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[Dynasty] 2016 Draft Class (1 Viewer)
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Was meant to be satirical, but that is still very old for a prospect. I can't see him going with a high pick in the draft. Was shocked he didn't come out.He will be 23 in September. So 23 when drafted in 2016.Isnt cardale jones like 24 already? Probably didnt want to leave OSU for a paycut
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Xue
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Russell Wilson and Colin Kaepernick were 24 their rookie season. His age is fine if he's any good.Was meant to be satirical, but that is still very old for a prospect. I can't see him going with a high pick in the draft. Was shocked he didn't come out.He will be 23 in September. So 23 when drafted in 2016.Isnt cardale jones like 24 already? Probably didnt want to leave OSU for a paycut
massraider
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cstu
Footballguy
Age is not my concern with him when QB's are playing into their late 30's.Russell Wilson and Colin Kaepernick were 24 their rookie season. His age is fine if he's any good.Was meant to be satirical, but that is still very old for a prospect. I can't see him going with a high pick in the draft. Was shocked he didn't come out.He will be 23 in September. So 23 when drafted in 2016.Isnt cardale jones like 24 already? Probably didnt want to leave OSU for a paycut
And neither of them went high in the draft, which was my point. Also, not many QBs come out at that age and find success. Finding the needle doesn't eliminate all the hayAge is not my concern with him when QB's are playing into their late 30's.Russell Wilson and Colin Kaepernick were 24 their rookie season. His age is fine if he's any good.Was meant to be satirical, but that is still very old for a prospect. I can't see him going with a high pick in the draft. Was shocked he didn't come out.He will be 23 in September. So 23 when drafted in 2016.Isnt cardale jones like 24 already? Probably didnt want to leave OSU for a paycut
Xue
Footballguy
If Cardale had declared, your argument probably would have been "he hasn't had that much playing time". Either you think he's good or not. The age argument against Cardale is weak. Old QBs don't get drafted high because they're not good enough at all to have declared earlier anyway.And neither of them went high in the draft, which was my point. Also, not many QBs come out at that age and find success. Finding the needle doesn't eliminate all the hayAge is not my concern with him when QB's are playing into their late 30's.Russell Wilson and Colin Kaepernick were 24 their rookie season. His age is fine if he's any good.Was meant to be satirical, but that is still very old for a prospect. I can't see him going with a high pick in the draft. Was shocked he didn't come out.He will be 23 in September. So 23 when drafted in 2016.Isnt cardale jones like 24 already? Probably didnt want to leave OSU for a paycut
I'd say Cardale is a better prospect than Derek Carr, who went early 2nd, and Sean Mannion, who went in the 3rd.
cstu
Footballguy
In the past 27 years only 4 QB's who were 24 (none older) were drafted in the top 15:amicsta said:
- Tannehill
- Palmer
- Harrington
- Akili Smith
Other than the two Tedford QB's, it seems like the NFL has done a good job of weeding out older QB's who aren't starting material.
I'm not high on Cardale but if he's drafted in the top 15 I won't let his age be a factor.
BeTheMatch
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Rodeojones
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massraider
Footballguy
2016 Mock Draft! Whoo hoo!
Football Outsiders' 2015 season projections were used for the draft order.
I posted this tweet a few days ago and I stand by it.
Just be aware, rankings and mock drafts at this time of year lead to the dreaded "Once considered a first round pick..."
— Josh Norris (@JoshNorris)
May 4, 2015
Please do not use these “projections” as where prospects were once considered. Mock drafts this early are more for watchlist purposes. "Next year" is not always better than this year. Remember how closely these prospects are evaluated and even nitpicked during the process. That does not happen on live viewing.
1. Washington Redskins - DL Joey Bosa, Ohio State - You will see Bosa listed as an edge player in many places. He can line up outside, but I’ve seen Bosa handled tackles a guards while closed by another defender. He wins with power and quickness.
2. Cleveland Browns - QB Cody Kessler, USC - Of the quarterbacks in first round contention (at this time), Kessler easily was the most consistent in terms of positive performances. His arm is not outstanding, but he certainly has functional mobility and a willingness to work through reads.
3. Oakland Raiders - T Ronnie Stanley, Notre Dame - You all know how much I love Stanley’s game. I would have ranked him as the top T in the 2015 draft. He can take over for Donald Penn on the left side.
4. Tennessee Titans - CB Vernon Hargreaves III, Florida - Hargreaves has faced some of the top receivers in the country. He has not always won, but there is obvious skill in his game. Expect him to lock down many opponents this season.
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - DL/EDGE DeForest Buckner, Oregon - Arik Armstead was worthy of a first round selection, but there were numerous games where Buckner was the better player. After focusing on offense early in the 2015 draft, the Bucs might shift to defense in 2016.
6. Jacksonville Jaguars - DL A’Shawn Robinson, Alabama - The Jags added a much needed edge player in Dante Fowler. They have plenty of young pieces on offense. A long term interior defensive line piece might be their biggest need.
7. New York Jets - QB Christian Hackenberg, Penn State - Remember, it is May of 2015, but I do not see how someone can watch Christian Hackenberg’s 2014 games and see a top 10 worthy prospect. Was the situation good? No. Did he make it worse? Frequently, yes. 2015 will obviously be important for his evaluation.
8. St. Louis Rams - LB Myles Jack, UCLA - A complete linebacker who can help in the run, blitzing and in coverage. The Rams could use a linebacker who consistently plays at a high level.
9. Arizona Cardinals - QB Cardale Jones, Ohio State - I am so happy we will have more than two games to evaluate Cardale. After re-watching both, the Oregon contest was more impressive than his game against Alabama. His evaluation is a bit of a mystery right now: will Cardale continue to escape out of the back of the pocket? Can he progress past being a see-it, throw-it passer?
10. Minnesota Vikings - T Laremy Tunsil, Ole Miss - Tunsil suffered a fracture fibula in December, so that is definitely worth watching. Before the injury he was one of the more dependable left tackles in college football.
11. Carolina Panthers - S Su’a Cravens, USC - Cravens makes plenty of plays in the backfield, at the line of scrimmage and at the second level both in coverage and against the run. I would be interested to see how he handles more split safety or single high reps.
12. Chicago Bears - QB Connor Cook, Michigan State - At times, Cook’s inability to effectively handle pressure borders on being a fatal flaw. Hopefully he harnesses the positive reps when he shows good movement while keeping his eyes up. Cook is certainly willing to throw into contested situations.
13. San Francisco 49ers - WR Laquon Treadwell, Ole Miss - Treadwell is coming off of a major left leg injury suffered in November. He is very good at creating a sliver of space in the final moments of a route to separate.
14. Detroit Lions - DL Robert Nkemdiche, Ole Miss - Nkemdiche was much better as an interior pass rusher than when lined up on the edge. He was extremely quick, powerful and explosive against interior offensive linemen.
15. Houston Texans - QB Jared Goff, Cal - Goff reminds me of Jimmy Garoppolo. He is willing to look at multiple receivers and has a quick motion. However, some will question his velocity since defensive backs are frequently close to making plays on his passes. Will five quarterbacks be selected in the first round? No.
16. Buffalo Bills - DL Chris Jones, Miss State - Jones burst onto the scene as a true freshman and has not really slowed down. Miss State likes to use a rotation up front, which I respect. Jones could be Kyle Williams’ future replacement.
17. Cincinnati Bengals - LB Jaylon Smith, Notre Dame - Emmanuel Lamur is the Bengals’ best athlete at linebacker. At some point they have to move on from Rey Maualuga, right? Right? Smith and Burfict would be a nice combination.
18. Pittsburgh Steelers - T Jack Conklin, Michigan State - Some might end up ranking Conklin as he top tackle in the class. Connor Cook’s success is somewhat linked to Conklin’s performance in 2015.
19. Philadelphia Eagles - G Nick Martin, Notre Dame - The Eagles have one of the oldest offensive lines in the NFL and their depth might be questioned in 2015. Martin, Zack’s brother, will have experience at G and C before leaving Notre Dame.
20. San Diego Chargers - WR De’Runnya Wilson, Miss State - Wilson ran into trouble off the field in the form of a marijuana charge in early March. He flashes tremendous ability to win in contested situations and could breakout in 2015.
21. New Orleans Saints - WR Marquez North, Tennessee - If Tennessee produces consistent performances in 2015, expect North to be a major factor. He has moments of flare, especially when making contested grabs with corners draped on him. One receiver will emerge this year, and it could be North.
22. New York Giants - RB Derrick Henry, Alabama - Lets continue with more running backs in the first round. Zach Whitman has already hinted at Henry’s future SPARQ score. He has long speed along with great power to be first contact. He might give Giants’ fans a good Brandon Jacobs vibe.
23. Baltimore Ravens - CB Kendall Fuller, Virginia Tech - Fuller did not play as well his sophomore year as his freshman year. Still, it's not as if the talent disappeared. Teams will like the NFL bloodlines.
24. Kansas City Chiefs - S Jalen Ramsey, FSU - Ramsey has no clear position at this time, which is fine. He plays in the slot, at linebacker and at safety. Pinpointing where and how he consistently wins will be critical.
25. Atlanta Falcons - WR Rashard Higgins, Colorado State - Higgins is awesome. From what I saw, the CSU receiver was very good at picking up yards after the catch once creating and sustaining separation.
26. Indianapolis Colts - RB Ezekiel Elliott, Ohio State - Elliott’s final stretch of the season was unreal. Ohio State is returning so many talented players, so expectations are high for the running back’s upcoming season.
27. Green Bay Packers - EDGE Leonard Floyd, Georgia - Floyd has plenty of natural ability. He has the frame, length, functional strength and speed teams covet. He needs to put all of those tools in a package consistently.
28. Denver Broncos - LB Darron Lee, Ohio State - Another athletic linebacker. Matching receivers, tight ends and running backs in space is becoming more important. Preventing a mismatch is another way to put it. Lee can offer that athleticism.
29. Miami Dolphins - EDGE Shawn Oakman, Baylor - As much as I like Oakman, I would love for him to put his ability on display more frequently. Do not expect him to bend and turn the corner. Instead, look for ridiculous speed to power
30. Dallas Cowboys - RB Corey Clement, Wisconsin - Three running backs? Why not? Clement now has the clear lane to more carries. He has explosion to take advantage of space created and can break arm tackles. Hopefully Wisconsin’s passing offense is improved.
31. New England Patriots - WR Josh Doctson, TCU - Doctson is recovering from a broken hand suffered in spring practice. He can really elevate and float in 50/50 situations. His game is not too dissimilar from DeVante Parker’s.
32. Seattle Seahawks - EDGE Anthony Zettel, Penn State - Zettel is a great prospect who lines up outside and inside. Expect for more to catch on to his name during Big Ten play.
Football Outsiders' 2015 season projections were used for the draft order.
I posted this tweet a few days ago and I stand by it.
Just be aware, rankings and mock drafts at this time of year lead to the dreaded "Once considered a first round pick..."
— Josh Norris (@JoshNorris)
May 4, 2015
Please do not use these “projections” as where prospects were once considered. Mock drafts this early are more for watchlist purposes. "Next year" is not always better than this year. Remember how closely these prospects are evaluated and even nitpicked during the process. That does not happen on live viewing.
1. Washington Redskins - DL Joey Bosa, Ohio State - You will see Bosa listed as an edge player in many places. He can line up outside, but I’ve seen Bosa handled tackles a guards while closed by another defender. He wins with power and quickness.
2. Cleveland Browns - QB Cody Kessler, USC - Of the quarterbacks in first round contention (at this time), Kessler easily was the most consistent in terms of positive performances. His arm is not outstanding, but he certainly has functional mobility and a willingness to work through reads.
3. Oakland Raiders - T Ronnie Stanley, Notre Dame - You all know how much I love Stanley’s game. I would have ranked him as the top T in the 2015 draft. He can take over for Donald Penn on the left side.
4. Tennessee Titans - CB Vernon Hargreaves III, Florida - Hargreaves has faced some of the top receivers in the country. He has not always won, but there is obvious skill in his game. Expect him to lock down many opponents this season.
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - DL/EDGE DeForest Buckner, Oregon - Arik Armstead was worthy of a first round selection, but there were numerous games where Buckner was the better player. After focusing on offense early in the 2015 draft, the Bucs might shift to defense in 2016.
6. Jacksonville Jaguars - DL A’Shawn Robinson, Alabama - The Jags added a much needed edge player in Dante Fowler. They have plenty of young pieces on offense. A long term interior defensive line piece might be their biggest need.
7. New York Jets - QB Christian Hackenberg, Penn State - Remember, it is May of 2015, but I do not see how someone can watch Christian Hackenberg’s 2014 games and see a top 10 worthy prospect. Was the situation good? No. Did he make it worse? Frequently, yes. 2015 will obviously be important for his evaluation.
8. St. Louis Rams - LB Myles Jack, UCLA - A complete linebacker who can help in the run, blitzing and in coverage. The Rams could use a linebacker who consistently plays at a high level.
9. Arizona Cardinals - QB Cardale Jones, Ohio State - I am so happy we will have more than two games to evaluate Cardale. After re-watching both, the Oregon contest was more impressive than his game against Alabama. His evaluation is a bit of a mystery right now: will Cardale continue to escape out of the back of the pocket? Can he progress past being a see-it, throw-it passer?
10. Minnesota Vikings - T Laremy Tunsil, Ole Miss - Tunsil suffered a fracture fibula in December, so that is definitely worth watching. Before the injury he was one of the more dependable left tackles in college football.
11. Carolina Panthers - S Su’a Cravens, USC - Cravens makes plenty of plays in the backfield, at the line of scrimmage and at the second level both in coverage and against the run. I would be interested to see how he handles more split safety or single high reps.
12. Chicago Bears - QB Connor Cook, Michigan State - At times, Cook’s inability to effectively handle pressure borders on being a fatal flaw. Hopefully he harnesses the positive reps when he shows good movement while keeping his eyes up. Cook is certainly willing to throw into contested situations.
13. San Francisco 49ers - WR Laquon Treadwell, Ole Miss - Treadwell is coming off of a major left leg injury suffered in November. He is very good at creating a sliver of space in the final moments of a route to separate.
14. Detroit Lions - DL Robert Nkemdiche, Ole Miss - Nkemdiche was much better as an interior pass rusher than when lined up on the edge. He was extremely quick, powerful and explosive against interior offensive linemen.
15. Houston Texans - QB Jared Goff, Cal - Goff reminds me of Jimmy Garoppolo. He is willing to look at multiple receivers and has a quick motion. However, some will question his velocity since defensive backs are frequently close to making plays on his passes. Will five quarterbacks be selected in the first round? No.
16. Buffalo Bills - DL Chris Jones, Miss State - Jones burst onto the scene as a true freshman and has not really slowed down. Miss State likes to use a rotation up front, which I respect. Jones could be Kyle Williams’ future replacement.
17. Cincinnati Bengals - LB Jaylon Smith, Notre Dame - Emmanuel Lamur is the Bengals’ best athlete at linebacker. At some point they have to move on from Rey Maualuga, right? Right? Smith and Burfict would be a nice combination.
18. Pittsburgh Steelers - T Jack Conklin, Michigan State - Some might end up ranking Conklin as he top tackle in the class. Connor Cook’s success is somewhat linked to Conklin’s performance in 2015.
19. Philadelphia Eagles - G Nick Martin, Notre Dame - The Eagles have one of the oldest offensive lines in the NFL and their depth might be questioned in 2015. Martin, Zack’s brother, will have experience at G and C before leaving Notre Dame.
20. San Diego Chargers - WR De’Runnya Wilson, Miss State - Wilson ran into trouble off the field in the form of a marijuana charge in early March. He flashes tremendous ability to win in contested situations and could breakout in 2015.
21. New Orleans Saints - WR Marquez North, Tennessee - If Tennessee produces consistent performances in 2015, expect North to be a major factor. He has moments of flare, especially when making contested grabs with corners draped on him. One receiver will emerge this year, and it could be North.
22. New York Giants - RB Derrick Henry, Alabama - Lets continue with more running backs in the first round. Zach Whitman has already hinted at Henry’s future SPARQ score. He has long speed along with great power to be first contact. He might give Giants’ fans a good Brandon Jacobs vibe.
23. Baltimore Ravens - CB Kendall Fuller, Virginia Tech - Fuller did not play as well his sophomore year as his freshman year. Still, it's not as if the talent disappeared. Teams will like the NFL bloodlines.
24. Kansas City Chiefs - S Jalen Ramsey, FSU - Ramsey has no clear position at this time, which is fine. He plays in the slot, at linebacker and at safety. Pinpointing where and how he consistently wins will be critical.
25. Atlanta Falcons - WR Rashard Higgins, Colorado State - Higgins is awesome. From what I saw, the CSU receiver was very good at picking up yards after the catch once creating and sustaining separation.
26. Indianapolis Colts - RB Ezekiel Elliott, Ohio State - Elliott’s final stretch of the season was unreal. Ohio State is returning so many talented players, so expectations are high for the running back’s upcoming season.
27. Green Bay Packers - EDGE Leonard Floyd, Georgia - Floyd has plenty of natural ability. He has the frame, length, functional strength and speed teams covet. He needs to put all of those tools in a package consistently.
28. Denver Broncos - LB Darron Lee, Ohio State - Another athletic linebacker. Matching receivers, tight ends and running backs in space is becoming more important. Preventing a mismatch is another way to put it. Lee can offer that athleticism.
29. Miami Dolphins - EDGE Shawn Oakman, Baylor - As much as I like Oakman, I would love for him to put his ability on display more frequently. Do not expect him to bend and turn the corner. Instead, look for ridiculous speed to power
30. Dallas Cowboys - RB Corey Clement, Wisconsin - Three running backs? Why not? Clement now has the clear lane to more carries. He has explosion to take advantage of space created and can break arm tackles. Hopefully Wisconsin’s passing offense is improved.
31. New England Patriots - WR Josh Doctson, TCU - Doctson is recovering from a broken hand suffered in spring practice. He can really elevate and float in 50/50 situations. His game is not too dissimilar from DeVante Parker’s.
32. Seattle Seahawks - EDGE Anthony Zettel, Penn State - Zettel is a great prospect who lines up outside and inside. Expect for more to catch on to his name during Big Ten play.
wildabeast49
Footballguy
Im here to defer to you devy-savvy people. I'm nearing the end of my draft and own the rights to someone elses devy pick (used mine on Henry), this league is superflex and I could use more rb and qb help for this team. Which direction would you be aiming? My personal top guys left (Im feeling a bit lost regarding the qbs). Im generally averse to taking a guy who is likely 2 years out since we don't go that deep in devy (12 total players each year)
Cardale
Cook
Goff
Boykin
J Johnson
(Hackenburgh the only QB gone)
A Collins
Clement
Connor
Williams
(Henry, Elliot, Chubb gone)
(Treadwell, Boyd, DeRunnya, Davis gone) in case there's a consensus top wr sitting in your mind.
Cardale
Cook
Goff
Boykin
J Johnson
(Hackenburgh the only QB gone)
A Collins
Clement
Connor
Williams
(Henry, Elliot, Chubb gone)
(Treadwell, Boyd, DeRunnya, Davis gone) in case there's a consensus top wr sitting in your mind.
Vincesanity
Footballguy
In my SuperFlex Devys the 4 QBs would go before any of the RBs. In order probably Cardale, Cook, Boykin, Golf.
Paulymaggs
Footballguy
Jovon Robinson.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Exactly! Easily a better QB class next year. Boykin, Johnson and Kiel could make a run as well. If the Titans love Mariota, great. But if they picked him just because they HAD to have a QB this year, they made a mistake. They'll still be picking in a range to get several of the guys above in 2016.
EBF
Footballguy
Slow time of the year for CFB, but here are some Thomas Tyner spring game highlights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCr68NxDnlU
Nothing too amazing really. I think these clips do show some of the good/bad of Tyner though. Upright build. Seems a bit labored when running through traffic. Nice speed once he gets rumbling though. The last one is probably the best play on this short reel.
Gonna be a battle for touches next season at Oregon with Marshall/Tyner/Freeman returning and the new kids Merritt and Griffin possibly getting some looks at either WR or RB.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCr68NxDnlU
Nothing too amazing really. I think these clips do show some of the good/bad of Tyner though. Upright build. Seems a bit labored when running through traffic. Nice speed once he gets rumbling though. The last one is probably the best play on this short reel.
Gonna be a battle for touches next season at Oregon with Marshall/Tyner/Freeman returning and the new kids Merritt and Griffin possibly getting some looks at either WR or RB.
