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Early game decision - Ochocinco & TO vs. Jets (1 Viewer)

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Interesting issue I'm encountering with Ochocinco, and obviously TO owners will encounter it too. Do you start those guys on Thursday against Revis and Co.?

It's the early game so time is of the essence on this one, especially given that we'll all likely be distracted by Thanksgiving obligations between now and then.

What are your thoughts on how these guys will do against that Jets defense?

 
Personally, I'm sitting Ochocinco and Benson this week, and starting NYJ defense. This may very well be the last startable game for the vaunted NYJ defense.

Rex Ryan was quoted earlier this week as saying that Revis will switch up on Ochocinco and TO, depending on the situation. Ochocinco has been anything but consistent, and when you add Revis [or Cromartie] into the equation, I can't justify starting him. FWIW, I'll most likely be starting Burleson and Obomanu over Ochocinco and Marshall.

As far as Benson goes, I can see the Bengals getting behind early and giving Scott a little more PT in passing situations. I like Benson, just not this week. Depending on Jonathan Stewart's status, I'll likely be rolling with Mike Goodson or Chris Ivory this week.

If I owned TO, I would have a hard time sitting him.

 
If I owned TO, I would have a hard time sitting him.
No lie. Debating that for myself now. If Revis is going to be switching off on the two of them it's an easier call; I'd more expected him to lock on TO.
 
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If I owned TO, I would have a hard time sitting him.
No lie. Debating that for myself now. If Revis is going to be switching off on the two of them it's an easier call; I'd more expected him to lock on TO.
I own T.O. but I also own Jennings and AJ. I sat both of them with much different results. Jennings had a decent game but that was before Revis was healthy. AJ was on my bench last week and got 2 points. T.O. can get his 2 points on my bench as well.
 
I have TO in both of my leagues and I'm probably sittiing him in both for Santana Moss in one league and Braylon Edwards or Miles Austin in the other.

I'd start him if I was more limited but I feel my otions have much more upside this week.

 
My dilemma is Ochocinco in this early game, or Mike Williams (SEA) who is injured or Randy Moss who is sucking eggs. You'd never think with those three guys that you'd have this sort of problem, but here you go. I wish I had more info about Williams' injury.

 
My choices are TO or Blair White. I'll probably go with White. I also read that Revis said he expects to be on TO.

 
I'm going to go with probably Burleson over TO. I think the DET/NE game is going to be a shootout. I also have Mike Williams (TB) as an option. Like somebody earlier said, if he shut down AJ, he can shut down TO.

 
With Revis-Cromartie lined up against TO-Ochocinco, the blitz coming fast, and Benson likely to be held in check...I actually like Shipley and Gresham to be the receivers to start in this one.

But overall, I wouldn't overthink it- TO is a stud this year and should be started every week, and Ochocinco I would play the matchups...and this isn't a good matchup for him if you have another solid option (if you're fortunate enough to have some of the depth that the above posters have)

 
From an analytical perspective, I can see the argument to potentially sit T.O. given Revis' track record. But playing the matchup game with a Top 5 WR who is playing at the top of his game is a risky proposition. What could be different in this case (vs. AJ or MEgatron) is the dual threat of Ocho on the other side vs. guys like Kevin Walter or Nate Burleson.

Also, for T.O. to put up 2 TD's against PIT (I know about their secondary but are still a Top 5 D) was dang impressive.

From a sheer fan perspective, I can't see how anyone owning T.O. would turn down the oppty to root for a HOF WR, playing in prime-time, competing against the best CB the game has to offer. T.O. has shown no erosion whatsoever in his skills and to be called out by Revis' calling him a slouch should translate into his best effort throughout the game (i.e. low likelihood of recent alligator arms). Should be quite a show.

Now if we could only solve the Carson Palmer issue...

 
Ochblowstinko remains seated on my bench unless all of my other WRs get hurt. Even then, I would consider starting a banged up WR over this stiff.

 
Interesting issue I'm encountering with Ochocinco, and obviously TO owners will encounter it too. Do you start those guys on Thursday against Revis and Co.?

It's the early game so time is of the essence on this one, especially given that we'll all likely be distracted by Thanksgiving obligations between now and then.

What are your thoughts on how these guys will do against that Jets defense?
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really want to bench TO as I think he gets shut down but my options are Amendala, Bess and Tate so I dont think I have much choice - if you havea solid option I would bench TO....the Island is back - I also like Gresham this week

 
PhantomJB said:
From an analytical perspective, I can see the argument to potentially sit T.O. given Revis' track record. But playing the matchup game with a Top 5 WR who is playing at the top of his game is a risky proposition. What could be different in this case (vs. AJ or MEgatron) is the dual threat of Ocho on the other side vs. guys like Kevin Walter or Nate Burleson. Also, for T.O. to put up 2 TD's against PIT (I know about their secondary but are still a Top 5 D) was dang impressive.From a sheer fan perspective, I can't see how anyone owning T.O. would turn down the oppty to root for a HOF WR, playing in prime-time, competing against the best CB the game has to offer. T.O. has shown no erosion whatsoever in his skills and to be called out by Revis' calling him a slouch should translate into his best effort throughout the game (i.e. low likelihood of recent alligator arms). Should be quite a show.Now if we could only solve the Carson Palmer issue...
Rooting has nothing to do with FF. It's about starting the players who score the most points. TO's targets have fallen from double didgits to single digits these past two weeks. That reflects in his FF scoring too. Last year Revis held TO to 3 catches and about 30 yards, although that was with the Bills. I don't know if it matters that Ocho is a dual threat... while not impossible, even the league's elite rarely have a quality game against Revis when he is healthy, and he's healthy. Cromartie's height probably makes him better suited to cover Ocho in any case. I agree with GreenMachine, the best options are Gresham and Shipley. The Jets are soft over the middle. If TO is to have a decent game, he'll have to do it in the middle, not on the outside.
 
PhantomJB said:
From an analytical perspective, I can see the argument to potentially sit T.O. given Revis' track record. But playing the matchup game with a Top 5 WR who is playing at the top of his game is a risky proposition. What could be different in this case (vs. AJ or MEgatron) is the dual threat of Ocho on the other side vs. guys like Kevin Walter or Nate Burleson.

Also, for T.O. to put up 2 TD's against PIT (I know about their secondary but are still a Top 5 D) was dang impressive.

From a sheer fan perspective, I can't see how anyone owning T.O. would turn down the oppty to root for a HOF WR, playing in prime-time, competing against the best CB the game has to offer. T.O. has shown no erosion whatsoever in his skills and to be called out by Revis' calling him a slouch should translate into his best effort throughout the game (i.e. low likelihood of recent alligator arms). Should be quite a show.

Now if we could only solve the Carson Palmer issue...
Rooting has nothing to do with FF. It's about starting the players who score the most points. TO's targets have fallen from double didgits to single digits these past two weeks. That reflects in his FF scoring too. Last year Revis held TO to 3 catches and about 30 yards, although that was with the Bills. I don't know if it matters that Ocho is a dual threat... while not impossible, even the league's elite rarely have a quality game against Revis when he is healthy, and he's healthy. Cromartie's height probably makes him better suited to cover Ocho in any case.

I agree with GreenMachine, the best options are Gresham and Shipley. The Jets are soft over the middle. If TO is to have a decent game, he'll have to do it in the middle, not on the outside.
Wow. That could be the SP statement of the year.It's pretty well qualified by saying "from a sheer fan perspective."

 
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Screw it. Randy Moss over Ocho. Moss has one of the best matchups in the league in the Texans' pass defense. He's got to bet back on the board at some point, right?

I'm sure I'm going to regret this. :X :wall:

Interesting issue I'm encountering with Ochocinco, and obviously TO owners will encounter it too. Do you start those guys on Thursday against Revis and Co.?

It's the early game so time is of the essence on this one, especially given that we'll all likely be distracted by Thanksgiving obligations between now and then.

What are your thoughts on how these guys will do against that Jets defense?
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Meaning Thursday instead of Sunday.
 
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