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Edge leaving Indy (1 Viewer)

Jaguars..... 100%

anyone want to take the odds? He's been lobbying to get in a sunshiney place that's nice and peaceful. He can't go to Miami, San Diego, Tampa Bay.... next best thing? Jacksonville.

Arizona is not where he wants to play the rest of his career. Both teams are arguably on the rise, but who has the better history of winning? (actually that's kind of sad)

 
Jaguars..... 100%

anyone want to take the odds? He's been lobbying to get in a sunshiney place that's nice and peaceful. He can't go to Miami, San Diego, Tampa Bay.... next best thing? Jacksonville.

Arizona is not where he wants to play the rest of his career. Both teams are arguably on the rise, but who has the better history of winning? (actually that's kind of sad)
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:confused: Emmit put up O.K. #s in 'Zona when he was 53 years old. Not that I'd project 1400/12, but 1000/7 seems doable when you concider the passing attack there in the desert. Not quite what the dynasty owners are looking for out of their stud, but still worth keeping on the roster.

 
I'm not sure why I'm responding considering there seems to be no source other than some half drunken dimwit of a fan speculating...but here I go!

 
Much speculation here, but I think Edge ends up in Minnesota. He will be excited to join his ex-Hurricane teammate Ray Lewis, once Minnesota acquires Ray Lewis.

 
Denny Green already stated that he wasn't going to spend big money on a free agent RB. I don't have a link but I know he said that a week or so ago.

 
this has to hurt edge owners in dynasty :ouch:
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You mean a rumor made up by a baord member hurts his value?
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yes it does. Any rumor of Edge going to AZ hurts the owners holding Edge and trying to move him NOW. When this all gets sorted out, who knows what will happen. But, it does negatively affect Edge's current value, just as it the rumor had him going to number of other teams.
 
Denny Green already stated that he wasn't going to spend big money on a free agent RB. I don't have a link but I know he said that a week or so ago.
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I started that thread.Basically Denny said "never say never" with regard to bringing in a free agent runner, but it certainlly didn't sound very likely.

I would expect the Cardinals to aggressively pursue free agent O-lineman and a DT in free agency. Green said he loves the depth at QB, TE and OL in this draft. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Cardinals picks through the first three rounds were selections at those positions (Maybe not in that order though.)

Supposedly, I have heard that Warner is lobbying the Cardinals to bring in Edge. That's of the unconfirmed rumor variety. It sounds like the Cardinals have other FA priorities even if true.

 
Edge doesn't seem like a Denny back. Denny loves speed backs, his draft history has shown this.

Robert Smith

Michael Bennett

JJ Arrington

 
You guys are sloooow .... :hophead:

For Cards, pursuing Edgerrin James is a must

Feb. 6, 2006 11:23 AM

Just what direction the Arizona Cardinals go in the first round of the April draft is still up for debate within the organization. But the Cardinals could eliminate one position of need by finally going out and offering a great player the big bucks that Michael Bidwill had said the team would spend once they got a new stadium.

That player is Indianapolis running back Edgerrin James, who said this week that he does not expect to be back with the Colts.

James is one of the best running backs in the NFL. He is 28 years old and coming off of a 1,506-yard rushing season. And unlike the signing of Emmitt Smith, which was done for publicity purposes, James actually has plenty left in the tank and would be worth a three- or four-year deal. advertisement

Coming off a 5-11 season, the Cardinals could make a big splash going into a new building by bringing in a running back that would add immediate legitimacy to the Cards' putrid rushing attack.

Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner told Xtra Sports 910 from Detroit on Friday that he "would lobby the organization to go after James and do anything he could to bring him in," and that "any team in the league would want a guy like Edgerrin".

The Cardinals have never had a great running back in their time in Arizona. As a matter of fact, they have never had a good running back. They have had bad backs, really bad backs - and really, really bad backs. That includes the two current running backs, Marcel Shipp and JJ Arrington.

There is no question the Cardinals have to look at brining in a new player to lead the rushing attack. If Arrington is a bust, which is what it looked like in his first year, it's not that big of a deal. He wasn't a first-round pick so the organization did not spend a ton of money on him. It's a lot easier to have a guy not pan out in the second round (which is where Arrington was picked) than in the first. In some ways Arrington resembles Leeland McElroy, a former second-round pick of the Cardinals who flopped.

By bringing in James, the Cardinals can than scratch running back off the draft board and use the first pick on an offensive lineman, quarterback or stud defensive player. They will not have to look at running back the entire draft.

James has played seven years in the NFL. He has amassed 9,226 yards and has eclipsed the 1,500-yard plateau four times in his career. He has won two rushing titles and this month is headed to his fourth Pro Bowl. This past season James was franchised tagged by Indianapolis and played for $9.1 million. He will become unrestricted in March, and all indications are that the Colts will use the tag on fellow wide receiver Reggie Wayne and let James walk.

The Cardinals will go shopping this free-agency period with about $20 million. Why not spend a good portion of it on James? The Cardinals plan on using some of the $20 million to re-sign Warner, sign a free-agent offensive lineman and sign a free-agent defensive lineman. The Cardinals can accomplish all of that and still have the means necessary to ink James to a long-term deal. James will likely want between $10 million and $15 million up front in signing bonus and an average annual salary of around $8 million.

And he will be worth every penny, especially if his signing allows the team to draft an offensive lineman in the first or second round. If the Cardinals can upgrade its line and have James running behind it, they could end up with one of the more potent offenses in the NFL. With James leading the rushing attack and Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin forming the top-receiving tandem in the league, the Cardinals could break in their new stadium with a high powered offense capable of putting a lot of points on that new scoreboard.

Just how much interest James would have in Arizona is anyone's guess. He has been on a highly competitive Colts team and may want to sign with a team closer to winning a championship. But head coach Denny Green could sell James on playing in a warm weather climate, on a natural surface in a new state-of-the-art facility, and on being the guy to turn the organization around. A lot of it may come down to money. Figuring this will likely be his last big contract, James is going to want to cash in, and if Arizona can outbid even the more competitive teams that will have interest in him, they could land the star back.

The Bidwill family has come a long way in how they do business. They have spent good money on free agents and draft picks and have even offered two-tiered signing bonuses and escalators in the past few years. Now it's time to take it up another notch. It's time to land a prized free agent that is a difference maker. It's time to outbid the other teams that will show interest in James and show the fans that they meant what they said when they talked about spending once the stadium vote was passed.

The Cardinals will be making more money in the next year than they have ever made before. With luxury suites, naming rights, signage, concessions, etc, the team will be raking in the bucks. Plus the value of the franchise is going way up the second the doors to the new stadium opens. So is it too much to ask the organization to bring in a big-time player that is still in his prime?

The Bidwills have always said they want to win as much as anyone else. Now is the perfect time to show they mean it. In the form of money to Edgerrin James.
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Speculation (or advocacy) by a newspaper columnist isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

Nothing to see here, move along.

:IBTL:

 
Speculation (or advocacy) by a newspaper columnist isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

Nothing to see here, move along.

:IBTL:
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I pretty much agree, but it does mention Warner's response to the question and it IS a bit more than a rumor started by a FBG poster.
 
Why would Edge to Arizona necessarily kill his value? Think back to Warner and Faulk -- Warner is signed, Edge has good hands, both Arizona and the Super Bowl Champion Rams had unimpressive offensive lines -- I could think of worse situations for Edge.

That said, I think he'll either be resigned by the Colts or end up in Jacksonville.

 
Jaguars..... 100%

anyone want to take the odds? He's been lobbying to get in a sunshiney place that's nice and peaceful. He can't go to Miami, San Diego, Tampa Bay.... next best thing? Jacksonville.

Arizona is not where he wants to play the rest of his career. Both teams are arguably on the rise, but who has the better history of winning? (actually that's kind of sad)
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100%? I'm your huckleberry.
 
Jaguars..... 100%

anyone want to take the odds? He's been lobbying to get in a sunshiney place that's nice and peaceful. He can't go to Miami, San Diego, Tampa Bay.... next best thing? Jacksonville.

Arizona is not where he wants to play the rest of his career. Both teams are arguably on the rise, but who has the better history of winning? (actually that's kind of sad)
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I'm in total agreement with this. Edge has been saying LOUDLY that he wants to return to the Sunshine state for more than a year. My guess is Jax lets Fragile Freddy go for what they can get for him and take Edge. Ricky Williams will end up in Arizona.
 
Anyone who says Edge in AZ is bad does not have the vision to see a team on the rise.

Arizona will make a big splash this year in th Free Agent market and be a very competitive team next year. With thier passing game an upgraded onlin Edge would flourish in AZ. He would also be playing in the NFC vs AFC. He schedule could be easier than it has ever been.

 
Anyone who says Edge in AZ is bad does not have the vision to see a team on the rise.

Arizona will make a big splash this year in th Free Agent market and be a very competitive team next year. With thier passing game an upgraded onlin Edge would flourish in AZ. He would also be playing in the NFC vs AFC. He schedule could be easier than it has ever been.
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I'm not sure the NFC is significantly worse against the run than the AFC. And, I don't see Arizona's opponents next season being much easier against the run than Indy's.
 
Jaguars..... 100%

anyone want to take the odds?  He's been lobbying to get in a sunshiney place that's nice and peaceful.  He can't go to Miami, San Diego, Tampa Bay.... next best thing?  Jacksonville.

Arizona is not where he wants to play the rest of his career.  Both teams are arguably on the rise, but who has the better history of winning?  (actually that's kind of sad)
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MLB, I have been reading your opinions recently and I'm curious as to how your position is now at 100 % Guaranteed Jacksonville???Here's my post from Jan 18th.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...dpost&p=4197252

Here's your post on Feb 3rd...

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...dpost&p=4281799

Notice the post 3 replies up...

Now you're 100% just 2 weeks later. I'm just curious as to what swayed your position so far to one side.

Going from "Edge in Jax would be money to Edge is in Jax 100% guaranteed."

Personally, listening to the recent interviews here in Indy, my Edge meter is moving closer to Indy than it has been in some time. At one time, I was heavily favoring Jax, but now it seems Polian just might find a way to do the right thing.

Thanks for sharing. :popcorn:

 
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Much speculation here, but I think Edge ends up in Minnesota. He will be excited to join his ex-Hurricane teammate Ray Lewis, once Minnesota acquires Ray Lewis.
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Close.When Ray goes to Jacksonville, Edge will then be happy to join him there.

 
Denny Green already stated that he wasn't going to spend big money on a free agent RB.
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I'm curious about how many teams ever say they're going to spend big bucks on a free agent in any position, before that team actually goes out and spends the big bucks. Most teams probably don't tell us what their real intentions are. From a negotiation standpoint, and from a standpoint of a general desire to hold the cards close to your chest, many teams would rather provide the public misdirection about their true intentions.
 
Jaguars..... 100%

anyone want to take the odds?  He's been lobbying to get in a sunshiney place that's nice and peaceful.  He can't go to Miami, San Diego, Tampa Bay.... next best thing?  Jacksonville.

Arizona is not where he wants to play the rest of his career.  Both teams are arguably on the rise, but who has the better history of winning?  (actually that's kind of sad)
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MLB, I have been reading your opinions recently and I'm curious as to how your position is now at 100 % Guaranteed Jacksonville???Here's my post from Jan 18th.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...dpost&p=4197252

Here's your post on Feb 3rd...

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...dpost&p=4281799

Notice the post 3 replies up...

Now you're 100% just 2 weeks later. I'm just curious as to what swayed your position so far to one side.

Going from "Edge in Jax would be money to Edge is in Jax 100% guaranteed."

Personally, listening to the recent interviews here in Indy, my Edge meter is moving closer to Indy than it has been in some time. At one time, I was heavily favoring Jax, but now it seems Polian just might find a way to do the right thing.

Thanks for sharing. :popcorn:
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That's because that was the first I had even thought about it (when you brought it up), and once I thought about it, it matched every parameter I could think of in terms of what Edge has said that he wants, and what Jacksonville is looking for.There isn't nearly a better deal out there for him anywhere unless Miami lets him in... since Ronnie Brown is bound to destruct by week 6 next season if he's carrying a full load.

 
I think Edge in AZ will still make him a very good RB as far as FF, thanks to the WR weapons they have in Boldin and Fitz and the fact that IF AZ is able to upgrade their OL he could be very strong.

That being said, I don't see any mention of the Panthers in the mix to sign Edge. He makes a ton of sense for the Panthers (my team) that loves to run the ball so he would be featured by our offense and the ability of Steve Smith to keep Ds to stack the line against him can only help him. Carolina is not FL, but it is pretty close and the Panthers play in the NFC so the road to the SB is a little easier than the AFC and I think playing for a playoff contender like the Panthers may be attractive to him. Last year, the Panthers made a big splash with Lucas and Wahle right out of the gate, so it will be interesting to see how much of a play they make for him.

 
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