Dynasty rookie draft almost complete (1 Viewer)

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Move to AC if you want but the pool is kinda slow right now:

1.01 Pimpin Ain't Easy McFadden, Darren OAK RB ® 6:08:25 p.m.

1.02 Ministry of Pain Mendenhall, Rashard PIT RB ® 10:00:11 p.m.

1.03 Team Legacy Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB ® 10:00:11 p.m.

1.04 Radballs Smith, Kevin DET RB ® 11:43:08 p.m.

1.05 Ministry of Pain Johnson, Chris TEN RB ® 11:50:20 p.m.

1.06 Duckboy Forte, Matt CHI RB ® 11:50:20 p.m.

1.07 Twilight Jones, Felix DAL RB ® 12:17:32 a.m.

1.08 ffweasel Rice, Ray BAL RB ® 12:54:16 a.m.

1.09 Bicycle Seat Sniffer Rodgers, Aaron GBP QB 12:54:16 a.m.

1.10 Capt. Hook Sweed, Limas PIT WR ® 12:59:30 a.m.

1.11 Family Matters Torain, Ryan DEN RB ® 8:52:35 a.m.

1.12 Jason Wood Thomas, Devin WAS WR ® 10:27:53 a.m.

2.01 ABrecher Ryan, Matt ATL QB ® 10:27:53 a.m.

2.02 Pimpin Ain't Easy Charles, Jamaal KCC RB ® 11:04:39 a.m.

2.03 Team Legacy Hardy, James BUF WR ® 1:20:31 p.m.

2.04 Radballs Thomas, Pierre NOS RB 12:28:48 p.m.

2.05 Team Legacy Keller, Dustin NYJ TE ® 12:29:19 p.m.

2.06 Duckboy Kelly, Malcolm WAS WR ® 12:29:19 p.m.

2.07 Twilight Jackson, DeSean PHI WR (R) 3:22:09 p.m.

2.08 ffweasel Avery, Donnie STL WR ® 10:22:56 p.m.

2.09 Bicycle Seat Sniffer Bennett, Earl CHI WR ® 10:26:40 p.m.

2.10 Capt. Hook Flacco, Joe BAL QB ® 10:26:40 p.m.

2.11 Family Matters Doucet, Early ARI WR ® 11:09:23 p.m.

2.12 Jason Wood Carlson, John SEA TE ® 6:41:37 a.m.

3.01 Ministry of Pain Brohm, Brian GBP QB ® 10:22:36 a.m.

3.02 Pimpin Ain't Easy Slaton, Steve HOU RB ® 10:38:39 a.m.

3.03 Team Legacy Nelson, Jordy GBP WR (R) 4:34:07 p.m.

3.04 Radballs Henne, Chad MIA QB ® 4:34:07 p.m.

3.05 ABrecher Williams, Reggie JAC WR 4:34:07 p.m.

3.06 Duckboy Simpson, Jerome CIN WR ® 4:34:07 p.m.

3.07 Twilight Boss, Kevin NYG TE 4:48:54 p.m.

3.08 ffweasel Manningham, Mario NYG WR ® 8:07:01 p.m.

3.09 Bicycle Seat Sniffer Morris, Sammy NEP RB 8:07:01 p.m.

3.10 Capt. Hook Jackson, Fred BUF RB 8:07:01 p.m.

3.11 Family Matters Utecht, Ben CIN TE 10:04:30 a.m.

3.12 Jason Wood Hester, Jacob SDC RB ® 1:07:40 p.m.

.01 37. Ministry of Pain Jackson, Chad NEP WR Thu Jun 19 2:29:09 p.m. ET 2008 Too much upside for the 4.01...and there's an awful lot of nice picks still available.

4.02 38. Pimpin Ain't Easy Bears, Chicago CHI Def Thu Jun 19 2:51:20 p.m. ET 2008

4.03 39. Team Legacy Caldwell, Andre CIN WR ® Thu Jun 19 2:51:20 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

4.04 40. Radballs Timer Expired Fri Jun 20 11:00:03 a.m. ET 2008 Timer Expired

4.05 41. ABrecher Perry, Chris CIN RB Fri Jun 20 11:00:03 a.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

4.06 42. Duckboy Jackson, Darrell DEN WR Fri Jun 20 11:00:03 a.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

4.07 43. Twilight Hightower, Tim ARI RB (R) Fri Jun 20 11:00:03 a.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

4.08 44. ffweasel Royal, Eddie DEN WR ® Fri Jun 20 12:57:56 p.m. ET 2008

4.09 45. Bicycle Seat Sniffer Fasano, Anthony MIA TE Fri Jun 20 1:09:20 p.m. ET 2008

4.10 46. Capt. Hook Booty, John David MIN QB ® Fri Jun 20 2:00:46 p.m. ET 2008 I am not a Tavaris Jackson fan (is anybody?) and I doubt the Vikings traded up to get Booty without a reason...that said he probably won't help this year, but...

4.11 47. Capt. Hook Parmele, Jalen MIA RB ® Fri Jun 20 2:02:17 p.m. ET 2008

4.12 48. Jason Wood David Patten NO WR

 

[FUBAR]

Forte dropping to 6 is a surprise.

 

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[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Forte dropping to 6 is a surprise.

said that when it happened but it is a PPR league so Cjohnson does have some value.

 

[FUBAR]

Forte dropping to 6 is a surprise.

said that when it happened but it is a PPR league so Cjohnson does have some value.

Sure, can't argue too much, but I'd take him over Smith. Some have said they'd take him #3, one person I talked to said he'd take him #2. (I disagree, but can see him being the 2nd best player in this draft)

 

[biggamer3]

Wow Forte shoud AT LEAST go 5

C Johnson is a reach at 5

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Forte dropping to 6 is a surprise.

said that when it happened but it is a PPR league so Cjohnson does have some value.

Sure, can't argue too much, but I'd take him over Smith. Some have said they'd take him #3, one person I talked to said he'd take him #2. (I disagree, but can see him being the 2nd best player in this draft)

that seem like overvaluing him to me. His situation isnt that great in Chi and personally I'd rather draft Stewart and Mendenhall. Johnson/KSMith/Forte is a very good debate and part of the reason I started the thread.Forte at 6 seems like a steal.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Wow Forte shoud AT LEAST go 5C Johnson is a reach at 5

he is a first round pick, that will be used in passing game extensively. Not a reach at all

 

[benbadman]

Wow Forte shoud AT LEAST go 5C Johnson is a reach at 5

he is a first round pick, that will be used in passing game extensively. Not a reach at all

What's the website for this league?I'm intersted in seeing the rosters overall.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Wow Forte shoud AT LEAST go 5

C Johnson is a reach at 5

he is a first round pick, that will be used in passing game extensively. Not a reach at all

What's the website for this league?I'm intersted in seeing the rosters overall.

it's called the FIX over at MFLhttp://www34.myfantasyleague.com/2008/home/24164

 

[munchkin]

I was curious to see where Rodgers would fall as he will be available in our R/FA draft as well. Also Limas Sweed as the first receiver off the board is interesting too.

 

[EBF]

I like these picks:

1.01 Pimpin Ain't Easy McFadden, Darren OAK RB ® 6:08:25 p.m.

1.02 Ministry of Pain Mendenhall, Rashard PIT RB ® 10:00:11 p.m.

1.03 Team Legacy Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB ® 10:00:11 p.m.

1.06 Duckboy Forte, Matt CHI RB ® 11:50:20 p.m.

1.07 Twilight Jones, Felix DAL RB ® 12:17:32 a.m.

1.08 ffweasel Rice, Ray BAL RB ® 12:54:16 a.m.

1.12 Jason Wood Thomas, Devin WAS WR ® 10:27:53 a.m.

2.05 Team Legacy Keller, Dustin NYJ TE ® 12:29:19 p.m.

2.06 Duckboy Kelly, Malcolm WAS WR ® 12:29:19 p.m.

2.10 Capt. Hook Flacco, Joe BAL QB ® 10:26:40 p.m.

3.03 Team Legacy Nelson, Jordy GBP WR (R) 4:34:07 p.m.

3.05 ABrecher Williams, Reggie JAC WR 4:34:07 p.m.

My favorite picks are probably Rice at 1.08, Keller at 2.05, and Nelson at 3.03.I don't like these picks:

1.05 Ministry of Pain Johnson, Chris TEN RB ® 11:50:20 p.m.

1.10 Capt. Hook Sweed, Limas PIT WR ® 12:59:30 a.m.

1.11 Family Matters Torain, Ryan DEN RB ® 8:52:35 a.m.

2.02 Pimpin Ain't Easy Charles, Jamaal KCC RB ® 11:04:39 a.m.

2.04 Radballs Thomas, Pierre NOS RB 12:28:48 p.m.

2.11 Family Matters Doucet, Early ARI WR ® 11:09:23 p.m.

2.12 Jason Wood Carlson, John SEA TE ® 6:41:37 a.m.

3.02 Pimpin Ain't Easy Slaton, Steve HOU RB ® 10:38:39 a.m.

3.07 Twilight Boss, Kevin NYG TE 4:48:54 p.m.

3.08 ffweasel Manningham, Mario NYG WR ® 8:07:01 p.m.

3.09 Bicycle Seat Sniffer Morris, Sammy NEP RB 8:07:01 p.m.

3.11 Family Matters Utecht, Ben CIN TE 10:04:30 a.m.

3.12 Jason Wood Hester, Jacob SDC RB ® 1:07:40 p.m.

My least favorite pick is probably Torain at 1.11. Reeeaaach. Tough league though. Lots of familiar faces.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I like these picks:

1.01 Pimpin Ain't Easy McFadden, Darren OAK RB ® 6:08:25 p.m.

1.02 Ministry of Pain Mendenhall, Rashard PIT RB ® 10:00:11 p.m.

1.03 Team Legacy Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB ® 10:00:11 p.m.

1.06 Duckboy Forte, Matt CHI RB ® 11:50:20 p.m.

1.07 Twilight Jones, Felix DAL RB ® 12:17:32 a.m.

1.08 ffweasel Rice, Ray BAL RB ® 12:54:16 a.m.

1.12 Jason Wood Thomas, Devin WAS WR ® 10:27:53 a.m.

2.05 Team Legacy Keller, Dustin NYJ TE ® 12:29:19 p.m.

2.06 Duckboy Kelly, Malcolm WAS WR ® 12:29:19 p.m.

2.10 Capt. Hook Flacco, Joe BAL QB ® 10:26:40 p.m.

3.03 Team Legacy Nelson, Jordy GBP WR (R) 4:34:07 p.m.

3.05 ABrecher Williams, Reggie JAC WR 4:34:07 p.m.

My favorite picks are probably Rice at 1.08, Keller at 2.05, and Nelson at 3.03.I don't like these picks:

1.05 Ministry of Pain Johnson, Chris TEN RB ® 11:50:20 p.m.

1.10 Capt. Hook Sweed, Limas PIT WR ® 12:59:30 a.m.

1.11 Family Matters Torain, Ryan DEN RB ® 8:52:35 a.m.

2.02 Pimpin Ain't Easy Charles, Jamaal KCC RB ® 11:04:39 a.m.

2.04 Radballs Thomas, Pierre NOS RB 12:28:48 p.m.

2.11 Family Matters Doucet, Early ARI WR ® 11:09:23 p.m.

2.12 Jason Wood Carlson, John SEA TE ® 6:41:37 a.m.

3.02 Pimpin Ain't Easy Slaton, Steve HOU RB ® 10:38:39 a.m.

3.07 Twilight Boss, Kevin NYG TE 4:48:54 p.m.

3.08 ffweasel Manningham, Mario NYG WR ® 8:07:01 p.m.

3.09 Bicycle Seat Sniffer Morris, Sammy NEP RB 8:07:01 p.m.

3.11 Family Matters Utecht, Ben CIN TE 10:04:30 a.m.

3.12 Jason Wood Hester, Jacob SDC RB ® 1:07:40 p.m.

My least favorite pick is probably Torain at 1.11. Reeeaaach. Tough league though. Lots of familiar faces.

EBF, can you tell me why you dont like Mario M? will it be lack of early on the field action. I missed him by one pick and I wanted him badly, decided to go with a RB that I thought might produce some this season. Didnt like alot of the rookies available at that point.

 

[EBF]

EBF, can you tell me why you dont like Mario M? will it be lack of early on the field action. I missed him by one pick and I wanted him badly, decided to go with a RB that I thought might produce some this season. Didnt like alot of the rookies available at that point.

He's an overachiever who lacks the size and speed you look for in a top flight NFL WR. On paper he might look similar to Santonio Holmes and Isaac Bruce, but I don't see the same vertical speed and overall mobility. I see a marginal physical specimen who was able to succeed in college because he had a lot of innate WR skills. Put him in the NFL against superior DB's and I think he'll struggle. He won't overpower anyone and he doesn't have the speed to run away from people. He's also a character risk with work ethic/intelligence concerns. There are a couple of receivers still on the board that I would much rather have on my FF team.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

EBF, can you tell me why you dont like Mario M? will it be lack of early on the field action. I missed him by one pick and I wanted him badly, decided to go with a RB that I thought might produce some this season. Didnt like alot of the rookies available at that point.

He's an overachiever who lacks the size and speed you look for in a top flight NFL WR. On paper he might look similar to Santonio Holmes and Isaac Bruce, but I don't see the same vertical speed and overall mobility. I see a marginal physical specimen who was able to succeed in college because he had a lot of innate WR skills. Put him in the NFL against superior DB's and I think he'll struggle. He won't overpower anyone and he doesn't have the speed to run away from people. He's also a character risk with work ethic/intelligence concerns. There are a couple of receivers still on the board that I would much rather have on my FF team.

thanks for the response, what do you think of my Earl Bennett pick? Aaron Rogers?

 

[EBF]

EBF, can you tell me why you dont like Mario M? will it be lack of early on the field action. I missed him by one pick and I wanted him badly, decided to go with a RB that I thought might produce some this season. Didnt like alot of the rookies available at that point.

He's an overachiever who lacks the size and speed you look for in a top flight NFL WR. On paper he might look similar to Santonio Holmes and Isaac Bruce, but I don't see the same vertical speed and overall mobility. I see a marginal physical specimen who was able to succeed in college because he had a lot of innate WR skills. Put him in the NFL against superior DB's and I think he'll struggle. He won't overpower anyone and he doesn't have the speed to run away from people. He's also a character risk with work ethic/intelligence concerns. There are a couple of receivers still on the board that I would much rather have on my FF team.

thanks for the response, what do you think of my Earl Bennett pick? Aaron Rogers?

I've had a hard time getting excited about Bennett despite the fact that some pretty solid analysts are high on him. To me he's just not a special talent. He can be a decent possession guy and work the middle of the field, but he's not a great athlete and I don't see the upside that I like in my FF receivers. I like the Rodgers pick. He was pretty impressive at times in college and the Packers are a friendly offense that could allow him to immediately start producing top 10-15 numbers. He's not a sure thing, but I'd rather have him than Ryan and I think he was a fair gamble at that draft slot.

 

[Lash]

Bennett is a very nice WR, if he'd have gone nearly anywhere but CHI i'd have had him as WR1 in this class

not a great athlete? i saw him in person a few times and he always beat SEC double teams, even on obvious 3rd and 12's

his 40 time is fast and his game speed is even faster IMO, YAC yardage is decent

a smidge too short is the only weakness that i see for him as an individual with being a Bear the obvious drawback

 

[Couch Potato]

I'll chime in on Manningham. He's on my 'avoid until someone else drafts him' list. Doper in college (NTTAWWT - unless you have NFL aspirations), a proven liar concerning that fact, comes off as a complete jerk and moron in interviews, a Wonderlic score of 6... no thanks. This guy has BAD NEWS written all over him, and I expect that he'll completely bust or get into suspension trouble in the next 2-3 years.

I realize that he wasn't taken until 3.08, but to me any WR taken in the first four rounds of the NFL draft would be a better choice.

Yeah, I'm being hard on the guy and others aren't going to agree with my view, but I want nothing to do with him.

 

[EBF]

Bennett is a very nice WR, if he'd have gone nearly anywhere but CHI i'd have had him as WR1 in this classnot a great athlete? i saw him in person a few times and he always beat SEC double teams, even on obvious 3rd and 12'shis 40 time is fast and his game speed is even faster IMO, YAC yardage is decenta smidge too short is the only weakness that i see for him as an individual with being a Bear the obvious drawback

Great athlete is a relative term. He may have thrived in the SEC, but he's not Anquan Boldin. I see him as roughly comparable to someone like James Jones or Jerricho Cotchery: a good possession WR lacking the physical gifts to dominate at the pro level. So while I think he has a high floor, I also think some of the other receivers available in the same range have a better chance of being difference makers in FF leagues.However, I didn't single out the Bennett selection as a bad pick. I think he generally gets drafted about where he should.

 

[Couch Potato]

I just noticed that Chad Jackson NE was taken at 4.01 (5 picks later than Manningham BTW).

What a steal. Long term, he'll end up better than MOST of the rookie WRs taken ahead of him in this draft IMO.

 

[Jersey35]

FWIW, I love the Rodgers pick at 1.09. Far better opportunity and we've got more indication that he will succeed than we do any rookie (none). I think he's a far better choice at that spot than anyone below him - and a better pick than many who went before too.

 

[Captain Hook]

FWIW, I love the Rodgers pick at 1.09. Far better opportunity and we've got more indication that he will succeed than we do any rookie (none). I think he's a far better choice at that spot than anyone below him - and a better pick than many who went before too.

Have to agree with that - sadly I had him queued up, but I drafted at.................... 1.10

 

[Captain Hook]

I don't like these picks:

1.05 Ministry of Pain Johnson, Chris TEN RB ® 11:50:20 p.m.

1.10 Capt. Hook Sweed, Limas PIT WR ® 12:59:30 a.m.

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EBF - tell me what you don't like about Sweed?And which receiver you would take before him? (for a dynasty team where I really don't need a contribution this year)

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I guess a few things need to said first. Those with the highest picks actually got them by winning the Consolation/Toilet Bowl...the bottom 6 must compete for the #1 pick...so if your team really blows, it might not get you much better than a #6 spot in the rookie drafts...hard to rebuild. My team last season was not awful but I got buzzsawed a couple of weeks and then ran over everyone in the Toilet Bowl.

I had the 1.01 and traded down 1 spot. I really thought that the offers would come pouring in for the pick, but in the end no one stepped up to take McFadden so I did the only thing I could and that was add at least a 25-35 range WR which I think I might have with Porter, and also add a pick which I did in adding 2009 rookie pick. I slid down 1 spot, thought about gtrading down further but could not and so I settled on Mendenhal. I have MB III, JLewis, DWill, ABradshaw, and W Dunn so I can wait on mendy to develop or I can trade him for some proven talent.

The player I really wanted was Chris Johnson...I watched the draft start to unfold and it seemed I was not going to be able to work a trade for the #6 spot...however ABrecher at the #5 was hurting for QB and I decided to make my move, package up the 2.01 and a QB to move up and grab the player I want. I had Big Ben(not trading), and Leinart plus Schaub...I wanted to trade Leinart because I felt like Schaub and then adding Rosenfels in a best ball league, good to go at QB this year with Big Ben...of course ABrecher wanted Schaub...I himmed and I hawed, and I pulled the GD trigger as fast as I could so I could lock up Chris Johnson.

Johnson to me is going to be what owners are looking for from here on out. The COP(change of pace) RB is going to be value in a lot of leagues. MJD is cashing in on it and I see a fast RB like CJ who caught a lot of balls in college and will make the biggest impact out of the backfield doing a lot of the same things. Johnson had a lot of college games where he caught 5/80, 5/139/TD...this excited me as I felt like he could be a guy with a QB that is a little erratic to give them a great safety valve. The Pats basically are taking running plays away from Maroney when they throw in the slot to Wes Welker, and I think other teams are looking for a player they can use and get in open space and can move the ball. The more I watched of Johnson, the more I read up on Johnson, the more I studied him...the more he was a must guy for me in the draft. I almost took him at the 1.02...and those that are saying he is a reach at the 1.05...based on what? Forte being the guy because Benson is gone? I don't think so, odds are he could flop and Chicago is going to the podium next season to grab an elite RB...I just like the role that CJ is going to play on that team. He isn't going to be touching it 20 time a game on the ground but I expect him to have 10-15 plays including pass plays designed to get him into open space. In a best ball format, I think his value is even higher.

3.01: Brian Brohm...again I debated a lot about who to take. I looked at Steve SLaton a long long time but I just got rid of a QB and to find value like Brohm there at the 3.01...I was definitely going to take it. I would have taken Flacco had he dropped but Brohm is in a very good situation and I think owners just simply have to wait to see the return there. Am I in the market for Aaron Rodgers...sure, but I don't think BSS drafted him at the 1.09 to just trade him. I do think he made a mistake not taking Brohm at the 2.09...in best ball he would have had the GB passing game locked up for the next 5 years with no worries. Now he has to endure the Aaron Rodgers staying healthy routine...and that so far has not been easy.

4.01: Chad Jackson...again I see a lot of potential. Yudkin probably just fell out of his chair that I grabbed him this late. I like Gaffney but that is the only thing standing in his way and about 50+ rec, 700-800 yds, and 5-6 TD...I'll gladly take CJax over just about any other rookie WR to come out this season. his situation is very tempting and if something were to happen to Moss or Welker, he would see a lot of balls.

Nice thread BSS, guess I can do a full blown write up on all 12 teams in here.

 

[valhallan]

Roster size? I'm guessing around 20 based on the free agents..

ETA: Nevermind, just saw the site link

 

[EBF]

I don't like these picks:

1.05 Ministry of Pain Johnson, Chris TEN RB ® 11:50:20 p.m.

1.10 Capt. Hook Sweed, Limas PIT WR ® 12:59:30 a.m.

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EBF - tell me what you don't like about Sweed?And which receiver you would take before him? (for a dynasty team where I really don't need a contribution this year)

I don't hate Sweed. He has great jump ball skills and athletic ability. There are times when he reminds me of a taller Reggie Wayne. They have a similar build and playing style. I also love the fact that he went to the Steelers. There's an opportunity for him to eventually emerge as a starter in a productive offense. As far as negatives, I think he has some of the same problems a lot of taller receivers have. Namely, he's not a great route runner and he might struggle to separate on short and underneath routes. His speed is good, but not exceptional and he doesn't have the power of a lot of good taller receivers (Colston, TO, etc). He's somewhat similar to Sidney Rice, but Rice was more productive in college and is a better athlete IMO. I see Sweed falling somewhere in the middle on a spectrum from Michael Jenkins to Plaxico Burress. The reason I singled out the pick as a bad selection is because Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly were still on the board. I like those guys more than Sweed.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I don't like these picks:

1.05 Ministry of Pain Johnson, Chris TEN RB ® 11:50:20 p.m.

Tough league though. Lots of familiar faces.

What is it you dislike about Chris Johnson? I already stated why I took him but I respect your POV EBF and would like to hear some real analysis. If it is his size, please understand I didn't draft him expecting him to run between the tackles, in fact I think he might get less than 10 carries a game...but I do think he will catch a lot of balls and break some for long TD...4.2 speed is hard to just pass up when NFL teams can creat a little space. I fully expect the Titans to involve him heavily in the passing game.

 

[EBF]

Johnson to me is going to be what owners are looking for from here on out. The COP(change of pace) RB is going to be value in a lot of leagues. MJD is cashing in on it and I see a fast RB like CJ who caught a lot of balls in college and will make the biggest impact out of the backfield doing a lot of the same things. Johnson had a lot of college games where he caught 5/80, 5/139/TD...this excited me as I felt like he could be a guy with a QB that is a little erratic to give them a great safety valve. The Pats basically are taking running plays away from Maroney when they throw in the slot to Wes Welker, and I think other teams are looking for a player they can use and get in open space and can move the ball. The more I watched of Johnson, the more I read up on Johnson, the more I studied him...the more he was a must guy for me in the draft. I almost took him at the 1.02...and those that are saying he is a reach at the 1.05...based on what? Forte being the guy because Benson is gone? I don't think so, odds are he could flop and Chicago is going to the podium next season to grab an elite RB...I just like the role that CJ is going to play on that team. He isn't going to be touching it 20 time a game on the ground but I expect him to have 10-15 plays including pass plays designed to get him into open space. In a best ball format, I think his value is even higher.

I'm not sure if your league is PPR or not. If it is, then I don't have a problem with the Chris Johnson pick. He's going to catch some passes, but I don't see him ever becoming a team's workhorse back. People often compare him to MJD and Westbrook. I think those are weak comparisons. He doesn't have the wide body or the lower body strength of those guys. He's built slight. He can make some ridiculous plays from time to time, but there's also a bit of a spaz quality to his playing style and he takes some pretty big hits. I doubt he could hold up under full time duty. Ultimately, I think he's a true change of pace back. He brings an explosive speed element that will lead to a handful of big plays. Would I want to count on him every week? No. His team is garbage and his workload won't be consistent in non-PPR. I would've rather had Felix Jones or Ray Rice if this is a non-PPR. In a PPR, it's close between those three. I think you can make a case for any of them. I probably like Rice's upside the most, but he might be the slowest to impact whereas the other two could be RB2-RB3 types immediately.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I just noticed that Chad Jackson NE was taken at 4.01 (5 picks later than Manningham BTW). What a steal. Long term, he'll end up better than MOST of the rookie WRs taken ahead of him in this draft IMO.

Thank you CP

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Johnson to me is going to be what owners are looking for from here on out. The COP(change of pace) RB is going to be value in a lot of leagues. MJD is cashing in on it and I see a fast RB like CJ who caught a lot of balls in college and will make the biggest impact out of the backfield doing a lot of the same things. Johnson had a lot of college games where he caught 5/80, 5/139/TD...this excited me as I felt like he could be a guy with a QB that is a little erratic to give them a great safety valve. The Pats basically are taking running plays away from Maroney when they throw in the slot to Wes Welker, and I think other teams are looking for a player they can use and get in open space and can move the ball. The more I watched of Johnson, the more I read up on Johnson, the more I studied him...the more he was a must guy for me in the draft. I almost took him at the 1.02...and those that are saying he is a reach at the 1.05...based on what? Forte being the guy because Benson is gone? I don't think so, odds are he could flop and Chicago is going to the podium next season to grab an elite RB...I just like the role that CJ is going to play on that team. He isn't going to be touching it 20 time a game on the ground but I expect him to have 10-15 plays including pass plays designed to get him into open space. In a best ball format, I think his value is even higher.

I'm not sure if your league is PPR or not. If it is, then I don't have a problem with the Chris Johnson pick. He's going to catch some passes, but I don't see him ever becoming a team's workhorse back. People often compare him to MJD and Westbrook. I think those are weak comparisons. He doesn't have the wide body or the lower body strength of those guys. He's built slight. He can make some ridiculous plays from time to time, but there's also a bit of a spaz quality to his playing style and he takes some pretty big hits. I doubt he could hold up under full time duty. Ultimately, I think he's a true change of pace back. He brings an explosive speed element that will lead to a handful of big plays. Would I want to count on him every week? No. His team is garbage and his workload won't be consistent in non-PPR. I would've rather had Felix Jones or Ray Rice if this is a non-PPR. In a PPR, it's close between those three. I think you can make a case for any of them. I probably like Rice's upside the most, but he might be the slowest to impact whereas the other two could be RB2-RB3 types immediately.

Exactly...I am trying to put together a run to make the playoffs this season. Johnson will see time immediately. What will Felix Jones role be? Ray Rice I absolutely love too but he has McGahee in fornt of him and Cam Cameron does not use a 2 back approach much. Assume for the next 2 years you will see very little return on Rice...RB have a short shelf life too. I have MBIII so Felix was not really a guy I was looking for...also have TO on my team so I have the best part of the passing and running game on Dallas already.And yes, he is a COP back that will be able to change games.

 

[Burning Sensation]

What i would like to know is how the heck did Wood win the title last year with that team?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

What i would like to know is how the heck did Wood win the title last year with that team?

It was another FBG staff's team, and we play 2 PPR TE, so likely 3 of those TE are putting up points every week. Add in LT, a trio of QB to roll with, a couple of role players...believe me, the rest of us are coming at Wood very fast in this league. There will be no repeat.

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

What i would like to know is how the heck did Wood win the title last year with that team?

His was the highest scoring team in the league by a fair margin....The championship lineup:Warner, Kurt ARI QB 36.05 Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB 19.40 Watson, Kenny CIN RB 22.00 Mason, Derrick BAL WR 20.80 Toomer, Amani NYG WR 14.90 Crumpler, Alge ATL TE 11.20 Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE 33.70 Witten, Jason DAL TE 17.30 Gostkowski, Stephen NEP PK 4.00 Titans, Tennessee TEN Def 18.00 Starter Total: 197.35

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I just noticed that Chad Jackson NE was taken at 4.01 (5 picks later than Manningham BTW). What a steal. Long term, he'll end up better than MOST of the rookie WRs taken ahead of him in this draft IMO.

seriously based on what? Brady being his QB alone? He's currently #4 on the depth cart at best and I dont see him starting for years.

 

[Team Legacy]

Draft Recap:

Team going in:

QB - Best 1/2 punch in the league

Peyton Manning

Derek Anderson

Brady Quinn

Brody Croyle

RB - Weak .. needs major help

MJD

Brandon Jacobs

Lamont Jordan

Tatum Bell

Kenny Irons

WR - Deep and Young, perfect for this format - could use another impact player

Steve Smith

Roddy White

Jericho Cotchery

Sidney Rice

Bernard Berrian

Nate Burleson

Ted Ginn Jr.

TE - TERRIBLE, my downfall

Randy McMichael

Marcedes Lewis

PK / DST - Good enough for me

Josh Brown and Chargers DST

Okay, so this team was a playoff team 2 years ago and failed to make it this past year as the 7th highest scoring team. Why?

QB - 3rd best combination behind only PAE (Brady/Clemens) and FM (Romo, Bulger, Rosenfels). QB is NOT the problem.

HB - #10 group. Here's my problem. I have no depth. I MUST address this in the draft. Jordan started 10 games for me last year and I won't be able to count on that this year.

WR - #1. Top wide receiver set in the league scoring 1031 points. Cotchery started 12 games for me last season, followed by Berrian at 10, Steve Smith and Burleson at 9, Roddy at 8, and Reggie Brown 6. Depth is key in this format and SS really underperformed.

TE - #10 group. Again, an area of major weakness. At 2PPR it's too important a position to overlook.

PK - #5 - Brown should continue in

DST - #3 - Chargers by themselves hold their own.

Here was my draft:

1.3 - Jonathan Stewart. - Well, I wanted Mendenhall, but either one was fine, just not McFadden. Should be a big time contributor to my RB corps immediately.

In discussions with MOP for Mendenhall, but he wants Steve Smith. Negotiations continue...

In discussions with Radballs, (who needs WR help badly), I have a potential trade in the works to land Kevin Smith by giving up Cotchery, although I'd rather keep him. Talks move to Roddy White. He wants more so I throw in Ted Ginn Jr, while giving me back a favorite of mine, Micheal Bush. HE ACCEPTS! I now own Kevin Smith, RB DET.

2.3 - James Hardy. - At 2.2, PAE threatened to take Keller if I didn't trade, knowing I love the Jets and need help at the position. I held pat and he passed. I Wanted Devin Thomas here but Hardy will do. Since I gave up WR depth, I figured it would be best to add back something to the #1 group here and Hardy has good upside.

2.5 - Dustin Keller. - I acquired this pick thru a trade last year that sent me Jacobs, Quinn and this pick for McNabb and Mike Bell. The trade definitely worked out in my favor. This pick gives me some much needed Tight End help. He's not a PPR machine, but he's an upgrade to what I have. I'll still strive to address this position thru trades.

3.3 - Jordy Nelson. - Let me say it now. I LOVE JORDY! What a complete player he is. I think Jordy will be a household name in a matter of time. I would have taken Slaton at this spot simply to continue to aide my thin RB corps, but since he's the last one I'd consider, I'll go with ol Jordy.

4.3 - Andre Caldwell. - Yes, another receiver. In this league, you can go 4 wide, and I think he presents good upside and I personally rank him higher than Simpson (until his brain catches up to his body) with questions surrounding both Chad and Housh after this season. The Bengals surely won't let them both get away will they?

So, here's my team AFTER the draft -

QB

Peyton Manning

Derek Anderson

Brady Quinn

Brody Croyle

No real reason to do anything here.

RB

MJD

Brandon Jacobs

Jonathan Stewart

Kevin Smith

Michael Bush

Lamont Jordan

Tatum Bell

Kenny Irons

Added some big time help to the position but still likely a year away from a chance at top placement.

WR

Steve Smith

Jericho Cotchery

Sidney Rice

Bernard Berrian

Nate Burleson

James Hardy

Jordy Nelson

Andre Caldwell

Dealt Roddy away. (Sell high right?) and Ginn (who knows?), but added an awesome trio of rookies who coupled with the emergence of Sidney Rice and Burleson and the return of Delhomme should help keep the position near or at the top.

TE

Dustin Keller

Randy McMichael

Marcedes Lewis

Need to do more, but adding Keller is a good start.

PK / DST

Josh Brown and Chargers DST

Stable top performers. I'd rather not have more than 1 at each position, but might be forced to acquire to cover for byes.

There it is. Team Legacy trying to return to the playoffs. Thoughts welcome!

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

I just noticed that Chad Jackson NE was taken at 4.01 (5 picks later than Manningham BTW). What a steal. Long term, he'll end up better than MOST of the rookie WRs taken ahead of him in this draft IMO.

Interesting draft. I'm not high on Jackson though. Even if he works through the injury I've heard he has big time issues grasping the offense. There are a lot of question marks in this rookie WR pool though so he may have as decent a shot as any of them. Too hard to predict now.

 

[EBF]

2.5 - Dustin Keller. - I acquired this pick thru a trade last year that sent me Jacobs, Quinn and this pick for McNabb and Mike Bell. The trade definitely worked out in my favor. This pick gives me some much needed Tight End help. He's not a PPR machine, but he's an upgrade to what I have. I'll still strive to address this position thru trades.

3.3 - Jordy Nelson. - Let me say it now. I LOVE JORDY! What a complete player he is. I think Jordy will be a household name in a matter of time. I would have taken Slaton at this spot simply to continue to aide my thin RB corps, but since he's the last one I'd consider, I'll go with ol Jordy.

4.3 - Andre Caldwell. - Yes, another receiver. In this league, you can go 4 wide, and I think he presents good upside and I personally rank him higher than Simpson (until his brain catches up to his body) with questions surrounding both Chad and Housh after this season. The Bengals surely won't let them both get away will they?

Very nice picks. Keller at 2.05 in a 2 PPR league is a great pick. Maybe the best pick in the whole draft. People forget that he was the only receiver drafted in the first round. He's one of the safer players in this draft. To get him in the mid 2nd in this format was grand theft. Check out this video, especially the last play:
Beast! I think he's a top 6-10 player in your format.

I love the value of Nelson and Caldwell. I have those guys as top 5-6 receivers in this class. Nelson comes with the Ted Thompson seal of approval. He was the top WR on Green Bay's board. I also like Caldwell more than Simpson. He's got a sturdy build and lots of athletic ability. I think he's the best bet to replace Housh/Chad of anyone on the Bengals right now.

 

[Couch Potato]

I just noticed that Chad Jackson NE was taken at 4.01 (5 picks later than Manningham BTW). What a steal. Long term, he'll end up better than MOST of the rookie WRs taken ahead of him in this draft IMO.

seriously based on what? Brady being his QB alone? He's currently #4 on the depth cart at best and I dont see him starting for years.

Jackson is a gifted WR who hasn't had production yet, but will later this year. I'm not concerned with the June depth chart, or even the Sept depth chart, if I'm in a dynasty draft and looking long term. "Depth chart" thinking with young players will kill you.Jackson was the 2nd WR taken in the 2006 draft as the 36th pick overall. By comparison, Avery STL was the 1st WR taken as the 33rd overall this year. It's not like we're talking about low potential talent here. Jackson started very slowly in his rookie year, as any rookie WR would in the NE offense which is timing-critical. Late in the year he was more involved, but in the AFC championship game he tore his ACL. Because he tore it so late in the year, he was on PUP until November 2007, and by that time it was too late for him to make any impact since the team was on a record setting pace and there was no reason to change things. An offense that is highly dependent on timing and is running that well already, with the WRs knowing just where to be and having the QB's confidence, doesn't allow for someone to just show up and be useful without reps with the QB in training camp, preseason games, and 8 regular season games. So Jackson was again a non-factor. That doesn't mean his talent has magically disappeared. He just turned 23 in March. So we write him off already, preferring 3rd round 2008 rookies who still have a learning curve at least as big ahead of them? Not smart. Gaffney was signed to a one-year contract. I believe he's there to keep the seat warm for Jackson until he's assimilated into the offense, and that process has begun in OTAs where Jackson was reportedly very impressive. Since Welker was not in attendance, Jackson started out wide while Gaffney filled Welker's slot role. Gaffney is a pedestrian WR who will be the 4th WR once Jackson is fully ready to start, once he has his timing and the confidence of Brady. He's simply a better talent than Gaffney. Gaffney may well begin the season starting, but Jackson will replace him at some point this year. I couldn't care less about the depth chart right now. This is a dynasty league, and you can't think about what is; you have to think about what will come to pass over the next several years. Jackson at 4.01 was a steal.

 

[Team Legacy]

I just noticed that Chad Jackson NE was taken at 4.01 (5 picks later than Manningham BTW).

What a steal. Long term, he'll end up better than MOST of the rookie WRs taken ahead of him in this draft IMO.

seriously based on what? Brady being his QB alone? He's currently #4 on the depth cart at best and I dont see him starting for years.

Jackson is a gifted WR who hasn't had production yet, but will later this year. I'm not concerned with the June depth chart, or even the Sept depth chart, if I'm in a dynasty draft and looking long term. "Depth chart" thinking with young players will kill you.Jackson was the 2nd WR taken in the 2006 draft as the 36th pick overall. By comparison, Avery STL was the 1st WR taken as the 33rd overall this year. It's not like we're talking about low potential talent here. Jackson started very slowly in his rookie year, as any rookie WR would in the NE offense which is timing-critical. Late in the year he was more involved, but in the AFC championship game he tore his ACL.

Because he tore it so late in the year, he was on PUP until November 2007, and by that time it was too late for him to make any impact since the team was on a record setting pace and there was no reason to change things. An offense that is highly dependent on timing and is running that well already, with the WRs knowing just where to be and having the QB's confidence, doesn't allow for someone to just show up and be useful without reps with the QB in training camp, preseason games, and 8 regular season games. So Jackson was again a non-factor.

That doesn't mean his talent has magically disappeared. He just turned 23 in March. So we write him off already, preferring 3rd round 2008 rookies who still have a learning curve at least as big ahead of them? Not smart. Gaffney was signed to a one-year contract. I believe he's there to keep the seat warm for Jackson until he's assimilated into the offense, and that process has begun in OTAs where Jackson was reportedly very impressive. Since Welker was not in attendance, Jackson started out wide while Gaffney filled Welker's slot role. Gaffney is a pedestrian WR who will be the 4th WR once Jackson is fully ready to start, once he has his timing and the confidence of Brady. He's simply a better talent than Gaffney. Gaffney may well begin the season starting, but Jackson will replace him at some point this year. I couldn't care less about the depth chart right now. This is a dynasty league, and you can't think about what is; you have to think about what will come to pass over the next several years. Jackson at 4.01 was a steal.

Interesting that you feel this way after seeing him fall to the 16th and 18th rounds in the recent HA3 draft. Many OTHER rookies were chosen ahead of him there as well, and honestly, I don't get the love all of a sudden. He has the physical tools, but many receivers have busted with the brawn and not the brains. Until he proves he can keep up with Brady and Belichek's mindful offense, I'd prefer to take fliers on others, specifically Jordy and Caldwell.

 

[Team Legacy]

Johnson to me is going to be what owners are looking for from here on out. The COP(change of pace) RB is going to be value in a lot of leagues. MJD is cashing in on it and I see a fast RB like CJ who caught a lot of balls in college and will make the biggest impact out of the backfield doing a lot of the same things. Johnson had a lot of college games where he caught 5/80, 5/139/TD...this excited me as I felt like he could be a guy with a QB that is a little erratic to give them a great safety valve. The Pats basically are taking running plays away from Maroney when they throw in the slot to Wes Welker, and I think other teams are looking for a player they can use and get in open space and can move the ball. The more I watched of Johnson, the more I read up on Johnson, the more I studied him...the more he was a must guy for me in the draft. I almost took him at the 1.02...and those that are saying he is a reach at the 1.05...based on what? Forte being the guy because Benson is gone? I don't think so, odds are he could flop and Chicago is going to the podium next season to grab an elite RB...I just like the role that CJ is going to play on that team. He isn't going to be touching it 20 time a game on the ground but I expect him to have 10-15 plays including pass plays designed to get him into open space. In a best ball format, I think his value is even higher.

I'm not sure if your league is PPR or not. If it is, then I don't have a problem with the Chris Johnson pick. He's going to catch some passes, but I don't see him ever becoming a team's workhorse back. People often compare him to MJD and Westbrook. I think those are weak comparisons. He doesn't have the wide body or the lower body strength of those guys. He's built slight. He can make some ridiculous plays from time to time, but there's also a bit of a spaz quality to his playing style and he takes some pretty big hits. I doubt he could hold up under full time duty. Ultimately, I think he's a true change of pace back. He brings an explosive speed element that will lead to a handful of big plays. Would I want to count on him every week? No. His team is garbage and his workload won't be consistent in non-PPR. I would've rather had Felix Jones or Ray Rice if this is a non-PPR. In a PPR, it's close between those three. I think you can make a case for any of them. I probably like Rice's upside the most, but he might be the slowest to impact whereas the other two could be RB2-RB3 types immediately.

I like the CJ pick at #4. In a league where I'm loaded at RB, I ALSO took him at 4, however in a league where I'm desperate for RB help, I'm likely going to pass and take KSmith or Forte (still undecided). For all the reasons mentioned previously, CJ represents a PPR machine and a homerun hitter every time he touches the ball. The coaching staff will not ignore this and he'll see his share of playing time, especially with the competition being the headcase that is Lendale White.

 

[munchkin]

I just noticed that Chad Jackson NE was taken at 4.01 (5 picks later than Manningham BTW).

What a steal. Long term, he'll end up better than MOST of the rookie WRs taken ahead of him in this draft IMO.

seriously based on what? Brady being his QB alone? He's currently #4 on the depth cart at best and I dont see him starting for years.

Jackson is a gifted WR who hasn't had production yet, but will later this year. I'm not concerned with the June depth chart, or even the Sept depth chart, if I'm in a dynasty draft and looking long term. "Depth chart" thinking with young players will kill you.Jackson was the 2nd WR taken in the 2006 draft as the 36th pick overall. By comparison, Avery STL was the 1st WR taken as the 33rd overall this year. It's not like we're talking about low potential talent here. Jackson started very slowly in his rookie year, as any rookie WR would in the NE offense which is timing-critical. Late in the year he was more involved, but in the AFC championship game he tore his ACL.

Because he tore it so late in the year, he was on PUP until November 2007, and by that time it was too late for him to make any impact since the team was on a record setting pace and there was no reason to change things. An offense that is highly dependent on timing and is running that well already, with the WRs knowing just where to be and having the QB's confidence, doesn't allow for someone to just show up and be useful without reps with the QB in training camp, preseason games, and 8 regular season games. So Jackson was again a non-factor.

That doesn't mean his talent has magically disappeared. He just turned 23 in March. So we write him off already, preferring 3rd round 2008 rookies who still have a learning curve at least as big ahead of them? Not smart. Gaffney was signed to a one-year contract. I believe he's there to keep the seat warm for Jackson until he's assimilated into the offense, and that process has begun in OTAs where Jackson was reportedly very impressive. Since Welker was not in attendance, Jackson started out wide while Gaffney filled Welker's slot role. Gaffney is a pedestrian WR who will be the 4th WR once Jackson is fully ready to start, once he has his timing and the confidence of Brady. He's simply a better talent than Gaffney. Gaffney may well begin the season starting, but Jackson will replace him at some point this year. I couldn't care less about the depth chart right now. This is a dynasty league, and you can't think about what is; you have to think about what will come to pass over the next several years. Jackson at 4.01 was a steal.

Interesting that you feel this way after seeing him fall to the 16th and 18th rounds in the recent HA3 draft. Many OTHER rookies were chosen ahead of him there as well, and honestly, I don't get the love all of a sudden. He has the physical tools, but many receivers have busted with the brawn and not the brains. Until he proves he can keep up with Brady and Belichek's mindful offense, I'd prefer to take fliers on others, specifically Jordy and Caldwell.

I am a Jackson owner and a Patriots fan and while I am feeling hopeful about him it is not a slam dunk that he will be successful. He is still having problems with route running and the coaches are giving him extra attention. The organization obviously want him to be successful but the Packer's (who the Pat's traded up with) later pick of Jennings is looking much better to date. Fortunately I don't have to make my pre- Rookie/FA draft cuts until late August but Jackson is on my short list to be gone if he doesn't show more than he has to date.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Re: route running...

Is this something that the coaches have mentioned? I follow Jackson pretty closely and read ONE comment by ONE of the Pats beat writers where he'd seen ONE route run wrong (out of the corner of his eye, no less), and was worried about it.

Of course I then read that one comment cited two dozen times. And each time it was mentioned it was referenced with increasing weight - until now "Jackson has trouble running routes" is standard Internet wisdom. Seems like classic echo chamber stuff to me. Or is there more than this and I've just missed it?

(Serious Q - it's possible I'm just not wired into the right sources somehow. But everything I've seen from anyone involved with the Pats organization says he's maturing nicely, he's got the play book down and his routes were crisp.)

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I just noticed that Chad Jackson NE was taken at 4.01 (5 picks later than Manningham BTW). What a steal. Long term, he'll end up better than MOST of the rookie WRs taken ahead of him in this draft IMO.

seriously based on what? Brady being his QB alone? He's currently #4 on the depth cart at best and I dont see him starting for years.

Jackson is a gifted WR who hasn't had production yet, but will later this year. I'm not concerned with the June depth chart, or even the Sept depth chart, if I'm in a dynasty draft and looking long term. "Depth chart" thinking with young players will kill you.Jackson was the 2nd WR taken in the 2006 draft as the 36th pick overall. By comparison, Avery STL was the 1st WR taken as the 33rd overall this year. It's not like we're talking about low potential talent here. Jackson started very slowly in his rookie year, as any rookie WR would in the NE offense which is timing-critical. Late in the year he was more involved, but in the AFC championship game he tore his ACL. Because he tore it so late in the year, he was on PUP until November 2007, and by that time it was too late for him to make any impact since the team was on a record setting pace and there was no reason to change things. An offense that is highly dependent on timing and is running that well already, with the WRs knowing just where to be and having the QB's confidence, doesn't allow for someone to just show up and be useful without reps with the QB in training camp, preseason games, and 8 regular season games. So Jackson was again a non-factor. That doesn't mean his talent has magically disappeared. He just turned 23 in March. So we write him off already, preferring 3rd round 2008 rookies who still have a learning curve at least as big ahead of them? Not smart. Gaffney was signed to a one-year contract. I believe he's there to keep the seat warm for Jackson until he's assimilated into the offense, and that process has begun in OTAs where Jackson was reportedly very impressive. Since Welker was not in attendance, Jackson started out wide while Gaffney filled Welker's slot role. Gaffney is a pedestrian WR who will be the 4th WR once Jackson is fully ready to start, once he has his timing and the confidence of Brady. He's simply a better talent than Gaffney. Gaffney may well begin the season starting, but Jackson will replace him at some point this year. I couldn't care less about the depth chart right now. This is a dynasty league, and you can't think about what is; you have to think about what will come to pass over the next several years. Jackson at 4.01 was a steal.

CP the road to ChadJx starting or being very productive in NE is clogged by Welker and Rmoss. I dont think those two are going anywhere else soon. The WR3 in the NE passing game hasnt been exactly productive recently either. Certainly he's a decent flier at that point in the draft, but I think some of this years rookies have a chance to be productive sooner

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

General thought on my squad:

#1 - this is my first year owning this team so I am not responsible for the Bengal and Packer mongering that happened here.

Here is the squad I started with:

Jake Delhomme

Trent Edwards

Carson Palmer

JaMarcus Russell

Lorenzo Booker

Ryan Grant

Tony Hunt

Edge James

APete – Chi

Michael Turner

Derrick Ward

DeShawn Wynn

Patrick Crayton

Lee Evans

TJ Hous

Chad Johnson

James Jones

Roydell Williams

Dallas Clark

Jeff King

Matt Stover

Jacksonville

A pretty well balanced team that has Solid QB's.

a little weak at RB but a decent 3 headed monster to put up points with Edge/Turner/R.Grant.

WR's are odd with TJ Hous and Chadj 85,Lee Evans and Crayton, James Jones to add in a big score here n there.

Dallas Clark at 2 point per PPR for TE's is nice as well.

with the 9th pick I knew I would be on the fringe of getting any of the Standout rookie RB's. So I started doing my homework on the rookie WR and the Free Agent wire.

Low and Behold Aaron Rodgers was not rostered. So i put my sights on him. I looked pretty well off at the QB spot, but I figured I could pull a trade and I did. Twilight was in desperate need of a QB, but we couldnt make it work for me just giving him one QB, so I offered both Trent Edwards and JaMarcus Russell and got Santonio Holmes out of the deal. Happy about that, even if I gave up alot, shouldnt hurt me with Delhomme.Rogers and Palmer throwing up scores for me every week.

I added Earl Bennett in round2. Now Chicago's O is much maligned, but he should be able to beat out Booker,Lloyd and Bradley to get on the field. Hopefully Chicago makes a move at QB next off-season.

I added Sammy Morris in round3. Not a great pick with limited upside, this is more of a pick for this season, I suspect that Maroney much like last year with have his carries rationed. Sammy Mo was the guy to have last year before the injury.

I am still waiting for my 4th rounder.

So now my squad is:

Jake Delhomme

Carson Palmer

Aaron Rodgers

Lorenzo Booker

Ryan Grant

Edge James

APete – Chi

Michael Turner

Derrick Ward

DeShawn Wynn

Sammy Morris

Patrick Crayton

Lee Evans

TJ Hous

Chad Johnson

James Jones

Roydell Williams

Santonio Holmes

Earl Bennett

Dallas Clark

Jeff King

Stover

Jacksonville

 

[munchkin]

Re: route running...Is this something that the coaches have mentioned? I follow Jackson pretty closely and read ONE comment by ONE of the Pats beat writers where he'd seen ONE route run wrong (out of the corner of his eye, no less), and was worried about it. Of course I then read that one comment cited two dozen times. And each time it was mentioned it was referenced with increasing weight - until now "Jackson has trouble running routes" is standard Internet wisdom. Seems like classic echo chamber stuff to me. Or is there more than this and I've just missed it? (Serious Q - it's possible I'm just not wired into the right sources somehow. But everything I've seen from anyone involved with the Pats organization says he's maturing nicely, he's got the play book down and his routes were crisp.)

I listen to PFW in Progress which is the Patriot's web broadcast twice a week and the writers have expressed optimism BUT concern in regards to Jackson. The guy is going to be given every opportunity to succeed but they feel he is not where he should be in the mental aspect of the game. With Moss and Welker helping him and a solid coaching staff hopefully he will show marked improvement come training camp; but as the PFW writers have stated, "if a WR isn't in the right spot Brady will not throw him the ball". CJ has great physical tools and I certainly want him to succeed but he has not been "IMPRESSIVE".

 

[ravnzfan]

missin' you guys :(

IIRC, looks like ABrecher has the 'ole squad. no?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

missin' you guys IIRC, looks like ABrecher has the 'ole squad. no?

PM sent

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

bump,

fourth round all but over and added to the first post

 

[AB in DC]

missin' you guys IIRC, looks like ABrecher has the 'ole squad. no?

Not much to say about my draft. I was short a 2nd round pick (Ravnzfan traded last year in a package for McNabb) and needed depth, so I made the trade as MoP wrote. Adding Schaub and Ryan (BPA at 2.01) turns the team's weakness into a strength. After that, I didn't see much value in the rookies still on the board, so I took a shot at a couple young veterans with upside.

 

[Captain Hook]

From my POV, the draft SUCKED, but credit that to my opponents good picks

Going into the draft, my strengths were:

WR (Wayne, Jennings, Bowe, Galloway, Gaffney and Stokely); and

TE (Daniels and Scheffler)

My weaknesses were

QB (Cutler and a retired Favre) which were a strength last year; and

RB (Maroney and Fragile Fred and Foster now relegated to backup)

Hard to address both positions at the same time and after a careful review of all the rookies that would be drafted in the first round before my pick at 1.10, I had planned on taking Aaron Rodgers and at least addressing the QB deficit. NOT - BSS smashed that plan. Rather than take a RB who was not immediate help - Torain or Charles, I took what I perceived to be the best WR on the board - before you land on that comment vs my pick - I don't need the immediate help there with my current WR, and I think Limas Sweed has great future upside (assuming he controls all the personal issues). Certainly where he landed was a factor that I liked.

Given that I didn't get Rodgers, my priority for my pick at 2.10 was QB and I was glad to roster Joe Flacco.

I would have paired him with Brohm or Henne, but both were gone before my next pick.

At 3.10 I decided to get a non rookie RB with some upside - for me the best of those now available (Pierre Thomas had already been drafted by the astute radballs) - especially in a best ball format was Sammy Morris since I have Maroney - NOT - again with me having already queued Morris as my pick, BSS leaps to the rescue and snags him. so I took the next best available - Fred Jackson.

There were now some additional plays I wanted to make, but I was out of picks (my fourth rounder moved in a trade last year). I reached out to see if someone with two picks left didn't really need them and would like an upgrade for next year and thus traded my 3rd round pick in 2009 to Family Matters for his picks at 4.10 and 4.11. With those, I drafted John David Booty (as I said on the draft commentary, I am not a Tavaris Jackson believer and they traded up to get Booty, so while he won't help this year, I am glad to have him to see if he develops and becomes the starter in Minnesota).

I wanted to draft either Chris Perry, Cin or Tim Hightower from my hometown Cardinals but of course the boys here were on them like white on rice, so I took a pick for the future? Jalen Parmele. I like his potential, some comments the Tuna made about him and will just have to see - it's worth a roster spot - at least for now.

GREAT DRAFT guys - now if they would just Lynch Marshawn......