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Dynasty & Redraft: WR Marqise 'albino tiger' Lee, Patriots (1 Viewer)
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Warpig
Footballguy
I over drafted this guy since I'm a Jags homer. I then tried to trade for him in any league I could if I could get him fairly cheap. But now I'm debating cutting him. Seems he's always hurt. I don't get the sense that he is rehabbing as best he can and really trying to get on the field. I'm quickly losing hope in him.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Last year Marquise Lee was considered a first round draft pick before the draft process but fell. When the season began WR Allen Hurns emerged as a deep threat then WR Allen Robinson came back from his injury when Lee had rookie struggles. At the end of the year when A-Rob got injured and Lee came alive.
This offseason the Jags washed their hands of WR Justin Blackmon and WR Ace Sanders. QB Blake Bortles is entering his second season and the Jags have bolstered their O-Line and run game but WR Marquise Lee is recuperating from a knee injury.
How bad is it?
In reading the recent story about Marquise Lee being eased-in to playing time it doesn't sound alarming:
Lee had issues learning the offense and suffered rookie WR struggles however at the end of the year he made a couple of impressive plays.
I think at his current price he is worth a flyer because no one is talking about his upside.
This offseason the Jags washed their hands of WR Justin Blackmon and WR Ace Sanders. QB Blake Bortles is entering his second season and the Jags have bolstered their O-Line and run game but WR Marquise Lee is recuperating from a knee injury.
How bad is it?
In reading the recent story about Marquise Lee being eased-in to playing time it doesn't sound alarming:
Sounds like he likely will miss or be limited at the start of camp. I can see how people who drafted him high would be frustrated but for anyone else his value is probably really low and is dipping into bargain territory because he has upside.
Lee had issues learning the offense and suffered rookie WR struggles however at the end of the year he made a couple of impressive plays.
I think at his current price he is worth a flyer because no one is talking about his upside.
Faust
MVP
What Marqise Lee Injury Issues Mean for Jacksonville Jaguars in 2015:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2524983-what-maqise-lee-injury-issues-mean-for-jacksonville-jaguars-in-2015
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2524983-what-maqise-lee-injury-issues-mean-for-jacksonville-jaguars-in-2015
Faust
MVP
Marqise Lee has been cleared to participate in training camp:
http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2015/7/30/9074369/marqise-lee-has-been-cleared-to-participate-in-training-camp
http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2015/7/30/9074369/marqise-lee-has-been-cleared-to-participate-in-training-camp
Warpig
Footballguy
Faust is repeating what Roto reports. They should be paying him. Or coming after him for posting their news on a competitors site?
Faust
MVP
Jaguars Insider: Injuries keep WR Marqise Lee's reliability in question
http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2015-08-08/story/jaguars-insider-injuries-keep-wr-marqise-lees-reliability
http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2015-08-08/story/jaguars-insider-injuries-keep-wr-marqise-lees-reliability
Faust
MVP
Jaguars OC: Marqise Lee is 'the albino tiger at the zoo'
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000519651/article/jaguars-oc-marqise-lee-is-the-albino-tiger-at-the-zoo
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000519651/article/jaguars-oc-marqise-lee-is-the-albino-tiger-at-the-zoo
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
Just place him on IR already. He can spend the rest of the year getting healthy and working on the Jugs machine to learn how to catch a ball not attached to his body.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Man this guy mailed it in since the beginning. I shoulda listened to Xue.
Remember this kid? Many thought he was the best / most underrated wr in the 2014 draft. He was supposed to be the wr1 for the jags. Injuries derailed him for 2 seasons. Jags thought enough of him to keep him on the roster despite calling him "the albino tiger" BC he could never stay healthy enough to see him on the field.
They like hurns but remember he's an UDFA. They have more draft stock invested in Lee
heads up. Dynasty alert. This kid is only 24, he's healthy and making plays for 2 weeks in a row, outshining hurns and giving his coaches reason to give him more snaps. Bortles seems to be looking for him.
May not be long before he is starting on the outside.
This kid has serious talent. Good dynasty stash. Maybe too premature for redraft still though.
They like hurns but remember he's an UDFA. They have more draft stock invested in Lee
heads up. Dynasty alert. This kid is only 24, he's healthy and making plays for 2 weeks in a row, outshining hurns and giving his coaches reason to give him more snaps. Bortles seems to be looking for him.
May not be long before he is starting on the outside.
This kid has serious talent. Good dynasty stash. Maybe too premature for redraft still though.
jtd13
Footballguy
They just signed Hurns to a 4 year $40mil deal. I think they have more invested in him now.
That said, I like Lee as a cheap end of bench stash. I have a hard time seeing an opportunity for him, but he has some talent.
Zyphros
Footballguy
he and Hurns have roughly the same numbers through 3 games here. Hurns at 13 for 179 and Lee 12 for 141. I haven't watch almost any of the Jags this year, but when I have it seemed that when I tuned in it was Lee taking a crossing route for an extra 10 yards and he provided a spark. Not sure if Hurns is doing the same cause I haven't even seen it but it's worth mentioning that Lee has looked good. If you believe in talent based on the NFL draft then Lee should take over that #2 in time (and in health).
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
Rare sighting.
Encouraging, doubt he supplants Robinson. Though he may not have to, Hurns was an example last year that their passing game can support more than one WR.
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Not necessarily saying he supplants Arob...I think they have different skill sets. But its clear bortles likes throwing to Lee and Lee is balling out rt now. Only reason he's barely rostered in redraft elagues is bc he hasn't scored a TD yet. I think it's hurns who Lee's emergence hurts most.
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
I definitely agree with you they have different skill sets, and they could both thrive, so it will be interesting to see if Lee can build on his current success, in which case maybe Hurns is the odd man out?
I also think Lee is talented, he has just been disappointing due to constant injury, no doubt many have written him off, and that is a time dynasty bargains can be found. If he could have come out a year earlier, his stock was much higher (speculative, possibly his sub-optimal 40 time would have still kept him out of the first round regardless?). As you alluded to, he wasn't drafted higher for nothing. I certainly wouldn't blow up my team to acquire him
, but in the one league I drafted him, holding him as imo there is a lot more upside than downside from here.
I also think Lee is talented, he has just been disappointing due to constant injury, no doubt many have written him off, and that is a time dynasty bargains can be found. If he could have come out a year earlier, his stock was much higher (speculative, possibly his sub-optimal 40 time would have still kept him out of the first round regardless?). As you alluded to, he wasn't drafted higher for nothing. I certainly wouldn't blow up my team to acquire him
, but in the one league I drafted him, holding him as imo there is a lot more upside than downside from here.
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renesauz
IBL Representative
Milkman
Footballguy
renesauz
IBL Representative
That's fine, because you'd have to overpay. Quitly added him in a few leagues earlier this year....even gave him his first start this week in one
Milkman
Footballguy
Well I won't be back in here to gloat. Good luck.That's fine, because you'd have to overpay. Quitly added him in a few leagues earlier this year....even gave him his first start this week in one
Landru
Footballguy
Let me call you out here for a lazy, misleading and overall worthless post.
Lee is bigger than Antonio Brown with a similar 40 time (edit: want to make it clear that I'm not saying he's AB, but rather that 6' 192lb with a 4.5 40 is plenty good enough to be a quality WR). His SPARQ was a solid 126.4. He had incredible production as a college sophomore (1700/14) but tailed off significantly as a junior (800/4) in his draft year. He's not a burner nor a guy with massive catch radius but he's still a WR with plus athleticism, strong college production, RAC ability and good draft pedigree.
Personally, I'm on the fence with the him but either offer some actual insight or don't waste people's time with banal generalities.
His NFL.com draft profile:
Marqise Lee
Strengths
Very good athletic ability. Is a nifty runner after the catch -- can navigate through traffic and create with the ball in his hands. Can shift into top gear and run by tacklers -- terrific acceleration and short-area burst. Fine route runner -- understands how to set up defensive backs and has an innate feel for coverage. Understands how to manipulate man and zone coverage and can create separation when he needs to uncover. Very good hand-eye coordination. Tracks the deep ball very well -- has a knack for running underneath it. Attacks the ball and plucks it out of the sky. Very good competitive, functional playing speed. Has game-breaking return ability -- exceptional vision and traffic burst.
Weaknesses
Average size and run strength. Does not break many tackles. Was slowed by nagging injuries, and body is not built to withstand a lot of punishment. Can do a better job securing the ball through traffic -- has shown a tendency to flag the ball. Long-term durability could become an issue.
Draft Projection
Round 1
Bottom Line
An extremely motivated, dynamic, playmaking receiver, Lee's junior season was plagued by shoulder, knee and leg injuries and a revolving door at head coach, where he cycled through three. Showed all the traits desired in a No. 1 receiver early in his career and has overcome a lot of adversity in his life to get to this point.
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zamboni
Footballguy
Just checked out Lee's targets, and he's had 6-8 for the last four games.
I'm not convinced that Lee is going to continue to make Robinson and Hurns lackluster going forward, but by the same token, there's no guarantee of pecking order for targets. It's not like Lee doesn't have talent either in addition to Hurns and Robinson.
I'm not convinced that Lee is going to continue to make Robinson and Hurns lackluster going forward, but by the same token, there's no guarantee of pecking order for targets. It's not like Lee doesn't have talent either in addition to Hurns and Robinson.
