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[Dynasty] 2019 NFL Draft Class (2 Viewers)

krsone21 said:
I agree with Dan here. I'm not as hyped about the 2020 class as others are and I have been using that as ammo to get more 2019 picks from people at decent prices.
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depending how the draft falls I wont hesistate to trade my lowest projected 2020 1st (my own) for a low 2019 1st

 
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krsone21 said:
I agree with Dan here. I'm not as hyped about the 2020 class as others are and I have been using that as ammo to get more 2019 picks from people at decent prices.
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2020 is top heavy with some very good RBs. The rest is nothing to get excited about.

 
Faust said:
2019 NFL mock draft: Huge trade kicks off new 4-round projections
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I hope he's right. This draft falls in an amazing fashion for the Steelers. I also speculated that the Raiders could be the ones trading up to 1 to grab Murray, allowing AZ to get a top 3 defender at worst. But, at this point with all the hype, I think that AZ fans will be upset if 2019 starts with Rosen, even if they get an extra 1st and an amazing defender. The Cards FO might have talked themselves into a pick, even if they were only trying to drive up the price of #1. I'd be surprised if the Bengals jump up to 5 to grab a QB, but with a new coach you never know. 

 
krsone21 said:
I agree with Dan here. I'm not as hyped about the 2020 class as others are and I have been using that as ammo to get more 2019 picks from people at decent prices.
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Last year people were saying the exact same thing about the 2019 class. You have to have a vision of what you plan to do with the picks. If a person is just grabbing picks with no plan in place then what’s the purpose.

When people were saying 2019 was not a good class I knew I wanted a TE or two and one of the top WRs. In 2020 I will get one or two of running backs. In 2018 I got every single player I was targeting.

2020 has some potential generational backs like Barkley including a QB who from a fantasy perspective is on par with Murray and Mayfield but could be even better. I know have five 2020 1st and I’m staying pact with those picks. Now I’m going for 2nd rounders.

Good luck with that thought though.

Tex

 
BigTex said:
Last year people were saying the exact same thing about the 2019 class. You have to have a vision of what you plan to do with the picks. If a person is just grabbing picks with no plan in place then what’s the purpose.

When people were saying 2019 was not a good class I knew I wanted a TE or two and one of the top WRs. In 2020 I will get one or two of running backs. In 2018 I got every single player I was targeting.

2020 has some potential generational backs like Barkley including a QB who from a fantasy perspective is on par with Murray and Mayfield but could be even better. I know have five 2020 1st and I’m staying pact with those picks. Now I’m going for 2nd rounders.

Good luck with that thought though.

Tex
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I read earlier that even though 2020 has some great RBs and the early part of 2020 is better than 2019, the late 1st and early 2nd of dynasty drafts may be better in 2019 than 2020.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
I gotta tell you, I'd buy them gladly.
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For who?  Would love to see you rank this bunch.  I fail to see where the value lies, especially as the top prospects get slaughtered:

QB Murray - ARI

QB Haskins - DEN

QB Lock - CIN

TE Hockenson - GB

QB Jones - WAS

WR Metcalf - CAR

WR AJ Brown - BAL

WR Harry - OAK

TE Fant - ARI

WR Arcega-Whiteside - SF

WR Samuel - JAX

WR Butler - BUF

RB Jacobs - GB

WR M Brown - WAS

WR Harmon - MIN

WR Mitchell - HOU

WR Isabella - NE

TE Sternberger - DAL

WR Hall - IND

WR Campbell - KC

(And curse this board for defaulting to double spacing since I’m not technologically savvy enough to change that it appears.)  :wall:

 
SayWhat? said:
For who?  Would love to see you rank this bunch.  I fail to see where the value lies, especially as the top prospects get slaughtered:

QB Murray - ARI

QB Haskins - DEN

QB Lock - CIN

TE Hockenson - GB

QB Jones - WAS

WR Metcalf - CAR

WR AJ Brown - BAL

WR Harry - OAK

TE Fant - ARI

WR Arcega-Whiteside - SF

WR Samuel - JAX

WR Butler - BUF

RB Jacobs - GB

WR M Brown - WAS

WR Harmon - MIN

WR Mitchell - HOU

WR Isabella - NE

TE Sternberger - DAL

WR Hall - IND

WR Campbell - KC

(And curse this board for defaulting to double spacing since I’m not technologically savvy enough to change that it appears.)  :wall:
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I look at it similarly to the mistake that Oakland made in trading Khalil Mack to Chicago because "they're a terrible team and the draft pick will be high". Yeah, but when you trade Mack to them... Then they're a better team and... The draft pick ISN'T high.

Similarly, good players make bad situations better... Because they're good.

In this scenario, the only ones I'd be down on are Harmon in MN (because of situation) and Mitchell because he's not good.

 
I try to grab picks during the season. That's when they are the lowest cost, generally. Then once the NFL draft is over, the price for current picks start to go up because of rookie fever. That's the time to trade back and/or accumulate extra picks for the next dynasty draft. I track ADPs leading up to our dyno draft and use them to see if I can trade back and still hit the players I am targeting several picks later. 

I've traded out of the first round the last two drafts and have traded one of my firsts this year already. It's pretty simple and effective, IMO.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
I look at it similarly to the mistake that Oakland made in trading Khalil Mack to Chicago because "they're a terrible team and the draft pick will be high". Yeah, but when you trade Mack to them... Then they're a better team and... The draft pick ISN'T high.

Similarly, good players make bad situations better... Because they're good.

In this scenario, the only ones I'd be down on are Harmon in MN (because of situation) and Mitchell because he's not good.
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Appreciate your response.  Just don’t see the correlation of Mack making his NFL team better vs a rookie producing impactful fantasy numbers no matter the situation they’re drafted into.  I can buy that argument to a certain extent for RBs as they’re not as dependent on a QB or offensive scheme as other positions, but a RB draft this is not.  And if you think the above situations are conducive to fantasy success for the likes of most of those WRs, namely almost every highly ranked WR...

Andy Dufresne said:
WR Metcalf - CAR 

WR AJ Brown - BAL 

WR Harry - OAK

WR Arcega-Whiteside - SF

WR Samuel - JAX

WR Butler - BUF

WR M Brown - WAS

WR Harmon - MIN
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...then we’ll have to agree to disagree.  As the owner of 1.01 in a couple leagues, if these are the NFL draft results you couldn’t offer me a deal that I’d pass up.  Wish we were in some leagues together Andy, as it sounds like we’d be aligned to make a few deals!  :thumbup:

 
SayWhat? said:
If the draft plays out this way, I may sell every pick I have for nickels on the dollar.  This would be a fantasy football nightmare.
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It would be awful for the WRs IMO. Although I do think Metcalf is the perfect WR for Cam. He throws high and he's one of the few big enough to have a chance to get those balls ;) And I guess M Brown to Washington sounds good since D-Jax had a good stint in DC but he also had Cousins throwing him the ball. 

 
ffmail4me said:
It would be awful for the WRs IMO. Although I do think Metcalf is the perfect WR for Cam. He throws high and he's one of the few big enough to have a chance to get those balls ;) And I guess M Brown to Washington sounds good since D-Jax had a good stint in DC but he also had Cousins throwing him the ball. 
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Keenum to Brown doesn't seem too different from Cousins to DJax.

 
UC Davis WR Keelan Davis ran the 40-yard dash in the 4.4s at his pro day.

NFL Network's Mike Garafolo said that Doss (6'2/211) "definitely helped himself today." The NFL clearly has interest -- 18 scouts were present to watch him work -- and Garafolo called Doss a "mid-round prospect." At UC Davis, Doss posted a 118-1,334-9 receiving line and performed well against better competition at the Senior Bowl. Doss has earned an opportunity to crack a 53-man roster.

SOURCE: Mike Garafolo on Twitter

Apr 5, 2019, 7:16 PM
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Kansas State RB Alex Barnes visited the Kansas City Chiefs.

This would be one of the best landing spots imaginable from a dynasty perspective for #BarnesTruthers. Barnes (6'0/226) ascended into SPARQ heaven (99th-percentile) at the NFL Scouting Combine after showing elite strength and high-end burst, but Barnes is nowhere near the 99th-percentile when it comes to speed. In fact, his 4.59-second forty checks in at the 48th-percentile, but it's not as middling when we adjust for size. Overall, Barnes is a plus athlete, but the 99th-percentile score is skewed by a huge bench press score.

SOURCE: Aaron Wilson on Twitter

Apr 5, 2019, 8:26 PM
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Is anyone else considering passing on RBs round 1? 

2020 has a huge wave of RBs coming, it seems like several of the 2019 backs could be drafted over in 2020. When spending a 1st rounder on a RB, you want that guy to hit. Just seems like the WR and even TE class may be a better chance at a hit than RB if youre playing the long game

 
NFL Media's Lance Zierlein believes Utah senior K Matt Gay was a "surprising" omission from the Senior Bowl.

Gay (6'0/232) was a two-time All-American at Utah and won the Lou Groza award in 2017. Zierlein labels Gay as a "big boy with an even bigger leg who has the ability to drive both the long field goal and the long kickoff." Gay hit 5-of-6 field goals beyond 50 yards in 2017 but had a bit of a down year in 2018. He has a good chance at being selected late in the NFL Draft.

SOURCE: NFL.com

Apr 6, 2019, 7:29 AM
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NFL Media's Lance Zierlein compared Michigan TE Zach Gentry to Matt Lengel.

Lengel is a former UDFA and had a short stint in the NFL so this isn't much of a compliment for Gentry (6'8/265). Saying he tested poorly would be understating it as Gentry produced a SPARQ athletic composite score in the 3rd percentile at the NFL Scouting Combine. He racked up 32 receptions for 514 yards and two touchdowns in 2018 for the Wolverines. Bleacher Reports' Matt Miller recently gave Gentry a 6th round draft grade.

SOURCE: NFL.com

Apr 6, 2019, 7:52 AM
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Dr. Dan said:
Is anyone else considering passing on RBs round 1? 

2020 has a huge wave of RBs coming, it seems like several of the 2019 backs could be drafted over in 2020. When spending a 1st rounder on a RB, you want that guy to hit. Just seems like the WR and even TE class may be a better chance at a hit than RB if youre playing the long game
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Interesting viewpoint. Landing spot and opportunities for playing time and snaps will be more important to assess this year because the RB talent pool is much more suspect. 

 
FCS Kickoff Countdown: 14 Days, the Best Player in FCS Football that Wears No. 14 is Davion Davis

Sam Houston State's Davion Davis Enters 'Best Catch of All Time' Discussion

Roberson draws Lions’ interest, Davis impresses scouts at Pro Day

Davion Davis Pro Day: Highlights and interview

NFL Draft 2019: Sam Houston State WR Davion Davis had workout with the Redskins this week

10 Biggest FCS Sleepers In The 2019 NFL Draft

Excerpt:

DAVION DAVIS, SAM HOUSTON ST. WR

Davis has been one of the FCS' elite receivers for multiple years, finishing with 226 career catches for 3,181 yards and 40 touchdowns. He missed the final two games of his senior season with a lower leg injury.

“He has a future at the next level, so in my mind we have to make the decision that is going to be best for him,” SHSU head coach K.C. Keeler told The Huntsville Item. “Trying to get him back, I think there's a chance there could be a re-injury, so we don't want to do that. ... One of the greatest receivers in the history of this conference, and he's a better person than he is a player. I think he'll be able to play on Sundays. He'll be greatly, greatly missed.”

He hasn't been talked about much so far in the draft process and didn't participate in any of the three main all-star games. But Davis can flat-out ball and has the type of skills any NFL offense would love to utilize.
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NFL Media's Lance Zierlein compared Georgia WR Terry Godwin to Corey "Philly" Brown.

Godwin (5'11/184) is described as a "tall, thin slot receiver with soft hands, good field awareness, and fluid routes" by Zierlein. Godwin struggled at the NFL Scouting Combine, producing a 28th percentile athletic SPARQ composite score. He showed well at the East-West Shrine game earlier this offseason with a 4/80/2 performance. Zierlein believes if he can improve upon his release he has a chance to become more than a backup. Godwin looks like a Day 3 selection at this point.

SOURCE: NFL.com

Apr 6, 2019, 9:55 AM
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Dr. Dan said:
Is anyone else considering passing on RBs round 1? 

2020 has a huge wave of RBs coming, it seems like several of the 2019 backs could be drafted over in 2020. When spending a 1st rounder on a RB, you want that guy to hit. Just seems like the WR and even TE class may be a better chance at a hit than RB if youre playing the long game
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I'm planning on foregoing RBs in the 1st.  A few months ago, I had 6 of the top 7 picks and needed running backs badly. Through subsequent trading, I've added some running backs and moved back to very end of 1st and early second. I stocked up on some 2020 1sts as well for the reasons you described. It cost me some WR depth, but I'm okay with that given the depth of the WR class this year and still having the late 1st and early 2nd round picks.

 
Maven25 said:
I'm planning on foregoing RBs in the 1st.  A few months ago, I had 6 of the top 7 picks and needed running backs badly. Through subsequent trading, I've added some running backs and moved back to very end of 1st and early second. I stocked up on some 2020 1sts as well for the reasons you described. It cost me some WR depth, but I'm okay with that given the depth of the WR class this year and still having the late 1st and early 2nd round picks.
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There are two RBs that I think end up worth anything when it's all said and done. I'm not sure either go in the 1st after the draft is over

 
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