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Bye Bye Hank Baskett
hardly. Curtis can work out wide or in the slot. Philly likes the 3 WR set.Avant and Baskett will compete to be that 3rd option.Baskett is devalued sure (just like last year with the addition of Stallworth) but he's far from WW fodder.He's a much better 3rd option than many teams have.
I like Curtis alot, but Reggie Brown is #1. He would have been even if Stallworth re-signed.
Really? Wasnt Baskett the #3 last year and he didnt put up any stats? He had only 2 games where he scored fantasy points and one of them was the meaningless week 17 game.Curtis seems to be a good B grade replacement for Stallworth.Bye Bye Hank Baskett
hardly. Curtis can work out wide or in the slot. Philly likes the 3 WR set.Avant and Baskett will compete to be that 3rd option.Baskett is devalued sure (just like last year with the addition of Stallworth) but he's far from WW fodder.He's a much better 3rd option than many teams have.
The thing that should be striking fear to NYG, DAL, or WAS fans are their management teams. The Giants are in disarray since Ernie Accorsi left, Jerry Jones is a joke for hiring Wade Phillips, and Dan Snyder will keep running the skins into the ground. Those 3 teams will be looking up at the Eagles at the top of the NFC East yet again this year.
He'll be inconsistent from game to game, as all Eagles WRs are. That's just the nature of that offense. The only thing predictable is that Westbrook will catch 4-6 balls out of the backfield. Otherwise, McNabb seems to have a different favorite receiver every week.
I think you're a bit off on the money disbursement figures.As I read it, in addition to a $2M signing bonus he will also receive a $5M roster bonus, $1.5 million of which is to be paid out in March '08. He is also guaranteed $1.5M of his $2M base salary in 2008. Since the deal contains $9.5M in guaranteed money, the total payout for 2007 must be $6.5 million. It will apparently be allocated as $2M signing bonus, $1M base salary, and $6.5M of the roster bonus. I find it all a little confusing - wouldn't it make more sense to pump up the signing bonus figure, since it can be cap-allocated over the length of the deal?As a season-ticket holder, I'm very pleased with the Curtis signing, and I'm encouraged by the fact that the front office identified a need and filled it with a proven commodity, instead of bringing in a bargain retread. (ie Gaffney) And thank you, Joe Banner, for not seriously trying to sell us on the notion that Avant and Baskett's one year of maturation would be enough to compensate for the loss of Stallworth. Hopefully this is a sign that the FO has now come out of hibernation and will soon be addressing the LB and RB positions as well. (And doing so with actual starting-caliber NFL players, not anonymous special teams aces.)
Baskett's value has taken a major hit,whether people want to believe it or not, this is the case. If the coaching staff thought Baskett was ready to assumethe #2 WR position, they would not have committed big dollars to Curtis.This is a big short term hit to Baskett.Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.Bye Bye Hank Baskett
hardly. Curtis can work out wide or in the slot. Philly likes the 3 WR set.Avant and Baskett will compete to be that 3rd option.Baskett is devalued sure (just like last year with the addition of Stallworth) but he's far from WW fodder.He's a much better 3rd option than many teams have.
He's good. He's not as explosive as Stallworth, but he might actually be a better football player.
TN let Bennett go due to his lack of speed being weighed down by his hands of steel...
So you agree with me. Thanks for not being delusional either.Baskett's value has taken a major hit,whether people want to believe it or not, this is the case.Bye Bye Hank Baskett
Baskett is devalued sure (just like last year with the addition of Stallworth) but he's far from WW fodder.
He's a much better 3rd option than many teams have.
If the coaching staff thought Baskett was ready to assume
the #2 WR position, they would not have committed big dollars to Curtis.
This is a big short term hit to Baskett.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.
You're not quite following along with the NFL calendar and the contractual trickery here.There are 2 roster bonuses - one in late February 2008 ($3.5M), one in March 2008 ($1.5M). His signing bonus was $1.5M and his base salary is $1.0M base contract this year. That's $2.5M up front, guaranteed, and that's about it. The $5M is split into February and March because Feb 08 is still the same NFL year as 2007 (that's why Free Agency started 2 weeks ago). Thus the $3.5M roster bonus in Feb 08 isn't an obligation, but if they did pay it, it would be against 2007 cap money.The only money guaranteed for year 1 is the signing bonus ($1.5M) and the 2007 guaranteed salary ($1M).This is exactly what NE did with Stallworth, making his deal basically a 1-year deal.The guarantees here may make this turn out to be a 2-year deal, but basically a 1-yr followed by another 1-yr option that costs $5M in bonuses and another $1.5M in salary. If Curtis returns in 08, look for the Eagles to renegotiate the $5M number.
no i am delusionalBaskett's value has taken a major hit,whether people want to believe it or not, this is the case. If the coaching staff thought Baskett was ready to assumethe #2 WR position, they would not have committed big dollars to Curtis.This is a big short term hit to Baskett.Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.Bye Bye Hank Basketthardly. Curtis can work out wide or in the slot. Philly likes the 3 WR set.Avant and Baskett will compete to be that 3rd option.Baskett is devalued sure (just like last year with the addition of Stallworth) but he's far from WW fodder.He's a much better 3rd option than many teams have.
What's the latest with McNabb though - I thought he's still got a long rehab ahead and may not be ready to go by the beginning of the season.
There are ZERO indications that he will not be ready. What little that has come out is all positive for training camp.
Fair enough - I haven't followed his situation that closely. Given that the injury happened late in the season, there appeared to be a lot of question marks about his readiness.
I would think if Philly didn't think McNuggett wouldn't be ready they would have made more of an effort to keep Garcia. But you never know.
Maybe the five division crowns in six years does? If the Giants and Cowboys didn't get the Birds last year, they better take ANY incremental improvement to the Eagles roster seriously this year.As a Curtis owner I am glad he went to the Eagles. I would much rather have McNabb throwing to him than the unproven Young.Darn - really thought he would have made a good Titan.
Tom Heckert was on the Afternoon Blitz (Sirius NFL Radio) and broke the news about Curtis. When Schein asked about McNabb Heckert said that he is doing great and they expect him to be there for training camp. Other tidbits:
Yeah...great signing?Stallworth > Curtis
Ehh...for a while he had very good hands...not sure what happened last year actually.Just seems puzzling to me...IMO they could have easily extended Bennett during the year and got him at a good price (granted the change in GMs down here may have made that difficult)... to me there is little difference between the 2 guys...and Bennett already knew the system.Unless they really thought they could lure Stallworth in (who is the best of those 3 IMO)...
Curtis hamstrings >>> Stallworth hamstringsStallworth is better if he can stay on the field which he has shown an inabiity to do during his career.2002 missed 9 games2003 missed 13 games2004 missed 6 games2005 missed 3 games2006 missed 5 gamesCurtis has missed one game since 04
And your getting those stats from?2004 and 2005 every site lists him as playing in every game...did not start...but appeared in those games.
I don't think he stopped being injury prone as his Hammys have been the issue.However, he was relatively healthy in 2004 and 2005..missed time again last season. But is much more talented.It has nothing to do with the Pats. He simply is a better WR than Curtis.Im a Packer fan and don't like the Pats...so that argument is kind of mute. He is not all of a sudden better, he has always been better.When did Donte Stallworth stop being injury prone? I find it fascinating the way support for him has done a 180 in the last 14 months or so. It would've been one thing if he came to Philly last year and lit it up from start to finish, but he wasn't reliable for the Birds either. Now that the Pats have signed him to a glorified 1-year deal, he's better than Kevin Curtis?
Curtis' ceiling IMO is as a #2 WR.whereas Stallworth can be a #1 kind of guy.
Curtis has been very productive when he has not beein in the WR3 role. When Bruce went down, Curtis put up quality numbers. Bruce & Holt are better than any WR Philly has had in the last 5 years not named T.O. Curtis will be the #1 deep option in Philly and the #2 WR on other routes. He will be a very good #3 fantasy WR with #2WR potential. I believe he will finish in the WR 25-35 range. Philly was the best possible destination for him.
They both have speed, Curtis doesn't drop the ball as much as Stallworth and Curtis has missed very few games in his career, unlike Donte.I'll bet anyone that Curtis will put up equal or better numbers than Stallworth next year. Curtis will be on the field for 16 games while Stallworth will miss his usual 3-5 games.
I doubt the bet is just because of missing games...but this usual 3-5 games is bull....read above where I blew that out of the water.But Curtis might put up equal or better numbers...but lets see why...care to examine the two teams and offensive systems?They both have speed, Curtis doesn't drop the ball as much as Stallworth and Curtis has missed very few games in his career, unlike Donte.I'll bet anyone that Curtis will put up equal or better numbers than Stallworth next year. Curtis will be on the field for 16 games while Stallworth will miss his usual 3-5 games.
delusional said:no i am delusionalRon_Mexico said:Baskett's value has taken a major hit,whether people want to believe it or not, this is the case. If the coaching staff thought Baskett was ready to assumethe #2 WR position, they would not have committed big dollars to Curtis.This is a big short term hit to Baskett.Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.Jeff Pasquino said:Ron_Mexico said:Bye Bye Hank Basketthardly. Curtis can work out wide or in the slot. Philly likes the 3 WR set.Avant and Baskett will compete to be that 3rd option.Baskett is devalued sure (just like last year with the addition of Stallworth) but he's far from WW fodder.He's a much better 3rd option than many teams have.
Blowing out of the water ? The guy has missed 11-12 (one game he played in Philly he came out after one catch) games in that time. The guy has missed 15% of his career games.
He posted a list of games missed...it was not a correct list of games missed...it was a list of games he did not start...but did play in many of them. in 04 and 05 he is listed as playing in every game. And had at least 1 reception in all but 2 of those 32 games in those seasons.Had 2 or more catches in 26 of those 32 games in those 2 years...yet the claim was made that he missed 9 games in those seasons. Funny how a guy who missed 9 games had 2 or more receptions in all but 6 games...and at least one catch in all but 2 games.06 he missed 4 games.Had 2 or more receptions in 9 of the 12 games...1 reception in two of them...and one game he played that he did not have a reception.So...yes, blew it out of the water when someone made the claim that he missed 36 games since 02.
Yes 3 games a season was incorrect, however I think you missed his point. The guy has missed quite a few games and has had major problems through out his career with his hamstring.
I agree he has had issues with his hammys and that he is more of a risk than Curtis...but IMO he also brings more to the table than Curtis...its a risk reward thing and Stallworth is the better of the two IMO.
One of the fastest in the league, actually.
