Dynasty Content Lacking: Please Fix It (1 Viewer)

[Joe Bryant]

Hey Guys,

I appreciate the feedback. I don't disagree all that we can improve our Dynasty coverage and it's something we'll look at in the offseason. Improving that area is something I've thought as well. Our "problem" is the same problem any business faces in that we have to try and put our resources toward the things that our customers want. The real problem is that we can't do everything as well as everyone would like. So it gets to the crappy decision making stuff of do we put effort into area x or area z. In a perfect world, you do everything but we're just not there.

I do hear what folks are saying here and I appreciate the honest feedback. I can't promise exactly what we'll offer for features next year in this area but I do promise we'll give it a strong look when we evaluate how we're going forward with features.

Thanks.

J

 

[Topes]

The easiest route for FBGs to take would be to say "While we appreciate that many subscribers play in dynasty format, we tailor our site to redraft. During the off-season, we focus on the upcoming season. During the season, we focus on the upcoming weeks. We hope that dynasty owners continue to use our service. We welcome discussion of dynasty matters in our forums. But it cannot be our focus, without taking something away from what we do best: providing near-term projections and analysis for fantasy owners."

I wouldn't be surprised if that's the way they decide to go.

If they try to whip Dynasty Rankings and offerings into shape, it would seem they need to assign one guy the primary job of providing the dynasty content. That guy would be responsible for nagging all the prognosticators into providing their updated rankings and analysis. There's also need to be a platform which takes into account the great many dynasty variables (scoring system, league depth, team depth, contract length?), in order to make customized projections. Non-customizable dynasty projections/rankings can never even pretend to be provided in good faith.

And then, when it's all done, that one guy can take the heat when the rankings have Gates ahead of Graham.

 

[Longshot88]

Hey Guys,I appreciate the feedback. I don't disagree all that we can improve our Dynasty coverage and it's something we'll look at in the offseason. Improving that area is something I've thought as well. Our "problem" is the same problem any business faces in that we have to try and put our resources toward the things that our customers want. The real problem is that we can't do everything as well as everyone would like. So it gets to the crappy decision making stuff of do we put effort into area x or area z. In a perfect world, you do everything but we're just not there.I do hear what folks are saying here and I appreciate the honest feedback. I can't promise exactly what we'll offer for features next year in this area but I do promise we'll give it a strong look when we evaluate how we're going forward with features.Thanks.J

 

[Hoss Style]

Truth is that not many people care about dynasty content.

Gotta love broad, factual statements that aren't actually factual. Just broad."A small percentage" I could maybe agree with (assuming we agreed upon "small"). "Not as many" would be OK. "Not many people care about [it]" is silly, though.

[QUOTE='BassNBrew]Nothing personal against you, but the contests are much more important/interesting to me. DD sims are probably missed more around here than dynasty content.
[/QUOTE]And I would never take offense to anyone if they were more interested in contests than they were actual content on the site. Just as there might be someone who's more interested in the variety of emoticons on the forums instead of the information in the actual forums themselves. But to paraphrase an earlier post... *ahem* - "Truth is that not as many people care about the contest content as they do the actual Fantasy Football content". Emphasis on "as".

 

[Hoss Style]

Hey Guys,

I appreciate the feedback. I don't disagree all that we can improve our Dynasty coverage and it's something we'll look at in the offseason. Improving that area is something I've thought as well. Our "problem" is the same problem any business faces in that we have to try and put our resources toward the things that our customers want. The real problem is that we can't do everything as well as everyone would like. So it gets to the crappy decision making stuff of do we put effort into area x or area z. In a perfect world, you do everything but we're just not there.

I do hear what folks are saying here and I appreciate the honest feedback. I can't promise exactly what we'll offer for features next year in this area but I do promise we'll give it a strong look when we evaluate how we're going forward with features.

Thanks.

J

Thanks for the response. A company that has customers unhappy with some of it's features and doesn't respond is given faar less leeway than a company that communicates with it's consumers well. As long as you guys are willing to look into it, it's fine with me.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Truth is that not many people care about dynasty content.

Gotta love broad, factual statements that aren't actually factual. Just broad."A small percentage" I could maybe agree with (assuming we agreed upon "small"). "Not as many" would be OK. "Not many people care about [it]" is silly, though.

You're just picking nits. It's obvious what BNB meant in context. To think "a small percentage" is accurate and "not many" is inaccurate is silly. They're the same thing - the number of people who are interested in dynasty content, relatively speaking, is small.

The contest is basically the only reason I subscribe anymore, and I know I'm not the only one who feels that way. It gets 10,000+ entries a year. I've gotten several of my friends to subscribe to FBG just so they could enter the contest. To think it's not one of the biggest draws, if not the biggest draw, to this site is also silly. I could be wrong, and you certainly don't have to take my word for it, but it's not hard to tell where their priorities are, since they allocate $35,000+ to the contest every year, and obviously not much to dynasty content.Honestly, I think dynasty guys overestimate how many other dynasty guys there are out there. You play in leagues with other dynasty guys, and you discuss dynasty topics with other dynasty guys online, so it might seem like the fantasy football landscape is awash with dynasty leagues, but the reality is that it's still mostly a small niche market.

 

[Longshot88]

Hey Guys,I appreciate the feedback. I don't disagree all that we can improve our Dynasty coverage and it's something we'll look at in the offseason. Improving that area is something I've thought as well. Our "problem" is the same problem any business faces in that we have to try and put our resources toward the things that our customers want. The real problem is that we can't do everything as well as everyone would like. So it gets to the crappy decision making stuff of do we put effort into area x or area z. In a perfect world, you do everything but we're just not there.I do hear what folks are saying here and I appreciate the honest feedback. I can't promise exactly what we'll offer for features next year in this area but I do promise we'll give it a strong look when we evaluate how we're going forward with features.Thanks.J

IMO you have lost sight of what made you successful in the first place . It was not long ago that dynasty rankings were updated just as often as redraft ... it should be a expectation if the staff to keep there rankings current.

 

[J Giles Band]

Hey Guys,

I appreciate the feedback. I don't disagree all that we can improve our Dynasty coverage and it's something we'll look at in the offseason. Improving that area is something I've thought as well. Our "problem" is the same problem any business faces in that we have to try and put our resources toward the things that our customers want. The real problem is that we can't do everything as well as everyone would like. So it gets to the crappy decision making stuff of do we put effort into area x or area z. In a perfect world, you do everything but we're just not there.

I do hear what folks are saying here and I appreciate the honest feedback. I can't promise exactly what we'll offer for features next year in this area but I do promise we'll give it a strong look when we evaluate how we're going forward with features.

Thanks.

J

Thanks for the response. A company that has customers unhappy with some of it's features and doesn't respond is given faar less leeway than a company that communicates with it's consumers well. As long as you guys are willing to look into it, it's fine with me.

And thanks for responding Joe. Although not a dynasty leaguer myself (keeper league instead), as Hoss Style put it so well, your willingness to look into it and consider the requests of your customers is all I need to hear.

 

[J Giles Band]

would anyone on the staff like to add to this thread?

This is just with respect to my situation and has nothing to do with other staffers:In the past I tried to update once a month and sometimes I was able to, but not always due to time restraints. I have never liked to update until at least 4 games have been played because seeing only one game can cause a severe overreaction with regards to rankings, especially rookies and 2nd year players. Now once 4 games have been played (a month) then doing a set of dynasty rankings is literally like starting from scratch and it is very time consuming, perhaps a lot more than anyone realizes (at least for me). I also do not want to just hurry and post sloppy rankings fast just to get them posted because that would be a disservice to the subscribers. Also note that I have to do IDP dynasty rankings too (and before offense) so that adds to the time. As for my situation, my top priority once the season starts are my 2 weekly IDP articles. I am lucky right now to get those finished. I am a full time college student with a pretty heavy load of classes, plus I have 2 part time jobs and household chores. I am severely time challenged right now. Obviously, the above are all at a much higher priority level than in-season dynasty rankings. For me, it is simply a matter of not having the time to do them. I am seriously in a severe time crunch. For those of you who went to college, you know how time intensive that is. Now imagine doing it when you are 50 years old. The lower energy level of a 50 year old compared to a 20 year old by itself adds several hours per week of time for my studies. I'm making it just fine, but the extra time makes other aspects of my live much more challenging. This particular year, I have had other personal issues in my life that have taken even more time. In the past, I have done a couple of sets of rankings in-season, but it has not been possible this year. I also have not been as active on the boards this year.I realize the above sounds like an excuse, but the reality is that I could not possibly do any rankings right now. It is simply that I lack the time. The above being said, I may be able to do something in the future. I highly doubt I can do anything this year before Thanksgiving weekend. I have been asked in the past to do rankings after the first game or 2 and I really don't like to because it is easy to overreact to a great/terrible game or 2, especially for rookies and other younger players. The problem is if I overreact against my better judgement, the rankings are not true...and if I don't overreact, people wonder if it is because I don't like a particular player. In that case, neither may be true...I just want to see more. That is the main reason why I haven't updated in the first week or 2 and why I want to see a good months worth of work. The above being said, I am going to try (not promising, but considering) updating my rankings after the first game or 2 next year and see how it goes. I usually do have time to do this early in the college term and perhaps it will mean I don't have to start from scratch to do the rankings after the first 4-5 games have been played. I have always liked my dynasty leagues more than redraft so I can understand the frustration. I really don't want to update my rankings after the first game or two but I think I have to reconsider that and figure out a way to deal with overreacting to 1 great or terrible game. Hope that helped.

AB, I really appreciate you and Bloom caring enough to go above and beyond by posting your personal situations and why you are not currently able to do more in the dynasty area. I don't think anyone here asks that someone be tasked with something beyond their capabilities... doing it halfass just to do it would only serve to lessen the value of the content.That said, I also find that unless you two are the only guys tasked with providing dynasty content, your explanations/apologies are unnecessary. The onus here falls back on management and their emphasis (or lack of) on the content subscribers request (dynasty or otherwise). That and their ability to make sure they have the resources (staff) and managerial oversight to assure that the desired content is available at the appropriate times.It was nice seeing Joe's response on this.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Hey Guys,

I appreciate the feedback. I don't disagree all that we can improve our Dynasty coverage and it's something we'll look at in the offseason. Improving that area is something I've thought as well. Our "problem" is the same problem any business faces in that we have to try and put our resources toward the things that our customers want. The real problem is that we can't do everything as well as everyone would like. So it gets to the crappy decision making stuff of do we put effort into area x or area z. In a perfect world, you do everything but we're just not there.

I do hear what folks are saying here and I appreciate the honest feedback. I can't promise exactly what we'll offer for features next year in this area but I do promise we'll give it a strong look when we evaluate how we're going forward with features.

Thanks.

J

Thanks for the response. A company that has customers unhappy with some of it's features and doesn't respond is given faar less leeway than a company that communicates with it's consumers well. As long as you guys are willing to look into it, it's fine with me.

And thanks for responding Joe. Although not a dynasty leaguer myself (keeper league instead), as Hoss Style put it so well, your willingness to look into it and consider the requests of your customers is all I need to hear.

Thanks J Giles and Hoss,We'll do our best there. It's a tough balancing act sometimes to try to put the resources to the best use for the majority of our customers. I encourage threads like this as it helps us. Whenever I talk to folks, I'm always impressed by the wide variety of things that are important. For example, some people subscribe solely for the contests. Some people wouldn't care one bit if we dropped the contest. I hear that and I'm looking at that $35,000 contest prize and trying to make sure that's the best use of the resources. I strongly think it is. But I also understand not everyone agrees. And it's like that for lots of other features - some are crucial to a person while the same feature may not be important at all to another guy. Most of what we do is just like that - trying to weigh out the value and the cost. But that's pretty much any business.

But it all starts in trying to determine what your customers want so these threads like this are helpful. Thanks.

J

 

[Longshot88]

I still cant belive that after this thread ,Not one person has updated their rankings. We are paying enough that I think you can afford to hire more staff, Its insulting to continue to ignore this. Joe, politely saying your not going to do anything about this right now, to me is unacceptable.

I am no expert, but from my point of view the field of fantasy football information is changing fast. I listen to Sirrus Fantasy Football radio . You have Fantasy Pros 911, Roto Experts, roto wire,the Fantasy consultant and many other all piching their web sites, I have heard fooballguys mentioned just 2 times in the last 4 months. How do you expect to compete with such little exposure?

Putting more "resources" in dynasty and posibly IDP would seem to be the logical way to set yourself apart fro the other guys.

 

[J Giles Band]

Longshot (oh the irony), I am also in favor of additional dynasty coverage. Even if it is just a dynasty 'expert' (a la Chris Wessling) assigned soley to updating dynasty rankings a couple times a year. That said, having read your post, there is one aspect of this request I don't believe you have given any consideration to whatsoever.

For one minute put yourself in Joe's seat, you are the owner of FBG's. And let's say you are reading this thread and that there are a dozen or so guys calling for dynasty rankings... and by your research the number of guys who want more dynasty coverage is 10% of your customer base. So 90% of your customer base could care less about dynasty coverage.

As a prudent business owner, where would you spend your resources in this scenario? Be honest now... be Joe, not you.

To be clear, I have no idea what the actual percentages are and they may not be skewed that much. But then again, they may. I don't blame you one bit for voicing your desire for more dynasty coverage. I would like to see it too. But how about being a bit more balanced in your approach and consider the fact it's probably something they've considered but have to make tough decisions how to allocate their resources. I for one have a bit more faith in their judgement and willingness to listen to their customers.

 

[ClownDogs]

Hey Guys,I appreciate the feedback. I don't disagree all that we can improve our Dynasty coverage and it's something we'll look at in the offseason. Improving that area is something I've thought as well. Our "problem" is the same problem any business faces in that we have to try and put our resources toward the things that our customers want. The real problem is that we can't do everything as well as everyone would like. So it gets to the crappy decision making stuff of do we put effort into area x or area z. In a perfect world, you do everything but we're just not there.I do hear what folks are saying here and I appreciate the honest feedback. I can't promise exactly what we'll offer for features next year in this area but I do promise we'll give it a strong look when we evaluate how we're going forward with features.Thanks.J

The 35k contest is worth the price of a FBG subscription alone, but other areas should not be overlooked cause of that.Just a thought for the dynasty ranking updates: Why not put a time limit on when updates are due? Say week 4, Bloom must has his updates in. Week 8, Borbs must have his. Week 12, Pasquino must have his. If Borbs can not meet his deadline, it would be his responsibility to contact another staffer and make sure SOMEONE is updated for that week. If people are given deadlines and there are consequences if those deadlines aren't met, i bet more updates will be done. I am not sure what those penalties could be, but that is for the owner to decide.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

I'm bringing back Ones 2 Watch next year, where I look at the top 5 QB, top 10 RB, and top 10 WR in college football that are draft eligible (EACH WEEK). I talk about their weekly performances and discuss their skill set.

Also, the College Football (Deep Sleepers) Dark Phoenix is set to return. It's another weekly feature where I pick 3 breakout players from college football that are not in Ones 2 Watch. Remember writing about Arian Foster during his junior year at Tennessee.



Plus, our dynasty content comes in the year round talk on The Audible.

I'm one of very few NFL analysts (and the ONLY fantasy guy) to travel to Shrine Game, Senior Bowl, NFLPA Game (Battle for the Rock this year), the Combine, pro days, and the NFL Draft.

I talk all year on the Audible about what I'm seeing, what I'm hearing, tidbits from player interviews, etc. Audible listeners know we talked about Denarius Moore when I was in San Antonio last year...we talked about Delone Carter when I was in Orlando...told you about the Demarco Murray performance from Mobile.

Nobody else does this. If you're not listening to The Audible in the 'non-playing' season..you're missing out.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

thinking about it...Chad Reuter and I are the only NFL analysts at all the All Star games (and the other stuff I listed).

McShay, Kiper, and even Mayock don't go to all of them. Kiper goes to none of them, McShay to Shrine/Senior, Mayock to Shrine/Senior.

 

[The Comedian]

I still cant belive that after this thread ,Not one person has updated their rankings. We are paying enough that I think you can afford to hire more staff, Its insulting to continue to ignore this. Joe, politely saying your not going to do anything about this right now, to me is unacceptable. I am no expert, but from my point of view the field of fantasy football information is changing fast. I listen to Sirrus Fantasy Football radio . You have Fantasy Pros 911, Roto Experts, roto wire,the Fantasy consultant and many other all piching their web sites, I have heard fooballguys mentioned just 2 times in the last 4 months. How do you expect to compete with such little exposure? Putting more "resources" in dynasty and posibly IDP would seem to be the logical way to set yourself apart fro the other guys.

Insulting? Vote with your wallet. If enough people do, they'll change it. Otherwise it's just a few unsatisfied customers among legions of others who don't really care.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I still cant belive that after this thread ,Not one person has updated their rankings. We are paying enough that I think you can afford to hire more staff, Its insulting to continue to ignore this. Joe, politely saying your not going to do anything about this right now, to me is unacceptable. I am no expert, but from my point of view the field of fantasy football information is changing fast. I listen to Sirrus Fantasy Football radio . You have Fantasy Pros 911, Roto Experts, roto wire,the Fantasy consultant and many other all piching their web sites, I have heard fooballguys mentioned just 2 times in the last 4 months. How do you expect to compete with such little exposure? Putting more "resources" in dynasty and posibly IDP would seem to be the logical way to set yourself apart fro the other guys.

I wish it could happen faster but we can't throw together a ranking and have it have much value. They unfortunately take some time to do. I've asked our guys to see what they can do about updating these.J

 

[massraider]

I still cant belive that after this thread ,Not one person has updated their rankings. We are paying enough that I think you can afford to hire more staff, Its insulting to continue to ignore this. Joe, politely saying your not going to do anything about this right now, to me is unacceptable. I am no expert, but from my point of view the field of fantasy football information is changing fast. I listen to Sirrus Fantasy Football radio . You have Fantasy Pros 911, Roto Experts, roto wire,the Fantasy consultant and many other all piching their web sites, I have heard fooballguys mentioned just 2 times in the last 4 months. How do you expect to compete with such little exposure? Putting more "resources" in dynasty and posibly IDP would seem to be the logical way to set yourself apart fro the other guys.

You should find a site that is willing to update their dynasty rankings in two days after a few people complain on a message board. I am sure they will be quality rankings.

 

[pittstownkiller]

While I might concede that dynasty players are in the minority on this site, I would say they make up the vast majority of off-season shark pool visitors. I personally came here for the off-season dynasty talk and I must agree that the coverage is lacking. I apologize if I am Hipple-ing here but along with the staff's apologies and promises, I would like to hear some serious requests of what we would like to have as far as coverage. I was disappointed that the thread I started asking about the "results" of the member's picks, didn't even get an acknowledgment from the Mods/staff. I realize that Bloom has a young child, and expects to have more time next year, but the time children can demand usually grows with their age; young parents also tend to have more children. I would hate for me to be wondering if the wonderful news of Bloom having another child could somehow make a lesser product for me. One of the suggestions was to hire another writer/assistant with prize money, some child care for the staff might be easier and more cost effective. I post this with all due respect here, and I love this site (it has got me through some dark nights and made me recollect on some happy memories), but the football info is what got me here and I sometime strain to find the info I need from the professionals on this site.

So to add my request: I would like to see a dynasty ranking list with a sentence or two on each player explaining the ranking, so that I can see what the methodology used in making that pick was and also to see how "dated" that methodology is. Obviously updated rankings are great because everything is current but the little blurbs after the rankings would allow me to determine if I subscribe with the theory behind the pick; it would also be useful to the prognosticator to glance quickly and see any glaringly wrong statements. I would also like, and to a small extent this happening, to see exactly where they feel the in season "adds" fit in; not just amongst the "adds" but in the generally accepted roster-ed players.

 

[adrenaline]

I think FBGs should have a poll to find out how many dynasty vs redraft players there really are, I think this thread is way off.

 

[pittstownkiller]

I still cant belive that after this thread ,Not one person has updated their rankings. We are paying enough that I think you can afford to hire more staff, Its insulting to continue to ignore this. Joe, politely saying your not going to do anything about this right now, to me is unacceptable. I am no expert, but from my point of view the field of fantasy football information is changing fast. I listen to Sirrus Fantasy Football radio . You have Fantasy Pros 911, Roto Experts, roto wire,the Fantasy consultant and many other all piching their web sites, I have heard fooballguys mentioned just 2 times in the last 4 months. How do you expect to compete with such little exposure? Putting more "resources" in dynasty and possibly IDP would seem to be the logical way to set yourself apart fro the other guys.

You should find a site that is willing to update their dynasty rankings in two days after a few people complain on a message board. I am sure they will be quality rankings.

I agree with a lot of your sentiment here but this is not the first thread concerning this subject this season, not to mention that there has been several posts alluding to a "dynasty forum". I am not sure if a dynasty forum would dilute the shark pool but there shouldn't be any complaints about our exodus, from the redraft players, as we are such a limited few here anyway .

 

[The Comedian]

I think FBGs should have a poll to find out how many dynasty vs redraft players there really are, I think this thread is way off.

The forum community is a small fraction of the FBG subscriber base. The majority of their business comes in through the e-mail updates/content that they send out. We're relatively small potatoes.

 

[adrenaline]

I think FBGs should have a poll to find out how many dynasty vs redraft players there really are, I think this thread is way off.

The forum community is a small fraction of the FBG subscriber base. The majority of their business comes in through the e-mail updates/content that they send out. We're relatively small potatoes.

That's easy for you to say, I'd be interested in seeing something based on facts.

 

[Hoss Style]

Truth is that not many people care about dynasty content.

Gotta love broad, factual statements that aren't actually factual. Just broad."A small percentage" I could maybe agree with (assuming we agreed upon "small"). "Not as many" would be OK. "Not many people care about [it]" is silly, though.

You're just picking nits. It's obvious what BNB meant in context. To think "a small percentage" is accurate and "not many" is inaccurate is silly. They're the same thing - the number of people who are interested in dynasty content, relatively speaking, is small.

The contest is basically the only reason I subscribe anymore, and I know I'm not the only one who feels that way. It gets 10,000+ entries a year. I've gotten several of my friends to subscribe to FBG just so they could enter the contest. To think it's not one of the biggest draws, if not the biggest draw, to this site is also silly. I could be wrong, and you certainly don't have to take my word for it, but it's not hard to tell where their priorities are, since they allocate $35,000+ to the contest every year, and obviously not much to dynasty content.Honestly, I think dynasty guys overestimate how many other dynasty guys there are out there. You play in leagues with other dynasty guys, and you discuss dynasty topics with other dynasty guys online, so it might seem like the fantasy football landscape is awash with dynasty leagues, but the reality is that it's still mostly a small niche market.

Well, the first part was a typo on my part. I specifically meant to type "a smaller percentage" instead of "a small percentage". My mistake there, though. I'll take my lumps.Other than that, though, saying somethig as a fact, like "there are not that many" with no facts to back it up or without being more specific as to what "that many" even means is not something I'm going to agree with - no matter how you try to spin it with "well, you know what he meant". I looked for percentage stats on ESPN or CBS showing the how much were keeper/dynasty but couldn't find it. Until then, I, along with many others will disagree with the statements stating there are "not many" of us. Now, maybe we just disagree on what "not many" means. I see that as only 3-5% or so. I think we might be above that. Just a guess, though.

Either way, there's no stats to back it up that I've seen yet. I would strongly disagree that the contest is the biggest draw here, though, among subscribers. I'm talking subscribers - maybe you, along with some of the others, are not. That could be the problem.

 

[Longshot88]

While I might concede that dynasty players are in the minority on this site, I would say they make up the vast majority of off-season shark pool visitors. I personally came here for the off-season dynasty talk and I must agree that the coverage is lacking. I apologize if I am Hipple-ing here but along with the staff's apologies and promises, I would like to hear some serious requests of what we would like to have as far as coverage. I was disappointed that the thread I started asking about the "results" of the member's picks, didn't even get an acknowledgment from the Mods/staff. I realize that Bloom has a young child, and expects to have more time next year, but the time children can demand usually grows with their age; young parents also tend to have more children. I would hate for me to be wondering if the wonderful news of Bloom having another child could somehow make a lesser product for me. One of the suggestions was to hire another writer/assistant with prize money, some child care for the staff might be easier and more cost effective. I post this with all due respect here, and I love this site (it has got me through some dark nights and made me recollect on some happy memories), but the football info is what got me here and I sometime strain to find the info I need from the professionals on this site. So to add my request: I would like to see a dynasty ranking list with a sentence or two on each player explaining the ranking, so that I can see what the methodology used in making that pick was and also to see how "dated" that methodology is. Obviously updated rankings are great because everything is current but the little blurbs after the rankings would allow me to determine if I subscribe with the theory behind the pick; it would also be useful to the prognosticator to glance quickly and see any glaringly wrong statements. I would also like, and to a small extent this happening, to see exactly where they feel the in season "adds" fit in; not just amongst the "adds" but in the generally accepted roster-ed players.

wished i was this articulate, and I as well would like rakings with a short reason why

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Truth is that not many people care about dynasty content.

Gotta love broad, factual statements that aren't actually factual. Just broad."A small percentage" I could maybe agree with (assuming we agreed upon "small"). "Not as many" would be OK. "Not many people care about [it]" is silly, though.

You're just picking nits. It's obvious what BNB meant in context. To think "a small percentage" is accurate and "not many" is inaccurate is silly. They're the same thing - the number of people who are interested in dynasty content, relatively speaking, is small.

The contest is basically the only reason I subscribe anymore, and I know I'm not the only one who feels that way. It gets 10,000+ entries a year. I've gotten several of my friends to subscribe to FBG just so they could enter the contest. To think it's not one of the biggest draws, if not the biggest draw, to this site is also silly. I could be wrong, and you certainly don't have to take my word for it, but it's not hard to tell where their priorities are, since they allocate $35,000+ to the contest every year, and obviously not much to dynasty content.Honestly, I think dynasty guys overestimate how many other dynasty guys there are out there. You play in leagues with other dynasty guys, and you discuss dynasty topics with other dynasty guys online, so it might seem like the fantasy football landscape is awash with dynasty leagues, but the reality is that it's still mostly a small niche market.

Well, the first part was a typo on my part. I specifically meant to type "a smaller percentage" instead of "a small percentage". My mistake there, though. I'll take my lumps.Other than that, though, saying somethig as a fact, like "there are not that many" with no facts to back it up or without being more specific as to what "that many" even means is not something I'm going to agree with - no matter how you try to spin it with "well, you know what he meant". I looked for percentage stats on ESPN or CBS showing the how much were keeper/dynasty but couldn't find it. Until then, I, along with many others will disagree with the statements stating there are "not many" of us. Now, maybe we just disagree on what "not many" means. I see that as only 3-5% or so. I think we might be above that. Just a guess, though.

Either way, there's no stats to back it up that I've seen yet. I would strongly disagree that the contest is the biggest draw here, though, among subscribers. I'm talking subscribers - maybe you, along with some of the others, are not. That could be the problem.

Of the 10,000+ entries in the Subscriber Contest, what percentage do you think are FBG subscribers?

 

[Joe Bryant]

Hi Folks,

Talked to the guys and the plan is to have an updated set of rankings ready during Week 12. For these to have much value, they take a good bit of time to do. Maybe we can shoot for a quarterly update in the future hitting Week 4, 8, 12 and 16 or something. Not a promise, but an idea.

Thanks for the feedback on this.

J

 

[Hoss Style]

Of the 10,000+ entries in the Subscriber Contest, what percentage do you think are FBG subscribers?

Well, the answer's pretty obvious there.I don't do any of the contests here so I'm not sure about this but I think there are multiple contests on the site. I'm guessing that some of them are open to non subscribers as well. Could be wrong.Let's just look at the total for the contest you brought up though. 10,000+ in that contest - all subscribers. How many of those absolutely do not come here for any information on this site? We can only guess. Let's be very conservative and say that only 40% of the people in the contest use any information from here. That percentage is probably ridiculously low. But anyhow, that's 4,000 right there. Now how many on here, like me, aren't in the contest and just focus in the leagues that they are in? What if only 50% of the people who subscribe enter the contest? That's 10,000+ there that come here for info. Add the 4,000+ that enter the contests as well and you're at 14,000+.Back to my original point - I think a good percentage of that 14k are dynasty or keeper league players in at least one of their leagues or they have been at some point.That's all I'm saying. I disagree we are "not many". A smaller percentage, no doubt, though.As a side note, if you're reading this Joe, how many subscribers do you actually have here? I see lots of places tout their number of subscribers so I don't think you'd mind letting us know, right? Or wrong?

 

[Hoss Style]

Hi Folks,Talked to the guys and the plan is to have an updated set of rankings ready during Week 12. For these to have much value, they take a good bit of time to do. Maybe we can shoot for a quarterly update in the future hitting Week 4, 8, 12 and 16 or something. Not a promise, but an idea. Thanks for the feedback on this.J

Hey Joe, if quarterly is a strain (and I know Dynasty Rankings are a PITA) I think most of us would be fine with three times during the season, as well. Weeks 5, 10 and 15/16 would be more than suffcient to allow us long term FF owners to compare our rankings/thoughts to those of your staff.Thanks for the feedback, as well.

 

[belljr]

I'm bringing back Ones 2 Watch next year, where I look at the top 5 QB, top 10 RB, and top 10 WR in college football that are draft eligible (EACH WEEK). I talk about their weekly performances and discuss their skill set.

Also, the College Football (Deep Sleepers) Dark Phoenix is set to return. It's another weekly feature where I pick 3 breakout players from college football that are not in Ones 2 Watch. Remember writing about Arian Foster during his junior year at Tennessee.

Man I thought I was losing it when I couldn't find this anymore. Always loved these writeups

 

[Ariakis]

Overall from a deadline perspective this is the BEST year I can remember for FBG in the 10 or so years I've been a member.

From a quality perspective I've been disappointed with forward projection quality, lack of dynasty content, and perhaps offseason major article timing.

Other stuff like The Audible and staff availability (and willingness to chat) on Twitter let me just say is AWESOME.

Regarding getting rid of stuff ... let me suggest that stats, game recaps, etc is part of how the staff likely formulates and streamlines their articles. Perhaps move some of that stuff into a subsection where normal subscribers with limited amounts of free time can focus on the big ticket releases.

Improvements for next year:

* Keep up the great work with coming out with the Tuesday Lineup Dominator. Even if the projections aren't reliable yet the tool itself is so helpful when managing multiple leagues.

* Improve the quality and update frequency of FORWARD projections in the Lineup Dominator.

* Look at redoing the "roster strength" functionality of the Dominator series to take PK/DT less into account and later in the year the "value" of players with a bye.

* Consider a better way to forward rank players in the Lineup Dominator like Andre Johnson who are either out or a stud instead of middling weekly forward projections. Beanie Wells a few weeks ago at #50+ was another example.

* Clone Bloom, Matt, both Jeff's, etc.

* Find someone who has great dynasty insight to write about it and give tiered rankings. I don't care as much that JStew is 17 and Starks is 18 other than that tells me they may be of similar value. I want to know how much Gates is worth vs JStew even more.

* Figure out how to set up dynasty rankings for win now teams vs. one year out target teams vs. long-term rebuild teams. Sure I would like the trade value of one player vs. the other but values to an owner are going to be subjective. By tiering up values it should be an easier process if you don't have to focus on whether Gronk or Jimmy Graham should be worth more ... put them in the same tier but ahead of Gates and move on.

* Expand the early look waiver wire to be updated later in the week with recent/breaking news. Figure out a way to highlight changes.

* Put more focus on roster management articles in relation to trading and waiver wire. Who to cut and in what situations to cut is tougher than who to pick up. With so many sites out there, do we really need you to tell us so and so had a good week he gets an upgrade or should be picked up? I need to know who to cut for him!

* More suggestions for preemptive pickups.

* Change the description of the upgrade/downgrade/ww column to more of a running player commentary column.

* Incorporate some sort of import for dynasty stash types on the waiver wire into the Lineup Dominator.

Offseason:

* I have several key drafts before your best articles get released (perfect draft, tiers, etc).

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

 

[Joe Bryant]

Nice.J

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I just wanted to bump this to give you all an update.

There are 3 sets of positional rankings up within the last 14 days. Don't just look at overall; go to the positional rankings. Once I finish mine there will be 4. I did do QBs (so there are 4 sets of QB rankings within the last 14 days) and am working on the rest right now. I doubt I will get them all done today but whatever isn't done today will be completed Friday.

Also, for you IDP players, my IDP dynasty rankings will be done this weekend as well.

I'm going to try to keep them updated at least every 2 weeks going forward.

Thanks for your patience.

 

[Mr Two Cents]

This needs to be a pole, I bet there are more serious dynasty owners than serious re-draft owners. I don't consider quick thrown together leagues on Yahoo or ESPN a serious league.