It really is sad how much you thrive on these things. You might be the only person who can look up WebMD and get the prognosis of "wearing a tinfoil hat."In regards to what is specifically happening in Dallas, and can be assumed to show a lack of overall preparedness, it harkens me back to Katrina because I watched the news days prior, could anticipate what was going to happen, and was stunned that I knew more and had a better perspective by watching and reading news than our government institutions that appeared vastly uninformed and out of touch.How does the CDC leave a family unattended without food and with the soiled sheets and towels from and Ebola patient still in the apartment? The family ignored the order and left the house, and is likely going to contact the disease in that apartment building and spread it to who knows who else. Just appears that our agencies are reactive and haven't thought through contingencies at a time when time itself is of the essence.Obama's Katrina? Hadn't heard that one before but that is laughable.
An epidemic happens half way around the world and its Obama's Katrina?
Katrina was in our own fracking country. Some people amaze me with their crazy thoughts.
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drummer
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I think Mr. Ham lives in Florida. They have genetic issues there.It really is sad how much you thrive on these things. You might be the only person who can look up WebMD and get the prognosis of "wearing a tinfoil hat."In regards to what is specifically happening in Dallas, and can be assumed to show a lack of overall preparedness, it harkens me back to Katrina because I watched the news days prior, could anticipate what was going to happen, and was stunned that I knew more and had a better perspective by watching and reading news than our government institutions that appeared vastly uninformed and out of touch.How does the CDC leave a family unattended without food and with the soiled sheets and towels from and Ebola patient still in the apartment? The family ignored the order and left the house, and is likely going to contact the disease in that apartment building and spread it to who knows who else. Just appears that our agencies are reactive and haven't thought through contingencies at a time when time itself is of the essence.Obama's Katrina? Hadn't heard that one before but that is laughable.
An epidemic happens half way around the world and its Obama's Katrina?
Katrina was in our own fracking country. Some people amaze me with their crazy thoughts.
He's had a full on panic for every disease known to man. If ebola ever has a rainbow...I think Mr. Ham lives in Florida. They have genetic issues there.It really is sad how much you thrive on these things. You might be the only person who can look up WebMD and get the prognosis of "wearing a tinfoil hat."In regards to what is specifically happening in Dallas, and can be assumed to show a lack of overall preparedness, it harkens me back to Katrina because I watched the news days prior, could anticipate what was going to happen, and was stunned that I knew more and had a better perspective by watching and reading news than our government institutions that appeared vastly uninformed and out of touch.How does the CDC leave a family unattended without food and with the soiled sheets and towels from and Ebola patient still in the apartment? The family ignored the order and left the house, and is likely going to contact the disease in that apartment building and spread it to who knows who else. Just appears that our agencies are reactive and haven't thought through contingencies at a time when time itself is of the essence.Obama's Katrina? Hadn't heard that one before but that is laughable.
An epidemic happens half way around the world and its Obama's Katrina?
Katrina was in our own fracking country. Some people amaze me with their crazy thoughts.
drummer
Footballguy
I bet he listens to 7 full hours of Ground Zero and George Noori.He's had a full on panic for every disease known to man. If ebola ever has a rainbow...I think Mr. Ham lives in Florida. They have genetic issues there.It really is sad how much you thrive on these things. You might be the only person who can look up WebMD and get the prognosis of "wearing a tinfoil hat."In regards to what is specifically happening in Dallas, and can be assumed to show a lack of overall preparedness, it harkens me back to Katrina because I watched the news days prior, could anticipate what was going to happen, and was stunned that I knew more and had a better perspective by watching and reading news than our government institutions that appeared vastly uninformed and out of touch.How does the CDC leave a family unattended without food and with the soiled sheets and towels from and Ebola patient still in the apartment? The family ignored the order and left the house, and is likely going to contact the disease in that apartment building and spread it to who knows who else. Just appears that our agencies are reactive and haven't thought through contingencies at a time when time itself is of the essence.Obama's Katrina? Hadn't heard that one before but that is laughable.
An epidemic happens half way around the world and its Obama's Katrina?
Katrina was in our own fracking country. Some people amaze me with their crazy thoughts.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Wait, everyone in the FFA doesn't have Drummer on ignore? It is a simple function to use.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
This lone guy is putting 300,000,000 people at risk of a pandemic from exposure to a virus that here on the American continent, was isolated from it's location of origin over in Africa. Even knowing death is probably well around the corner for him, that's pretty selfish no? I know I would have a hard time with that on my conscious.you're not welcome here unless you're healthy and wealthy.
It's kind of similar to when the Europeans brought over their measles and flu to the Native Americans...without the malicious intent. But despite what the government says, we aren't prepared for this, just like the NA's weren't. The government's job is to suppress public panic, they're doing a lot right concerning that so far...
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drummer
Footballguy
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-klmpKIjPa1g/TnZcQUkjLZI/AAAAAAAAFNk/h6A-ixydpKk/s1600/OneFlewOver_028Pyxurz.jpgIn regards to what is specifically happening in Dallas, and can be assumed to show a lack of overall preparedness, it harkens me back to Katrina because I watched the news days prior, could anticipate what was going to happen, and was stunned that I knew more and had a better perspective by watching and reading news than our government institutions that appeared vastly uninformed and out of touch.How does the CDC leave a family unattended without food and with the soiled sheets and towels from and Ebola patient still in the apartment? The family ignored the order and left the house, and is likely going to contact the disease in that apartment building and spread it to who knows who else. Just appears that our agencies are reactive and haven't thought through contingencies at a time when time itself is of the essence.Obama's Katrina? Hadn't heard that one before but that is laughable.
An epidemic happens half way around the world and its Obama's Katrina?
Katrina was in our own fracking country. Some people amaze me with their crazy thoughts.
drummer
Footballguy
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Thrives on what? There's a highly contagious disease with a window for containment. I'm concerned, as are many. We spend hundreds of billions on wars, it just seems logical that we would have government institutions that would not claim poverty when something needs instant and proactive attention.It really is sad how much you thrive on these things. You might be the only person who can look up WebMD and get the prognosis of "wearing a tinfoil hat."In regards to what is specifically happening in Dallas, and can be assumed to show a lack of overall preparedness, it harkens me back to Katrina because I watched the news days prior, could anticipate what was going to happen, and was stunned that I knew more and had a better perspective by watching and reading news than our government institutions that appeared vastly uninformed and out of touch.How does the CDC leave a family unattended without food and with the soiled sheets and towels from and Ebola patient still in the apartment? The family ignored the order and left the house, and is likely going to contact the disease in that apartment building and spread it to who knows who else. Just appears that our agencies are reactive and haven't thought through contingencies at a time when time itself is of the essence.Obama's Katrina? Hadn't heard that one before but that is laughable.
An epidemic happens half way around the world and its Obama's Katrina?
Katrina was in our own fracking country. Some people amaze me with their crazy thoughts.
Here's a quick tip -- if you know someone who has recently been to Western Africa, don't slob his peen.Thrives on what? There's a highly contagious disease with a window for containment. I'm concerned, as are many. We spend hundreds of billions on wars, it just seems logical that we would have government institutions that would not claim poverty when something needs instant and proactive attention.It really is sad how much you thrive on these things. You might be the only person who can look up WebMD and get the prognosis of "wearing a tinfoil hat."In regards to what is specifically happening in Dallas, and can be assumed to show a lack of overall preparedness, it harkens me back to Katrina because I watched the news days prior, could anticipate what was going to happen, and was stunned that I knew more and had a better perspective by watching and reading news than our government institutions that appeared vastly uninformed and out of touch.How does the CDC leave a family unattended without food and with the soiled sheets and towels from and Ebola patient still in the apartment? The family ignored the order and left the house, and is likely going to contact the disease in that apartment building and spread it to who knows who else. Just appears that our agencies are reactive and haven't thought through contingencies at a time when time itself is of the essence.Obama's Katrina? Hadn't heard that one before but that is laughable.
An epidemic happens half way around the world and its Obama's Katrina?
Katrina was in our own fracking country. Some people amaze me with their crazy thoughts.
As to my point, you brought up some war numbers that don't mean a damned thing in this context. You are a paranoid freak.
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I get it. It's the time of night when the drunk #######s come out and make the thread mean. Goodnight. Drink a lot of water before bed.Here's a quick tip -- if you know someone who has recently been to Western Africa, don't slob his peen.Thrives on what? There's a highly contagious disease with a window for containment. I'm concerned, as are many. We spend hundreds of billions on wars, it just seems logical that we would have government institutions that would not claim poverty when something needs instant and proactive attention.It really is sad how much you thrive on these things. You might be the only person who can look up WebMD and get the prognosis of "wearing a tinfoil hat."In regards to what is specifically happening in Dallas, and can be assumed to show a lack of overall preparedness, it harkens me back to Katrina because I watched the news days prior, could anticipate what was going to happen, and was stunned that I knew more and had a better perspective by watching and reading news than our government institutions that appeared vastly uninformed and out of touch.How does the CDC leave a family unattended without food and with the soiled sheets and towels from and Ebola patient still in the apartment? The family ignored the order and left the house, and is likely going to contact the disease in that apartment building and spread it to who knows who else. Just appears that our agencies are reactive and haven't thought through contingencies at a time when time itself is of the essence.Obama's Katrina? Hadn't heard that one before but that is laughable.
An epidemic happens half way around the world and its Obama's Katrina?
Katrina was in our own fracking country. Some people amaze me with their crazy thoughts.
As to my point, you brought up some war numbers that don't mean a damned thing in this context. You are a paranoid freak.
Nice try. My education in this field surpasses anything you have ever read online. Your MO is always the same around here: something breaks and you jump in with your "researched opinion." When things dissipate, you claim "better safe than sorry" but bring up the potential of some sort of bigger issue.I get it. It's the time of night when the drunk #######s come out and make the thread mean. Goodnight. Drink a lot of water before bed.Here's a quick tip -- if you know someone who has recently been to Western Africa, don't slob his peen.Thrives on what? There's a highly contagious disease with a window for containment. I'm concerned, as are many. We spend hundreds of billions on wars, it just seems logical that we would have government institutions that would not claim poverty when something needs instant and proactive attention.It really is sad how much you thrive on these things. You might be the only person who can look up WebMD and get the prognosis of "wearing a tinfoil hat."In regards to what is specifically happening in Dallas, and can be assumed to show a lack of overall preparedness, it harkens me back to Katrina because I watched the news days prior, could anticipate what was going to happen, and was stunned that I knew more and had a better perspective by watching and reading news than our government institutions that appeared vastly uninformed and out of touch.How does the CDC leave a family unattended without food and with the soiled sheets and towels from and Ebola patient still in the apartment? The family ignored the order and left the house, and is likely going to contact the disease in that apartment building and spread it to who knows who else. Just appears that our agencies are reactive and haven't thought through contingencies at a time when time itself is of the essence.Obama's Katrina? Hadn't heard that one before but that is laughable.
An epidemic happens half way around the world and its Obama's Katrina?
Katrina was in our own fracking country. Some people amaze me with their crazy thoughts.
As to my point, you brought up some war numbers that don't mean a damned thing in this context. You are a paranoid freak.
You've had flu panic, rainbow panic, gas leak panic...the list goes on with you. You're a paranoid freak that wants to wear a sandwich board proclaiming the end of the Earth is coming. Eventually, you will be right. Something will end it all. Just not this one.
drummer
Footballguy
Riversco
Footballguy
I think its because, even now, he hasn't stopped all flights from Liberia, not because of the budget.
jamny
Footballguy
Harry Manback
Footballguy
It's FAR better they are diagnosed over there and brought here than diagnosed here.
Little to no chance he infects anyone, and if he does they will be aware/take precautions.
It's the people coming over un-diagnosed who have a chance to spread it around that should concern you.
Parrothead
Footballguy
how does a cameraman catch this? a cameraman, not a health care worker... why is a cameraman that close to bodily fluids?
Harry Manback
Footballguy
Sweat is a bodily fluid...he was having his temperature taken twice a day up until he started developing a fever.how does a cameraman catch this? a cameraman, not a health care worker... why is a cameraman that close to bodily fluids?
They caught this super early on.
You don't get your temp taken twice a day for no reason, he must've came into contact with someone/something and thought there was a good chance he was exposed.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
You crazy folk are the best!
"EBOLA DROPLETS IN THE AIR!!!!"
"EBOLA DROPLETS IN THE AIR!!!!"
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
So... as of today there are no cases of someone being infected in the US? A few dozen people exposed to a guy in TX who might be symptomatic in a week or so, but no confirmed cases that originated here?
Seems like a good time to panic.
Seems like a good time to panic.
Parrothead
Footballguy
I'm going to start a garage band and name it Ebola Puke
Harry Manback
Footballguy
Parrothead
Footballguy
How many ebola themed Halloween costumes are we going to see?
shader
Footballguy
Nice try. My education in this field surpasses anything you have ever read online. Your MO is always the same around here: something breaks and you jump in with your "researched opinion." When things dissipate, you claim "better safe than sorry" but bring up the potential of some sort of bigger issue.I get it. It's the time of night when the drunk #######s come out and make the thread mean. Goodnight. Drink a lot of water before bed.Here's a quick tip -- if you know someone who has recently been to Western Africa, don't slob his peen.Thrives on what? There's a highly contagious disease with a window for containment. I'm concerned, as are many. We spend hundreds of billions on wars, it just seems logical that we would have government institutions that would not claim poverty when something needs instant and proactive attention.It really is sad how much you thrive on these things. You might be the only person who can look up WebMD and get the prognosis of "wearing a tinfoil hat."In regards to what is specifically happening in Dallas, and can be assumed to show a lack of overall preparedness, it harkens me back to Katrina because I watched the news days prior, could anticipate what was going to happen, and was stunned that I knew more and had a better perspective by watching and reading news than our government institutions that appeared vastly uninformed and out of touch.How does the CDC leave a family unattended without food and with the soiled sheets and towels from and Ebola patient still in the apartment? The family ignored the order and left the house, and is likely going to contact the disease in that apartment building and spread it to who knows who else. Just appears that our agencies are reactive and haven't thought through contingencies at a time when time itself is of the essence.Obama's Katrina? Hadn't heard that one before but that is laughable.
An epidemic happens half way around the world and its Obama's Katrina?
Katrina was in our own fracking country. Some people amaze me with their crazy thoughts.
As to my point, you brought up some war numbers that don't mean a damned thing in this context. You are a paranoid freak.
You've had flu panic, rainbow panic, gas leak panic...the list goes on with you. You're a paranoid freak that wants to wear a sandwich board proclaiming the end of the Earth is coming. Eventually, you will be right. Something will end it all. Just not this one.
TheIronSheik
SUPER ELITE UPPER TIER
This thread grew 4 pages overnight and I don't feel like reading it all.
Did anyone mention how the NBC cameraman got Ebola? Why would he be touching anyone? I understand why doctors get it, but how does a cameraman get it?
Did anyone mention how the NBC cameraman got Ebola? Why would he be touching anyone? I understand why doctors get it, but how does a cameraman get it?
mquinnjr
Footballguy
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
"He's spraying droplets of ebola into the air for crying out loud"This thread grew 4 pages overnight and I don't feel like reading it all.
Did anyone mention how the NBC cameraman got Ebola? Why would he be touching anyone? I understand why doctors get it, but how does a cameraman get it?
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
So your position is it's not possible to transmit by cough or sneeze?"He's spraying droplets of ebola into the air for crying out loud"This thread grew 4 pages overnight and I don't feel like reading it all.
Did anyone mention how the NBC cameraman got Ebola? Why would he be touching anyone? I understand why doctors get it, but how does a cameraman get it?
mcintyre1
Footballguy
Why would it follow that I'm not allowed to counter the politicization of the right with facts?
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Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
My position is that there is a whole lot of crazy loons in this thread that are getting their panties in a bunch over nothing.So your position is it's not possible to transmit by cough or sneeze?"He's spraying droplets of ebola into the air for crying out loud"This thread grew 4 pages overnight and I don't feel like reading it all.
Did anyone mention how the NBC cameraman got Ebola? Why would he be touching anyone? I understand why doctors get it, but how does a cameraman get it?
TheIronSheik
SUPER ELITE UPPER TIER
I was just asking a simple question.My position is that there is a whole lot of crazy loons in this thread that are getting their panties in a bunch over nothing.So your position is it's not possible to transmit by cough or sneeze?"He's spraying droplets of ebola into the air for crying out loud"This thread grew 4 pages overnight and I don't feel like reading it all.
Did anyone mention how the NBC cameraman got Ebola? Why would he be touching anyone? I understand why doctors get it, but how does a cameraman get it?
mcintyre1
Footballguy
For Cliff: CDC's Ebola infection prevention and control recommendationsSo your position is it's not possible to transmit by cough or sneeze?"He's spraying droplets of ebola into the air for crying out loud"This thread grew 4 pages overnight and I don't feel like reading it all.
Did anyone mention how the NBC cameraman got Ebola? Why would he be touching anyone? I understand why doctors get it, but how does a cameraman get it?
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Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
Was not referring to you.I was just asking a simple question.My position is that there is a whole lot of crazy loons in this thread that are getting their panties in a bunch over nothing.So your position is it's not possible to transmit by cough or sneeze?"He's spraying droplets of ebola into the air for crying out loud"This thread grew 4 pages overnight and I don't feel like reading it all.
Did anyone mention how the NBC cameraman got Ebola? Why would he be touching anyone? I understand why doctors get it, but how does a cameraman get it?
timschochet
Footballguy
According to the radio, you have to be close enough to the sneeze so that it gets in your eyes. Or you have to lick and swallow the other person's excretions.
Bogeys
Footballguy
Or have an open sore or cut in your skin. Thats why protective suits and gloves are worn along with the glasses.
mcintyre1
Footballguy
That's not entirely accurate, based on what I've read. Ebola can survive anywhere from 15 minutes to 48 hours on surfaces in water droplets/etc. depending on the surface and exposure to sunlight. Contact with that infected surface and subsequent contact with the eyes and mouth would likely be enough for infection. That said, we don't really know for sure because previous outbreaks have been much smaller and the focus was on containment less than research on how each person got infected.
mquinnjr
Footballguy
Honest question, if you're on a plane with no ventilation/same air circling, could that hypothetically infect everyone if the sneeze gets in your mouth/eyes/any openings on your face?
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Have you ever been a city? I've been blasted with more sneezes than I can count. And "cover your mouth" is not common sense to many immigrants. To the point where signs are posted about it in NYC subways.
jamny
Footballguy
If that were the case why are doctors protected head to toe while treating patients? They would only need gloves, goggles and a mask.
Bogeys
Footballguy
Don't know the answer to that. I know just a few basics because I work in a hospital...but I do financial analysis not medical (icky) stuff.
mcintyre1
Footballguy
You probably need to be directly next to the infected person and come into direct contact with an infected surface or be directly sneezed/coughed on. I guess it might technically be possible to go through the air circulation system, but that'd be like hitting a 300 yard hole in one where you've not been told where the green is and can't see it.
TheIronSheik
SUPER ELITE UPPER TIER
I heard a doctor on the news the other night say no to this question. Because planes filter the air before it is recirculated back out to the cabin.
TheIronSheik
SUPER ELITE UPPER TIER
Parrothead
Footballguy
especially is someone is not showing symptoms and is allowed on the plane, then 3 hours later the symptoms kick in and puke starts flying..
shader
Footballguy
Do you know the procedures for entering and exiting a lab that works with Ebola? The government and CDC take this very seriously. I wasn't worried about Ebola at all in this country, prior to a few days ago. But the unbelievably lax attitudes towards this disease are astounding.My position is that there is a whole lot of crazy loons in this thread that are getting their panties in a bunch over nothing.So your position is it's not possible to transmit by cough or sneeze?"He's spraying droplets of ebola into the air for crying out loud"This thread grew 4 pages overnight and I don't feel like reading it all.
Did anyone mention how the NBC cameraman got Ebola? Why would he be touching anyone? I understand why doctors get it, but how does a cameraman get it?
If Ebola is in vomit on the ground, and a janitor is spraying it, than ebola is in the water and mist that goes into the air. Is your position that ebola would NOT transmit through water that is being sprayed through the air? Obviously it's not going to get into the air and start infecting people through Dallas...but if you are right there a foot away from it...would YOU be comfortable?
I still am convinced that a first-world country should have no issues. In my opinion, a worst-case scenario from this Dallas outbreak is 4-5 people getting the virus, and a huge effort that will clamp down on the virus.
But the "panties in a bunch over nothing" statements are completely out-of-line. The only thing that is going to keep Ebola from killing millions and millions of people is a lot of hard work from the medical community and governments, including those in the US.
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