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[Dynasty] 2015 Draft Prospects (1 Viewer)

Spookytooth said:
Is there a team a gut like coleman could go to and push you to want him over gordon and or gurley? Or is there a team Cooper goes to that might leanyou to preferring another wr over him in your draft? Interested in some thoughts.
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Just posted this above, but I'd consider it if Dallas lets Murray walk and replaces him with Coleman. Only way I can see anyone drafting Coleman higher than either of those two.

 
Zyphros said:
Another question for everyone though, where do we put Winston/Mariota in 2QB leagues? It's the only format I play, and as of right now I may just want both of them over Cooper. #3 and #4 behind the stud RB's?
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I don't play 2QB, but I'll be ducking Mariota everywhere (no pun intended). Not a fan. I think he's a gimmick who will get exposed in the NFL.

 
Rotoworld:

Ben Koyack - TE - Fighting Irish

Notre Dame senior TE Ben Koyack has accepted his invitation to the 2015 Reese’s Senior Bowl.

The 6-foot-5, 261-pound Koyack has hauled in 29 receptions for 305 yards and two touchdowns on the season. CBS Sport's Dane Brugler notes that Koyack "is a reliable possession target with fluid routes and an aggressive catching radius to attack the ball with his hands," and "could be a better senior NFL prospect" than FSU's Nick O'Leary.

Source: Senior Bowl on Twitter

Dec 22 - 3:44 PM
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Jay Ajayi - RB - Broncos

CBS Sport's Dane Brugler calls Boise State redshirt junior RB Jay Ajayi a "talented all-around RB with a day two projection."

"BoiseState RB Jay Ajayi has announced he'll enter the 2015 NFL Draft. Talented all-around RB with a day two projection," Brugler tweeted. The 6-foot, 216-pound Ajayi, has rushed for 1,689 rushing yards and 25 rushing touchdowns, with 45 receptions for 536 yards and four scores. We believe that Ajayi will hear his name called at some point on Day 2 of the draft.

Source: Dane Brugler on Twitter

Dec 22 - 2:37 PM
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Ty Montgomery - WR - Cardinal

Stanford head coach David Shaw notes that senior WR Ty Montgomery (shoulder) is "slightly ahead of schedule."

"Ty is slightly ahead of schedule right now," Shaw told reporters last week. "I’m not sure that I’m ready to say that he’s going to play for sure, but he’s further along right now than we thought he’d be before the break, so we’ll get him a quick check and hopefully get him into practicing when we come back after Christmas." Montgomery suffered the right shoulder injury against Cal. The 6-foot-2, 220-pound wideout has 61 catches for 604 yards and three touchdowns this season, after catching 61 passes for 958 yards and 10 touchdowns last year. Montgomery is at his best after the catch, as a ball carrier or on returns, but those might have to be manufactured touches early on once reaching the NFL.

Source: Baltimore Sun

Dec 22 - 2:22 PM
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Koyack is a very good athlete, but it hasn't translated into production yet. I'm eager to see him at Senior Bowl practices.

TE could be salvaged somewhat this season depending on who declares. Steven Scheu from Vanderbilt is a player who has only recently come onto my radar, but looks to be a pretty strong prospect in the mold of Owen Daniels. He was the first team all-SEC pick by coaches, which is no small feat.

Maxx Williams could be a factor if he declares. Only a redshirt sophomore, so it's no guarantee that he'll bolt just yet.

 
JohnnyU said:
EBF said:
JohnnyU said:
EBF said:
JohnnyU said:
Amari Cooper or ODBjr.?

Devante Parker or ODBjr?.
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Are you really asking that question? Based on what we know about Beckham today, it's not even close.

I don't think the 2015 WR class will live up to last year's.
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What would your answer have been in September?
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It would've been a lot closer then.

I want to see more of Parker and Cooper before I buy in. I'm not 100% sold on either yet.

I think RB is the strength of this rookie class.
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Most would have tripped over themselves to hit the accept button if someone had offered them Cooper for ODBjr (in devy / dynasty leagues) at the end of Sept when he still wasn't ready because of his hammy. I can't really say you would have thought the same, but my guess is you would have too, regardless to what you're saying now after Beckham Jr has set the woods on fire.
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A perfect example of hindsight is 20/20. While OBJ was still injured and not playing for the Giants, I traded him away (dynasty league where we draft college players) for Travis Kelce who was at the time was being heralded as "Baby Gronk". :wall:

 
Dyer was Louisville’s second-leading rusher with 481 yards. The senior split carries with sophomore Brandon Radcliff. With Dyer out of the lineup, fellow seniorDominique Brown should become a bigger part of the offense for the bowl game.

Michael Dyer’s career at Louisville ends, ruled ineligible
Posted by Brent Sobleski on December 23, 2014, 10:13 PM EST
It seems so long ago since running back Michael Dyerwas named the BCS National Championship MVP. In fact, it’s been nearly four years — and multiple teams later — for the talented runner.

Dyer won’t have an opportunity to create more bowl history, because he’s been ruled ineligible for the Belk Bowl against the Georgia Bulldogs.
It’s a disappointing end after such a promising start to Dyer’s career.

After being named a Freshman All-American at Auburn, Dyer left the program in 2011 when he was indefinitely suspended. The running back transferred to Arkansas State to play under then-head coach Gus Malzahn. Dyer never played for the program after a run-in with campus police. The talented player finally found himself at Arkansas Baptist, a school without a football program. Dyer took a year to get his life in order before finally transferring to Louisville.

Unfortunately, Dyer’s career ended at Louisville just like it did everywhere else.

 
ILUVBEER99 said:
EBF said:
Moron. At least he didn't get in trouble again. Time to hit the gym and prep for the combine.
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will he even be invited to combine?
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I would lean towards yes. Crowell and Lyerla both got invites last year.

At the end of the day, the league is looking for football players, not choir boys. If they rate him highly, they will overlook a lot of the red flags.

That's not to say the off-field stuff is irrelevant. It shows a lack of intelligence, discipline, focus, and commitment. However, this isn't Aaron Hernandez we're talking about. Dyer has never been convicted of a crime and is more of a clown than a menace to society.

I don't mean this in a condescending way, but school isn't for everyone. This guy was always meant to be a football player, not a college student. Dyer's biggest mistake was probably not reading the writing on the wall after the Auburn/Arkansas State stuff and bolting for the draft in 2013 when he would've been younger. The Louisville seasons did nothing to boost his stock or endorse his character. He was just wasting his time.

 
EBF said:
ILUVBEER99 said:
EBF said:
Moron. At least he didn't get in trouble again. Time to hit the gym and prep for the combine.
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will he even be invited to combine?
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I would lean towards yes. Crowell and Lyerla both got invites last year.

At the end of the day, the league is looking for football players, not choir boys. If they rate him highly, they will overlook a lot of the red flags.

That's not to say the off-field stuff is irrelevant. It shows a lack of intelligence, discipline, focus, and commitment. However, this isn't Aaron Hernandez we're talking about. Dyer has never been convicted of a crime and is more of a clown than a menace to society.

I don't mean this in a condescending way, but school isn't for everyone. This guy was always meant to be a football player, not a college student. Dyer's biggest mistake was probably not reading the writing on the wall after the Auburn/Arkansas State stuff and bolting for the draft in 2013 when he would've been younger. The Louisville seasons did nothing to boost his stock or endorse his character. He was just wasting his time.
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I'm not too sure, times in the NFL have changed a lot in just this past year, with the way the NFL handle Ray Rice and Peterson; they are taking a serious stand against domestic violence, now I'm in no way saying that Dyer has committed domestic violence but something between his eyes is completely off. So I wonder if the NFL will see him as a potential hazard if you will. I've finally got a chance to see this kid play and he does flash some RB pedigree and talent. I guess what I'm saying is I don't think he's too smart and have made some decisions which might scare some teams away...............just my opinion.

Tex

 
BigTex said:
I'm not too sure, times in the NFL have changed a lot in just this past year, with the way the NFL handle Ray Rice and Peterson; they are taking a serious stand against domestic violence, now I'm in no way saying that Dyer has committed domestic violence but something between his eyes is completely off. So I wonder if the NFL will see him as a potential hazard if you will. I've finally got a chance to see this kid play and he does flash some RB pedigree and talent. I guess what I'm saying is I don't think he's too smart and have made some decisions which might scare some teams away...............just my opinion.
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Nothing would surprise me. His situation is somewhat similar to guys like Isaiah Crowell and Bryce Brown. Crowell received a combine invite last year, but went undrafted. Brown did not receive a combine invite in 2012, but was drafted (late). I'm not 100% sure, but I think combine invites are determined by how many teams request to have that particular player in attendance. So basically if enough teams want to see Dyer then he will get the invite. Will that happen? I have no clue. If Colt Lyerla can get a combine invite with almost a full season out of football and huge bright neon red drug rumors all around him then pretty much anyone short of a convicted felon can get an invite too. Dyer has never been convicted of a crime and seems like more of an undisciplined fool than a raging maniac. However, Dyer is also over-aged to boot. The combination of character issues and old age is going to hurt him. Whether he's a UDFA or a late pick, no team is going to commit a high pick to get him. That much seems certain.

Ultimately, he should find his way into a camp either way. Whether or not he sticks in the NFL will probably hinge on his ability to stay out of trouble and act like a professional. I can't say I'm confident about that, but plenty of bigger headcases have had long NFL careers. Just look at Pac-Man Jones.

 
EBF said:
BigTex said:
I'm not too sure, times in the NFL have changed a lot in just this past year, with the way the NFL handle Ray Rice and Peterson; they are taking a serious stand against domestic violence, now I'm in no way saying that Dyer has committed domestic violence but something between his eyes is completely off. So I wonder if the NFL will see him as a potential hazard if you will. I've finally got a chance to see this kid play and he does flash some RB pedigree and talent. I guess what I'm saying is I don't think he's too smart and have made some decisions which might scare some teams away...............just my opinion.
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Nothing would surprise me. His situation is somewhat similar to guys like Isaiah Crowell and Bryce Brown. Crowell received a combine invite last year, but went undrafted. Brown did not receive a combine invite in 2012, but was drafted (late). I'm not 100% sure, but I think combine invites are determined by how many teams request to have that particular player in attendance. So basically if enough teams want to see Dyer then he will get the invite. Will that happen? I have no clue. If Colt Lyerla can get a combine invite with almost a full season out of football and huge bright neon red drug rumors all around him then pretty much anyone short of a convicted felon can get an invite too. Dyer has never been convicted of a crime and seems like more of an undisciplined fool than a raging maniac. However, Dyer is also over-aged to boot. The combination of character issues and old age is going to hurt him. Whether he's a UDFA or a late pick, no team is going to commit a high pick to get him. That much seems certain.

Ultimately, he should find his way into a camp either way. Whether or not he sticks in the NFL will probably hinge on his ability to stay out of trouble and act like a professional. I can't say I'm confident about that, but plenty of bigger headcases have had long NFL careers. Just look at Pac-Man Jones.
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Does Dyer really have the raw measurable's to stack up to Crowell and Brown though? he doesn't seem like the type who will blow away the combine. What do you think his 40/vert/broad will be?

 
ILUVBEER99 said:
Does Dyer really have the raw measurable's to stack up to Crowell and Brown though? he doesn't seem like the type who will blow away the combine. What do you think his 40/vert/broad will be?
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If anything, I'd say he's the type of guy who usually tests well. Low body fat with lots of muscle mass and good fast twitch explosiveness. That type of player usually shines in testing. It's the soft body LeVeon Bell/Jeremy Hill types who tend to struggle in a combine setting. That's not Dyer. He's jacked. Speed has never been an issue for him either. He's not track star fast, but he doesn't get caught from behind. That was true in his Auburn days and it was still true this season.

Crowell and Brown didn't have great workouts. 4.53 for Crowell with a 38" vertical and 9'8" broad jump. 4.48 for Bryce with a 34" vertical and 9'9" broad jump. That's okay, but neither guy qualifies as a combine monster. There's no reason to think Dyer can't match or exceed their results. Physical ability is one of his strong points. This isn't a perfect comparison, but there are some similarities between him and guys like Mathews and Mendenhall. Straight-line height-weight-speed-explosiveness runners who were a little stiff with just passable elusiveness. That is his game in a nutshell.

 
He'll also be nearly 25 years old entering the league. IOW, instead of having four or five years of development before he hits his physical peak, he'll have one. And you have to completely discount (i.e. ignore) what he did this year too. Plus there's the off-field stuff.

IMO he's not going to get the benefit of the doubt and I'd be surprised to see him as anything other than a 7th round flier or priority UDFA.

 
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He'll also be nearly 25 years old entering the league. IOW, instead of having four or five years of development before he hits his physical peak, he'll have one. And you have to completely discount (i.e. ignore) what he did this year too. Plus there's the off-field stuff.

IMO he's not going to get the benefit of the doubt and I'd be surprised to see him as anything other than a 7th round flier or priority UDFA.
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Exactly. Crowell and Brown were super young, 21 years old as Rookies.

I think Dyer should put up measurables close to Tre Mason, but going back to the age issue, he'll still be 3 years older than Mason.

 
I have the 6th pick. Assuming he declares, we'll find out in a couple weeks, I am all in on taking the risk of DGB. Classic risk/reward choice. I'm assuming at 6, it'll go something like Gordon, Gurley, Cooper, another RB, and probably one of the 2 qbs. But again draft, combine, etc will all change a lot of this.

 
I have the 3rd pick in a rookie draft. In my mind not a lot of thinking to this. Gurley, Gordon, Cooper, take whoever falls to me.

 
Mark Davis said:
I have the 3rd pick in a rookie draft. In my mind not a lot of thinking to this. Gurley, Gordon, Cooper, take whoever falls to me.
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Don't you think after the NFL draft one of the 2nd tier RB's will shoot up the charts? If one of Coleman/Yeldon/D.Williams/Davis/etc gets drafted early 2nd round into a great spot they could get consideration in the top 3.

 
Georgia's Mark Richt says Todd Gurley will enter 2015 NFL Draft:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000449459/article/georgias-mark-richt-says-todd-gurley-will-enter-2015-nfl-draft

Rotoworld:

Todd Gurley - RB - Bulldogs

Georgia junior RB Todd Gurley will declare for the 2015 NFL Draft, confirmed HC Mark Richt.

Even with a torn ACL, we still rank Gurley as the No. 1 RB in the class. He's one of the most physically gifted backs to enter the NFL in the last decade, combining outstanding vision, footwork, speed and power. He's fast enough to hit home runs, powerful enough to run through arm tackles, and skilled enough to wait on his blockers when a screen is called. Gurley averaged 6.4 yards per run in college. The 6-foot-1, 236-pounder suffered his knee injury in November. He might be ready by Week 1.

Source: Seth Emerson on Twitter

Dec 26 - 4:55 PM
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ILUVBEER99 said:
Mark Davis said:
I have the 3rd pick in a rookie draft. In my mind not a lot of thinking to this. Gurley, Gordon, Cooper, take whoever falls to me.
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Don't you think after the NFL draft one of the 2nd tier RB's will shoot up the charts? If one of Coleman/Yeldon/D.Williams/Davis/etc gets drafted early 2nd round into a great spot they could get consideration in the top 3.
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Sorry for jumping in, but as someone that has picks 2, 3 and 4, I am absolutely set on taking the two that remain of Gurley, Gordon or Cooper with my 2 and 3 picks. Much like ILUVBEER stated, I am more than content to take whomever I get out of that top three list and for me, that is regardless of where they go (even to my hated Ravens). But I am a firm believer in taking talent over situation, more-so for WR's however, and to me there is no doubt those three are the tops when it comes to "prospects" (as we know, nothing is for sure).

However, I can certainly see a situation where ... say if Coleman (or whomever you have ranked the third RB) were to go to Miami or Minnesota or the like, someone grabbing him at three. I would not condemn anyone for doing that. I would not agree with the pick ;-), but I could certainly understand the reasoning, especially if the top three go to situations less desirable.

Plus, as we all know, it depends on each owners situations at RB. If you have no-one there filling the spot, you almost have to move that 3rd or 4th RB on the list up into your top 3, right? Sometimes, especially at RB, need counters talent. Ha. As a guy that took Richardson, I know how that is. Didn't work out too well for me that time though. HAHA

 
Xue said:
Faust said:
Report: Minnesota TE Maxx Williams to enter 2015 NFL Draft

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000449546/article/report-minnesota-te-maxx-williams-to-enter-2015-nfl-draft
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Whoop! :IBTL:
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On one hand, I'm surprised. But on the other, I guess I'm not. This was about as good a season as Minnesota is capable of. So this is pretty much going out on top. Plus, his QB is just terrible. So assuming he got a good rating from the advisory board, he probably doesn't have anything to gain by staying another year and risking injury.

 
ptsteelers said:
ILUVBEER99 said:
Mark Davis said:
I have the 3rd pick in a rookie draft. In my mind not a lot of thinking to this. Gurley, Gordon, Cooper, take whoever falls to me.
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Don't you think after the NFL draft one of the 2nd tier RB's will shoot up the charts? If one of Coleman/Yeldon/D.Williams/Davis/etc gets drafted early 2nd round into a great spot they could get consideration in the top 3.
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Sorry for jumping in, but as someone that has picks 2, 3 and 4, I am absolutely set on taking the two that remain of Gurley, Gordon or Cooper with my 2 and 3 picks. Much like ILUVBEER stated, I am more than content to take whomever I get out of that top three list and for me, that is regardless of where they go (even to my hated Ravens). But I am a firm believer in taking talent over situation, more-so for WR's however, and to me there is no doubt those three are the tops when it comes to "prospects" (as we know, nothing is for sure).

However, I can certainly see a situation where ... say if Coleman (or whomever you have ranked the third RB) were to go to Miami or Minnesota or the like, someone grabbing him at three. I would not condemn anyone for doing that. I would not agree with the pick ;-), but I could certainly understand the reasoning, especially if the top three go to situations less desirable.

Plus, as we all know, it depends on each owners situations at RB. If you have no-one there filling the spot, you almost have to move that 3rd or 4th RB on the list up into your top 3, right? Sometimes, especially at RB, need counters talent. Ha. As a guy that took Richardson, I know how that is. Didn't work out too well for me that time though. HAHA
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You have picks 2, 3, and 4??! Damn it man, can you even field a team that has a chance of winning a game?

 
BeTheMatch said:
Xue said:
Faust said:
Report: Minnesota TE Maxx Williams to enter 2015 NFL Drafthttp://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000449546/article/report-minnesota-te-maxx-williams-to-enter-2015-nfl-draft
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Whoop! :IBTL:
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On one hand, I'm surprised. But on the other, I guess I'm not. This was about as good a season as Minnesota is capable of. So this is pretty much going out on top. Plus, his QB is just terrible. So assuming he got a good rating from the advisory board, he probably doesn't have anything to gain by staying another year and risking injury.
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Rotoworld:

Maxx Williams - TE - Golden Gophers

Minnesota redshirt sophomore TE Maxx Williams will declare for the NFL draft, according to Darren Wolfson of 1500 ESPN.

"Barring an injury in the Citrus Bowl vs. Missouri, an official announcement is expected soon thereafter," Wolfson writes, adding Williams and his family are already in talks with agents. Tight end might be the least talented position in the 2015 class, and Wolfson notes the "expectation is that Williams can go as high as the late first or second round." The latter end of the expectation might be his actual ceiling.

Source: 1500 ESPN

Dec 27 - 10:27 AM
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He's either foolish or believes he'll test very well if they believe the 1/2 turn is viable. Guys like Rudolph, Ertz and Fleener went early 2nd and they had a much longer resume than Williams. If he blows the combine away it's completely doable, but if he doesn't he'll fall further than those guys IMO.

 
ptsteelers said:
ILUVBEER99 said:
Mark Davis said:
ptsteelers said:
ILUVBEER99 said:
Mark Davis said:
I have the 3rd pick in a rookie draft. In my mind not a lot of thinking to this. Gurley, Gordon, Cooper, take whoever falls to me.
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Don't you think after the NFL draft one of the 2nd tier RB's will shoot up the charts? If one of Coleman/Yeldon/D.Williams/Davis/etc gets drafted early 2nd round into a great spot they could get consideration in the top 3.
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Sorry for jumping in, but as someone that has picks 2, 3 and 4, I am absolutely set on taking the two that remain of Gurley, Gordon or Cooper with my 2 and 3 picks. Much like ILUVBEER stated, I am more than content to take whomever I get out of that top three list and for me, that is regardless of where they go (even to my hated Ravens). But I am a firm believer in taking talent over situation, more-so for WR's however, and to me there is no doubt those three are the tops when it comes to "prospects" (as we know, nothing is for sure).

However, I can certainly see a situation where ... say if Coleman (or whomever you have ranked the third RB) were to go to Miami or Minnesota or the like, someone grabbing him at three. I would not condemn anyone for doing that. I would not agree with the pick ;-), but I could certainly understand the reasoning, especially if the top three go to situations less desirable.

Plus, as we all know, it depends on each owners situations at RB. If you have no-one there filling the spot, you almost have to move that 3rd or 4th RB on the list up into your top 3, right? Sometimes, especially at RB, need counters talent. Ha. As a guy that took Richardson, I know how that is. Didn't work out too well for me that time though. HAHA
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, take whoever falls to me.
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Don't you think after the NFL draft one of the 2nd tier RB's will shoot up the charts? If one of Coleman/Yeldon/D.Williams/Davis/etc gets drafted early 2nd round into a great spot they could get consideration in the top 3.
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Sorry for jumping in, but as someone that has picks 2, 3 and 4, I am absolutely set on taking the two that remain of Gurley, Gordon or Cooper with my 2 and 3 picks. Much like ILUVBEER stated, I am more than content to take whomever I get out of that top three list and for me, that is regardless of where they go (even to my hated Ravens). But I am a firm believer in taking talent over situation, more-so for WR's however, and to me there is no doubt those three are the tops when it comes to "prospects" (as we know, nothing is for sure).

However, I can certainly see a situation where ... say if Coleman (or whomever you have ranked the third RB) were to go to Miami or Minnesota or the like, someone grabbing him at three. I would not condemn anyone for doing that. I would not agree with the pick ;-), but I could certainly understand the reasoning, especially if the top three go to situations less desirable.

Plus, as we all know, it depends on each owners situations at RB. If you have no-one there filling the spot, you almost have to move that 3rd or 4th RB on the list up into your top 3, right? Sometimes, especially at RB, need counters talent. Ha. As a guy that took Richardson, I know how that is. Didn't work out too well for me that time though. HAHA
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Yeah I guess it's all in context. I have Carlos Hyde already who I like going forward and Ryan Matthews as well. Let's' say Gurley and Gordon are gone, I'm quite happy taking Cooper at 3. I don't have to have a RB in this draft and I don't want to pass on a top WR. I also have the 10th pick so should get a decent talent there as well.

 
ShamrockPride said:
ptsteelers said:
ILUVBEER99 said:
Mark Davis said:
I have the 3rd pick in a rookie draft. In my mind not a lot of thinking to this. Gurley, Gordon, Cooper, take whoever falls to me.
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Don't you think after the NFL draft one of the 2nd tier RB's will shoot up the charts? If one of Coleman/Yeldon/D.Williams/Davis/etc gets drafted early 2nd round into a great spot they could get consideration in the top 3.
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Sorry for jumping in, but as someone that has picks 2, 3 and 4, I am absolutely set on taking the two that remain of Gurley, Gordon or Cooper with my 2 and 3 picks. Much like ILUVBEER stated, I am more than content to take whomever I get out of that top three list and for me, that is regardless of where they go (even to my hated Ravens). But I am a firm believer in taking talent over situation, more-so for WR's however, and to me there is no doubt those three are the tops when it comes to "prospects" (as we know, nothing is for sure).

However, I can certainly see a situation where ... say if Coleman (or whomever you have ranked the third RB) were to go to Miami or Minnesota or the like, someone grabbing him at three. I would not condemn anyone for doing that. I would not agree with the pick ;-), but I could certainly understand the reasoning, especially if the top three go to situations less desirable.

Plus, as we all know, it depends on each owners situations at RB. If you have no-one there filling the spot, you almost have to move that 3rd or 4th RB on the list up into your top 3, right? Sometimes, especially at RB, need counters talent. Ha. As a guy that took Richardson, I know how that is. Didn't work out too well for me that time though. HAHA
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You have picks 2, 3, and 4??! Damn it man, can you even field a team that has a chance of winning a game?
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Kind of a weird reaction. It just takes planning and trading to stockpile picks in a given year. I have seven 2015 1st round rookie picks in one 12-teamer and lost out on the playoffs due to a tie-breaker, and only four teams make the playoffs instead of the usual six.
 
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ConnSKINS26 said:
ShamrockPride said:
ptsteelers said:
ILUVBEER99 said:
Mark Davis said:
I have the 3rd pick in a rookie draft. In my mind not a lot of thinking to this. Gurley, Gordon, Cooper, take whoever falls to me.
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Don't you think after the NFL draft one of the 2nd tier RB's will shoot up the charts? If one of Coleman/Yeldon/D.Williams/Davis/etc gets drafted early 2nd round into a great spot they could get consideration in the top 3.
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Sorry for jumping in, but as someone that has picks 2, 3 and 4, I am absolutely set on taking the two that remain of Gurley, Gordon or Cooper with my 2 and 3 picks. Much like ILUVBEER stated, I am more than content to take whomever I get out of that top three list and for me, that is regardless of where they go (even to my hated Ravens). But I am a firm believer in taking talent over situation, more-so for WR's however, and to me there is no doubt those three are the tops when it comes to "prospects" (as we know, nothing is for sure).

However, I can certainly see a situation where ... say if Coleman (or whomever you have ranked the third RB) were to go to Miami or Minnesota or the like, someone grabbing him at three. I would not condemn anyone for doing that. I would not agree with the pick ;-), but I could certainly understand the reasoning, especially if the top three go to situations less desirable.

Plus, as we all know, it depends on each owners situations at RB. If you have no-one there filling the spot, you almost have to move that 3rd or 4th RB on the list up into your top 3, right? Sometimes, especially at RB, need counters talent. Ha. As a guy that took Richardson, I know how that is. Didn't work out too well for me that time though. HAHA
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You have picks 2, 3, and 4??! Damn it man, can you even field a team that has a chance of winning a game?
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Kind of a weird reaction. It just takes planning and trading to stockpile picks in a given year. I have seven 2015 1st round rookie picks in one 12-teamer and lost out on the playoffs due to a tie-breaker, and only four teams make the playoffs instead of the usual six.
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Finished second overall (lost by 5 points) in a 12 teamer. I have picks 1.02, 1.04, 1.06, 1.09, and 1.11 thanks in large part to my negotiating skills. My pick is the 1.11. I went Robin Hood for the others.

 
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georg013 said:
ConnSKINS26 said:
ShamrockPride said:
ptsteelers said:
ILUVBEER99 said:
Mark Davis said:
I have the 3rd pick in a rookie draft. In my mind not a lot of thinking to this. Gurley, Gordon, Cooper, take whoever falls to me.
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Don't you think after the NFL draft one of the 2nd tier RB's will shoot up the charts? If one of Coleman/Yeldon/D.Williams/Davis/etc gets drafted early 2nd round into a great spot they could get consideration in the top 3.
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Sorry for jumping in, but as someone that has picks 2, 3 and 4, I am absolutely set on taking the two that remain of Gurley, Gordon or Cooper with my 2 and 3 picks. Much like ILUVBEER stated, I am more than content to take whomever I get out of that top three list and for me, that is regardless of where they go (even to my hated Ravens). But I am a firm believer in taking talent over situation, more-so for WR's however, and to me there is no doubt those three are the tops when it comes to "prospects" (as we know, nothing is for sure).

However, I can certainly see a situation where ... say if Coleman (or whomever you have ranked the third RB) were to go to Miami or Minnesota or the like, someone grabbing him at three. I would not condemn anyone for doing that. I would not agree with the pick ;-), but I could certainly understand the reasoning, especially if the top three go to situations less desirable.

Plus, as we all know, it depends on each owners situations at RB. If you have no-one there filling the spot, you almost have to move that 3rd or 4th RB on the list up into your top 3, right? Sometimes, especially at RB, need counters talent. Ha. As a guy that took Richardson, I know how that is. Didn't work out too well for me that time though. HAHA
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You have picks 2, 3, and 4??! Damn it man, can you even field a team that has a chance of winning a game?
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Kind of a weird reaction. It just takes planning and trading to stockpile picks in a given year. I have seven 2015 1st round rookie picks in one 12-teamer and lost out on the playoffs due to a tie-breaker, and only four teams make the playoffs instead of the usual six.
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Finished second overall (lost by 5 points) in a 12 teamer. I have picks 1.02, 1.04, 1.06, 1.09, and 1.11 thanks in large part to my negotiating skills. My pick is the 1.11. I went Robin Hood for the others.
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Similar situation for me... In a league where I am a perennial playoff contender,I made playoffs this year and won last year. If you are good, you can perpetuate picks yearly if you make moves to acquire and continue to trade into future years. I have 7 picks for 2015 in a 16 teamer, numbers 1,2,6,7,10,14, and 16. My pick is #10, the rest were acquired.
 
ShamrockPride said:
ptsteelers said:
ILUVBEER99 said:
Mark Davis said:
I have the 3rd pick in a rookie draft. In my mind not a lot of thinking to this. Gurley, Gordon, Cooper, take whoever falls to me.
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Don't you think after the NFL draft one of the 2nd tier RB's will shoot up the charts? If one of Coleman/Yeldon/D.Williams/Davis/etc gets drafted early 2nd round into a great spot they could get consideration in the top 3.
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Sorry for jumping in, but as someone that has picks 2, 3 and 4, I am absolutely set on taking the two that remain of Gurley, Gordon or Cooper with my 2 and 3 picks. Much like ILUVBEER stated, I am more than content to take whomever I get out of that top three list and for me, that is regardless of where they go (even to my hated Ravens). But I am a firm believer in taking talent over situation, more-so for WR's however, and to me there is no doubt those three are the tops when it comes to "prospects" (as we know, nothing is for sure).

However, I can certainly see a situation where ... say if Coleman (or whomever you have ranked the third RB) were to go to Miami or Minnesota or the like, someone grabbing him at three. I would not condemn anyone for doing that. I would not agree with the pick ;-), but I could certainly understand the reasoning, especially if the top three go to situations less desirable.

Plus, as we all know, it depends on each owners situations at RB. If you have no-one there filling the spot, you almost have to move that 3rd or 4th RB on the list up into your top 3, right? Sometimes, especially at RB, need counters talent. Ha. As a guy that took Richardson, I know how that is. Didn't work out too well for me that time though. HAHA
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You have picks 2, 3, and 4??! Damn it man, can you even field a team that has a chance of winning a game?
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:lol:

Well it is all in one league (I only field one team and we are able to trade picks two years in advance, so I planned ahead and tried to get 1,2 and 3 ... came close) and non are picks from my team. I sold my first rounder to get one of these as I just knew I was gonna make the playoffs. My pick is the 5th overall so you can see that playoff plan didn't happen.

:lol:

 
Sorry I had rookie dynasty drafts on my mimd. I meant hed have to go to the right spot to be a lacy/bell/hill type rb1 as a rookie but he is very much ready to do just that.

 
Spookytooth said:
Tevin Coleman going pro. The inidana rb is being undersold so far. This kid has an rb1 look to me (must land somewhere decent though).
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Indiana RB Tevin Coleman says he will enter 2015 NFL Draft:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000451374/article/indiana-rb-tevin-coleman-says-he-will-enter-2015-nfl-draft

2015 NFL Draft: RB Tevin Coleman bolting Indiana for NFL

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24921571/nfl-draft-rb-tevin-coleman-bolting-indiana-for-nfl

 
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Rotoworld:

DeVante Parker - WR - Cardinals

Louisville senior WR Devante Parker "has the size, ball skills and competitiveness to quickly develop into a good NFL starter," according to ESPN's Todd McShay.

Parker is the second-ranked wide receiver on Scout Inc.'s board. He's "the top offensive playmaker in [the Belk Bowl against Georgia] with [Todd] Gurley out," wrote McShay. "If the Cardinals have time to throw, he should feed on Georgia's secondary in this one." Parker is a route-running technician who contorts his body into open space through a combination of agility, body control, and innate timing. Boasting a 4.39 forty, a 10-foot, 10-inch broad jump, an 80-inch wingspan, and a ridiculous catch radius, the 6-foot-3, 208-pound Parker is a consensus first-round prospect. He figures to jockey for draft position with Kevin White, Devin Funchess, and Jaelen Strong.

Source: ESPN Insider

Dec 29 - 11:08 PM
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I think rotoworld is likely overselling Parker's 40 time, but ironically they don't mention his vertical, which will probably be the most freakish thing about him.

 
Here's my take on Duke Johnson after watching the bowl game:

He is definitely fast, catches the ball pretty well, and seems to have OK vision.

However, didn't see him break a single tackle in the game. In fact, he got taken down multiple times by one-arm tackles. He also doesn't finish runs at all. Doesn't seem to have any strength despite supposedly putting on some weight this season. He also ran out of bounds a couple times rather than try to get more yards. He also never made anyone miss, even when he was in space with just a single defender.

Biggest thing, though, is that he seems to get nicked up all the time. Any hard tackle or even falling down, and he's banged up. And he also seems to take himself out of the game a TON. Don't like that at all. Had a bad fumble too. Can't see him being able to withstand the punishment in the NFL.

You look at the box score and it seems like you should be excited about Johnson, and a lot of people are. I'm not one of them.

Bottom line: not interested.

How's that for a snap judgment after watching one game?

 
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