. Seastrunk's blocking is ghastly, some plays he can't even get in the way.

I didn't think Mason had extraordinary speed either, although I wouldn't call him slow.

To put something quantitative on it, predict his 40 time.

I think he'll run between 4.5-4.6.

Gettiing caught from behind by a defensive lineman made me call him slow. So I'll say 4.6 or above. With his weight @205 running in the high 4.5'range or above doesn't make him attractive to me. Just an eyeball test on my part maybe I'm off base.

I think it's just his patient and controlled running style that makes him "look" slow. He'll time similarly to Giovani Bernard, a low 4.5x to 4.50 flat. He's going to have a great 10-yard split. I will say this though, he does look faster when returning kicks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2jNC61J8V4

 

[DexterDew]

as someone who doesn't have time to watch tons of college football, I will admit to watching Youtube highlights. Couple that with reading a few boards and a couple other web sites, I have a good enough grasp for my level of involvement. I won't pretend to put in the time that EBF, XUE, ZWK and Faust have in watching, but I am very appreciative to them sharing their opinions... as well as anybody else in this thread (and others) that can actually have a discussion and not resort to sophomoric antics.

 

[JohnnyU]

as someone who doesn't have time to watch tons of college football, I will admit to watching Youtube highlights. Couple that with reading a few boards and a couple other web sites, I have a good enough grasp for my level of involvement. I won't pretend to put in the time that EBF, XUE, ZWK and Faust have in watching, but I am very appreciative to them sharing their opinions... as well as anybody else in this thread (and others) that can actually have a discussion and not resort to sophomoric antics.

You mean posting stuff from Rotoworld

On second thought, that does take up a lot of time I'm sure.

 

[Faust]

as someone who doesn't have time to watch tons of college football, I will admit to watching Youtube highlights. Couple that with reading a few boards and a couple other web sites, I have a good enough grasp for my level of involvement. I won't pretend to put in the time that EBF, XUE, ZWK and Faust have in watching, but I am very appreciative to them sharing their opinions... as well as anybody else in this thread (and others) that can actually have a discussion and not resort to sophomoric antics.

You mean posting stuff from Rotoworld

On second thought, that does take up a lot of time I'm sure.

I have to admit that I am kind of tired of the bashing that goes on towards me on reposting the information that I come across. Yes, a lot does come from Rotoworld, but like it or not, they do a good job collecting a diverse range of material, and I repost their stuff to stimulate discussion on these boards. The Rotoworld commentary sometimes leaves a lot to be desired, and they have their own biases towards players, but they are a good source for current information.

The annual threads that I post during training camp actually have very little Rotoworld content if you ever care to check those out.

I also post articles from NFL.com, ESPN, CBS Sports, Twitter, and a number of other avenues that I find across the internet, and yes, it does take quite a bit of time to collect the information; however, I do find it useful to collect it all here in one place, and then let those who have more expertise and insight into these players debate and discuss them. I never claimed to be a film guru, as I just don't have the additional time to commit to this hobby. I enjoy reading the posts from EBF, Xue, and others who clearly are the next step up in the player and film analysis, and I find the debate and discussion helpful to my purposes.

At the end of the day, a lot of what we see can be subjective and the truth is that not everything that will make a players successful in the NFL shows up on the tape and in this analysis we perform, but if it helps us improve our likelihood of hitting on the right players, then it will have all been worth it, and I just hope that the information that I dig up is helpful to some in this process.

Sorry, rant over.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Someone is sensitive

 

[JohnnyU]

as someone who doesn't have time to watch tons of college football, I will admit to watching Youtube highlights. Couple that with reading a few boards and a couple other web sites, I have a good enough grasp for my level of involvement. I won't pretend to put in the time that EBF, XUE, ZWK and Faust have in watching, but I am very appreciative to them sharing their opinions... as well as anybody else in this thread (and others) that can actually have a discussion and not resort to sophomoric antics.

You mean posting stuff from Rotoworld

On second thought, that does take up a lot of time I'm sure.

I have to admit that I am kind of tired of the bashing that goes on towards me on reposting the information that I come across. Yes, a lot does come from Rotoworld, but like it or not, they do a good job collecting a diverse range of material, and I repost their stuff to stimulate discussion on these boards. The Rotoworld commentary sometimes leaves a lot to be desired, and they have their own biases towards players, but they are a good source for current information.

The annual threads that I post during training camp actually have very little Rotoworld content if you ever care to check those out.

I also post articles from NFL.com, ESPN, CBS Sports, Twitter, and a number of other avenues that I find across the internet, and yes, it does take quite a bit of time to collect the information; however, I do find it useful to collect it all here in one place, and then let those who have more expertise and insight into these players debate and discuss them. I never claimed to be a film guru, as I just don't have the additional time to commit to this hobby. I enjoy reading the posts from EBF, Xue, and others who clearly are the next step up in the player and film analysis, and I find the debate and discussion helpful to my purposes.

At the end of the day, a lot of what we see can be subjective and the truth is that not everything that will make a players successful in the NFL shows up on the tape and in this analysis we perform, but if it helps us improve our likelihood of hitting on the right players, then it will have all been worth it, and I just hope that the information that I dig up is helpful to some in this process.

Sorry, rant over.

I guess you didn't see the wink. I post stuff from Rotoworld too, but I was kidding the previous poster for implying that you spend a lot of time watching youtube highlights. I don't get that impression at all from reading your posts. Sorry if I hit a nerve.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Anyone up for a pre-combine mock draft starting asap?

 

[Faust]

as someone who doesn't have time to watch tons of college football, I will admit to watching Youtube highlights. Couple that with reading a few boards and a couple other web sites, I have a good enough grasp for my level of involvement. I won't pretend to put in the time that EBF, XUE, ZWK and Faust have in watching, but I am very appreciative to them sharing their opinions... as well as anybody else in this thread (and others) that can actually have a discussion and not resort to sophomoric antics.

You mean posting stuff from Rotoworld On second thought, that does take up a lot of time I'm sure.

I have to admit that I am kind of tired of the bashing that goes on towards me on reposting the information that I come across. Yes, a lot does come from Rotoworld, but like it or not, they do a good job collecting a diverse range of material, and I repost their stuff to stimulate discussion on these boards. The Rotoworld commentary sometimes leaves a lot to be desired, and they have their own biases towards players, but they are a good source for current information.

The annual threads that I post during training camp actually have very little Rotoworld content if you ever care to check those out.

I also post articles from NFL.com, ESPN, CBS Sports, Twitter, and a number of other avenues that I find across the internet, and yes, it does take quite a bit of time to collect the information; however, I do find it useful to collect it all here in one place, and then let those who have more expertise and insight into these players debate and discuss them. I never claimed to be a film guru, as I just don't have the additional time to commit to this hobby. I enjoy reading the posts from EBF, Xue, and others who clearly are the next step up in the player and film analysis, and I find the debate and discussion helpful to my purposes.

At the end of the day, a lot of what we see can be subjective and the truth is that not everything that will make a players successful in the NFL shows up on the tape and in this analysis we perform, but if it helps us improve our likelihood of hitting on the right players, then it will have all been worth it, and I just hope that the information that I dig up is helpful to some in this process.

Sorry, rant over.

I guess you didn't see the wink. I post stuff from Rotoworld too, but I was kidding the previous poster for implying that you spend a lot of time watching youtube highlights. I don't get that impression at all from reading your posts. Sorry if I hit a nerve.

I missed the wink emoticon, sorry! It has been a tough couple of months for me, and I have had a few other posters blast me for rotoworld reposts in the past, so I was a touch cranky on the subject!

 

[cloppbeast]

With his weight @205 running in the high 4.5'range or above doesn't make him attractive to me. Just an eyeball test on my part maybe I'm off base.

To be fair, he hasn't run the 40 yet.

 

[Faust]

NFL prospect focus: Hyde and Mason

 

[Faust]

Report: Zach Mettenberger progressing rapidly in knee rehab

 

[Faust]

Vanderbilt WR Chris Boyd gets NFL Scouting Combine invite

 

[Brewtown]

NFL prospect focus: Hyde and Mason

Nice read.

Watching Hyde run its very surprising how quick he is for a big man - pretty shifty too. Looks like a beast of a back!

So many really great options for NFL teams this year....

 

[Penguin]

Is Mel Kiper only providing content via ESPN this year? I don't see the Draft Report order form anywhere on his personal website

 

[Xue]

Vanderbilt WR Chris Boyd gets NFL Scouting Combine invite

Has more upside than Jordan Matthews.

 

[Penguin]

Frank Coyle's Top 50

Pro Prospect / Position / School
1. * Jadeveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina
2. Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M
3. Anthony Barr - LB - UCLA
4. * Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson
5. * Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn
6. * Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Louisville
7. * Blake Bortles - QB - Central Florida
8. * Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A&M
9. Khalil Mack - LB - Buffalo
10. *Jace Amaro - TE - Texas Tech
11. * Marqise Lee - WR - Southern California
12. * Timmy Jernigan - DT - Florida State
13. * Eric Ebron - TE - North Carolina
14. C.J. Mosley - LB - Alabama
15.* Cyrus Kouandjio - OT - Alabama
16. Darqueze Dennard - CB - Michigan State
17. * Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M
18. Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan
19. Derek Carr - QB - Fresno State
20. Zach Martin - OG - Notre Dame
21. * Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Florida St.
22. Ra'Shede Hageman - DT - Minnesota
23. Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State
24. Trent Murphy - DE - Stanford
25. * Louis Nix - DT - Notre Dame
26. Jason Verrett - CB - TCU
27. * Kony Ealy - DE - Missouri
28. * Ryan Shazier - LB - Ohio State
29. * Ego Ferguson - DT - LSU
30. * David Yankey - OG - Stanford
31. * Stephon Tuitt - DE - Notre Dame
32. Jordan Matthews - WR - Vanderbilt
33. * Austin Seferin-Jenkins - TE - Washington
34. * Odell Beckham - WR - LSU
35. Travis Swanson - C - Arkansas
36. * Allen Robinson - WR - Penn State
37. * Bradley Roby - CB - Ohio State
38. * Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix - S - Alabama
39. Shayne Skov - LB - Stanford
40. Lamarcus Joyner - CB - Florida State
41. Dee Ford - LB - Auburn
42. * Calvin Pryor - S - Louisville
43. Kyle Van Noy - LB - BYU
44. * Brandin Cooks - WR - Oregon State
45. Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh
46. Jackson Jeffcoat - DE - Texas
47. * Tiny Richardson - OT - Tennessee
48. * Ed Reynolds - S - Stanford
49. * Davante Adams - WR - Fresno State
50. Deone Buchannon - S - Washington State

 

[Xue]

Let's talk some TEs. First off my top 5:

1. Eric Ebron

2. Troy Niklas

3. Richard Rodgers

4. Jace Amaro

5. Austin Seferian-Jenkins

6. Colt Lyerla (don't really trust him much)

Everyone else after these guys probably won't be drafted high or don't stand out much to me.

Some sleepers:

AC Leonard, Tennessee State

Transferred from Florida. Could put up nice measurables at the combine. Not a strong blocker considering he played against lesser competition. Very athletic, but I'm not sure on his speed, though.

Gator Hoskins, Marshall

Built very similar to Marcel Reece. Not sure what his future position is in the NFL. Does body catch a lot though.

Anthony Denham, Utah

Played slot WR for Utah. Has been invited to the Combine as a TE, so that's why he's here. Could be a Tim Wright type. Pretty jacked at 6'4" 220: http://distilleryimage3.s3.amazonaws.com/dde33cb4cec211e29aee22000a9f38e6_7.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_NJrX0VAes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks6l7GYXcl8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsgdGKtAKZc

Reggie Jordan, Missouri Western State

Has been invited to the Combine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e2hf1OdX7Q

Incredible ball skills. Listed at 6'2" 240+. Reminds me of Jordan Reed. Definitely more athletic than Hoskins.

 

[Brewtown]

Let's talk some TEs. First off my top 5:

1. Eric Ebron

2. Troy Niklas

3. Richard Rodgers

4. Jace Amaro

5. Austin Seferian-Jenkins

6. Colt Lyerla (don't really trust him much)

Everyone else after these guys probably won't be drafted high or don't stand out much to me.

Some sleepers:

AC Leonard, Tennessee State

Transferred from Florida. Could put up nice measurables at the combine. Not a strong blocker considering he played against lesser competition. Very athletic, but I'm not sure on his speed, though.

Gator Hoskins, Marshall

Built very similar to Marcel Reece. Not sure what his future position is in the NFL. Does body catch a lot though.

Anthony Denham, Utah

Played slot WR for Utah. Has been invited to the Combine as a TE, so that's why he's here. Could be a Tim Wright type. Pretty jacked at 6'4" 220: http://distilleryimage3.s3.amazonaws.com/dde33cb4cec211e29aee22000a9f38e6_7.jpg

This is a very strong Group and TE is one of the strengths of this draft. Grab one of the top 3 if you need one! Each of the top 3 are going to be big time fantasy producers!

1) Eric Ebron

2) Austin Seferian-Jenkins

3) Jace Amaro

4) Richard Rogers

5) Troy Niklas

 

[nirad3]

Let's talk some TEs. First off my top 5:

1. Eric Ebron

2. Troy Niklas

3. Richard Rodgers

4. Jace Amaro

5. Austin Seferian-Jenkins

6. Colt Lyerla (don't really trust him much)

Everyone else after these guys probably won't be drafted high or don't stand out much to me.

Some sleepers:

AC Leonard, Tennessee State

Transferred from Florida. Could put up nice measurables at the combine. Not a strong blocker considering he played against lesser competition. Very athletic, but I'm not sure on his speed, though.

Gator Hoskins, Marshall

Built very similar to Marcel Reece. Not sure what his future position is in the NFL. Does body catch a lot though.

Anthony Denham, Utah

Played slot WR for Utah. Has been invited to the Combine as a TE, so that's why he's here. Could be a Tim Wright type. Pretty jacked at 6'4" 220: http://distilleryimage3.s3.amazonaws.com/dde33cb4cec211e29aee22000a9f38e6_7.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_NJrX0VAes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks6l7GYXcl8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsgdGKtAKZc

Reggie Jordan, Missouri Western State

Has been invited to the Combine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e2hf1OdX7Q

Incredible ball skills. Listed at 6'2" 240+. Reminds me of Jordan Reed. Definitely more athletic than Hoskins.

Any thoughts on Lynch from UGA? I didn't see *much* UGA football this year but Lynch looked good at times, at least to me.

This is a pretty solid set of TEs. I'm losing Witten in a dynasty league and will most certainly draft one of these guys (hoping for Ebron, depending on landing spot) with the hopes that they're the real deal from the get-go. I know rookie TEs are usually not to be relied on (see Eifert, Tyler) but hoping for the best.

 

[Xue]

Let's talk some TEs. First off my top 5:

1. Eric Ebron

2. Troy Niklas

3. Richard Rodgers

4. Jace Amaro

5. Austin Seferian-Jenkins

6. Colt Lyerla (don't really trust him much)

Everyone else after these guys probably won't be drafted high or don't stand out much to me.

Some sleepers:

AC Leonard, Tennessee State

Transferred from Florida. Could put up nice measurables at the combine. Not a strong blocker considering he played against lesser competition. Very athletic, but I'm not sure on his speed, though.

Gator Hoskins, Marshall

Built very similar to Marcel Reece. Not sure what his future position is in the NFL. Does body catch a lot though.

Anthony Denham, Utah

Played slot WR for Utah. Has been invited to the Combine as a TE, so that's why he's here. Could be a Tim Wright type. Pretty jacked at 6'4" 220: http://distilleryimage3.s3.amazonaws.com/dde33cb4cec211e29aee22000a9f38e6_7.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_NJrX0VAes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks6l7GYXcl8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsgdGKtAKZc

Reggie Jordan, Missouri Western State

Has been invited to the Combine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e2hf1OdX7Q

Incredible ball skills. Listed at 6'2" 240+. Reminds me of Jordan Reed. Definitely more athletic than Hoskins.

Any thoughts on Lynch from UGA? I didn't see *much* UGA football this year but Lynch looked good at times, at least to me.

This is a pretty solid set of TEs. I'm losing Witten in a dynasty league and will most certainly draft one of these guys (hoping for Ebron, depending on landing spot) with the hopes that they're the real deal from the get-go. I know rookie TEs are usually not to be relied on (see Eifert, Tyler) but hoping for the best.

Lynch reminds me of Zach Miller and Vance McDonald. I don't think there's much upside there.

 

[Boone22]

I know this year is suppose to be deep at WR but how does this year's WR group compare to last year? Where does this crop of WRs fall when comparing them to the guys who went in the first two rounds of the draft last year? Guys like... Austin, Patterson, Hopkins, Hunter, Woods, and Dobson.

 

[Kleck]

Frank Coyle's Top 50

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No RB's in the top 50. Right now I agree with Frank.

 

[Brewtown]

Interesting take on the top 2014 running backs by a former player...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bdLbEYamBl4

 

[Faust]

Drafttek.com's Big Board of 2014 (January 25, 2014)

 

[Brewtown]

Drafttek.com's Big Board of 2014 (January 25, 2014)

Bishop Sankey is their #1 RB.

1 (39) +8 Washington

Bishop Sankey

Sr 5'10" 200 #26

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2 (46) +22 Ohio State

Carlos Hyde

Sr 6'0" 235 #34

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3 (60) +32 Auburn

Tre Mason

Jr 5'10" 207 #21

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4 (64) +54 WVU

Charles Sims

Sr 6'0" 205 #3

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5 (66) -21 LSU

Jeremy Hill

So 6'2" 235 #22

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6 (70) +14 Arizona

Ka'Deem Carey

Jr 5'10" 196 #25

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7 (110) -21 Baylor

Lache Seastrunk

Jr 5'10" 205 #25

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8 (162) -87 Boston College

Andre Williams

Sr 5'11" 220 #44

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9 (171) +229 Towson

Terrance West

Jr 5'11" 223 #28

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10 (174) -37 Arizona State

Marion Grice

Sr 6'0" 205 #1

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11 (176) +94 Florida State

Devonta Freeman

Sr 5'9" 209 #8

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12 (179) +37 Florida

James Wilder Jr.

Jr 6'2" 226 #32

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13 (228) -24 W Kentucky

Antonio Andrews

Sr 6'0" 212 #5

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[Kleck]

I'm not as impressed with Hyde as others (Kiper has him #32 overall). Big back, decent speed once he gets moving, but I think he's slow at the line. Andre Williams runs with the more power and toughness, IMO. And has better top end speed and seems to get up to speed quicker than Hyde too.

don't confuse patience for being slow at the line. the boy has plenty of quicks for a back his size

I'll have to take another look then. In some of the highlights I didn't feel he needed any patients for the holes to open up. The only game I had recorded for OSU was vs. WI, and maybe being his 2nd game back had something to do with it, but I did come away unimpressed. I seem to be in the minority here on Hyde, and his name is rising on many rankings so I will look into it more. Thanks.

 

[Eminence]

This is a great thread.

 

[ZWK]

Hyde is really good at staying on his feet after contact and grinding out a few extra yards. Watch him against Northwestern, for example, and count how often he picks up at least 2-3 yards after first contact.

 

[BuckeyeChaos]

I'm not as impressed with Hyde as others (Kiper has him #32 overall). Big back, decent speed once he gets moving, but I think he's slow at the line. Andre Williams runs with the more power and toughness, IMO. And has better top end speed and seems to get up to speed quicker than Hyde too.

don't confuse patience for being slow at the line. the boy has plenty of quicks for a back his size

I'll have to take another look then. In some of the highlights I didn't feel he needed any patients for the holes to open up. The only game I had recorded for OSU was vs. WI, and maybe being his 2nd game back had something to do with it, but I did come away unimpressed. I seem to be in the minority here on Hyde, and his name is rising on many rankings so I will look into it more. Thanks.

good deal kleck, check out Michigan State and Northwestern games for sure.

 

[cloppbeast]

Frank Coyle's Top 50

21. * Kelvin Benjamin - WR - Florida St.

Not that I'm an expert by any means, but Kelvin Benjamin at 21 seems assinine. There are at least 3 other WRs I'd rather have, in addition to Watkins, Lee, and Evans.

 

[Faust]

Twitter:

Josh Norris ‏@JoshNorris

RT @NU_Gap: Stat you may not expect: Lache Seastrunk broke as many tackles per rushing attempt as Carlos Hyde and Jeremy Hill. A slippery RB

 

[MAC_32]

Twitter:

Josh Norris ‏@JoshNorris

RT @NU_Gap: Stat you may not expect: Lache Seastrunk broke as many tackles per rushing attempt as Carlos Hyde and Jeremy Hill. A slippery RB

Hill doesn't surprise me. He has periods in which he goes down too easily. Hyde surprises me though.

 

[Faust]

Twitter:

Josh Norris ‏@JoshNorris

RT @NU_Gap: Stat you may not expect: Lache Seastrunk broke as many tackles per rushing attempt as Carlos Hyde and Jeremy Hill. A slippery RB

Hill doesn't surprise me. He has periods in which he goes down too easily. Hyde surprises me though.

Rotoworld take:

Baylor RB Lache Seastrunk broke as many tackles per rushing attempt as Carlos Hyde and Jeremy Hill, according to Greg Peshek.

Peshek adds Seastrunk is a "slippery back." Hill and Hyde are both widely viewed as backs who consistently break first contact, and we would give the latter the edge in the regard, but Seastrunk likely avoids tackles in a somewhat different way. The Baylor back only recorded nine catches during his time at Baylor, which will be a major question during the draft process.


Source: Greg Peshek on Twitter