(Dynasty) Rashard Mendenhall Owners (1 Viewer)

[finito]

I think he is a great buy low candidate right now... I was able to get him cheap so I bought him!

I don't think Mendenhall ever starts another game.

I'm curious too. Do you mean in Pitt? Overall? He is only 24 and reportedly only tore the acl.

I think he'll start again, but I think it is worth mentioning he didn't have a very good year before he was hurt. He certainly wasn't lighting things up. There's a chance he becomes part of a RBBC in the future.

 

[duaneok66]

I think he is a great buy low candidate right now... I was able to get him cheap so I bought him!

how cheap???

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Mendy averaged 4.1 and 3.9 YPC the last two years BEFORE he tore his ACL.

 

[Dragon1952]

Mendy averaged 4.1 and 3.9 YPC the last two years BEFORE he tore his ACL.

Also, in 7 of his 15 games last year he would have netted you 8.7 pts or less in PPR 6pt per TD leagues.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Mendy averaged 4.1 and 3.9 YPC the last two years BEFORE he tore his ACL.

What did he do when he had an NFL quality offensive line?

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Mendy averaged 4.1 and 3.9 YPC the last two years BEFORE he tore his ACL.

What did he do when he had an NFL quality offensive line?

The Steelers aren't in the NFL???Lol, I realize they aren't the best...but when is that likely to turn around. Plus they are a pass first time right now.

 

[Touchdown There]

I think he is a great buy low candidate right now... I was able to get him cheap so I bought him!

I don't think Mendenhall ever starts another game.

I'm curious too. Do you mean in Pitt? Overall? He is only 24 and reportedly only tore the acl.

Just one man's opinion, but I think that Mendenhall is one of those players that will never reach his full potential. As a rookie, Tomlin gave him a whopping 19 carries. Then, in his second year (2009) Mendenhall was supposed to be "the guy". On his first 4 carries (in week 1) he had 6 yards and then Tomlin sat him the rest of the game. In game 2 he gave Mendenhall 3 carries. In week 3 he did not let Mendenhall dress for the game. Tomlin made it clear to the media he was doing some hard coaching. Then, in week 4, he gave Mendenhall 29 carries and he blew up for the rest of the year.In 2010, Mendenhall had 324 attempts for 1274 yards...that's only 3.9 per carry. The fantasy community was very happy with his output, but that does not mean that Tomlin was OK with it. Like Stafford, a high volume of attempts with average output can still make you a fantasy star. This year Mendenhall only had one game over 20 carries. The coaches were already reducing his workload. He had a grand total of 228 carries on the year and did not break 1000 yards. Fantasy owners expected a lot more. I know he tore his ACL but it was half way through the week 17 game.IMO the Steelers were already limiting his touches and that only happens when a RB is disappointing. He tore his ACL so late in the 2011 season that it is reasonable to assume that the knee will not be at full strength next year. There is a good chance Mendenhall starts 2012 on the PUP and another RB will have a chance to step up. He will be a free agent in 2013 and maybe the Steeler's have seen enough of Mendenhall to know that he is not "the guy".My opinion could be off base. If I am wrong about the long-term value of Mendenhall that is fine, but I still feel very confident that he will have a poor 2012 and his value will still go lower from where it is today. What kind of a contract will he command in 2013? Just some stuff to think about in dynasty.Mendenhall: SellJ Charles: Buy

 

[finito]

Mendy averaged 4.1 and 3.9 YPC the last two years BEFORE he tore his ACL.

What did he do when he had an NFL quality offensive line?

Check out Redman's numbers behind the same line last year.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Mendy averaged 4.1 and 3.9 YPC the last two years BEFORE he tore his ACL.

What did he do when he had an NFL quality offensive line?

Check out Redman's numbers behind the same line last year.

4.4 ypc? with a much smaller sample size.

 

[Gandalf]

I think he is a great buy low candidate right now... I was able to get him cheap so I bought him!

how cheap???

In a couple of leagues I got him essentially as a thrown in. Seriously owners are valuing him as if his career is over. Time to buy because what is your risk if you get him for next to nothing. I do think he is more talented than his stats over the past two seasons suggest.

 

[Touchdown There]

I think he is a great buy low candidate right now... I was able to get him cheap so I bought him!

how cheap???

In a couple of leagues I got him essentially as a thrown in. Seriously owners are valuing him as if his career is over. Time to buy because what is your risk if you get him for next to nothing. I do think he is more talented than his stats over the past two seasons suggest.

Post the two trades you made to acquire him.

 

[BeTheMatch]

I think he is a great buy low candidate right now... I was able to get him cheap so I bought him!

I don't think Mendenhall ever starts another game.

I'm curious too. Do you mean in Pitt? Overall? He is only 24 and reportedly only tore the acl.

Just one man's opinion, but I think that Mendenhall is one of those players that will never reach his full potential. As a rookie, Tomlin gave him a whopping 19 carries. Then, in his second year (2009) Mendenhall was supposed to be "the guy". On his first 4 carries (in week 1) he had 6 yards and then Tomlin sat him the rest of the game. In game 2 he gave Mendenhall 3 carries. In week 3 he did not let Mendenhall dress for the game. Tomlin made it clear to the media he was doing some hard coaching. Then, in week 4, he gave Mendenhall 29 carries and he blew up for the rest of the year.In 2010, Mendenhall had 324 attempts for 1274 yards...that's only 3.9 per carry. The fantasy community was very happy with his output, but that does not mean that Tomlin was OK with it. Like Stafford, a high volume of attempts with average output can still make you a fantasy star. This year Mendenhall only had one game over 20 carries. The coaches were already reducing his workload. He had a grand total of 228 carries on the year and did not break 1000 yards. Fantasy owners expected a lot more. I know he tore his ACL but it was half way through the week 17 game.

IMO the Steelers were already limiting his touches and that only happens when a RB is disappointing. He tore his ACL so late in the 2011 season that it is reasonable to assume that the knee will not be at full strength next year. There is a good chance Mendenhall starts 2012 on the PUP and another RB will have a chance to step up. He will be a free agent in 2013 and maybe the Steeler's have seen enough of Mendenhall to know that he is not "the guy".

My opinion could be off base. If I am wrong about the long-term value of Mendenhall that is fine, but I still feel very confident that he will have a poor 2012 and his value will still go lower from where it is today. What kind of a contract will he command in 2013? Just some stuff to think about in dynasty.

Mendenhall: Sell

J Charles: Buy

And you expect anyone to take you seriously with statements like this, which prove you have no idea what you're talking about? This has gotta be a fishing trip.

 

[Touchdown There]

I think he is a great buy low candidate right now... I was able to get him cheap so I bought him!

I don't think Mendenhall ever starts another game.

I'm curious too. Do you mean in Pitt? Overall? He is only 24 and reportedly only tore the acl.

Just one man's opinion, but I think that Mendenhall is one of those players that will never reach his full potential. As a rookie, Tomlin gave him a whopping 19 carries. Then, in his second year (2009) Mendenhall was supposed to be "the guy". On his first 4 carries (in week 1) he had 6 yards and then Tomlin sat him the rest of the game. In game 2 he gave Mendenhall 3 carries. In week 3 he did not let Mendenhall dress for the game. Tomlin made it clear to the media he was doing some hard coaching. Then, in week 4, he gave Mendenhall 29 carries and he blew up for the rest of the year.In 2010, Mendenhall had 324 attempts for 1274 yards...that's only 3.9 per carry. The fantasy community was very happy with his output, but that does not mean that Tomlin was OK with it. Like Stafford, a high volume of attempts with average output can still make you a fantasy star. This year Mendenhall only had one game over 20 carries. The coaches were already reducing his workload. He had a grand total of 228 carries on the year and did not break 1000 yards. Fantasy owners expected a lot more. I know he tore his ACL but it was half way through the week 17 game.

IMO the Steelers were already limiting his touches and that only happens when a RB is disappointing. He tore his ACL so late in the 2011 season that it is reasonable to assume that the knee will not be at full strength next year. There is a good chance Mendenhall starts 2012 on the PUP and another RB will have a chance to step up. He will be a free agent in 2013 and maybe the Steeler's have seen enough of Mendenhall to know that he is not "the guy".

My opinion could be off base. If I am wrong about the long-term value of Mendenhall that is fine, but I still feel very confident that he will have a poor 2012 and his value will still go lower from where it is today. What kind of a contract will he command in 2013? Just some stuff to think about in dynasty.

Mendenhall: Sell

J Charles: Buy

And you expect anyone to take you seriously with statements like this, which prove you have no idea what you're talking about? This has gotta be a fishing trip.

I was presenting a timeline. You are focusing on part of my post like it was my main point. Take a step back and view it holistically to get a feel for where the Steelers stand. I am aware that others will disagree about Mendenhall, so what you call a fishing trip is just message board discussion. Don't take it personally. I may be wrong, but others asked nicely why I felt the way I feel and I presented that as best as I could. In my mind, Mendenhall is not a "baller". There are guys that live in the zone, like Ray Lewis and Brandon Marshall, and play to the maximum of their talent. I question whether or not Mendenhall likes playing football.

IamTheMatch

 

[The Captain]

Is someone is selling low, I'm buying.

 

[BeTheMatch]

I think he is a great buy low candidate right now... I was able to get him cheap so I bought him!

I don't think Mendenhall ever starts another game.

I'm curious too. Do you mean in Pitt? Overall? He is only 24 and reportedly only tore the acl.

Just one man's opinion, but I think that Mendenhall is one of those players that will never reach his full potential. As a rookie, Tomlin gave him a whopping 19 carries. Then, in his second year (2009) Mendenhall was supposed to be "the guy". On his first 4 carries (in week 1) he had 6 yards and then Tomlin sat him the rest of the game. In game 2 he gave Mendenhall 3 carries. In week 3 he did not let Mendenhall dress for the game. Tomlin made it clear to the media he was doing some hard coaching. Then, in week 4, he gave Mendenhall 29 carries and he blew up for the rest of the year.In 2010, Mendenhall had 324 attempts for 1274 yards...that's only 3.9 per carry. The fantasy community was very happy with his output, but that does not mean that Tomlin was OK with it. Like Stafford, a high volume of attempts with average output can still make you a fantasy star. This year Mendenhall only had one game over 20 carries. The coaches were already reducing his workload. He had a grand total of 228 carries on the year and did not break 1000 yards. Fantasy owners expected a lot more. I know he tore his ACL but it was half way through the week 17 game.

IMO the Steelers were already limiting his touches and that only happens when a RB is disappointing. He tore his ACL so late in the 2011 season that it is reasonable to assume that the knee will not be at full strength next year. There is a good chance Mendenhall starts 2012 on the PUP and another RB will have a chance to step up. He will be a free agent in 2013 and maybe the Steeler's have seen enough of Mendenhall to know that he is not "the guy".

My opinion could be off base. If I am wrong about the long-term value of Mendenhall that is fine, but I still feel very confident that he will have a poor 2012 and his value will still go lower from where it is today. What kind of a contract will he command in 2013? Just some stuff to think about in dynasty.

Mendenhall: Sell

J Charles: Buy

And you expect anyone to take you seriously with statements like this, which prove you have no idea what you're talking about? This has gotta be a fishing trip.

I was presenting a timeline. You are focusing on part of my post like it was my main point. Take a step back and view it holistically to get a feel for where the Steelers stand. I am aware that others will disagree about Mendenhall, so what you call a fishing trip is just message board discussion. Don't take it personally. I may be wrong, but others asked nicely why I felt the way I feel and I presented that as best as I could. In my mind, Mendenhall is not a "baller". There are guys that live in the zone, like Ray Lewis and Brandon Marshall, and play to the maximum of their talent. I question whether or not Mendenhall likes playing football.

IamTheMatch

No, I'm focusing on the part where you said "Tomlin gave him a whopping 19 carries as a rookie." Which clearly shows that you don't know that he suffered a fractured shoulder and was on IR for almost all of his rookie season. So, again, you don't know what you're talking about. So don't come in spewing a bunch of numbers as "evidence" for your preposterous opinion that Mendenhall will never start a game again.

 

[Touchdown There]

I think he is a great buy low candidate right now... I was able to get him cheap so I bought him!

I don't think Mendenhall ever starts another game.

I'm curious too. Do you mean in Pitt? Overall? He is only 24 and reportedly only tore the acl.

Just one man's opinion, but I think that Mendenhall is one of those players that will never reach his full potential. As a rookie, Tomlin gave him a whopping 19 carries. Then, in his second year (2009) Mendenhall was supposed to be "the guy". On his first 4 carries (in week 1) he had 6 yards and then Tomlin sat him the rest of the game. In game 2 he gave Mendenhall 3 carries. In week 3 he did not let Mendenhall dress for the game. Tomlin made it clear to the media he was doing some hard coaching. Then, in week 4, he gave Mendenhall 29 carries and he blew up for the rest of the year.In 2010, Mendenhall had 324 attempts for 1274 yards...that's only 3.9 per carry. The fantasy community was very happy with his output, but that does not mean that Tomlin was OK with it. Like Stafford, a high volume of attempts with average output can still make you a fantasy star. This year Mendenhall only had one game over 20 carries. The coaches were already reducing his workload. He had a grand total of 228 carries on the year and did not break 1000 yards. Fantasy owners expected a lot more. I know he tore his ACL but it was half way through the week 17 game.

IMO the Steelers were already limiting his touches and that only happens when a RB is disappointing. He tore his ACL so late in the 2011 season that it is reasonable to assume that the knee will not be at full strength next year. There is a good chance Mendenhall starts 2012 on the PUP and another RB will have a chance to step up. He will be a free agent in 2013 and maybe the Steeler's have seen enough of Mendenhall to know that he is not "the guy".

My opinion could be off base. If I am wrong about the long-term value of Mendenhall that is fine, but I still feel very confident that he will have a poor 2012 and his value will still go lower from where it is today. What kind of a contract will he command in 2013? Just some stuff to think about in dynasty.

Mendenhall: Sell

J Charles: Buy

And you expect anyone to take you seriously with statements like this, which prove you have no idea what you're talking about? This has gotta be a fishing trip.

I was presenting a timeline. You are focusing on part of my post like it was my main point. Take a step back and view it holistically to get a feel for where the Steelers stand. I am aware that others will disagree about Mendenhall, so what you call a fishing trip is just message board discussion. Don't take it personally. I may be wrong, but others asked nicely why I felt the way I feel and I presented that as best as I could. In my mind, Mendenhall is not a "baller". There are guys that live in the zone, like Ray Lewis and Brandon Marshall, and play to the maximum of their talent. I question whether or not Mendenhall likes playing football.

IamTheMatch

No, I'm focusing on the part where you said "Tomlin gave him a whopping 19 carries as a rookie." Which clearly shows that you don't know that he suffered a fractured shoulder and was on IR for almost all of his rookie season. So, again, you don't know what you're talking about. So don't come in spewing a bunch of numbers as "evidence" for your preposterous opinion that Mendenhall will never start a game again.

No, you are taking things personally because you do not like what I said. 19 carries in 4 games is 4.75 carries per game. Is your point that he would have been a stud with less than 5 carries per game? You are not coming in here with your own evidence, you are just being negative and denouncing mine because you have a different viewpoint on Mendenhall. Go ahead and forecast what you think will happen with Mendenhall and we can revisit another time.

 

[Touchdown There]

cstu with 30,000 posts and thoughts on Mendenhall.

The Real Hipster Doofus, member since 2005 thinks Mendenhall is "just a guy".

Jacobo started this thread because Mendenhall has underperformed, now has a torn ACL and will be in a contract year.

BeTheMatch, you can also peruse this thread for others that disagree with your opinion. Don't bring your negativity in here because you have Mendenhall on your fantasy teams.

 

[Inspiration]

cstu with 30,000 posts and thoughts on Mendenhall.

The Real Hipster Doofus, member since 2005 thinks Mendenhall is "just a guy".

Jacobo started this thread because Mendenhall has underperformed, now has a torn ACL and will be in a contract year.

BeTheMatch, you can also peruse this thread for others that disagree with your opinion. Don't bring your negativity in here because you have Mendenhall on your fantasy teams.

 

[finito]

I think he is a great buy low candidate right now... I was able to get him cheap so I bought him!

I don't think Mendenhall ever starts another game.

I'm curious too. Do you mean in Pitt? Overall? He is only 24 and reportedly only tore the acl.

Just one man's opinion, but I think that Mendenhall is one of those players that will never reach his full potential. As a rookie, Tomlin gave him a whopping 19 carries. Then, in his second year (2009) Mendenhall was supposed to be "the guy". On his first 4 carries (in week 1) he had 6 yards and then Tomlin sat him the rest of the game. In game 2 he gave Mendenhall 3 carries. In week 3 he did not let Mendenhall dress for the game. Tomlin made it clear to the media he was doing some hard coaching. Then, in week 4, he gave Mendenhall 29 carries and he blew up for the rest of the year.In 2010, Mendenhall had 324 attempts for 1274 yards...that's only 3.9 per carry. The fantasy community was very happy with his output, but that does not mean that Tomlin was OK with it. Like Stafford, a high volume of attempts with average output can still make you a fantasy star. This year Mendenhall only had one game over 20 carries. The coaches were already reducing his workload. He had a grand total of 228 carries on the year and did not break 1000 yards. Fantasy owners expected a lot more. I know he tore his ACL but it was half way through the week 17 game.

IMO the Steelers were already limiting his touches and that only happens when a RB is disappointing. He tore his ACL so late in the 2011 season that it is reasonable to assume that the knee will not be at full strength next year. There is a good chance Mendenhall starts 2012 on the PUP and another RB will have a chance to step up. He will be a free agent in 2013 and maybe the Steeler's have seen enough of Mendenhall to know that he is not "the guy".

My opinion could be off base. If I am wrong about the long-term value of Mendenhall that is fine, but I still feel very confident that he will have a poor 2012 and his value will still go lower from where it is today. What kind of a contract will he command in 2013? Just some stuff to think about in dynasty.

Mendenhall: Sell

J Charles: Buy

And you expect anyone to take you seriously with statements like this, which prove you have no idea what you're talking about? This has gotta be a fishing trip.

I was presenting a timeline. You are focusing on part of my post like it was my main point. Take a step back and view it holistically to get a feel for where the Steelers stand. I am aware that others will disagree about Mendenhall, so what you call a fishing trip is just message board discussion. Don't take it personally. I may be wrong, but others asked nicely why I felt the way I feel and I presented that as best as I could. In my mind, Mendenhall is not a "baller". There are guys that live in the zone, like Ray Lewis and Brandon Marshall, and play to the maximum of their talent. I question whether or not Mendenhall likes playing football.

IamTheMatch

No, I'm focusing on the part where you said "Tomlin gave him a whopping 19 carries as a rookie." Which clearly shows that you don't know that he suffered a fractured shoulder and was on IR for almost all of his rookie season. So, again, you don't know what you're talking about. So don't come in spewing a bunch of numbers as "evidence" for your preposterous opinion that Mendenhall will never start a game again.

Relax, guy. Why so angry? I don't think his opinion is preposterous. Mendenhall wasn't impressive last year. His most productive season he averaged 3.9 ypc. The guy has displayed skills at times, but has he ever been elite? Not even close IMO, and a major injury/limited production when healthy could render him a RBBC back very quickly.

 

[BeTheMatch]

I think he is a great buy low candidate right now... I was able to get him cheap so I bought him!

I don't think Mendenhall ever starts another game.

I'm curious too. Do you mean in Pitt? Overall? He is only 24 and reportedly only tore the acl.

Just one man's opinion, but I think that Mendenhall is one of those players that will never reach his full potential. As a rookie, Tomlin gave him a whopping 19 carries. Then, in his second year (2009) Mendenhall was supposed to be "the guy". On his first 4 carries (in week 1) he had 6 yards and then Tomlin sat him the rest of the game. In game 2 he gave Mendenhall 3 carries. In week 3 he did not let Mendenhall dress for the game. Tomlin made it clear to the media he was doing some hard coaching. Then, in week 4, he gave Mendenhall 29 carries and he blew up for the rest of the year.In 2010, Mendenhall had 324 attempts for 1274 yards...that's only 3.9 per carry. The fantasy community was very happy with his output, but that does not mean that Tomlin was OK with it. Like Stafford, a high volume of attempts with average output can still make you a fantasy star. This year Mendenhall only had one game over 20 carries. The coaches were already reducing his workload. He had a grand total of 228 carries on the year and did not break 1000 yards. Fantasy owners expected a lot more. I know he tore his ACL but it was half way through the week 17 game.

IMO the Steelers were already limiting his touches and that only happens when a RB is disappointing. He tore his ACL so late in the 2011 season that it is reasonable to assume that the knee will not be at full strength next year. There is a good chance Mendenhall starts 2012 on the PUP and another RB will have a chance to step up. He will be a free agent in 2013 and maybe the Steeler's have seen enough of Mendenhall to know that he is not "the guy".

My opinion could be off base. If I am wrong about the long-term value of Mendenhall that is fine, but I still feel very confident that he will have a poor 2012 and his value will still go lower from where it is today. What kind of a contract will he command in 2013? Just some stuff to think about in dynasty.

Mendenhall: Sell

J Charles: Buy

And you expect anyone to take you seriously with statements like this, which prove you have no idea what you're talking about? This has gotta be a fishing trip.

I was presenting a timeline. You are focusing on part of my post like it was my main point. Take a step back and view it holistically to get a feel for where the Steelers stand. I am aware that others will disagree about Mendenhall, so what you call a fishing trip is just message board discussion. Don't take it personally. I may be wrong, but others asked nicely why I felt the way I feel and I presented that as best as I could. In my mind, Mendenhall is not a "baller". There are guys that live in the zone, like Ray Lewis and Brandon Marshall, and play to the maximum of their talent. I question whether or not Mendenhall likes playing football.

IamTheMatch

No, I'm focusing on the part where you said "Tomlin gave him a whopping 19 carries as a rookie." Which clearly shows that you don't know that he suffered a fractured shoulder and was on IR for almost all of his rookie season. So, again, you don't know what you're talking about. So don't come in spewing a bunch of numbers as "evidence" for your preposterous opinion that Mendenhall will never start a game again.

Relax, guy. Why so angry? I don't think his opinion is preposterous. Mendenhall wasn't impressive last year. His most productive season he averaged 3.9 ypc. The guy has displayed skills at times, but has he ever been elite? Not even close IMO, and a major injury/limited production when healthy could render him a RBBC back very quickly.

Angry? Where's the anger? Because I called out a guy for a stupid post? OK, guy.

 

[finito]

I think he is a great buy low candidate right now... I was able to get him cheap so I bought him!

I don't think Mendenhall ever starts another game.

I'm curious too. Do you mean in Pitt? Overall? He is only 24 and reportedly only tore the acl.

Just one man's opinion, but I think that Mendenhall is one of those players that will never reach his full potential. As a rookie, Tomlin gave him a whopping 19 carries. Then, in his second year (2009) Mendenhall was supposed to be "the guy". On his first 4 carries (in week 1) he had 6 yards and then Tomlin sat him the rest of the game. In game 2 he gave Mendenhall 3 carries. In week 3 he did not let Mendenhall dress for the game. Tomlin made it clear to the media he was doing some hard coaching. Then, in week 4, he gave Mendenhall 29 carries and he blew up for the rest of the year.In 2010, Mendenhall had 324 attempts for 1274 yards...that's only 3.9 per carry. The fantasy community was very happy with his output, but that does not mean that Tomlin was OK with it. Like Stafford, a high volume of attempts with average output can still make you a fantasy star. This year Mendenhall only had one game over 20 carries. The coaches were already reducing his workload. He had a grand total of 228 carries on the year and did not break 1000 yards. Fantasy owners expected a lot more. I know he tore his ACL but it was half way through the week 17 game.

IMO the Steelers were already limiting his touches and that only happens when a RB is disappointing. He tore his ACL so late in the 2011 season that it is reasonable to assume that the knee will not be at full strength next year. There is a good chance Mendenhall starts 2012 on the PUP and another RB will have a chance to step up. He will be a free agent in 2013 and maybe the Steeler's have seen enough of Mendenhall to know that he is not "the guy".

My opinion could be off base. If I am wrong about the long-term value of Mendenhall that is fine, but I still feel very confident that he will have a poor 2012 and his value will still go lower from where it is today. What kind of a contract will he command in 2013? Just some stuff to think about in dynasty.

Mendenhall: Sell

J Charles: Buy

And you expect anyone to take you seriously with statements like this, which prove you have no idea what you're talking about? This has gotta be a fishing trip.

I was presenting a timeline. You are focusing on part of my post like it was my main point. Take a step back and view it holistically to get a feel for where the Steelers stand. I am aware that others will disagree about Mendenhall, so what you call a fishing trip is just message board discussion. Don't take it personally. I may be wrong, but others asked nicely why I felt the way I feel and I presented that as best as I could. In my mind, Mendenhall is not a "baller". There are guys that live in the zone, like Ray Lewis and Brandon Marshall, and play to the maximum of their talent. I question whether or not Mendenhall likes playing football.

IamTheMatch

No, I'm focusing on the part where you said "Tomlin gave him a whopping 19 carries as a rookie." Which clearly shows that you don't know that he suffered a fractured shoulder and was on IR for almost all of his rookie season. So, again, you don't know what you're talking about. So don't come in spewing a bunch of numbers as "evidence" for your preposterous opinion that Mendenhall will never start a game again.

Relax, guy. Why so angry? I don't think his opinion is preposterous. Mendenhall wasn't impressive last year. His most productive season he averaged 3.9 ypc. The guy has displayed skills at times, but has he ever been elite? Not even close IMO, and a major injury/limited production when healthy could render him a RBBC back very quickly.

Angry? Where's the anger? Because I called out a guy for a stupid post? OK, guy.

It wasn't a stupid post, some good points were made. You took umbrage with one sentence and began hurling insults and calling his opinion "preposterous." Seems a tad angry to me.

 

[yankdog]

I think he is a great buy low candidate right now... I was able to get him cheap so I bought him!

I don't think Mendenhall ever starts another game.

I'm curious too. Do you mean in Pitt? Overall? He is only 24 and reportedly only tore the acl.

Just one man's opinion, but I think that Mendenhall is one of those players that will never reach his full potential. As a rookie, Tomlin gave him a whopping 19 carries. Then, in his second year (2009) Mendenhall was supposed to be "the guy". On his first 4 carries (in week 1) he had 6 yards and then Tomlin sat him the rest of the game. In game 2 he gave Mendenhall 3 carries. In week 3 he did not let Mendenhall dress for the game. Tomlin made it clear to the media he was doing some hard coaching. Then, in week 4, he gave Mendenhall 29 carries and he blew up for the rest of the year.In 2010, Mendenhall had 324 attempts for 1274 yards...that's only 3.9 per carry. The fantasy community was very happy with his output, but that does not mean that Tomlin was OK with it. Like Stafford, a high volume of attempts with average output can still make you a fantasy star. This year Mendenhall only had one game over 20 carries. The coaches were already reducing his workload. He had a grand total of 228 carries on the year and did not break 1000 yards. Fantasy owners expected a lot more. I know he tore his ACL but it was half way through the week 17 game.

IMO the Steelers were already limiting his touches and that only happens when a RB is disappointing. He tore his ACL so late in the 2011 season that it is reasonable to assume that the knee will not be at full strength next year. There is a good chance Mendenhall starts 2012 on the PUP and another RB will have a chance to step up. He will be a free agent in 2013 and maybe the Steeler's have seen enough of Mendenhall to know that he is not "the guy".

My opinion could be off base. If I am wrong about the long-term value of Mendenhall that is fine, but I still feel very confident that he will have a poor 2012 and his value will still go lower from where it is today. What kind of a contract will he command in 2013? Just some stuff to think about in dynasty.

Mendenhall: Sell

J Charles: Buy

And you expect anyone to take you seriously with statements like this, which prove you have no idea what you're talking about? This has gotta be a fishing trip.

I was presenting a timeline. You are focusing on part of my post like it was my main point. Take a step back and view it holistically to get a feel for where the Steelers stand. I am aware that others will disagree about Mendenhall, so what you call a fishing trip is just message board discussion. Don't take it personally. I may be wrong, but others asked nicely why I felt the way I feel and I presented that as best as I could. In my mind, Mendenhall is not a "baller". There are guys that live in the zone, like Ray Lewis and Brandon Marshall, and play to the maximum of their talent. I question whether or not Mendenhall likes playing football.

IamTheMatch

No, I'm focusing on the part where you said "Tomlin gave him a whopping 19 carries as a rookie." Which clearly shows that you don't know that he suffered a fractured shoulder and was on IR for almost all of his rookie season. So, again, you don't know what you're talking about. So don't come in spewing a bunch of numbers as "evidence" for your preposterous opinion that Mendenhall will never start a game again.

Relax, guy. Why so angry? I don't think his opinion is preposterous. Mendenhall wasn't impressive last year. His most productive season he averaged 3.9 ypc. The guy has displayed skills at times, but has he ever been elite? Not even close IMO, and a major injury/limited production when healthy could render him a RBBC back very quickly.

Angry? Where's the anger? Because I called out a guy for a stupid post? OK, guy.

It wasn't a stupid post, some good points were made. You took umbrage with one sentence and began hurling insults and calling his opinion "preposterous." Seems a tad angry to me.

 

[Touchdown There]

I think he is a great buy low candidate right now... I was able to get him cheap so I bought him!

I don't think Mendenhall ever starts another game.

I'm curious too. Do you mean in Pitt? Overall? He is only 24 and reportedly only tore the acl.

Just one man's opinion, but I think that Mendenhall is one of those players that will never reach his full potential. As a rookie, Tomlin gave him a whopping 19 carries. Then, in his second year (2009) Mendenhall was supposed to be "the guy". On his first 4 carries (in week 1) he had 6 yards and then Tomlin sat him the rest of the game. In game 2 he gave Mendenhall 3 carries. In week 3 he did not let Mendenhall dress for the game. Tomlin made it clear to the media he was doing some hard coaching. Then, in week 4, he gave Mendenhall 29 carries and he blew up for the rest of the year.In 2010, Mendenhall had 324 attempts for 1274 yards...that's only 3.9 per carry. The fantasy community was very happy with his output, but that does not mean that Tomlin was OK with it. Like Stafford, a high volume of attempts with average output can still make you a fantasy star. This year Mendenhall only had one game over 20 carries. The coaches were already reducing his workload. He had a grand total of 228 carries on the year and did not break 1000 yards. Fantasy owners expected a lot more. I know he tore his ACL but it was half way through the week 17 game.

IMO the Steelers were already limiting his touches and that only happens when a RB is disappointing. He tore his ACL so late in the 2011 season that it is reasonable to assume that the knee will not be at full strength next year. There is a good chance Mendenhall starts 2012 on the PUP and another RB will have a chance to step up. He will be a free agent in 2013 and maybe the Steeler's have seen enough of Mendenhall to know that he is not "the guy".

My opinion could be off base. If I am wrong about the long-term value of Mendenhall that is fine, but I still feel very confident that he will have a poor 2012 and his value will still go lower from where it is today. What kind of a contract will he command in 2013? Just some stuff to think about in dynasty.

Mendenhall: Sell

J Charles: Buy

And you expect anyone to take you seriously with statements like this, which prove you have no idea what you're talking about? This has gotta be a fishing trip.

I was presenting a timeline. You are focusing on part of my post like it was my main point. Take a step back and view it holistically to get a feel for where the Steelers stand. I am aware that others will disagree about Mendenhall, so what you call a fishing trip is just message board discussion. Don't take it personally. I may be wrong, but others asked nicely why I felt the way I feel and I presented that as best as I could. In my mind, Mendenhall is not a "baller". There are guys that live in the zone, like Ray Lewis and Brandon Marshall, and play to the maximum of their talent. I question whether or not Mendenhall likes playing football.

IamTheMatch

No, I'm focusing on the part where you said "Tomlin gave him a whopping 19 carries as a rookie." Which clearly shows that you don't know that he suffered a fractured shoulder and was on IR for almost all of his rookie season. So, again, you don't know what you're talking about. So don't come in spewing a bunch of numbers as "evidence" for your preposterous opinion that Mendenhall will never start a game again.

Relax, guy. Why so angry? I don't think his opinion is preposterous. Mendenhall wasn't impressive last year. His most productive season he averaged 3.9 ypc. The guy has displayed skills at times, but has he ever been elite? Not even close IMO, and a major injury/limited production when healthy could render him a RBBC back very quickly.

Angry? Where's the anger? Because I called out a guy for a stupid post? OK, guy.

It wasn't a stupid post, some good points were made. You took umbrage with one sentence and began hurling insults and calling his opinion "preposterous." Seems a tad angry to me.

Xanax, beta blockers, or the green stinky works for angry guys.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Xanax, beta blockers, or the green stinky works for angry guys.

Unfortunately, they don't make pills for your condition.

 

[Tau837]

 

[BeTheMatch]

I apologize. Hate when other people do this. Couldn't help myself.

 

[Black&Gold]

I apologize. Hate when other people do this. Couldn't help myself.

As a Pittsburgh homer....I've aquired Redman in both of my dynasty leagues. I'm seeing a "Wally Pipp" here. I laugh at the Mendy owners who get so defensive at the thought.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

There may be someone who "Wally Pips" Mendenhall, but it probably won't be Redman. At least not beyond 2012. The guy is just a "meh" back. I don't get the erotic-level lovefest most Steeler fans have for him. He's sort of a plodder that will get you three when you need one...which is good....and will also get you three when you need 4...which is not good. He also puts the ball on the ground. Bad juju, that.

Remdan's a nice complimentary/SY back. Nothing more.

Mendenhall's value for '12 is basically in the tank. He won't be cut or traded and there's a very real chance he doesn't see any action until Week 7, at the earliest. At that point, there's no knowing what may/may not happen given circumstances at that time(how the new offense is working, who is/isn't hurt for Pittsburgh at the time, how many times Redman has fumbled by then, etc. etc. etc.).

With his contract being up, I can totally see the Steelers trying to sign him to another deal after they see if he makes it back okay....at a cut rate, bargain price citing his injury issues as leverage. Unless he has the world's worst agent, or really wants to stay in Pittsburgh, Mendenhall's next team will determine how much value he'll have going forward. He'll want to cash in and I doubt the Steelers will pay him.

You almost have to hold him for now and then deal him off at the first sign of productivity, unless you're feeling lucky/want to wait out the '13 offseason to see where he winds up.

 

[Black&Gold]

There may be someone who "Wally Pips" Mendenhall, but it probably won't be Redman. At least not beyond 2012. The guy is just a "meh" back. I don't get the erotic-level lovefest most Steeler fans have for him. He's sort of a plodder that will get you three when you need one...which is good....and will also get you three when you need 4...which is not good. He also puts the ball on the ground. Bad juju, that.Remdan's a nice complimentary/SY back. Nothing more.Mendenhall's value for '12 is basically in the tank. He won't be cut or traded and there's a very real chance he doesn't see any action until Week 7, at the earliest. At that point, there's no knowing what may/may not happen given circumstances at that time(how the new offense is working, who is/isn't hurt for Pittsburgh at the time, how many times Redman has fumbled by then, etc. etc. etc.).With his contract being up, I can totally see the Steelers trying to sign him to another deal after they see if he makes it back okay....at a cut rate, bargain price citing his injury issues as leverage. Unless he has the world's worst agent, or really wants to stay in Pittsburgh, Mendenhall's next team will determine how much value he'll have going forward. He'll want to cash in and I doubt the Steelers will pay him.You almost have to hold him for now and then deal him off at the first sign of productivity, unless you're feeling lucky/want to wait out the '13 offseason to see where he winds up.

I agree that Mendy is a hold. The Steelers may try to give their former 1st rounder another shot. I do disagree however on your guage of Redman. He looked like a better RB when he got his chances. He had the 2 fumbles late in the season but other than that, I don't remember many fumbles. He hits the hole harder and always gets positive yardage. Mendy can take it to the house if he has a hole big enough for a Mack truck to run through but he dances around too much. Just look @ the stats in the 2 games that Ike started. Mendy only had a couple of games like that. Dwyer is another name to keep in mind but I think Ike gets first crack. Mendy is a hold but I'd go get Ike as well.

 

[finito]

Last game of the season when Mendenhall went down, Redman had:

19 carries, 92 yds, 1 TD, 4.84 ypc, 2 catches 18 yds

Playoff game vs. Denver:

17 carries, 121 yds, 0 TDs, 7.1 ypc, 2 catches, 21 yds

But he had 2 fumbles.

Redman looked very good in place of Mendenhall IMO. Very limited sample size, but Mendy's career ypc isn't that great, he's one of those RBs who needs a ton of carries to produce it seems like, so I could see Redman cutting into his time. Fumbles could be an issue for sure though.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

@ScottBrown_Trib: Colbert said there is a good chance Rashard Mendenhall (knee) won't be ready for start of 2012 season and will open season on PUP list.

@EdBouchette: Despite Mendenhall's injury status Colbert says RB not necessarily a need

 

[matttyl]

Given Mendy and Redman and Dwyer and Clay and Baron Batch should all be on the Steeler's 2012 roster, what are the chances they either draft another RB, or bring in a FA RB?

I'm thinking they currently have enough youth and depth at the position, and they have enough other needs to satisfy first....but I'm willing to listen to other opinions.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Given Mendy and Redman and Dwyer and Clay and Baron Batch should all be on the Steeler's 2012 roster, what are the chances they either draft another RB, or bring in a FA RB?I'm thinking they currently have enough youth and depth at the position, and they have enough other needs to satisfy first....but I'm willing to listen to other opinions.

I think they roll with what they have. they could bring back Mewelde Moore for 3rd down duty too.

 

[finito]

News Articles > Steelers GM Colbert talks up Isaac Redma...Published Mon Feb 13 3:23:00 p.m. ET 2012(Rotoworld) At his Monday press conference, Steelers GM Kevin Colbert talked up Isaac Redman as a potential answer in the backfield should Rashard Mendenhall (ACL surgery) miss a large chunk of the 2012 season.Analysis: "Our young backup contributors did a nice job (in 2011)," said Colbert, adding that Redman "established himself as an NFL running back." Colbert said tailback is not necessarily a need area for Pittsburgh, despite Mendenhall's knee surgery. Redman, who averaged a respectable 4.35 yards per carry in the regular season, racked up 121 yards on 17 rushes in the Steelers' playoff loss.

 

[HeartoftheLions]

BUMP

Considering Mendenhall as a keeper pick but not really sure what to think will happen to him next season. He is a FA after this season I believe. If he comes back and plays well do we expect he'd go elsewhere. Will he return to #1 RB status?

How would you compare him to say some of the rookie rb's as far as dynasty goes? Compared to Hillman or Wilson even J. Rodgers....

 

[Touchdown There]

I think he is a great buy low candidate right now... I was able to get him cheap so I bought him!

I don't think Mendenhall ever starts another game.

I'm curious too. Do you mean in Pitt? Overall? He is only 24 and reportedly only tore the acl.

Just one man's opinion, but I think that Mendenhall is one of those players that will never reach his full potential. As a rookie, Tomlin gave him a whopping 19 carries. Then, in his second year (2009) Mendenhall was supposed to be "the guy". On his first 4 carries (in week 1) he had 6 yards and then Tomlin sat him the rest of the game. In game 2 he gave Mendenhall 3 carries. In week 3 he did not let Mendenhall dress for the game. Tomlin made it clear to the media he was doing some hard coaching. Then, in week 4, he gave Mendenhall 29 carries and he blew up for the rest of the year.In 2010, Mendenhall had 324 attempts for 1274 yards...that's only 3.9 per carry. The fantasy community was very happy with his output, but that does not mean that Tomlin was OK with it. Like Stafford, a high volume of attempts with average output can still make you a fantasy star. This year Mendenhall only had one game over 20 carries. The coaches were already reducing his workload. He had a grand total of 228 carries on the year and did not break 1000 yards. Fantasy owners expected a lot more. I know he tore his ACL but it was half way through the week 17 game.IMO the Steelers were already limiting his touches and that only happens when a RB is disappointing. He tore his ACL so late in the 2011 season that it is reasonable to assume that the knee will not be at full strength next year. There is a good chance Mendenhall starts 2012 on the PUP and another RB will have a chance to step up. He will be a free agent in 2013 and maybe the Steeler's have seen enough of Mendenhall to know that he is not "the guy".My opinion could be off base. If I am wrong about the long-term value of Mendenhall that is fine, but I still feel very confident that he will have a poor 2012 and his value will still go lower from where it is today. What kind of a contract will he command in 2013? Just some stuff to think about in dynasty.Mendenhall: SellJ Charles: Buy

And you expect anyone to take you seriously with statements like this, which prove you have no idea what you're talking about? This has gotta be a fishing trip.

I was presenting a timeline. You are focusing on part of my post like it was my main point. Take a step back and view it holistically to get a feel for where the Steelers stand. I am aware that others will disagree about Mendenhall, so what you call a fishing trip is just message board discussion. Don't take it personally. I may be wrong, but others asked nicely why I felt the way I feel and I presented that as best as I could. In my mind, Mendenhall is not a "baller". There are guys that live in the zone, like Ray Lewis and Brandon Marshall, and play to the maximum of their talent. I question whether or not Mendenhall likes playing football.IamTheMatch

Not a fishing trip. Just an accurate analysis of a journeyman.