Eli is better than Peyton.... (1 Viewer)

[KellysHeroes]

Peyton will finish his career with many more Yards / TDs / QB Ratings... and whatever than Eli; but with 2:40 left in the SB and you need a TD... there is no question now that you much rather have Eli than Peyton behind center.

In 10 yrs... Manning has only made a few comebacks in the Post-Season in my memory... against the Pats (and I'm taking anything away from that performance; it was great) and maybe you want to count SB 41 where Devin Hester was the only offense the Bears had.

But, every other game I can think of that the Colts win in the Post-Season, the Colts built a double digit lead early and just rode the wave home. The Knock on Peyton from his younger days is true; the guy crumbles under pressure... maybe not so much in the regular season, but it is a fact in the Post-Season.

This Post-Season; Eli had to bring his team back at some point in all four games.... ON THE ROAD.

Congrats to Eli... I'm sure this is the 12th thread about him in 2 days... But I'm so happy the critics have been silenced; I have never once said anything bad about him since entering the league...

People that call up Sports Talk Radio Shows like Mike and The MD early this season and proclaimed that Eli will never lead them to the Championship in his career and the Giants need to move on from him should feel like azzez today (I must admit, I even questioned if the SB was in his cards).

Just a Great job done by Eli / the whole Giants Team / the staff / everybody

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

How does Eli having a great run have any correlation with Peyton Manning?

Eli did a great job in this game and in every game in the playoffs but I'm not going to say he's better than Peyton Manning.

Peyton Manning has had a great career and has many big wins himself.

 

[KellysHeroes]

How does Eli having a great run have any correlation with Peyton Manning?Eli did a great job in this game and in every game in the playoffs but I'm not going to say he's better than Peyton Manning.Peyton Manning has had a great career and has many big wins himself.

Very true... but how many Comback Post-Season wins does he have? IMO, he only has that Great Game @ the Pats last yr.... other than that, the guy falls apart when his team needs him. Peyton is a great player, he will finish with top 3 QB #s if not the #1 QB in terms of #s and stats. And thankfully he does have that 1 SB win or else he would be another Dan Marino. But the guy who may not have the great stats however he gets the job done when he has too is the better QB.

 

[Yitbos69]

 

[GroveDiesel]

Ok

 

[fsufan]

i have been waiting for this thread

 

[Sabertooth]

Eli didn't look very clutch when he had Plax open in the flat and he overthrew him.

 

[timschochet]

I agree with this. And I would also like to add that the new Terminator television show is better than all of the movies.

 

[encaitar]

Eli didn't look very clutch when he had Plax open in the flat and he overthrew him.

What part of a receiver stopping his route do you not understand?

 

[TLEF316]

The results were great, and Eli made a few outstanding plays. However, he threw up four or five absolute prayers in this game. The Pats just didnt capitalize.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Peyton was horrible in crunch time last year against the Bears and Patriots. Good thing those teams never jumped off to big leads that we know Peyton couldn't come back from.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Yes, Eli Manning is much better than Peytong Manning. Also, Sophia Coppola's film career is clearly better than her father's.

 

[Sabertooth]

Eli didn't look very clutch when he had Plax open in the flat and he overthrew him.

What part of a receiver stopping his route do you not understand?

What part about playing catch in the back yard don't you get? Eli had a 9'2" target with nobody on him and he overthrew him. Not clutch. But he looked great for most of the game. Just saying, he had a great chance get away from him on that one play.

 

[encaitar]

Eli didn't look very clutch when he had Plax open in the flat and he overthrew him.

What part of a receiver stopping his route do you not understand?

What part about playing catch in the back yard don't you get? Eli had a 9'2" target with nobody on him and he overthrew him. Not clutch. But he looked great for most of the game. Just saying, he had a great chance get away from him on that one play.

Well, the play I saw had Plaxico slowing his route just as Eli was in the motion of throwing it. Anytime a reciever does this, it's gonna be overthrown. It's not like he could've zipped one in there with a defender between them.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Peyton was horrible in crunch time last year against the Bears and Patriots. Good thing those teams never jumped off to big leads that we know Peyton couldn't come back from.

Maybe if you read my 2 posts... you will see that I give Peyton a ton of credit for last yr; he played great in that 2nd half of the Pats game.

 

[top dog]

Peyton was horrible in crunch time last year against the Bears and Patriots. Good thing those teams never jumped off to big leads that we know Peyton couldn't come back from.

Maybe if you read my 2 posts... you will see that I give Peyton a ton of credit for last yr; he played great in that 2nd half of the Pats game.

I believe your sarcasm detector is broken.

 

[meanjoegreen]

Peyton will finish his career with many more Yards / TDs / QB Ratings... and whatever than Eli; but with 2:40 left in the SB and you need a TD... there is no question now that you much rather have Eli than Peyton behind center.

Speak for yourself. I'd rather have Peyton behind center.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Eli has certainly come a long way since he had his head damn near knocked off in his first pre-season game against the Eagles.

 

[Despyzer]

Are we talking about the same guy who fumbled twice, was intercepted once, had about three or four other balls that should have been intercepted, and was mysteriously named the MVP?

 

[timschochet]

All joking aside, what a relief for Peyton's career that he won the SB last year.

Just suppose for a moment that he hadn't; that New England had won the AFC Championship game last January, as they came so close to doing, and then Eli got his ring this year. Can you imagine the conversation at that point?

 

[KellysHeroes]

All joking aside, what a relief for Peyton's career that he won the SB last year.

Just suppose for a moment that he hadn't; that New England had won the AFC Championship game last January, as they came so close to doing, and then Eli got his ring this year. Can you imagine the conversation at that point?

If he never won that Ring, or any other ring, he would be Marino 2. In fact, Marino would be replaced by Peyton as the best player to never get a ring. But Peyton had a great season in 2006-2007; he earned his.I just feel that the road Eli had to take was 10x harder and I believe there is no way Peyton could of handled what Eli went though to get his.

 

[Koya]

Eli didn't look very clutch when he had Plax open in the flat and he overthrew him.

What part of a receiver stopping his route do you not understand?

What part about playing catch in the back yard don't you get? Eli had a 9'2" target with nobody on him and he overthrew him. Not clutch. But he looked great for most of the game. Just saying, he had a great chance get away from him on that one play.

And after that play, which would have gone a long way to clinch a Giants win assuming Plax gets 20+ yards AFTER the catch as well, NE comes down and in typical fashion yanks the heart out of their opponent with, finally, a Brady drive ending in a TD and a lead with under 3 min left.But Eli put aside one of his few bad throws during the day to put up one of the great drives in NFL history. One of Eli's huge strengths has been the end of the half or 4thQ comeback. He has done that quite a bit in his young career... building up the expecations of us Giants fans who needed Eli to at least get to a SB to justify the trade.But for him to have done this time and time again in the playoffs this year - wow. He answered Dallas after a demoralizing drive with so many 3rd down conversions. He kept putting the Giants in position to win again and again against GB and now this. Interesting to see where Eli now stacks up not against his brother, but against Roeths (rode a team to a SB far more than being the reason they won, and didn't he play rather poorly in the SB itself? Not to mention, did they have to beat a team the likes of the Pats at all, not to say in most part because of Roeths), Rivers, Romo.HAVE to put Eli ahead of Rivers and Romo right now (and this can certainly change. Rivers showed me a LOT by gutting it out this year in the playoffs, but I don't think he wins this game like Eli did. Romo has had great moments but no playoff wins yet). Roeths is a tougher question. Eli is far more the reason his team won the SB, but Roeths career has still progressed fairly well although Im not as high on him as many.

 

[Koya]

Are we talking about the same guy who fumbled twice, was intercepted once, had about three or four other balls that should have been intercepted, and was mysteriously named the MVP?

Is this just hate? Or ignorance?What about Brady's fumble? Guess that doesnt matter.His interception was actually a good throw and totally the fault of the receiver (but why let facts stand in the way of blindness?).There were a few throws that were questionable, but that happens to just about every QB in most every game... you need a little luck to go with your skill, and then you must capitalize on those chances. Like on the ball that A Samuel got his fingers on on that last drive - he couldnt quite get up to intercept it, but the guy you are looking to cut down (for no apparant reason but its making you look silly I have to say) then put on a display on the STC (Spin-Throw-Catch to Tyree) of which, legend is made.So, if you want to find fault in Eli's game, there is some to be found. But saying what you are saying, a day after Eli clearly outplays Brady (again, you ignore his fumble, and his throws - of which there were certainly a few) comes off as peculiar at best.If you really don't like Eli, this is simply not a day for you - he was clearly the MVP in that game and he led his team against the monster and did the slaying himself.

 

[Warpig]

Eli is the luckiest SOB alive! Did you not see those wounded ducks he was chucking up in the 4th quarter? I was amazed that the NE DB's weren't able to get to those. He got lucky on the TD pass to Burress. The defender must have fell like when Moss got his TD. The real MVP of that game was the Giants defense. Beautiful performance by a determined bunch!

 

[The Moz]

Yeah that 21 point comeback in tyhe championship game against NE never happened !

 

[GregR_2]

Eli is a pretty good NFL QB, but he has a ways to go to be a great one or to be anywhere near where Peyton or Brady are. He throws a lot of balls off his back foot, floating them up there. I was just watching more highlights and it stood out to me how many of his good plays he was striding into it, and how many of his bad plays he let the pass rush get right up in his face to where he couldn't step up, and then lofted the ball. Quite a few of those came close to being picked.

Again, he's a good NFL QB even with those issues. But he's not at Peyton's level and there's no way I'd take Eli over Peyton at crunch time.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Eli didn't look very clutch when he had Plax open in the flat and he overthrew him.

Way to pick out the one bad throw he made in the 4th quarter, as if the rest of his throws in the 4th quarter never happened. No way is Eli better than Peyton, obviously, but it is interesting that Eli played much better in his team's playoff Super Bowl run than Peyton played in his.

 

[Warpig]

Eli didn't look very clutch when he had Plax open in the flat and he overthrew him.

Way to pick out the one bad throw he made in the 4th quarter, as if the rest of his throws in the 4th quarter never happened. No way is Eli better than Peyton, obviously, but it is interesting that Eli played much better in his team's playoff Super Bowl run than Peyton played in his.

Someone needs to go back and watch the 4th quarter. There were about 3 bad passes in a row on that final drive alone. Dude was lofting some balloons up there.

 

[switz]

Peyton will finish his career with many more Yards / TDs / QB Ratings... and whatever than Eli; but with 2:40 left in the SB and you need a TD... there is no question now that you much rather have Eli than Peyton behind center. In 10 yrs... Manning has only made a few comebacks in the Post-Season in my memory... against the Pats (and I'm taking anything away from that performance; it was great) and maybe you want to count SB 41 where Devin Hester was the only offense the Bears had. But, every other game I can think of that the Colts win in the Post-Season, the Colts built a double digit lead early and just rode the wave home. The Knock on Peyton from his younger days is true; the guy crumbles under pressure... maybe not so much in the regular season, but it is a fact in the Post-Season.This Post-Season; Eli had to bring his team back at some point in all four games.... ON THE ROAD. Congrats to Eli... I'm sure this is the 12th thread about him in 2 days... But I'm so happy the critics have been silenced; I have never once said anything bad about him since entering the league... People that call up Sports Talk Radio Shows like Mike and The MD early this season and proclaimed that Eli will never lead them to the Championship in his career and the Giants need to move on from him should feel like azzez today (I must admit, I even questioned if the SB was in his cards).Just a Great job done by Eli / the whole Giants Team / the staff / everybody

One great drive from Eli, and you're ready to annoint him as better than his brother who has had numerous great drives?

 

[KellysHeroes]

Peyton will finish his career with many more Yards / TDs / QB Ratings... and whatever than Eli; but with 2:40 left in the SB and you need a TD... there is no question now that you much rather have Eli than Peyton behind center.

In 10 yrs... Manning has only made a few comebacks in the Post-Season in my memory... against the Pats (and I'm taking anything away from that performance; it was great) and maybe you want to count SB 41 where Devin Hester was the only offense the Bears had.

But, every other game I can think of that the Colts win in the Post-Season, the Colts built a double digit lead early and just rode the wave home. The Knock on Peyton from his younger days is true; the guy crumbles under pressure... maybe not so much in the regular season, but it is a fact in the Post-Season.

This Post-Season; Eli had to bring his team back at some point in all four games.... ON THE ROAD.

Congrats to Eli... I'm sure this is the 12th thread about him in 2 days... But I'm so happy the critics have been silenced; I have never once said anything bad about him since entering the league...

People that call up Sports Talk Radio Shows like Mike and The MD early this season and proclaimed that Eli will never lead them to the Championship in his career and the Giants need to move on from him should feel like azzez today (I must admit, I even questioned if the SB was in his cards).

Just a Great job done by Eli / the whole Giants Team / the staff / everybody

One great drive from Eli, and you're ready to annoint him as better than his brother who has had numerous great drives?

How many of those great drives have been in the Post-season .

 

[KellysHeroes]

Yeah that 21 point comeback in tyhe championship game against NE never happened !

was mentioned in my 1st 2 posts.....

 

[Clifton]

Not just in crunch time. The torch has been passed from one brother to the next. We are witnessing something special.

 

[Despyzer]

Are we talking about the same guy who fumbled twice, was intercepted once, had about three or four other balls that should have been intercepted, and was mysteriously named the MVP?

Is this just hate? Or ignorance?What about Brady's fumble? Guess that doesnt matter.His interception was actually a good throw and totally the fault of the receiver (but why let facts stand in the way of blindness?).There were a few throws that were questionable, but that happens to just about every QB in most every game... you need a little luck to go with your skill, and then you must capitalize on those chances. Like on the ball that A Samuel got his fingers on on that last drive - he couldnt quite get up to intercept it, but the guy you are looking to cut down (for no apparant reason but its making you look silly I have to say) then put on a display on the STC (Spin-Throw-Catch to Tyree) of which, legend is made.So, if you want to find fault in Eli's game, there is some to be found. But saying what you are saying, a day after Eli clearly outplays Brady (again, you ignore his fumble, and his throws - of which there were certainly a few) comes off as peculiar at best.If you really don't like Eli, this is simply not a day for you - he was clearly the MVP in that game and he led his team against the monster and did the slaying himself.

The only reasonable response here is

 

[Ghost Rider]

Eli didn't look very clutch when he had Plax open in the flat and he overthrew him.

Way to pick out the one bad throw he made in the 4th quarter, as if the rest of his throws in the 4th quarter never happened. No way is Eli better than Peyton, obviously, but it is interesting that Eli played much better in his team's playoff Super Bowl run than Peyton played in his.

Someone needs to go back and watch the 4th quarter. There were about 3 bad passes in a row on that final drive alone. Dude was lofting some balloons up there.

So, a QB has to be perfect to be clutch? So he threw a few bad passes. He was still clutch when it counted last night. How can you or anyone else say otherwise?

 

[Warpig]

Eli didn't look very clutch when he had Plax open in the flat and he overthrew him.

Way to pick out the one bad throw he made in the 4th quarter, as if the rest of his throws in the 4th quarter never happened. No way is Eli better than Peyton, obviously, but it is interesting that Eli played much better in his team's playoff Super Bowl run than Peyton played in his.

Someone needs to go back and watch the 4th quarter. There were about 3 bad passes in a row on that final drive alone. Dude was lofting some balloons up there.

So, a QB has to be perfect to be clutch? So he threw a few bad passes. He was still clutch when it counted last night. How can you or anyone else say otherwise?

It wasn't just me, but everyone around me that was saying the same thing. Eli's passes were lofting and was lucky that they weren't getting picked off. I wouldn't say he is clutch either. He's too inconsistent for my tastes. He's a good QB, but he isn't great nor will he ever be a great one. Remember...the Ravens won a Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer ( ). I'd be willing to discuss this topic again some time next year.

 

[Koya]

Eli didn't look very clutch when he had Plax open in the flat and he overthrew him.

Way to pick out the one bad throw he made in the 4th quarter, as if the rest of his throws in the 4th quarter never happened. No way is Eli better than Peyton, obviously, but it is interesting that Eli played much better in his team's playoff Super Bowl run than Peyton played in his.

Someone needs to go back and watch the 4th quarter. There were about 3 bad passes in a row on that final drive alone. Dude was lofting some balloons up there.

So, a QB has to be perfect to be clutch? So he threw a few bad passes. He was still clutch when it counted last night. How can you or anyone else say otherwise?

It wasn't just me, but everyone around me that was saying the same thing. Eli's passes were lofting and was lucky that they weren't getting picked off. I wouldn't say he is clutch either. He's too inconsistent for my tastes. He's a good QB, but he isn't great nor will he ever be a great one. Remember...the Ravens won a Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer ( ). I'd be willing to discuss this topic again some time next year.

Even when Eli was battling his inconsistencies, throughout his career he has ALWAYS been considerably better during the final moments of halves and games and has had his share early on of late 4th quarter comebacks. Until this past month he was inconsistent, but he had also been clutch.

 

[B-Deep]

Ridiculous thread.

 

[Koya]

Eli didn't look very clutch when he had Plax open in the flat and he overthrew him.

Way to pick out the one bad throw he made in the 4th quarter, as if the rest of his throws in the 4th quarter never happened. No way is Eli better than Peyton, obviously, but it is interesting that Eli played much better in his team's playoff Super Bowl run than Peyton played in his.

Someone needs to go back and watch the 4th quarter. There were about 3 bad passes in a row on that final drive alone. Dude was lofting some balloons up there.

So, a QB has to be perfect to be clutch? So he threw a few bad passes. He was still clutch when it counted last night. How can you or anyone else say otherwise?

It's hard to see how Eli can be called anything but clutch for the time being. In addition to his clutch play late in games before this last run, he has won a super bowl, been the best player on the team over the stretch and the Playoffs and Super Bowl MVP. The guy outplayed Garcia, Romo, Favre and then Brady in consecutive games.He took the Giants over the top not once, but twice in the Super Bowl in the 4th quarter and never let any "lost chances" get to him (i.e. the overthrow of Plax on the roll out).

Goodness, the spin, roll, and perfect throw to a single covered (at the time) Tyree - a throw that had a LOT of zip on it and covered a LOT of greens - that alone would be clutch... but his great throw to Boss, his threading a needle on NUMEROUS throws (not many wide open Giant receivers yesterday) and the wonderful lob at the end to Burress who would have been in great position for a TD even had the DB not fallen down on the play.

Anyone who says Eli is not clutch (1) does not know his history with the Giants over the past few years and (2) must not have watched this past month.

 

[H.K.]

One of Eli's huge strengths has been the end of the half or 4thQ comeback. He has done that quite a bit in his young career...

Most analysts agree with you. I think this is an interesting thread topic, too.Peyton seems to be at his best when things are done in a deliberate manner and he has time to make his pre-snap reads and adjustments, where as Eli seems to thrive when play is up tempo and he can be more improvisational.

 

[DoubleG]

Woah. Let's back this train up a bit.

Point 1) Many sport gurus say something to the effect of "your not as nearly bad as your worst game and not nearly as good as your best" - the same has also been true of entire seasons (i.e. there is a HUGE difference betweent saying "Brady had the best season of all time as a QB" and "Brady is the best QB of all time").

Point 2) (Which actually stems from the parenthetical portion point 1 above). In the thread about Brady being the best QB of all time there are 3-4 others mentioned with regularity - Favre, Marino, Montana and P. Manning. Sorry, but I am not willing to put Eli anywhere NEAR that conversation yet.

Point 3) Eli's 4 game post season resume is a bit small. Yes, Peyton has had bad games, but often times it's because he has had to go win games for his team (until recent times this meant simply outscoring opposing teams 48-42 and the like).

Don't get me wrong, Eli's performance last night was excellent. The one pick he did throw was a catchable ball that his receiver bobbled right into the defenders hands (ironically, similar to Peyton's two picks vs. the Chargers). However, I am not ready to annoint Eli as a more "clutch" player than his brother after a 4 game stretch, any more than I would have Big Ben a few years ago (note how Roth played in his most recent "big game" - hence my desire to withold judgement).

 

[Koya]

One of Eli's huge strengths has been the end of the half or 4thQ comeback. He has done that quite a bit in his young career...

Most analysts agree with you. I think this is an interesting thread topic, too.Peyton seems to be at his best when things are done in a deliberate manner and he has time to make his pre-snap reads and adjustments, where as Eli seems to thrive when play is up tempo and he can be more improvisational.

Very true. I think a big part of that has been the immense pressure Eli has felt in his career to date (and while he may not show it, he has to feel it). When suddenly it is not some mechanical read and snap but just going out and playing ball, he has flourished as if he doesnt have time to think about consequences.Now that he has had such great success, I wonder if he will be more relaxed going forward. He has been the past month during the playoffs, so why not during the regular season.

Something to consider: compared to their OVERALL body of work, Eli is proportionately far more clutch compared to Peyton in that Peyton has had great numbers and huge games with some big time chokes whereas Eli has had far less overall success but even before this run had some nice comeback wins to his name - and now a monumental Super Bowl run to his credit. Compared to how good Eli is, he is more clutch as compared to Peytons clutchness considering how good Peyton is.

 

[kentric]

As stated previously, Eli has shown a propensity to do well late in games, but in no way would I take Eli over Peyton at this point of his career.

In the SB, Eli did have a number of floaters that went for completions, however, he also had some excellent throws. While he made two ill-advised long passes to Burress in the game, they were fairly on target.

 

[H.K.]

One of Eli's huge strengths has been the end of the half or 4thQ comeback. He has done that quite a bit in his young career...

Most analysts agree with you. I think this is an interesting thread topic, too.Peyton seems to be at his best when things are done in a deliberate manner and he has time to make his pre-snap reads and adjustments, where as Eli seems to thrive when play is up tempo and he can be more improvisational.

Very true. I think a big part of that has been the immense pressure Eli has felt in his career to date (and while he may not show it, he has to feel it). When suddenly it is not some mechanical read and snap but just going out and playing ball, he has flourished as if he doesnt have time to think about consequences.Now that he has had such great success, I wonder if he will be more relaxed going forward. He has been the past month during the playoffs, so why not during the regular season.

Something to consider: compared to their OVERALL body of work, Eli is proportionately far more clutch compared to Peyton in that Peyton has had great numbers and huge games with some big time chokes whereas Eli has had far less overall success but even before this run had some nice comeback wins to his name - and now a monumental Super Bowl run to his credit. Compared to how good Eli is, he is more clutch as compared to Peytons clutchness considering how good Peyton is.

An argument can be made in Eli's favor. This is a situational discussion, not an overall "who is the better QB" evaluation. Peyton is great, but Eli has demonstrated a strength in this particular area...and not just in these playoffs. A lot of people that know way more than any of us (Simms, Cross, Sharpe, etc.) were wondering if the Giants would open up the SB in the no huddle because they felt it may be the best way for Eli to get into a groove...not as much time to get caught up in the hoopla of the game, just send him out and let him make plays.Is Peyton the better QB? So far he has been without question. Is Eli better in the final minutes? A case could be made for it.

 

[Koya]

One of Eli's huge strengths has been the end of the half or 4thQ comeback. He has done that quite a bit in his young career...

Most analysts agree with you. I think this is an interesting thread topic, too.Peyton seems to be at his best when things are done in a deliberate manner and he has time to make his pre-snap reads and adjustments, where as Eli seems to thrive when play is up tempo and he can be more improvisational.

Very true. I think a big part of that has been the immense pressure Eli has felt in his career to date (and while he may not show it, he has to feel it). When suddenly it is not some mechanical read and snap but just going out and playing ball, he has flourished as if he doesnt have time to think about consequences.Now that he has had such great success, I wonder if he will be more relaxed going forward. He has been the past month during the playoffs, so why not during the regular season.

Something to consider: compared to their OVERALL body of work, Eli is proportionately far more clutch compared to Peyton in that Peyton has had great numbers and huge games with some big time chokes whereas Eli has had far less overall success but even before this run had some nice comeback wins to his name - and now a monumental Super Bowl run to his credit. Compared to how good Eli is, he is more clutch as compared to Peytons clutchness considering how good Peyton is.

An argument can be made in Eli's favor. This is a situational discussion, not an overall "who is the better QB" evaluation. Peyton is great, but Eli has demonstrated a strength in this particular area...and not just in these playoffs. A lot of people that know way more than any of us (Simms, Cross, Sharpe, etc.) were wondering if the Giants would open up the SB in the no huddle because they felt it may be the best way for Eli to get into a groove...not as much time to get caught up in the hoopla of the game, just send him out and let him make plays.Is Peyton the better QB? So far he has been without question. Is Eli better in the final minutes? A case could be made for it.

Let me be clear - Peyton at this point is EASILY the better QB. And the one I would take on my team (if my team were not the Giants, which it is). But with Peyton's talent, he really should have another SB win, possibly two. But he has come up small at big times. Not all his fault, but a good share imo.

Eli, with less talent and far less production might actually be outplaying his brother during crunchtime. Even if he is close then he would improve during clutchtime more than his brother. It's arguable that in crunch time, Eli is flat out better (it doesnt look pretty, he scares the bejeebuz out of you a couple times, but then you look and they get the go ahead TD. Not the first time this has happened because of eli) which would mean he is considerably "more clutch".

Peyton gives you a better chance not to need crunch time (5 TDs in 2.5 quarters and wtf happened?). Eli may actually give you a better chance when you need a minor miracle.

 

[JohnnyU]

You're not going to sucker me into responding with anything meaningful in this thread, because it's absurd. :smellsbaitandswimsaway:

 

[BaBastage]

You're not going to sucker me into responding with anything meaningful in this thread, because it's absurd. :smellsbaitandswimsaway:

Unreal the lack of filter between some people's brain and their keyboard. Let's see Eli in the playoff a few more times before we even *entertain* the notion that he's better than Peyton or Brady...I'm not taking anything away from him. Gutsy game, and he came out on top. But he'll need to do it again, and again, and again.

 

[KellysHeroes]

You're not going to sucker me into responding with anything meaningful in this thread, because it's absurd. :smellsbaitandswimsaway:

almost all of you have missed my point... I admitted that Peyton had a great Post-Season last yr; he earned his Super Bowl.I have also admitted that when Peyton wraps it up... his #s will be in the top 3 if not the #1 QB of all time.What I'm pointing out is that when the game is in the final minutes and you need more than 3 pts... Peyton seems to crumble while Eli strives. Much of Peyton #s come when the Colts are in their comfort zone and Peyton is still dinging and dunging.Look at the Weapons that Peyton has played with.... some of the most talented WRs. OL, and RB of our generation. And then factor in that he plays in a dome as well. Peyton is almost the result of a perfect storm... Great QB / Great Offensive players all around / Great Staff / DomeBut when the team needs him the most... he seems to fall apart most of the time. Take away last yr and I do not believe he ever had a comeback victory in the post-season.

 

[KellysHeroes]

i have been waiting for this thread

are u still waiting

 

[KellysHeroes]

You're not going to sucker me into responding with anything meaningful in this thread, because it's absurd. :smellsbaitandswimsaway:

Unreal the lack of filter between some people's brain and their keyboard. Let's see Eli in the playoff a few more times before we even *entertain* the notion that he's better than Peyton or Brady...I'm not taking anything away from him. Gutsy game, and he came out on top. But he'll need to do it again, and again, and again.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Ridiculous thread.

really