Ebola (2 Viewers)

[mcintyre1]

Meanwhile we are apparently back to zero cases of Ebola in the US.

"Obama's Katrina"

 

[Doug B]

This is like concluding free throws are no longer makeable after a few are missed in a row.

Not at all. Seven out of eight confirmed Ebola cases treated in the U.S. to date have led to full patient recovery. And I prefer to throw out the case of Thomas Duncan, since he was sent home after his initial ER visit and had the symptoms continue unfettered for another ~60 hours.

 

[Henry Ford]

Meanwhile we are apparently back to zero cases of Ebola in the US.

"Obama's Katrina"

It's true. Katrina also caused zero cases of Ebola.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Meanwhile we are apparently back to zero cases of Ebola in the US.

"Obama's Katrina"

It's true. Katrina also caused zero cases of Ebola.

To date.

 

[Doug B]

Meanwhile we are apparently back to zero cases of Ebola in the US.

I knew Pham's status was upgraded from "fair" to "good" ... but is Vinson also out of the woods?

Quoting myself: Amber Vinson appears to be free of the Eboola virus, according to her family.

That was fairly fast for an Ebola patient to recover, right? Onset of fever on 10/13/2014, virus-free on 10/22/2014. She received Brantly's blood, right? And Pham did, too?

Hmmm ... maybe not a cure ... but treatments that are as good as a cure, it seems to me.

 

[Fennis]

"Fire the Ebola Czar. Yet, another example of Obama overreach."

 

[Fennis]

Update: I'm seeing this thing through to the end. Vinson now Ebola free.

Ebola patients treated in US: 8

Patients Infected in Africa: 6

Patients infected in US: 2

Non health care workers infected in US: 0

Patients released: 6

Patients under treatment: 1

Deceased: 1

Current mortality rate of Americans treated in US: 0%.

Current mortality rate of all treated in US: 12.5%

Cured: Amber Vinson (nurse of Duncan); Ashoka Mukpo (cameraman), Unidentified Aid Worker (AKA CIA), Dr. Kent Brantley , Dr. Rick Sacra, Nancy Writebol

Under treatment: Nina Pham (nurse of Duncan);

Deceased: Thomas Duncan

 

[Fennis]

Meanwhile we are apparently back to zero cases of Ebola in the US.

I knew Pham's status was upgraded from "fair" to "good" ... but is Vinson also out of the woods?

Quoting myself: Amber Vinson appears to be free of the Eboola virus, according to her family.

That was fairly fast for an Ebola patient to recover, right? Onset of fever on 10/13/2014, virus-free on 10/22/2014. She received Brantly's blood, right? And Pham did, too?

Hmmm ... maybe not a cure ... but treatments that are as good as a cure, it seems to me.

I would be curious to know what drugs Vinson and Pham received. We know Duncan didn't receive ZMapp due to supply issues and he got brincidofovir, but very late. However, there are several experimental drugs. Seemed like Vinson and Pham reacted very positively and recovered more quickly than the others.

Early treatment may be the key.

 

[HellToupee]

"Fire the Ebola Czar. Yet, another example of Obama overreach."

.There is no denying the ebola czar is a political hack. Politics is politics

 

[HellToupee]

Update: I'm seeing this thing through to the end. Vinson now Ebola free.

Ebola patients treated in US: 8

Patients Infected in Africa: 6

Patients infected in US: 2

Non health care workers infected in US: 0

Patients released: 6

Patients under treatment: 1

Deceased: 1

Current mortality rate of Americans treated in US: 0%.

Current mortality rate of all treated in US: 12.5%

Cured: Amber Vinson (nurse of Duncan); Ashoka Mukpo (cameraman), Unidentified Aid Worker (AKA CIA), Dr. Kent Brantley , Dr. Rick Sacra, Nancy Writebol

Under treatment: Nina Pham (nurse of Duncan);

Deceased: Thomas Duncan

Good stats . This might pass Y2K for overhype

 

[humpback]

Possible case in NYC

 

[timschochet]

Update: I'm seeing this thing through to the end. Vinson now Ebola free.

Ebola patients treated in US: 8

Patients Infected in Africa: 6

Patients infected in US: 2

Non health care workers infected in US: 0

Patients released: 6

Patients under treatment: 1

Deceased: 1

Current mortality rate of Americans treated in US: 0%.

Current mortality rate of all treated in US: 12.5%

Cured: Amber Vinson (nurse of Duncan); Ashoka Mukpo (cameraman), Unidentified Aid Worker (AKA CIA), Dr. Kent Brantley , Dr. Rick Sacra, Nancy Writebol

Under treatment: Nina Pham (nurse of Duncan);

Deceased: Thomas Duncan

Good stats . This might pass Y2K for overhype

No question that it already has.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Update: I'm seeing this thing through to the end. Vinson now Ebola free.

Ebola patients treated in US: 8

Patients Infected in Africa: 6

Patients infected in US: 2

Non health care workers infected in US: 0

Patients released: 6

Patients under treatment: 1

Deceased: 1

Current mortality rate of Americans treated in US: 0%.

Current mortality rate of all treated in US: 12.5%

Cured: Amber Vinson (nurse of Duncan); Ashoka Mukpo (cameraman), Unidentified Aid Worker (AKA CIA), Dr. Kent Brantley , Dr. Rick Sacra, Nancy Writebol

Under treatment: Nina Pham (nurse of Duncan);

Deceased: Thomas Duncan

Good stats . This might pass Y2K for overhype

No question that it already has.

People in Africa might disagree that it's overhyped.

Serious question though, I thought one of the doctors that was rushed back from Africa and treated here didn't make it. By the stats above, that looks incorrect. So they all survived? Why did I think one died?

 

[Doug B]

Possible case in NYC

Jeez. But at least the likely transmission route for this patient is known. Still no social transmissions of the ebola virus.

Also, the experiences of treating Pham and Vinson, plus the others, give this new patient quite a lot of hope, IMHO.

 

[3C's]

Why do people keep bringing up Africa when the first person is talking about here in the US?

 

[TheIronSheik]

Why do people keep bringing up Africa when the first person is talking about here in the US?

Who the hell is the first person?

 

[Doug B]

People in Africa might disagree that it's overhyped.

This has been brought up in this thread a few times, and it's kind of a strawman regarding what is actually being overhyped.

Ebola turning into Captain Trips on American soil, with huge death tolls in the U.S. = overhyped

Ebola as a serious health crisis in three West African nations = underhyped, truth be told

If the point is that Ebola unchecked in West Africa remains an ongoing problem for the United States, then make that point explicit.

 

[TheIronSheik]

People in Africa might disagree that it's overhyped.

This has been brought up in this thread a few times, and it's kind of a strawman regarding what is actually being overhyped.

Ebola turning into Captain Trips on American soil, with huge death tolls in the U.S. = overhyped

Ebola as a serious health crisis in three West African nations = underhyped, truth be told

If the point is that Ebola unchecked in West Africa remains an ongoing problem for the United States, then make that point explicit.

Not really a strawman. A lot of us in this thread have been saying that Ebola, the disease, not the disease as it pertains to us in America, is scary and out of control. That has been our take from the beginning.

 

[Fennis]

Update: I'm seeing this thing through to the end. Vinson now Ebola free.

Ebola patients treated in US: 8

Patients Infected in Africa: 6

Patients infected in US: 2

Non health care workers infected in US: 0

Patients released: 6

Patients under treatment: 1

Deceased: 1

Current mortality rate of Americans treated in US: 0%.

Current mortality rate of all treated in US: 12.5%

Cured: Amber Vinson (nurse of Duncan); Ashoka Mukpo (cameraman), Unidentified Aid Worker (AKA CIA), Dr. Kent Brantley , Dr. Rick Sacra, Nancy Writebol

Under treatment: Nina Pham (nurse of Duncan);

Deceased: Thomas Duncan

Good stats . This might pass Y2K for overhype

No question that it already has.

People in Africa might disagree that it's overhyped.

Serious question though, I thought one of the doctors that was rushed back from Africa and treated here didn't make it. By the stats above, that looks incorrect. So they all survived? Why did I think one died?

I'll try not to take that comment to heart. You should know who I am, I'm kinda a big deal in the ebola groupie world. Come to the next EboCon, I'm moderating a session on celebrities and ebola.

 

[culdeus]

This has all the appearances of becoming Obama's Katrina.

First instance of Katrina in this thread. Ironically 21 days ago which is the incubation period of Ebola?

 

[Henry Ford]

Update: I'm seeing this thing through to the end. Vinson now Ebola free.

Ebola patients treated in US: 8

Patients Infected in Africa: 6

Patients infected in US: 2

Non health care workers infected in US: 0

Patients released: 6

Patients under treatment: 1

Deceased: 1

Current mortality rate of Americans treated in US: 0%.

Current mortality rate of all treated in US: 12.5%

Cured: Amber Vinson (nurse of Duncan); Ashoka Mukpo (cameraman), Unidentified Aid Worker (AKA CIA), Dr. Kent Brantley , Dr. Rick Sacra, Nancy Writebol

Under treatment: Nina Pham (nurse of Duncan);

Deceased: Thomas Duncan

Good stats . This might pass Y2K for overhype

No question that it already has.

People in Africa might disagree that it's overhyped.

Serious question though, I thought one of the doctors that was rushed back from Africa and treated here didn't make it. By the stats above, that looks incorrect. So they all survived? Why did I think one died?

Because otherwise why would the news be screaming EBOLA!!!!! for weeks?

 

[TheIronSheik]

Update: I'm seeing this thing through to the end. Vinson now Ebola free.

Ebola patients treated in US: 8

Patients Infected in Africa: 6

Patients infected in US: 2

Non health care workers infected in US: 0

Patients released: 6

Patients under treatment: 1

Deceased: 1

Current mortality rate of Americans treated in US: 0%.

Current mortality rate of all treated in US: 12.5%

Cured: Amber Vinson (nurse of Duncan); Ashoka Mukpo (cameraman), Unidentified Aid Worker (AKA CIA), Dr. Kent Brantley , Dr. Rick Sacra, Nancy Writebol

Under treatment: Nina Pham (nurse of Duncan);

Deceased: Thomas Duncan

Good stats . This might pass Y2K for overhype

No question that it already has.

People in Africa might disagree that it's overhyped.

Serious question though, I thought one of the doctors that was rushed back from Africa and treated here didn't make it. By the stats above, that looks incorrect. So they all survived? Why did I think one died?

I'll try not to take that comment to heart. You should know who I am, I'm kinda a big deal in the ebola groupie world. Come to the next EboCon, I'm moderating a session on celebrities and ebola.

It was a serious question.

 

[UniAlias]

People in Africa might disagree that it's overhyped.

This has been brought up in this thread a few times, and it's kind of a strawman regarding what is actually being overhyped.

Ebola turning into Captain Trips on American soil, with huge death tolls in the U.S. = overhyped

Ebola as a serious health crisis in three West African nations = underhyped, truth be told

If the point is that Ebola unchecked in West Africa remains an ongoing problem for the United States, then make that point explicit.

Not really a strawman. A lot of us in this thread have been saying that Ebola, the disease, not the disease as it pertains to us in America, is scary and out of control. That has been our take from the beginning.

The very first reply in this thread:

"Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101."

Yeah, you seem real concerned with Africa and not at all worried about how it pertains to America.

 

[Fennis]

Update: I'm seeing this thing through to the end. Vinson now Ebola free.

Ebola patients treated in US: 8

Patients Infected in Africa: 6

Patients infected in US: 2

Non health care workers infected in US: 0

Patients released: 6

Patients under treatment: 1

Deceased: 1

Current mortality rate of Americans treated in US: 0%.

Current mortality rate of all treated in US: 12.5%

Cured: Amber Vinson (nurse of Duncan); Ashoka Mukpo (cameraman), Unidentified Aid Worker (AKA CIA), Dr. Kent Brantley , Dr. Rick Sacra, Nancy Writebol

Under treatment: Nina Pham (nurse of Duncan);

Deceased: Thomas Duncan

Good stats . This might pass Y2K for overhype

No question that it already has.

People in Africa might disagree that it's overhyped.

Serious question though, I thought one of the doctors that was rushed back from Africa and treated here didn't make it. By the stats above, that looks incorrect. So they all survived? Why did I think one died?

I'll try not to take that comment to heart. You should know who I am, I'm kinda a big deal in the ebola groupie world. Come to the next EboCon, I'm moderating a session on celebrities and ebola.

It was a serious question.

sorry, I can't answer the question why you thought a doctor died after being treated in the US.

 

[timschochet]

People in Africa might disagree that it's overhyped.

This has been brought up in this thread a few times, and it's kind of a strawman regarding what is actually being overhyped.

Ebola turning into Captain Trips on American soil, with huge death tolls in the U.S. = overhyped

Ebola as a serious health crisis in three West African nations = underhyped, truth be told

If the point is that Ebola unchecked in West Africa remains an ongoing problem for the United States, then make that point explicit.

I'm not even sure it's under hyped there, truth be told.

I haven't spent any time in the last few years reading about all the problems that Liberia and the other two nations have, but i'm guessing the major ones are still prevalent: incredible poverty, lack of sanitation, famine, and a host of diseases that come along with all of that. And of course AIDs. If Ebola stays somewhat within it's current parameters, then it really shouldn't be focused on the main issue of concern even over there.

 

[TheIronSheik]

People in Africa might disagree that it's overhyped.

This has been brought up in this thread a few times, and it's kind of a strawman regarding what is actually being overhyped.

Ebola turning into Captain Trips on American soil, with huge death tolls in the U.S. = overhyped

Ebola as a serious health crisis in three West African nations = underhyped, truth be told

If the point is that Ebola unchecked in West Africa remains an ongoing problem for the United States, then make that point explicit.

Not really a strawman. A lot of us in this thread have been saying that Ebola, the disease, not the disease as it pertains to us in America, is scary and out of control. That has been our take from the beginning.

The very first reply in this thread:

"Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101."

Yeah, you seem real concerned with Africa and not at all worried about how it pertains to America.

Not sure how that post contradicts my statement. Again, I said I'm worried about Ebola. My post was saying that we should be trying to contain it, and not spread it around.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Update: I'm seeing this thing through to the end. Vinson now Ebola free.

Ebola patients treated in US: 8

Patients Infected in Africa: 6

Patients infected in US: 2

Non health care workers infected in US: 0

Patients released: 6

Patients under treatment: 1

Deceased: 1

Current mortality rate of Americans treated in US: 0%.

Current mortality rate of all treated in US: 12.5%

Cured: Amber Vinson (nurse of Duncan); Ashoka Mukpo (cameraman), Unidentified Aid Worker (AKA CIA), Dr. Kent Brantley , Dr. Rick Sacra, Nancy Writebol

Under treatment: Nina Pham (nurse of Duncan);

Deceased: Thomas Duncan

Good stats . This might pass Y2K for overhype

No question that it already has.

People in Africa might disagree that it's overhyped.

Serious question though, I thought one of the doctors that was rushed back from Africa and treated here didn't make it. By the stats above, that looks incorrect. So they all survived? Why did I think one died?

I'll try not to take that comment to heart. You should know who I am, I'm kinda a big deal in the ebola groupie world. Come to the next EboCon, I'm moderating a session on celebrities and ebola.

It was a serious question.

sorry, I can't answer the question why you thought a doctor died after being treated in the US.

My bad. What I meant was, did someone from another country get flown back to their homeland and die? Obviously I know you can't answer why I thought that. I was trying to ask if someone returned from Africa to another country and died. I just went about asking poorly.

 

[jamny]

Saw this reply to the NY story on facebook:

If this thing hits NY, there's no turning back in a few hours will be all over the world.

 

[culdeus]

Saw this reply to the NY story on facebook:

If this thing hits NY, there's no turning back in a few hours will be all over the world.

They will put it on the space shuttle?

 

[TheIronSheik]

Saw this reply to the NY story on facebook:

If this thing hits NY, there's no turning back in a few hours will be all over the world.

They will put it on the space shuttle?

I don't think they fly the one in New York anymore.

 

[Doug B]

People in Africa might disagree that it's overhyped.

This has been brought up in this thread a few times, and it's kind of a strawman regarding what is actually being overhyped.

Ebola turning into Captain Trips on American soil, with huge death tolls in the U.S. = overhyped

Ebola as a serious health crisis in three West African nations = underhyped, truth be told

If the point is that Ebola unchecked in West Africa remains an ongoing problem for the United States, then make that point explicit.

I'm not even sure it's under hyped there, truth be told.

Point granted. I was trying to make a fine point with a blunt needle. How's this?

- The American public, collectively, worries too much about Ebola in the U.S.

- The American public, collectively, doesn't even have the West African Ebola crisis on its radar.

 

[bagger]

This is like concluding free throws are no longer makeable after a few are missed in a row.

Not at all. Seven out of eight confirmed Ebola cases treated in the U.S. to date have led to full patient recovery. And I prefer to throw out the case of Thomas Duncan, since he was sent home after his initial ER visit and had the symptoms continue unfettered for another ~60 hours.

seems scientific.I often like to take out RBs' longest runs when I am making my point against them.

 

[Doug B]

Serious question though, I thought one of the doctors that was rushed back from Africa and treated here didn't make it. By the stats above, that looks incorrect. So they all survived? Why did I think one died?

Here's an NBC News article that confirms Fennis' info, plus gives the current numbers of quarantined individuals and their statuses.

As you mentioned, you might be thinking of someone in another Western country. I know Spain and Denmark have/had Ebola patients under care. Gotta check around a little bit.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Serious question though, I thought one of the doctors that was rushed back from Africa and treated here didn't make it. By the stats above, that looks incorrect. So they all survived? Why did I think one died?

Here's an NBC News article that confirms Fennis' info, plus gives the current numbers of quarantined individuals and their statuses.

As you mentioned, you might be thinking of someone in another Western country. I know Spain and Denmark have/had Ebola patients under care. Gotta check around a little bit.

Yeah. And I want to point out, I'm not doubting Fennis in anyway. That's not what I meant at all.

 

[Doug B]

This is like concluding free throws are no longer makeable after a few are missed in a row.

Not at all. Seven out of eight confirmed Ebola cases treated in the U.S. to date have led to full patient recovery. And I prefer to throw out the case of Thomas Duncan, since he was sent home after his initial ER visit and had the symptoms continue unfettered for another ~60 hours.

seems scientific.I often like to take out RBs' longest runs when I am making my point against them.

I think the fact that Duncan's treatment was delayed so long trumps pretty much all other factors. His case is very much the odd one out among all the cases treated on American soil. Also, Duncan was treated in a facility that was using ad hoc procedures the whole time through, and had trouble getting vetted, consistent information to his caregivers.

 

[Doug B]

Yeah. And I want to point out, I'm not doubting Fennis in anyway. That's not what I meant at all.

Understood. Oddly enough, I was comparing that article to Fennis' info to make sure NBC News was accurate

Get the hook on Dr. Sanjay Gupta ... get Fennis on the set

 

[jamny]

The recent Frontline episode on Ebola was really interesting.

 

[Doug B]

I'm not even sure it's under hyped there, truth be told.


I haven't spent any time in the last few years reading about all the problems that Liberia and the other two nations have, but i'm guessing the major ones are still prevalent: incredible poverty, lack of sanitation, famine, and a host of diseases that come along with all of that. And of course AIDs. If Ebola stays somewhat within it's current parameters, then it really shouldn't be focused on the main issue of concern even over there.

Not long after I read your post, I ran across this at The Daily Beast:

What’s Worse Than Ebola in West Africa? Almost Everything

Ebola’s getting the world’s attention right now, but long-standing programs against diseases like malaria and HIV/AIDS are being neglected and thousands more may die in the meantime.

 

[Doug B]

The recent Frontline episode on Ebola was really interesting.

What did you get out of it? Might not get a chance to see it.

 

[Fennis]

Yeah. And I want to point out, I'm not doubting Fennis in anyway. That's not what I meant at all.

Understood. Oddly enough, I was comparing that article to Fennis' info to make sure NBC News was accurate

Get the hook on Dr. Sanjay Gupta ... get Fennis on the set

 

[Fennis]

I'm not even sure it's under hyped there, truth be told.


I haven't spent any time in the last few years reading about all the problems that Liberia and the other two nations have, but i'm guessing the major ones are still prevalent: incredible poverty, lack of sanitation, famine, and a host of diseases that come along with all of that. And of course AIDs. If Ebola stays somewhat within it's current parameters, then it really shouldn't be focused on the main issue of concern even over there.

Not long after I read your post, I ran across this at The Daily Beast:

What’s Worse Than Ebola in West Africa? Almost Everything

Ebola’s getting the world’s attention right now, but long-standing programs against diseases like malaria and HIV/AIDS are being neglected and thousands more may die in the meantime.

I don't mean to be flippant, but (West) Africa is hell.

I wish more was done by the west to fix it, especially since many of the problems are caused by colonialism. Progress is being made, I guess we need reminders of the good too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwII-dwh-bk

 

[ArbyMelt]

RED ALERT NYC

 

[Parrothead]

RED ALERT NYC

Is it is in the East River yet? that would be bad

 

[urbanhack]

People in Africa might disagree that it's overhyped.

This has been brought up in this thread a few times, and it's kind of a strawman regarding what is actually being overhyped.

Ebola turning into Captain Trips on American soil, with huge death tolls in the U.S. = overhyped

Ebola as a serious health crisis in three West African nations = underhyped, truth be told

If the point is that Ebola unchecked in West Africa remains an ongoing problem for the United States, then make that point explicit.

Not really a strawman. A lot of us in this thread have been saying that Ebola, the disease, not the disease as it pertains to us in America, is scary and out of control. That has been our take from the beginning.

The very first reply in this thread:

"Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101."

Yeah, you seem real concerned with Africa and not at all worried about how it pertains to America.

Again, I said I'm worried about Ebola. My post was saying that we should be trying to contain it, and not spread it around.

Who is trying to spread it around????

 

[mcintyre1]

I liked this quote from an article on the NYC doctor:

"Oh, lovely," said Brooke Christensen, who lives in the building, after learning her neighbor was taken away for Ebola testing.

"I'm not concerned," she said. "I've had no fluid exchange with my neighbors."

 

[TheIronSheik]

People in Africa might disagree that it's overhyped.

This has been brought up in this thread a few times, and it's kind of a strawman regarding what is actually being overhyped.

Ebola turning into Captain Trips on American soil, with huge death tolls in the U.S. = overhyped

Ebola as a serious health crisis in three West African nations = underhyped, truth be told

If the point is that Ebola unchecked in West Africa remains an ongoing problem for the United States, then make that point explicit.

Not really a strawman. A lot of us in this thread have been saying that Ebola, the disease, not the disease as it pertains to us in America, is scary and out of control. That has been our take from the beginning.

The very first reply in this thread:

"Why were they allowing people to go there to treat infected people and then return home? This seems like basic Outbreak Rules 101."

Yeah, you seem real concerned with Africa and not at all worried about how it pertains to America.

Again, I said I'm worried about Ebola. My post was saying that we should be trying to contain it, and not spread it around.

Who is trying to spread it around????

Going to infected areas, working on infected patients, then flying back to a different part of the Earth. It's really not that complicated. Keep up.

 

[UniAlias]

Just trying to understand your position on this Sheik. So you're okay with the U.S. sending medical professionals to Africa to assist with the Ebola outbreak, but then they have to stay there? Should we require that all medical personnel do a full 21 day isolated quarantine in Africa before coming home?

 

[3C's]

Just trying to understand your position on this Sheik. So you're okay with the U.S. sending medical professionals to Africa to assist with the Ebola outbreak, but then they have to stay there? Should we require that all medical personnel do a full 21 day isolated quarantine in Africa before coming home?

Screw em, they chose to go there, they can stay there! When no one else will go over there that's their problem.

 

[msommer]

Just trying to understand your position on this Sheik. So you're okay with the U.S. sending medical professionals to Africa to assist with the Ebola outbreak, but then they have to stay there? Should we require that all medical personnel do a full 21 day isolated quarantine in Africa before coming home?

Screw em, they chose to go there, they can stay there! When no one else will go over there that's their problem.

Interestingly Cuba has the largest contingent of heakth care professionals in situ battling Ebola

 

[msommer]

Serious question though, I thought one of the doctors that was rushed back from Africa and treated here didn't make it. By the stats above, that looks incorrect. So they all survived? Why did I think one died?

Here's an NBC News article that confirms Fennis' info, plus gives the current numbers of quarantined individuals and their statuses.

As you mentioned, you might be thinking of someone in another Western country. I know Spain and Denmark have/had Ebola patients under care. Gotta check around a little bit.

Spain and Norway actually. The Danish case was false alarm.

The Norwegian nurse got the last dose of Zmapp in existence,actually