Dynasty Face-off A.Johnson vs B.Edwards (1 Viewer)

[Rounders]

I have been trying to determine which of these WRs I would rather have for the next 5 years and I would like some feedback.

A.Johnson

2007 - 9 games, 60 receptions, 851 yards, 8 TDs

Career - 5 seasons, 70 games, 371 receptions, 4804 yards, 25 TDs

Average - 14 games, 74 recptions, 960 yards, 5 TDs

Age: 27 (7/11/81)

B.Edwards

2007 - 16 games, 80 receptions, 1289 yards, 16 TDs

Career - 3 seasons, 42 games, 173 receptions, 2685 yards, 25 TDs

Average - 14 games, 58 recptions, 895 yards, 8 TDs

Age: 25 (2/21/83)

It appears from looking at the numbers that Edwards has been healthier in his limited career and is putting up some good numbers, granted they are inflated with a great 2007. However it seems that when Johnson was on the field he was turning into a monster.

Is this a tossup and comes down to age?

What about their teams. Houston and Cleveland both seem to be turning the corner and could be some nice offenses in 2008 and beyond? Edwards has more weapons around him (Winslow and solid running game) while Johnson seems to have a more freakish talent???

What say you?

 

[Davej626]

I have been trying to determine which of these WRs I would rather have for the next 5 years and I would like some feedback.A.Johnson2007 - 9 games, 60 receptions, 851 yards, 8 TDsCareer - 5 seasons, 70 games, 371 receptions, 4804 yards, 25 TDsAge: 27 (7/11/81)B.Edwards2007 - 16 games, 80 receptions, 1289 yards, 16 TDsCareer - 3 seasons, 42 games, 173 receptions, 2685 yards, 25 TDsAge: 25 (2/21/83)It appears from looking at the numbers that Edwards has been healthier in his limited career and is putting up some good numbers, granted they are inflated with a great 2007. However it seems that when Johnson was on the field he was turning into a monster. Is this a tossup and comes down to age? What about their teams. Houston and Cleveland both seem to be turning the corner and could be some nice offenses in 2008 and beyond? Edwards has more weapons around him (Winslow and solid running game) while Johnson seems to have a more freakish talent???What say you?

I'll take the guy that gets on the field all season...Edwards.

 

[Yitbos69]

I voted AJ.....but it's real close.....I love them both in Dynasty leagues....heck I would love to have either of them in any league format

 

[Yitbos69]

I have been trying to determine which of these WRs I would rather have for the next 5 years and I would like some feedback.A.Johnson2007 - 9 games, 60 receptions, 851 yards, 8 TDsCareer - 5 seasons, 70 games, 371 receptions, 4804 yards, 25 TDsAge: 27 (7/11/81)B.Edwards2007 - 16 games, 80 receptions, 1289 yards, 16 TDsCareer - 3 seasons, 42 games, 173 receptions, 2685 yards, 25 TDsAge: 25 (2/21/83)It appears from looking at the numbers that Edwards has been healthier in his limited career and is putting up some good numbers, granted they are inflated with a great 2007. However it seems that when Johnson was on the field he was turning into a monster. Is this a tossup and comes down to age? What about their teams. Houston and Cleveland both seem to be turning the corner and could be some nice offenses in 2008 and beyond? Edwards has more weapons around him (Winslow and solid running game) while Johnson seems to have a more freakish talent???What say you?

I'll take the guy that gets on the field all season...Edwards.

Edwards missed 6 games in 2005

 

[Keys Myaths]

I have been trying to determine which of these WRs I would rather have for the next 5 years and I would like some feedback.A.Johnson2007 - 9 games, 60 receptions, 851 yards, 8 TDsCareer - 5 seasons, 70 games, 371 receptions, 4804 yards, 25 TDsAge: 27 (7/11/81)B.Edwards2007 - 16 games, 80 receptions, 1289 yards, 16 TDsCareer - 3 seasons, 42 games, 173 receptions, 2685 yards, 25 TDsAge: 25 (2/21/83)It appears from looking at the numbers that Edwards has been healthier in his limited career and is putting up some good numbers, granted they are inflated with a great 2007. However it seems that when Johnson was on the field he was turning into a monster. Is this a tossup and comes down to age? What about their teams. Houston and Cleveland both seem to be turning the corner and could be some nice offenses in 2008 and beyond? Edwards has more weapons around him (Winslow and solid running game) while Johnson seems to have a more freakish talent???What say you?

I'll take the guy that gets on the field all season...Edwards.

Recency error here. Big time.

 

[Gamma1210]

In non-PPR I like Edwards with more of his big play ability, but in PPR its really close and I might lean towards AJ because I think the TDs will come with an improved passing game. This can change with RB changes because he might take some red zones TDs away.

 

[redman]

I have been trying to determine which of these WRs I would rather have for the next 5 years and I would like some feedback.A.Johnson2007 - 9 games, 60 receptions, 851 yards, 8 TDsCareer - 5 seasons, 70 games, 371 receptions, 4804 yards, 25 TDsAge: 27 (7/11/81)B.Edwards2007 - 16 games, 80 receptions, 1289 yards, 16 TDsCareer - 3 seasons, 42 games, 173 receptions, 2685 yards, 25 TDsAge: 25 (2/21/83)It appears from looking at the numbers that Edwards has been healthier in his limited career and is putting up some good numbers, granted they are inflated with a great 2007. However it seems that when Johnson was on the field he was turning into a monster. Is this a tossup and comes down to age? What about their teams. Houston and Cleveland both seem to be turning the corner and could be some nice offenses in 2008 and beyond? Edwards has more weapons around him (Winslow and solid running game) while Johnson seems to have a more freakish talent???What say you?

I'll take the guy that gets on the field all season...Edwards.

Recency error here. Big time.

Johnson's averaged 14 games played per season in his career; Edwards has averaged . . . 14 games played too.

 

[drew05]

As a Braylon Edwards owner, I can honestly say I'd rather have Andre Johnson. Real briefly:

-Edwards meteoric rise this past season is heavily tied with tds. I subscribe to the 'tds are hard to predict/maintain' school of thought (tds are the only area where Edwards far outshines Johnson)

-Both are (relatively) young, so the statistics are a small sample size, but;

-both average exactly 14 games per season

-Johnson averages 1 more catch and 5 more yards per game

-Both are on up and coming teams

-While Edwards currently has more talent to take pressure off of him, Johnson currently is a bigger part of his

team's passing attack- take your pick of the less defended/more targeted wr theory argument.

-Both have had serious injuries and seem 'dinged' a lot- I'm not confident enough to predict who may have a greater

risk of missing more time.

-In the end, I think we have to go with the seemingly greater talent.

-while the argument can be made that Edwards may still be coming into his own and continue improving, I don't

believe we can assume we have seen Johnson's ceiling just because of age. My gut feeling is that the David

Carr factor artificially deflates Johnson's numbers thus far (in my opinion anyways).

-a shortened 2007 season also hides just how effective Andre Johnson may/should be when given a proper

chance if just looking at numbers (the 'believe your eyes' argument- Edwards looked great/clutch, but Johnson looked

like a man playing against boys when he had the ball).

-my 2 cents anyways-

 

[massraider]

I understand the Johnson sentiment, and actually, since Houston's QB situation is more stable, it's probably the safer move.

But I'll take Braylon.

 

[pollardsvision]

In non-PPR I like Edwards with more of his big play ability, but in PPR its really close and I might lean towards AJ because I think the TDs will come with an improved passing game. This can change with RB changes because he might take some red zones TDs away.

i pretty much agree with this assessment.i consider them relatively equal injury risks. johnson feels riskier b/c of the last 2 seasons, but braylon was injury riddled in his 1st 2 seasons (although one was a fluky staph infection). i'd give a slight edge to braylon b/c he's younger and i can at least remember the last time he played more than half a season.in a PPR league, i'd still go with johnson.in a non-PPR league, i'd go with braylon.either way, johnson should turn out to be a great fantasy bargain next season and it's going to be hard for braylon not to underperform his draft position. he's going to be expensive to acquire and the expectations will almost certainly be too high.

 

[switz]

Braylon is just coming into his own, and looked AMAZING this year. He's healthier tha AJ, and I tend to think AJs never going to be fully healthy. I also think Braylon is the better WR of the two, by a minute amount.

 

[dmac37]

Carr- gone

Shaub- taking over

I'll take AJ, we have yet to see his best. With AJ healthy and and a better running game, I can see AJ going off even if Sage comes in for a limited time.

 

[Blackjacks]

Man oh Man is this close. I'd probably go with AJ for one big reason. During my playoff season I have one who will play in a dome for home games and one who plays in Cle. Also for the divisional purposes of weather Houston plays against Indy (dome) Jax.

(very nice weather) and Tenn. which isn't known for horrible weather in late Dec. Compared to Edwards who gets his own field, horrible,Then he gets Pitt (always bad weather that time of year) Cinncy about the same and Balt. which is at best close to Tenn. That is a very important part of picking one of those two.

From a skill standpoint I think these 2 are very close but I might also give a slight edge to AJ. Let's give him another year, and a healthy one at that with Schaub and see how they gel. I would probably have these guys about 4 and 5 respectfully in a dynasty non ppr league.

 

[Davej626]

I have been trying to determine which of these WRs I would rather have for the next 5 years and I would like some feedback.A.Johnson2007 - 9 games, 60 receptions, 851 yards, 8 TDsCareer - 5 seasons, 70 games, 371 receptions, 4804 yards, 25 TDsAge: 27 (7/11/81)B.Edwards2007 - 16 games, 80 receptions, 1289 yards, 16 TDsCareer - 3 seasons, 42 games, 173 receptions, 2685 yards, 25 TDsAge: 25 (2/21/83)It appears from looking at the numbers that Edwards has been healthier in his limited career and is putting up some good numbers, granted they are inflated with a great 2007. However it seems that when Johnson was on the field he was turning into a monster. Is this a tossup and comes down to age? What about their teams. Houston and Cleveland both seem to be turning the corner and could be some nice offenses in 2008 and beyond? Edwards has more weapons around him (Winslow and solid running game) while Johnson seems to have a more freakish talent???What say you?

I'll take the guy that gets on the field all season...Edwards.

Recency error here. Big time.

Perhaps. Since missing six games in 2005, Edwards has started all 32 games in the last two seasons. AJ missed seven games this year, but played in all of the ones previously. So its a wash.I think it comes down to their QBs actually. If you think Schaub is the answer, or Anderson is, then that will effect how the WRs rate.

 

[AllVolUT]

Man oh Man is this close. I'd probably go with AJ for one big reason. During my playoff season I have one who will play in a dome for home games and one who plays in Cle. Also for the divisional purposes of weather Houston plays against Indy (dome) Jax. (very nice weather) and Tenn. which isn't known for horrible weather in late Dec. Compared to Edwards who gets his own field, horrible,Then he gets Pitt (always bad weather that time of year) Cinncy about the same and Balt. which is at best close to Tenn. That is a very important part of picking one of those two. From a skill standpoint I think these 2 are very close but I might also give a slight edge to AJ. Let's give him another year, and a healthy one at that with Schaub and see how they gel. I would probably have these guys about 4 and 5 respectfully in a dynasty non ppr league.

Totally agree.

 

[Smizzy]

I honestly think AJ Vs Braylon Vs Colston is a Wash

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

I'm a Braylon owner, but I'd be very happy with either one. Slight lean to AJ probably because the QB situation is a little more stable, but I also think ideally Cleveland is built as more of a passing offense (Bryalon/KWII) than Houston (modeled after Denver w/ Kubiak). Talent is a wash (both players were the 3rd overall player taken in their drafts IIRC).

Put it this way: If a Braylon-for-AJ straight up deal was offered, I don't think either owner would pull the trigger. They're that close.

 

[hickbones]

In non-PPR I like Edwards with more of his big play ability, but in PPR its really close and I might lean towards AJ because I think the TDs will come with an improved passing game. This can change with RB changes because he might take some red zones TDs away.

i pretty much agree with this assessment.i consider them relatively equal injury risks. johnson feels riskier b/c of the last 2 seasons, but braylon was injury riddled in his 1st 2 seasons (although one was a fluky staph infection). i'd give a slight edge to braylon b/c he's younger and i can at least remember the last time he played more than half a season.

in a PPR league, i'd still go with johnson.

in a non-PPR league, i'd go with braylon.

either way, johnson should turn out to be a great fantasy bargain next season and it's going to be hard for braylon not to underperform his draft position. he's going to be expensive to acquire and the expectations will almost certainly be too high.

Great point

 

[hickbones]

Man oh Man is this close. I'd probably go with AJ for one big reason. During my playoff season I have one who will play in a dome for home games and one who plays in Cle. Also for the divisional purposes of weather Houston plays against Indy (dome) Jax. (very nice weather) and Tenn. which isn't known for horrible weather in late Dec. Compared to Edwards who gets his own field, horrible,Then he gets Pitt (always bad weather that time of year) Cinncy about the same and Balt. which is at best close to Tenn. That is a very important part of picking one of those two. From a skill standpoint I think these 2 are very close but I might also give a slight edge to AJ. Let's give him another year, and a healthy one at that with Schaub and see how they gel. I would probably have these guys about 4 and 5 respectfully in a dynasty non ppr league.

Good point here, too.While this may look like overanalysis to some, this is exactly what I went through this playoff season. I won my league this year with Braylon, so I am partial to him here, but it was hard. I leaned on Anderson and Braylon during the season and had a gut feeling about the weather in the playoffs. I picked up Warner and started him in the playoffs and it paid off. I kept Braylon in during the playoffs and it didn't kill me, but he didn't carry me either.I gotta say, though, that I don't think the two teams are in the same boat. Houston is the #4 team in the toughest division in football and is, imo, a long way from being in the playoff hunt come end of season. Cleveland, however, will be playing hard come the end of the season for awhile. Also, Cleveland's O-line really came together as the season went along and really outplayed Houston's. The rushing attacks and QB protections for both teams aren't even comparable.

 

[Gamma1210]

I wonder if AJ is really going to be a value. The votes are neck and neck, I would be curious if there have been any deals for these two lately so we can look at their value on the trade market.

 

[Da Guru]

It depends..if Anderson is staying as the Browns starter I like Edwards.

 

[JPeso]

It depends..if Anderson is staying as the Browns starter I like Edwards.

My hang up as well. I think Schaub is the real deal. If (when?) Anderson leaves in a year or two, what will Quinn do to Edwards' value?

 

[Rounders]

Pretty close in voting, any other opinions?

 

[MAC_32]

FWIW, Braylon never missed any time in college and while he tore his ACL [followed by the mystery staph infection epidemic that plagued the Browns for the last two seasons] he was not expected to play in 06 until at least November. He is such a fast healer he was back on the field week 1. There were other extenuating circumstances that explained Braylon's struggles in 06, but not being 100% was certainly one of them. He was 100% in 07 and showed on the field, expect more of the same in the future [1000/10 at minimum on a 16 game slate].

All that said, nonPPR - Braylon easy. PPR, Johnson, barely - I prefer consistency in my WRs and in a PPR AJ wins that battle.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

I think if I had to draft as of today there are less question marks with Johnson than Edwards so I would have to side with Johnson. Not that the questions marks are big with Edwards but there are some there.

 

[Blackjacks]

Aj missed 8 games and still finished as the 16th wr. Also the last half of the season was without Schaub and he was still very consistent and put up very good games. The more I think of it I have to go AJ here.

 

[Yitbos69]

Aj missed 8 games and still finished as the 16th wr. Also the last half of the season was without Schaub and he was still very consistent and put up very good games. The more I think of it I have to go AJ here.

AJ averaged 95 yards a game and almost 1 TD per.......pretty solid when he was in the line-up

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Just for the record in my PPR league this season on a point per week average it broke down this way:

1) Moss: 24.206 (record breaking year)

2) A. Johnson: 21.567

3) T. Ownes: 20.733

4) L. Fitzgerald: 20.213

5) R. Wayne: 19.712

6) B. Edwards: 19.181

Both of these guys are awesome dynasty WR's but, the question mark with the Browns QB situation is the only thing swaying me to take Johnson in this one.

 

[moderated]

Just for the record in my PPR league this season on a point per week average it broke down this way:1) Moss: 24.206 (record breaking year)2) A. Johnson: 21.567 3) T. Ownes: 20.7334) L. Fitzgerald: 20.2135) R. Wayne: 19.7126) B. Edwards: 19.181 Both of these guys are awesome dynasty WR's but, the question mark with the Browns QB situation is the only thing swaying me to take Johnson in this one.

Non PPR it broke down as follows. AJ is ahead of Braylon in both formats. I like Braylon, but i'd definitely take AJ if i had to choose.1) Moss, Randy NEP WR 17.9562) Owens, Terrell DAL WR 15.0673) Johnson, Andre HOU WR 14.4564) Edwards, Braylon CLE WR 13.6815) Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR 12.8136) Wayne, Reggie IND WR 12.6507) Jennings, Greg GBP WR 12.615