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Lee was also 19 lbs lighter. I think he meant that Diggs will run a faster 40.Agreed, although I think he blows up the combine unlike Lee.He's a combination of Marqise Lee and Robert Woods.MAC_32 said:Am I the only one that isby Diggs?
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Lee beat Watkins in every drill but 40 time.
If you think there are 10-15+ guys like him in the 2015 draft then obviously you shouldn't concern yourself with him. In my view he's a much more exceptional talent than that. In terms of sheer ability, I think he has a shout for being somewhere along the lines of Ryan Mathews and Rashard Mendenhall. It's very rare to find a back with a first round combination of size, speed, and explosiveness. There might be 2-3 in a given college class. Usually they'll cost you an arm and a leg like Gurley. The fact that you can potentially get one of those guys for peanuts is what makes Dyer my #1 devy value-per-cost buy right now. He's so cheap that there's almost no downside and if it breaks right he could be a 3-4 year NFL starter.
What don't you like about him? Apart from being a bit thicker and taller, he has every quality I'd hope to see in a WR. Explosive, fluid, elastic, good after the catch, a natural with the ball in the air. He has screamed "NFL" since the first time I saw him at Maryland. It's just a question of how high he'll go. In terms of his movement and style, he reminds me of Dez Bryant. He just doesn't have that kind of physique. Marqise Lee and Paul Richardson aren't terrible comparisons. If you want to say he's Lee with potentially a better combine then he figures to go late 1st-mid 2nd depending on the specifics of his height/weight/40.Am I the only one that is
I don't think your bolded statement really contradict the bolded statement of my post above. Unless you think he's worth using a pick on in a standard-ish 2-4 round devy draft.
He won't go that high because he's old and he has off-field baggage. 3rd round might be the ceiling for him given all the other variables. Maybe he could go in the 2nd with a monstrous senior season and an impressive combine, but it would take a lot. Most likely scenario is day three. That draft slot alone wouldn't do much to change my opinion of him. His performance on the field and in the combine will be the most important thing, though those factors will also influence how high he goes.
While I'm a huge Funchess backer, he does have concentration/low effort drops like Benjamin did. Ebron didn't have great hands either. Then again, I'm not projecting Funchess to be a TE.
it isn't that I don't like him. It's that I haven't seen anything that made me go wow. Seems most have him in that wow category. I want to, and need to, see more of him but I wasn't wowed with his ball skills. I know he can make plays in space, it I want more down field. I'll be watching him like the rest of you, so see how it goes.What don't you like about him? Apart from being a bit thicker and taller, he has every quality I'd hope to see in a WR. Explosive, fluid, elastic, good after the catch, a natural with the ball in the air. He has screamed "NFL" since the first time I saw him at Maryland. It's just a question of how high he'll go. In terms of his movement and style, he reminds me of Dez Bryant. He just doesn't have that kind of physique. Marqise Lee and Paul Richardson aren't terrible comparisons. If you want to say he's Lee with potentially a better combine then he figures to go late 1st-mid 2nd depending on the specifics of his height/weight/40.Am I the only one that is
i don't think I have missed a meaningful michigan game in a couple of decades.If you're going to argue funchess does not have drop issues you are certified.
Ball skills seem fine to me. He makes a lot of impressive catches:it isn't that I don't like him. It's that I haven't seen anything that made me go wow. Seems most have him in that wow category. I want to, and need to, see more of him but I wasn't wowed with his ball skills. I know he can make plays in space, it I want more down field. I'll be watching him like the rest of you, so see how it goes.What don't you like about him? Apart from being a bit thicker and taller, he has every quality I'd hope to see in a WR. Explosive, fluid, elastic, good after the catch, a natural with the ball in the air. He has screamed "NFL" since the first time I saw him at Maryland. It's just a question of how high he'll go. In terms of his movement and style, he reminds me of Dez Bryant. He just doesn't have that kind of physique. Marqise Lee and Paul Richardson aren't terrible comparisons. If you want to say he's Lee with potentially a better combine then he figures to go late 1st-mid 2nd depending on the specifics of his height/weight/40.Am I the only one that is
Definitely not arguing Diggs being worse than a 2nd rounder, even if he doesn't progress this year. Just reading a lot of people, not just here, being so excited about this guy and I haven't gotten the sense of that dominant player when watching him before. Very good college player that should etch a role in the pros, but how much more than that? I want to see him take over a couple of games this year. Haven't before.Ball skills seem fine to me. He makes a lot of impressive catches:it isn't that I don't like him. It's that I haven't seen anything that made me go wow. Seems most have him in that wow category. I want to, and need to, see more of him but I wasn't wowed with his ball skills. I know he can make plays in space, it I want more down field. I'll be watching him like the rest of you, so see how it goes.What don't you like about him? Apart from being a bit thicker and taller, he has every quality I'd hope to see in a WR. Explosive, fluid, elastic, good after the catch, a natural with the ball in the air. He has screamed "NFL" since the first time I saw him at Maryland. It's just a question of how high he'll go. In terms of his movement and style, he reminds me of Dez Bryant. He just doesn't have that kind of physique. Marqise Lee and Paul Richardson aren't terrible comparisons. If you want to say he's Lee with potentially a better combine then he figures to go late 1st-mid 2nd depending on the specifics of his height/weight/40.Am I the only one that is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TMC0JuAOSc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvFZFuknH78
http://youtu.be/rk9vJy8BgXw?t=2m3s
http://youtu.be/rAHMR3MQPdo?t=1m48s
http://youtu.be/OgC-hr50ye8?t=1m22s
Watching these clips reminds me how good Diggs is. If you've got a guy who can run well before and after the catch, and also do all of the natural playmaker things with the ball in the air, that's a pretty complete player. Part of the reason why I compare him to Dez Bryant is because he combines the same return game/YAC skills with an effortless ability to go up and get the ball. They even look sort of similar in the all white uniforms. The problem is that Dez Bryant is 6'2" 220 whereas Diggs is listed at 6'0" 190. He's really skinny and that might impact his effectiveness/durability in the NFL.
If Paul Richardson and Marqise Lee are early-mid 2nd rounders then that seems like the floor for Diggs. If guys like Jeremy Maclin and Odell Beckham can go in the top 20 then I wouldn't rule that out. Diggs is a better receiver than either of those two, but they both weighed 198 at a height between roughly 5'11"-6'0". Diggs looks lighter than either player, so ultimately I'd guess 2nd round for his draft slot. Very talented player though.
Do you realize how bad the QB play has been in Maryland? It's near impossible for any WR to take over in the environment Maryland has had.Ball skills seem fine to me. He makes a lot of impressive catches:it isn't that I don't like him. It's that I haven't seen anything that made me go wow. Seems most have him in that wow category. I want to, and need to, see more of him but I wasn't wowed with his ball skills. I know he can make plays in space, it I want more down field. I'll be watching him like the rest of you, so see how it goes.What don't you like about him? Apart from being a bit thicker and taller, he has every quality I'd hope to see in a WR. Explosive, fluid, elastic, good after the catch, a natural with the ball in the air. He has screamed "NFL" since the first time I saw him at Maryland. It's just a question of how high he'll go. In terms of his movement and style, he reminds me of Dez Bryant. He just doesn't have that kind of physique. Marqise Lee and Paul Richardson aren't terrible comparisons. If you want to say he's Lee with potentially a better combine then he figures to go late 1st-mid 2nd depending on the specifics of his height/weight/40.Am I the only one that is
Yes, but over the years I am becoming less and less forgiving in regards to poor QB play as an excuse, college anyway. There are exceptions to every rule, but I'm finding in many cases of 'poor QB play' the exceptions seem to be H/W/S guys, in which Diggs is not.
Welp, sounds like the rumors are true. Won't confirm ACL, but seems likely out for the year. Guess it happened during offseason conditioning.
Interesting comment there. I think almost the exact opposite when I see him. He can change direction very fluidly and shows nice YAC skills.
If anyone thinks Devin Funchess can't change directions or is slow, watch this Stick route, then the breakaway:
I like ajayi as well.
