dynasty players off season (1 Viewer)

[fsufan]

Who are you dynasty players going to try to trade for in the off season?

What are player(s) might come cheap and have a solid 2007?

Who will you try to move because of age, over achieved in 2006?

Who are your sell high and buy low players?

 

[fsufan]

 

[pyite76]

I set my sights on Roy Williams this offseason and landed him in a deal for Cadillac.

He really had an insignificany second half last year, and figured now was the time to upgrad my WR corps.

 

[adomis82]

I'm also targetting Roy Williams but I've never found an owner who undervalues hiim at all.

 

[Pat Patriot]

I went after Housh. Some undervalued him because his stats were down last year because of a couple of missed games. Good Value.

 

[SCGiants]

I went after Housh. Some undervalued him because his stats were down last year because of a couple of missed games. Good Value.

Housh is 30 I believe.. imo that scares me away a bit in a #2 WR.

 

[SCGiants]

Then again it all comes down to how much did you lose for him.

 

[Tag]

Brandon Marshall

 

[fruity pebbles]

Lee Evans

 

[JMon348]

Great Buy Low guys:

Caddy Williams

Eli Manning

 

[Burning Sensation]

Great Buy Low guys:Caddy WilliamsEli Manning

Agreed, its guys like this i am looking for.Greg Jennings is a WR i really like right now. With his numbers falling last year after an ankle injury and the Moss rumors, he could be had very cheap.

 

[Couch Potato]

Those chasing Roy Williams are a year late to the party. He's priced at full value now. What you want to be looking for is guys who are being undervalued because they (A) have not reached potential, or (B) have had a temporary (hopefully) dip in generally accepted value.

Here are some:

(A)

QB Jay Cutler

QB Tarvaris Jackson

QB Matt Schaub

QB Brodie Croyle

RB Cedric Benson

RB Brandon Jacobs

RB DeAngelo Williams

WR Braylon Edwards

WR Reggie Brown

WR Santonio Holmes

WR Vincent Jackson

WR Ron Curry

WR Brandon Jones

WR Demetrius Williams

WR Mark Bradley

(B)

QB Byron Leftwich

RB Clinton Portis

RB Cadillac Williams

RB Lamont Jordan

WR Anquan Boldin

WR Deion Branch (I think DJax gets traded)

WR Randy Moss

WR Jerry Porter

(A) and (B)

QB Eli Manning

QB Ben Roethlisberger

RB Willis McGahee

WR Troy Williamson

 

[SCGiants]

Even though Eli sucks as a NFL qb he has been steadily good as a fantasy qb and with all the hype surrounding him is hardly a buy low candidate imo.

Roth is a good option as is Edge.

 

[SCGiants]

In Dynasty team with room I have one for ya.. David Givens...another Brandon Lloyd.

 

[ThePittbully]

Roy Williams, and I have him now. Kevin Jones, because he was dirt cheap, and I have him now. Brandon Marshall, Adrian Peterson, and Calvin Johnson. All in the draft, two of three locked down, and hopefully will get Marshall in the second

 

[Couch Potato]

In Dynasty team with room I have one for ya.. David Givens...another Brandon Lloyd.

You're confusing me... is "another Brandon Lloyd" supposed to be a positive?I think Givens would be a great buy low if we knew he was going to be healthy in 2007. Everything I've read has said he is unlikely to be ready to start the season, and that could be a big problem for a guy who signed a big contract in 2006. If he has a bad 2007 he is a candidate to be cut at the end of the year if others develop sufficiently.

 

[Couch Potato]

I'll go on record to say here that I don't think Brandon Marshall will ever become special. I know that goes against Bloom and others I respect a lot, but with Walker the #1, and Scheffler about to become a very good fantasy TE IMO (I should have added him to my list above, but I didn't do TEs), I think Marshall's upside is very average in terms of fantasy value.

Edits because I've had a little bit to drink and am messing up.

 

[-OZ-]

Is it a good sign when you own many of the players listed already, and don't have anyone in particular that you're seeking?

 

[EBF]

I would've said LenDale White two months ago, but now that Henry is out of town, White's price has gone up.

The main guys that I like right now are Thomas Jones, Kevin Curtis, and Santonio Holmes. Thomas Jones is particularly underrated. I happen to think he's much better than Leon Washington and that he stands a very realistic chance of having his best season as a pro.

 

[Couch Potato]

I would've said LenDale White two months ago, but now that Henry is out of town, White's price has gone up. The main guys that I like right now are Thomas Jones, Kevin Curtis, and Santonio Holmes. Thomas Jones is particularly underrated. I happen to think he's much better than Leon Washington and that he stands a very realistic chance of having his best season as a pro.

I agree, I think TJones will have a good 2007, but chose not to list older players as dynasty targets (unless I think they are grossly undervalued a la LJordan right now). I didn't list Edge for the same reason although I think he'll outperform expectations in 2007. When I think in terms of dynasty players to target I don't like consider older players since they can be swept away so quickly after just one injury or bad year. They fall more into my "redraft" or "win now" section of a dynasty roster. Maybe I'm not making a lot of sense there to some, but I like to allocate my dynasty roster in subgroups, and no longer will aggressively target any player on the back side of his career. For RBs, that age is 28/29, and both TJones and Edge will be 29 before the 2007 season begins.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Bernard Berrian can still be had pretty cheap. 230 yards and 2 TDs in the 3 playoff games. Replacing the 3 games he was hurt in the middle of the year and either didn't play or perform well with the 3 from the playoffs and he was a 1000 yard 8 TD Wr last year.

 

[The Duff Man]

I second Lee Evans. I somehow managed to pick him up in a reasonable deal but I have feeling he'll be a hard guy to pry away from another owner.

A guy that SHOULD be cheap is Reggie Williams. He played very well with Leftwich under centre last year. In the first 5 games he got 297 yards and 4 TDs. If they can recreate that chemistry it projects to a decent year for a WR #3. Again, the key thing is getting him cheaply. I guess the other key is whether or not Lefty is going to be sticking around Jax. I saw the post on here a few days ago with rumors he was a malcontent.

 

[EBF]

I would've said LenDale White two months ago, but now that Henry is out of town, White's price has gone up. The main guys that I like right now are Thomas Jones, Kevin Curtis, and Santonio Holmes. Thomas Jones is particularly underrated. I happen to think he's much better than Leon Washington and that he stands a very realistic chance of having his best season as a pro.

I agree, I think TJones will have a good 2007, but chose not to list older players as dynasty targets (unless I think they are grossly undervalued a la LJordan right now). I didn't list Edge for the same reason although I think he'll outperform expectations in 2007. When I think in terms of dynasty players to target I don't like consider older players since they can be swept away so quickly after just one injury or bad year. They fall more into my "redraft" or "win now" section of a dynasty roster. Maybe I'm not making a lot of sense there to some, but I like to allocate my dynasty roster in subgroups, and no longer will aggressively target any player on the back side of his career. For RBs, that age is 28/29, and both TJones and Edge will be 29 before the 2007 season begins.

I view him as a strong RB2 if you're in "win now" mode. I think he has 2-3 top notch years left. But I tend to agree with your philosophy. After receiving a lot of criticism from leaguemates in the past for hoarding rookies and young players, it's funny that a good percentage of my worst trades have involved getting that one last player to "win now." The problem with these deals is that there's no margin for error.

 

[EBF]

Bernard Berrian can still be had pretty cheap. 230 yards and 2 TDs in the 3 playoff games. Replacing the 3 games he was hurt in the middle of the year and either didn't play or perform well with the 3 from the playoffs and he was a 1000 yard 8 TD Wr last year.

I nearly listed him. He looked like a star at times last season and was almost uncoverable. He reminds be a bit of Chad Johnson and Darrell Jackson. Does that mean he'll eventually be worth as much as those guys? Of course not, but he's a free agent after this season. He's going to get a fat payday and if he goes to a team with a real QB then he could light it up.

 

[EBF]

I second Lee Evans. I somehow managed to pick him up in a reasonable deal but I have feeling he'll be a hard guy to pry away from another owner.A guy that SHOULD be cheap is Reggie Williams. He played very well with Leftwich under centre last year. In the first 5 games he got 297 yards and 4 TDs. If they can recreate that chemistry it projects to a decent year for a WR #3. Again, the key thing is getting him cheaply. I guess the other key is whether or not Lefty is going to be sticking around Jax. I saw the post on here a few days ago with rumors he was a malcontent.

I like both of these picks. I don't think most people realize how good Lee Evans is. He's one of the top WRs in dynasty, IMO. The guy has all of the talent and football skills needed to be an impact player for years. I like Reggie Williams because he's steadily improved throughout his career, he was a star in college, he was a top 10 pick, and he can be had for dirt cheap. Keep in mind that after three NFL seasons he's still only 23 years old!

 

[SCGiants]

In Dynasty team with room I have one for ya.. David Givens...another Brandon Lloyd.

You're confusing me... is "another Brandon Lloyd" supposed to be a positive?I think Givens would be a great buy low if we knew he was going to be healthy in 2007. Everything I've read has said he is unlikely to be ready to start the season, and that could be a big problem for a guy who signed a big contract in 2006. If he has a bad 2007 he is a candidate to be cut at the end of the year if others develop sufficiently.

Like I said if you have room to stash them. Givens is a fine WR and in a dynasty league he is well young enough to end up a gem. If roster room provides (or a IR option) then an owner has nothing to lose by taking a flier on him. As far as Lloyd I cannot believe the guy is done. I've seen way too many circus catches to believe he isn't highly talented and imo its a matter of time before he is utilized...then stashing him away will have proven itself worthy.. then again thats why he's a deeper sleeper.

 

[EBF]

In Dynasty team with room I have one for ya.. David Givens...another Brandon Lloyd.

You're confusing me... is "another Brandon Lloyd" supposed to be a positive?I think Givens would be a great buy low if we knew he was going to be healthy in 2007. Everything I've read has said he is unlikely to be ready to start the season, and that could be a big problem for a guy who signed a big contract in 2006. If he has a bad 2007 he is a candidate to be cut at the end of the year if others develop sufficiently.

Like I said if you have room to stash them. Givens is a fine WR and in a dynasty league he is well young enough to end up a gem. If roster room provides (or a IR option) then an owner has nothing to lose by taking a flier on him. As far as Lloyd I cannot believe the guy is done. I've seen way too many circus catches to believe he isn't highly talented and imo its a matter of time before he is utilized...then stashing him away will have proven itself worthy.. then again thats why he's a deeper sleeper.

Ask any Niners fan about Brandon Lloyd and you'll get the real scoop. The guy is nothing more than complementary player/backup. Yea, he makes a highlight reel grab every now and then, but he's not a very good WR overall.

 

[SCGiants]

In Dynasty team with room I have one for ya.. David Givens...another Brandon Lloyd.

You're confusing me... is "another Brandon Lloyd" supposed to be a positive?I think Givens would be a great buy low if we knew he was going to be healthy in 2007. Everything I've read has said he is unlikely to be ready to start the season, and that could be a big problem for a guy who signed a big contract in 2006. If he has a bad 2007 he is a candidate to be cut at the end of the year if others develop sufficiently.

Like I said if you have room to stash them. Givens is a fine WR and in a dynasty league he is well young enough to end up a gem. If roster room provides (or a IR option) then an owner has nothing to lose by taking a flier on him. As far as Lloyd I cannot believe the guy is done. I've seen way too many circus catches to believe he isn't highly talented and imo its a matter of time before he is utilized...then stashing him away will have proven itself worthy.. then again thats why he's a deeper sleeper.

Ask any Niners fan about Brandon Lloyd and you'll get the real scoop. The guy is nothing more than complementary player/backup. Yea, he makes a highlight reel grab every now and then, but he's not a very good WR overall.

fair enough.. but why would they say that? As a #1 in SF he had no QB to throw him the ball..in Wash I seen he had some unreachable passes more so than drops.. but stats don't tell that. Just because he was targetted doesn't mean he dropped them all. Yes there was some drops as all WRs have but where that ball was placed is another issue completely. Look at who his QBs have been.. how fair of a look has this guy been given? How many different QBs, coaches and teams in how many years? As Lombardi said if you seen him do it he can do it... consistancy though falls on more laps than just his. This year will mark his second (or is it coming on teh third now?) with Wash and his QB is young, a late flier on him to stash him away imo is still a good move. But its all prognostication regardless.

 

[EBF]

In Dynasty team with room I have one for ya.. David Givens...another Brandon Lloyd.

You're confusing me... is "another Brandon Lloyd" supposed to be a positive?I think Givens would be a great buy low if we knew he was going to be healthy in 2007. Everything I've read has said he is unlikely to be ready to start the season, and that could be a big problem for a guy who signed a big contract in 2006. If he has a bad 2007 he is a candidate to be cut at the end of the year if others develop sufficiently.

Like I said if you have room to stash them. Givens is a fine WR and in a dynasty league he is well young enough to end up a gem. If roster room provides (or a IR option) then an owner has nothing to lose by taking a flier on him. As far as Lloyd I cannot believe the guy is done. I've seen way too many circus catches to believe he isn't highly talented and imo its a matter of time before he is utilized...then stashing him away will have proven itself worthy.. then again thats why he's a deeper sleeper.

Ask any Niners fan about Brandon Lloyd and you'll get the real scoop. The guy is nothing more than complementary player/backup. Yea, he makes a highlight reel grab every now and then, but he's not a very good WR overall.

fair enough.. but why would they say that? As a #1 in SF he had no QB to throw him the ball..in Wash I seen he had some unreachable passes more so than drops.. but stats don't tell that. Just because he was targetted doesn't mean he dropped them all. Yes there was some drops as all WRs have but where that ball was placed is another issue completely. Look at who his QBs have been.. how fair of a look has this guy been given? How many different QBs, coaches and teams in how many years? As Lombardi said if you seen him do it he can do it... consistancy though falls on more laps than just his. This year will mark his second (or is it coming on teh third now?) with Wash and his QB is young, a late flier on him to stash him away imo is still a good move. But its all prognostication regardless.

Judging a WR by his circus catches is like judging a basketball player by his dunks. It just doesn't give you the complete picture. Lloyd quite simply isn't an above average NFL WR. He's not especially fast or quick, he's not especially big or strong, he has trouble separating, he's not especially tough, and he's not very consistent. He's just not very good. It's as simple as that.

 

[Couch Potato]

In Dynasty team with room I have one for ya.. David Givens...another Brandon Lloyd.

You're confusing me... is "another Brandon Lloyd" supposed to be a positive?I think Givens would be a great buy low if we knew he was going to be healthy in 2007. Everything I've read has said he is unlikely to be ready to start the season, and that could be a big problem for a guy who signed a big contract in 2006. If he has a bad 2007 he is a candidate to be cut at the end of the year if others develop sufficiently.

Like I said if you have room to stash them. Givens is a fine WR and in a dynasty league he is well young enough to end up a gem. If roster room provides (or a IR option) then an owner has nothing to lose by taking a flier on him. As far as Lloyd I cannot believe the guy is done. I've seen way too many circus catches to believe he isn't highly talented and imo its a matter of time before he is utilized...then stashing him away will have proven itself worthy.. then again thats why he's a deeper sleeper.

Ask any Niners fan about Brandon Lloyd and you'll get the real scoop. The guy is nothing more than complementary player/backup. Yea, he makes a highlight reel grab every now and then, but he's not a very good WR overall.

I'll agree with that. EBF and I are both bay area dudes and have seen a lot of Lloyd. Some of those highlight reel catches were unnecessary in the first place, truth be told, as being in better position would have resulted in a more normal catch. Aside from that, he just isn't a consistent route runner and seems to be more intent on his rap music than improving his football skills. The 49ers were happy to see him go (robbed WAS in fact, getting a 3rd in 2006 and a 4th in 2007), and I suspect in another year the Redskins will feel the same after he is let go following another disappointing year.EBF, we ought to get together for a beer one of these days.

 

[Couch Potato]

EBF - same time stamp Re: Lloyd. I guess neither of us could let that one slide by without comment, huh?

 

[BigTex]

Kevin Curtis, I dropped him during the season to pickup Bernard Berrian.

During the off season we get to pick up one FA Monday after the draft.

It's first come first serve.

 

[EBF]

In Dynasty team with room I have one for ya.. David Givens...another Brandon Lloyd.

You're confusing me... is "another Brandon Lloyd" supposed to be a positive?I think Givens would be a great buy low if we knew he was going to be healthy in 2007. Everything I've read has said he is unlikely to be ready to start the season, and that could be a big problem for a guy who signed a big contract in 2006. If he has a bad 2007 he is a candidate to be cut at the end of the year if others develop sufficiently.

Like I said if you have room to stash them. Givens is a fine WR and in a dynasty league he is well young enough to end up a gem. If roster room provides (or a IR option) then an owner has nothing to lose by taking a flier on him. As far as Lloyd I cannot believe the guy is done. I've seen way too many circus catches to believe he isn't highly talented and imo its a matter of time before he is utilized...then stashing him away will have proven itself worthy.. then again thats why he's a deeper sleeper.

Ask any Niners fan about Brandon Lloyd and you'll get the real scoop. The guy is nothing more than complementary player/backup. Yea, he makes a highlight reel grab every now and then, but he's not a very good WR overall.

I'll agree with that. EBF and I are both bay area dudes and have seen a lot of Lloyd. Some of those highlight reel catches were unnecessary in the first place, truth be told, as being in better position would have resulted in a more normal catch. Aside from that, he just isn't a consistent route runner and seems to be more intent on his rap music than improving his football skills. The 49ers were happy to see him go (robbed WAS in fact, getting a 3rd in 2006 and a 4th in 2007), and I suspect in another year the Redskins will feel the same after he is let go following another disappointing year.EBF, we ought to get together for a beer one of these days.

I moved to So Cal!

 

[fsufan]

I second Lee Evans. I somehow managed to pick him up in a reasonable deal but I have feeling he'll be a hard guy to pry away from another owner.

I traded my first round pick in 07 for Evans last year right before the trade deadline to make a playoff push.it ended up being the 1.07 pick. I am happy with the trade.