Edgerrin James (1 Viewer)

[Steel Town]

I haven't had a chance to see James play this year, but drafted him as my rb3. I know Hightower is vulturing tds, however Edge scored twice last week despite having only 9 carries. I was looking for any insights on how much of a factor James is in the Cardinal offense. Are the Cards a pass first team now, or was the Jet game somewhat of an abberation? I am a little reluctant to keep James plugged in after a 9 carry performance, but have to think the Cards look to run more in the future.

 

[tombonneau]

I own him as well as a RB3. He looks pretty good when I see him in games, but to answer your question, this looks like a pass first team. Though with the The Human Turnover Machine making his return last week, maybe the Wiz will try to run the ball more.

Hightower is the biggest concern with vulturing, but I'm expecting 80-90 yards a game from Edge with the occasional TD. Certainly nothing you want to consistently rely on as a RB2, but the ideal RB3 bye week filler.

 

[TheWick]

They were down big in that game REAL quick and were throwing it around the rest of the game trying to catch up. Expect more than 9 carries a game from him for sure.

 

[Nate]

The lack of carries against the Jets was an aberration, IMO. The Cards D had no answer for Favre and Arizona had no choice but to throw downfield all day. They had 3 100yd receivers! That just doesn't happen often.

That said, Arizona may be a pass-first team, but I'm not ready to demote Edge to RB3 just yet...

He's currently:

10th in the NFL in carries

12th in rushing yards

4th in red zone carries

Obviously the most alarming stat was that, prior to week 4, Edge didn't have a single carry inside the 5. Against the Jets, the Cards gave him 2 carries inside the 5 (3 counting the 2pt conversion), and he got into the end zone on every single carry. If I were an Edge owner that would be very encouraging to me.

He's got all kinds of opportunities; I think he'll be a middle of the pack RB2 this season.

 

[grumpy]

The lack of carries against the Jets was an aberration, IMO. The Cards D had no answer for Favre and Arizona had no choice but to throw downfield all day. They had 3 100yd receivers! That just doesn't happen often.

That said, Arizona may be a pass-first team, but I'm not ready to demote Edge to RB3 just yet...

He's currently:

10th in the NFL in carries

12th in rushing yards

4th in red zone carries

Obviously the most alarming stat was that, prior to week 4, Edge didn't have a single carry inside the 5. Against the Jets, the Cards gave him 2 carries inside the 5 (3 counting the 2pt conversion), and he got into the end zone on every single carry. If I were an Edge owner that would be very encouraging to me.

He's got all kinds of opportunities; I think he'll be a middle of the pack RB2 this season.

Love those stats! Prior to this game I was actually looking to deal him--unsuccessfully.Now's the question though--Buffalo is not a bad run defense this year, until last week. I'd planned on sitting Edge this week until Steven Jackson finally found his game against them--reckon it's time to reconsider!

 

[hostile]

The lack of carries against the Jets was an aberration, IMO. The Cards D had no answer for Favre and Arizona had no choice but to throw downfield all day. They had 3 100yd receivers! That just doesn't happen often.

That said, Arizona may be a pass-first team, but I'm not ready to demote Edge to RB3 just yet...

He's currently:

10th in the NFL in carries

12th in rushing yards

4th in red zone carries

Obviously the most alarming stat was that, prior to week 4, Edge didn't have a single carry inside the 5. Against the Jets, the Cards gave him 2 carries inside the 5 (3 counting the 2pt conversion), and he got into the end zone on every single carry. If I were an Edge owner that would be very encouraging to me.

He's got all kinds of opportunities; I think he'll be a middle of the pack RB2 this season.

I hadnt looked up those stats, but indeed, encouraging.I drafted Edge in the 5th as my RB2/3 (matchup guy), and was certain that Hightower would not be a factor - how wrong I was. I picked up Hightower anyways, and have since been very worried about my Edge choice.

I have shopped him around, and NO ONE wants him, unless I trade him for someone like Norwood or less, so I think he is seriously undervalued.

Considering his level of production recently and the potential moving fwd (especially considering the NFC West is so weak vs the run), he may be a guy to simply hang on to and either sell high, or just get over-ADP production out of.

 

[Nate]

I hadnt looked up those stats, but indeed, encouraging.I drafted Edge in the 5th as my RB2/3 (matchup guy), and was certain that Hightower would not be a factor - how wrong I was. I picked up Hightower anyways, and have since been very worried about my Edge choice.I have shopped him around, and NO ONE wants him, unless I trade him for someone like Norwood or less, so I think he is seriously undervalued.Considering his level of production recently and the potential moving fwd (especially considering the NFC West is so weak vs the run), he may be a guy to simply hang on to and either sell high, or just get over-ADP production out of.

Yeah, trading away Edge right now would be a horrible idea, IMO. His perceived value is in the basement, I seriously doubt anyone would get anything of value for him. Better to stash him away until he puts a couple of good games together and then try to move him.

 

[mmarsian]

Just for info on what he's going for:

I just struck a deal today:

I gave Edgerrin and Julius Jones and got Steven Jackson.

 

[I Am Rick James]

Nice, but I doubt that will happen very often

 

[Nate]

Just for info on what he's going for:I just struck a deal today:I gave Edgerrin and Julius Jones and got Steven Jackson.

:(

 

[cowboyz]

wasn't kris jenkins out though?

 

[hostile]

Just for info on what he's going for:I just struck a deal today:I gave Edgerrin and Julius Jones and got Steven Jackson.

:(

My thoughts exactly...Were you at least wearing a ski mask when you clicked "accept"?

 

[Da Guru]

I have watched a couple of the Cards games this year and James seems to be running with more power than ever..maybe not quite as fast but he is knocking people backwards. James bulled his way in for two Tds and a two point conversion against the Jets. James could easily have 6 Tds already this year had Hightower not been given 4... 1-2 yarders.

Actually the way James runs now he could be the goal-line short yardage back and have Hightower get the between the 20s stuff. I can see James becoming a Marcus Allen type plunger for a couple of seasons if he leaves Zona after this year.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Currently trying to trade Edge for Dwayne Bowe - Edge is my RB3 behind Lynch and Turner and with Slaton emerging into an RB3 himself, he becomes expendable.

Plus coming off a 2 TD week, this seems like like a good week to sell Edge high. I just don't see a lot of explosive-type upside you'd want in a RB2. Good RB3 though.

 

[Traders2001]

The lack of carries against the Jets was an aberration, IMO. The Cards D had no answer for Favre and Arizona had no choice but to throw downfield all day. They had 3 100yd receivers! That just doesn't happen often.

That said, Arizona may be a pass-first team, but I'm not ready to demote Edge to RB3 just yet...

He's currently:

10th in the NFL in carries

12th in rushing yards

4th in red zone carries

Obviously the most alarming stat was that, prior to week 4, Edge didn't have a single carry inside the 5. Against the Jets, the Cards gave him 2 carries inside the 5 (3 counting the 2pt conversion), and he got into the end zone on every single carry. If I were an Edge owner that would be very encouraging to me.

He's got all kinds of opportunities; I think he'll be a middle of the pack RB2 this season.

It s easy to get in when the other team leads by 31 and plays dime from the 3 yard line . The game was a blowout , in close games you will see Hightower getting every goal line carries.

 

[Maven]

I was able to get Kellen Winslow for him, straight up.

 

[hostile]

It s easy to get in when the other team leads by 31 and plays dime from the 3 yard line . The game was a blowout , in close games you will see Hightower getting every goal line carries.

This is what worries me.

 

[BigRed]

Are the Cards a pass first team now,

? "now" - ?He is a weak RB2 and only passable "filler" because most weeks he will give you 75 yds-ish but not score, and catch few balls. Don't know how your league works, but in mine 7 pts from a player pretty much sucks, unless it's a PK.

 

[Binky The Doormat]

It s easy to get in when the other team leads by 31 and plays dime from the 3 yard line . The game was a blowout , in close games you will see Hightower getting every goal line carries.

This is what worries me.

This got to me quick. It was clear after even Week 2 that he was not going to get any goal line carries and was unlikely to score from anywhere outside of that range. A few catches - well, if few means 1 or 2 a game (we give 1 pt. for every 3 rec.). I traded him for Santonio Holmes. Hasn't worked out on my side yet, but I think it has a good chance.

 

[mmarsian]

Just for info on what he's going for:I just struck a deal today:I gave Edgerrin and Julius Jones and got Steven Jackson.

My thoughts exactly...Were you at least wearing a ski mask when you clicked "accept"?

Well, Julius has had two 25+ point games in our league. Add to that Edgerrin's nice game last week and the fact that Jackson was pretty much the only decent RB the other owner had (Mendenhall, F. Taylor, and M. Moore). He said he would accept the trade so long as it was finalized before this week's games. I said GREAT! I can take having to sit SJax through his bye week this week. It's already been approved and awaiting finalization.I'll now have Barber, Graham, and Sjax as my RBs. Money.

 

[Nate]

The lack of carries against the Jets was an aberration, IMO. The Cards D had no answer for Favre and Arizona had no choice but to throw downfield all day. They had 3 100yd receivers! That just doesn't happen often.

That said, Arizona may be a pass-first team, but I'm not ready to demote Edge to RB3 just yet...

He's currently:

10th in the NFL in carries

12th in rushing yards

4th in red zone carries

Obviously the most alarming stat was that, prior to week 4, Edge didn't have a single carry inside the 5. Against the Jets, the Cards gave him 2 carries inside the 5 (3 counting the 2pt conversion), and he got into the end zone on every single carry. If I were an Edge owner that would be very encouraging to me.

He's got all kinds of opportunities; I think he'll be a middle of the pack RB2 this season.

It s easy to get in when the other team leads by 31 and plays dime from the 3 yard line . The game was a blowout , in close games you will see Hightower getting every goal line carries.

XArizona, up by one score in the 2nd quarter, gives Edge the ball on the 1yd line and he scores the TD. At that point Edge is 4/4 on getting into the end zone on carries inside the 5.

3rd quarter, again up by one score, the Cards give James the ball again on the 5 (he got 3 yards).

To contrast, Hightower had 3 carries in the first half, when the game was still close. One was a great 17yd TD run. But that was the one and only time Hightower even touched the ball inside the Bills red zone before the game was totally in hand. Up by 3 scores in the 4th, Hightower carried 3 straight times, starting at the Bills 10, and punched it in.

Hightower will obviously get his; but Arizona is not afraid to give James the ball on the goal line in a tight game.

Carries:

Edge: 21

Hightower: 7

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

JJ Arrington was getting time in the backfield as well, in their shotgun quick huddle formation.

Not great for James owners. Edge is clearly the lead back, but the other two backs have roles that diminish Edge's fantasy value.