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Gordon against Ohio immediately comes to mind because it just happened and it's fresh in my mind. They were in the back field all night and Gordon routinely made a couple-few yards out of those carries getting what he could plus some then falling forward. In the pros the difference between a zero yard gain or less and two or three yards when there is no blocking is the difference between a starter and a change of pace back.
I think you're guilty of taking an extreme stance in the opposite direction by selling Abdullah short. For one thing, although he may have put up his best numbers, I don't think v. Rutgers represents Abdullah's best performance as he didn't do a whole lot for himself. You're right that he had a lot of open lanes. Nevertheless, let's give credit where due. I personally wouldn't call this move pedestrian, nor would I blame defenders entirely for their bad angles. You'll notice a defense take poor pursuit against faster, more sudden running backs. Watch Gurley v. Clemson to see the same thing.
This really stuck out when I read it. Why would this be the case? I find I prefer to use their college production/how they look in college over the Underwear Olympics. I DO use the combine as a tie-breaker at times but would rather get excited by Amari Cooper (on production) than Darius Heyward-Bey (by how he is at the combine).
I agree. I try to to come up with the majority of my feel for guys prior to the combine. The combine just helps solidify some things. There are always a few guys who I really want to see at the combine, though. Those are the guys that I find it more difficult to asses their athletic ability just in games. M. Evens last year for example. He really moved up for my when seeing him at the combine. Funchess is a guy this year because we don't really know if he's going to be a WR or TE.
I'm being objective, not extreme. Do you think samaje perine was amazing vs Kansas? I think the Kansas defense was beyond horrible.
Uh huh. Personally, I think using college production as a basis is just as flawed as the combine. Start with what the player actually does on the field then tie in what they've actually been able to produce. The combine should more or less confirm what you thought about them when watching them play. If there's a disconnect then re-evaluate.
Agreed, for me, its a combination of college production and take into consideration the level of competition that came along with that production + the combine + NFL Draft.The eye test as I watch them play against top competition says it all to me so it carries a little more weight. For instance, BIG GAMES, whether it's a Bowl game, instate rival or defensive players who are highly praised by NFL scouts.
Even the pre combine interviews can help make a decision. Back when Meachem declared, he blurted out 'I'm cashing in', when they asked him why he declared early. That was a giant red flag for me and I crossed him right off my board. I ended up taking Greg Olsen instead.
In the two drafts before Andrew Luck, here are the qb's taken in the 1st round
Luck was widely viewed as one of the best QB prospects ever to come out. So it's not a surprise that he has done well, in spite of those other guys who were mostly all viewed as huge reaches at the time they were drafted.
You don't see a whole lot of love for Yeldon, but McGinn's contacts have Yeldon right after Gordon and Gurley. He puts Tevin Coleman, Duke Johnson, Ajayi and Matt Jones in the 25-60 pick range. He doesn't give a pick projection for Abdullah, but talks about him after all these guys.
I agree that most top quick NFL running backs probably make that defender miss, maybe even completely whiff. Most solid rushers would earn some extra yards in the same situation, but Abdullah forced a complete whiff.tdmills said:
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Such an important point to remember. I know this is the 2015 thread, but I always think about the devy process as a series of hurdles.
I don't know. After reading the post that had the arrest details, and the scrutiny right now, he may be black balled. Although he really hasn't been proven guilty of anything. I also have to question his decision making ability.
Olympic caliber speed.
And while far from perfect, the NFL has a much better track record of success when it comes to picking WRs in the first round. Lots of busts, sure, but they're mostly correctly identifying the true blue-chip guys, especially in the first half of the first round.
it's probably better to dump off those guys at the first sign of success as when they show anything they get valued super high.
Seems to me that the best time to buy prospects is before their rookie season. Ideally when they're still in college if it's a devy league.
Even if you add in 2nd and 3rd rounders, it's still brutally ugly trying to find true-difference makers. Check out some of these names that were all going to be sure-fire stud RBs according to us dopes:
That might be a bit too pessimistic. Mason and McKinnon have done some good things this year. The jury is still out on Christine Michael and Carlos Hyde. I think there will be a few more "hits" than your list indicates. Or at least a few more partial hits.
i watch more college ball than pro, so often times I already know how I feel about a particular player. I think it's important to have a solid baseline before entering silly season so you don't adjust your board too much as new info comes out, if your board looks much different in May than it does in January I think there is a problem. The majority of the significant adjustments I have made in recent years have come immediately after the draft. I didn't event re rank them last year, just highlighted values to target and cross players off that would cost more than I am interested in paying then traded around accordingly to get the guys I want.
I kind of like it the way it is. Let's face it, the underclassmen who declaire are more often than not just better players than the seniors who are declaring. I feel we and the actual scouts/teams have a much better feel for these underclassmen because they are much more in the limelight. With these seniors it really gives a great chance to evaluate them as they aren't focused on as much.
